Hi Mike Kilwinning. Can be found in Scotlandsplaces https://scotlandsplaces.gov.uk/digital-volumes/ordnance-survey-name-books/ayrshire-os-name-books-1855-1857/ayrshire-volume-41/54 Sent from my iPad > On Oct 17, 2017, at 7:58 PM, LINDA NORDBY <searchinguk@shaw.ca> wrote: > > > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Oct 17, 2017, at 6:13 PM, Mike Boyd <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> wrote: >> >> In a 1571 document there is reference to a James Boyd of Hullirhill. >> >> While in 1584 fort the Burgesses & Guild Brethren of Glasgow, 1573 – 1750, it called this location Hullerhill. >> >> So is anyone on this list familiar where this location might be in Ayrshire or Scotland? >> >> Thank you >> >> Mike Boyd >> Brisbane, Aust. >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sent from my iPad > On Oct 17, 2017, at 6:13 PM, Mike Boyd <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> wrote: > > In a 1571 document there is reference to a James Boyd of Hullirhill. > > While in 1584 fort the Burgesses & Guild Brethren of Glasgow, 1573 – 1750, it called this location Hullerhill. > > So is anyone on this list familiar where this location might be in Ayrshire or Scotland? > > Thank you > > Mike Boyd > Brisbane, Aust. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The Old Parish Records of Tarbolton Deaths 1844 619/30 page 554 lists the following: 34 GRACE McNIEL was interred 12th November 1844 35 JOHN GRAY BARR was interred 13th November 1844 38 MARGARET CUNNINGHAM was interred 12th December 1844 On the right hand upper corner is written ‘278’ which would seem to be a page number? Grace McNiel is on my family line McNiel/McNeil/McNeill Regards Maggie Grant

The Old Parish Register for Tarbolton 619/30 page 558 dated 23/10/1845 listed the following: 21 ELIZABETH McMILLAN Fail was interred 3 Sept 1845 22 ROBERT SCOTT was interred 9th Sept 1845 23 SAMUEL FULTON (could be Snr) was interred 9th Sept 1845 26 ARCHIBALD McNIEL was interred 23rd October 1845. Archibald McNiel is my brick wall – born about 1809, parents and county unknown. Gratefully, through Jenny Myers, I have a wonderful photo of his son William McNeil with wife Jane Hillhouse and their children. Kind regards Maggie Grant

Hello Mike. I would appreciate a response too. Do you have that book? My interest is Thomas Reid, Dyster of Alloway, who died in 1733. Murray Reid NZ -----Original Message----- From: AYRSHIRE [mailto:ayrshire-bounces+mhhr=xtra.co.nz@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mike Boyd Sent: Sunday, 15 October 2017 10:46 AM To: AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com; sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com Subject: [AYR] The Burgesses & Guild Brethren of Glasgow, 1573-1750, James R. Anderson, 1925, Scottish Record Society In about 2007 I found this book The Burgesses & Guild Brethren of Glasgow, 1573-1750, James R. Anderson, 1925, Scottish Record Society, but on my following visits to Glasgow and Edinburgh, I have not followed up to see if the Scottish Record Society has published a book on the list of Burgesses prior to 1573 or after 1750. So does anyone know if such books might have been published? I got a list of some 86 Boyd form this book. There locations outside of Glasgow – such as Dalrey, Galloway; Dublin; Ballycastle, I assume County Antrim and Edinburgh, as some of the out of Glasgow locations I can quickly see. So this source might be useful in helping to trace other families through their membership of being a Burgess in Glasgow. Mike Boyd Brisbane, Aust ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

No Murray I found it at the Mitchell Library in Glasgow. I assume that the Scottish Record society series is available in other Libraries - such as National Library of Scotland on King George IV Bridge or the Edinburgh City Library also on King George IV Bridge But it was not until this morning when I was doing another job, that I realised that I have not followed up looking if there were any other records on the Glasgow Burgesses. I will have to now write some articles for our quarterly magazine to advertise these 86 Boyds. So if you contact the Mitchell Library, Glasgow, they might do a look up for you. Although now thinking, someone on the Boyd net list about two months ago did post the Glagow Boyd Burgesses - so it might be available online. Mike Boyd -----Original Message----- From: Murray Reid Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2017 8:12 AM To: 'Mike Boyd' ; AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com ; sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [AYR] The Burgesses & Guild Brethren of Glasgow, 1573-1750, James R. Anderson, 1925, Scottish Record Society Hello Mike. I would appreciate a response too. Do you have that book? My interest is Thomas Reid, Dyster of Alloway, who died in 1733. Murray Reid NZ -----Original Message----- From: AYRSHIRE [mailto:ayrshire-bounces+mhhr=xtra.co.nz@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mike Boyd Sent: Sunday, 15 October 2017 10:46 AM To: AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com; sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com Subject: [AYR] The Burgesses & Guild Brethren of Glasgow, 1573-1750, James R. Anderson, 1925, Scottish Record Society In about 2007 I found this book The Burgesses & Guild Brethren of Glasgow, 1573-1750, James R. Anderson, 1925, Scottish Record Society, but on my following visits to Glasgow and Edinburgh, I have not followed up to see if the Scottish Record Society has published a book on the list of Burgesses prior to 1573 or after 1750. So does anyone know if such books might have been published? I got a list of some 86 Boyd form this book. There locations outside of Glasgow – such as Dalrey, Galloway; Dublin; Ballycastle, I assume County Antrim and Edinburgh, as some of the out of Glasgow locations I can quickly see. So this source might be useful in helping to trace other families through their membership of being a Burgess in Glasgow. Mike Boyd Brisbane, Aust ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In about 2007 I found this book The Burgesses & Guild Brethren of Glasgow, 1573-1750, James R. Anderson, 1925, Scottish Record Society, but on my following visits to Glasgow and Edinburgh, I have not followed up to see if the Scottish Record Society has published a book on the list of Burgesses prior to 1573 or after 1750. So does anyone know if such books might have been published? I got a list of some 86 Boyd form this book. There locations outside of Glasgow – such as Dalrey, Galloway; Dublin; Ballycastle, I assume County Antrim and Edinburgh, as some of the out of Glasgow locations I can quickly see. So this source might be useful in helping to trace other families through their membership of being a Burgess in Glasgow. Mike Boyd Brisbane, Aust

unsubscribe > On October 15, 2017 at 3:00 AM ayrshire-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > Send AYRSHIRE mailing list submissions to > ayrshire@rootsweb.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists9.rootsweb.ancestry.com/mailman/listinfo/ayrshire > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > ayrshire-request@rootsweb.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > ayrshire-owner@rootsweb.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of AYRSHIRE digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. The Burgesses & Guild Brethren of Glasgow, 1573-1750, James > R. Anderson, 1925, Scottish Record Society (Mike Boyd) > 2. Re: The Burgesses & Guild Brethren of Glasgow, 1573-1750, > James R. Anderson, 1925, Scottish Record Society (Murray Reid) > 3. Re: The Burgesses & Guild Brethren of Glasgow, 1573-1750, > James R. Anderson, 1925, Scottish Record Society (Mike Boyd) > 4. Re: The Burgesses & Guild Brethren of Glasgow, 1573-1750, > James R. Anderson, 1925, Scottish Record Society (Deborah Rea) > 5. Re: The Burgesses & Guild Brethren of Glasgow, 1573-1750, > James R. Anderson, 1925, Scottish Record Society (Jo Ann Croft) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2017 07:45:48 +1000 > From: Mike Boyd <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> > To: <AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com>, <sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [AYR] The Burgesses & Guild Brethren of Glasgow, 1573-1750, > James R. Anderson, 1925, Scottish Record Society > Message-ID: <06579BAF87D3479CB19E4E19058028F5@MichaelPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > In about 2007 I found this book The Burgesses & Guild Brethren of Glasgow, 1573-1750, James R. Anderson, 1925, Scottish Record Society, but on my following visits to Glasgow and Edinburgh, I have not followed up to see if the Scottish Record Society has published a book on the list of Burgesses prior to 1573 or after 1750. > > So does anyone know if such books might have been published? > > I got a list of some 86 Boyd form this book. There locations outside of Glasgow ? such as Dalrey, Galloway; Dublin; Ballycastle, I assume County Antrim and Edinburgh, as some of the out of Glasgow locations I can quickly see. So this source might be useful in helping to trace other families through their membership of being a Burgess in Glasgow. > > Mike Boyd > Brisbane, Aust > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2017 11:12:25 +1300 > From: "Murray Reid" <mhhr@xtra.co.nz> > To: "'Mike Boyd'" <mikejboyd@bigpond.com>, <AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com>, > <sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [AYR] The Burgesses & Guild Brethren of Glasgow, > 1573-1750, James R. Anderson, 1925, Scottish Record Society > Message-ID: <000501d34539$86174240$9245c6c0$@xtra.co.nz> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hello Mike. > I would appreciate a response too. > Do you have that book? > My interest is Thomas Reid, Dyster of Alloway, who died in 1733. > > Murray Reid > NZ > > -----Original Message----- > From: AYRSHIRE [mailto:ayrshire-bounces+mhhr=xtra.co.nz@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mike Boyd > Sent: Sunday, 15 October 2017 10:46 AM > To: AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com; sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AYR] The Burgesses & Guild Brethren of Glasgow, 1573-1750, James R. Anderson, 1925, Scottish Record Society > > In about 2007 I found this book The Burgesses & Guild Brethren of Glasgow, 1573-1750, James R. Anderson, 1925, Scottish Record Society, but on my following visits to Glasgow and Edinburgh, I have not followed up to see if the Scottish Record Society has published a book on the list of Burgesses prior to 1573 or after 1750. > > So does anyone know if such books might have been published? > > I got a list of some 86 Boyd form this book. There locations outside of Glasgow ? such as Dalrey, Galloway; Dublin; Ballycastle, I assume County Antrim and Edinburgh, as some of the out of Glasgow locations I can quickly see. So this source might be useful in helping to trace other families through their membership of being a Burgess in Glasgow. > > Mike Boyd > Brisbane, Aust > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2017 08:32:51 +1000 > From: Mike Boyd <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> > To: Murray Reid <mhhr@xtra.co.nz>, <AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com>, > <sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [AYR] The Burgesses & Guild Brethren of Glasgow, > 1573-1750, James R. Anderson, 1925, Scottish Record Society > Message-ID: <C961650AEC8F4FCBA682D245AF468CC1@MichaelPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; > reply-type=original > > No Murray > I found it at the Mitchell Library in Glasgow. > > I assume that the Scottish Record society series is available in other > Libraries - such as National Library of Scotland on King George IV Bridge or > the Edinburgh City Library also on King George IV Bridge > > But it was not until this morning when I was doing another job, that I > realised that I have not followed up looking if there were any other records > on the Glasgow Burgesses. > > I will have to now write some articles for our quarterly magazine to > advertise these 86 Boyds. > > So if you contact the Mitchell Library, Glasgow, they might do a look up for > you. Although now thinking, someone on the Boyd net list about two months > ago did post the Glagow Boyd Burgesses - so it might be available online. > > > Mike Boyd > > -----Original Message----- > From: Murray Reid > Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2017 8:12 AM > To: 'Mike Boyd' ; AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com ; sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: [AYR] The Burgesses & Guild Brethren of Glasgow, 1573-1750, > James R. Anderson, 1925, Scottish Record Society > > Hello Mike. > I would appreciate a response too. > Do you have that book? > My interest is Thomas Reid, Dyster of Alloway, who died in 1733. > > Murray Reid > NZ > > -----Original Message----- > From: AYRSHIRE [mailto:ayrshire-bounces+mhhr=xtra.co.nz@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Mike Boyd > Sent: Sunday, 15 October 2017 10:46 AM > To: AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com; sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AYR] The Burgesses & Guild Brethren of Glasgow, 1573-1750, James > R. Anderson, 1925, Scottish Record Society > > In about 2007 I found this book The Burgesses & Guild Brethren of Glasgow, > 1573-1750, James R. Anderson, 1925, Scottish Record Society, but on my > following visits to Glasgow and Edinburgh, I have not followed up to see if > the Scottish Record Society has published a book on the list of Burgesses > prior to 1573 or after 1750. > > So does anyone know if such books might have been published? > > I got a list of some 86 Boyd form this book. There locations outside of > Glasgow ? such as Dalrey, Galloway; Dublin; Ballycastle, I assume County > Antrim and Edinburgh, as some of the out of Glasgow locations I can quickly > see. So this source might be useful in helping to trace other families > through their membership of being a Burgess in Glasgow. > > Mike Boyd > Brisbane, Aust > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2017 23:34:39 +0100 > From: Deborah Rea <deborah.rea94@gmail.com> > To: Murray Reid <mhhr@xtra.co.nz> > Cc: Mike Boyd <mikejboyd@bigpond.com>, "AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com" > <AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com>, sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [AYR] The Burgesses & Guild Brethren of Glasgow, > 1573-1750, James R. Anderson, 1925, Scottish Record Society > Message-ID: > <CAJneOLyq58=6GukCzz8AG495TXpxwMQi++YnNJYrWTt=GDD+VQ@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Hi Murray > > You can get it online - > https://archive.org/details/scottishrecordso43scotuoft > > Regards, > Debbie > > On 14 October 2017 at 23:12, Murray Reid <mhhr@xtra.co.nz> wrote: > > > Hello Mike. > > I would appreciate a response too. > > Do you have that book? > > My interest is Thomas Reid, Dyster of Alloway, who died in 1733. > > > > Murray Reid > > NZ > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: AYRSHIRE [mailto:ayrshire-bounces+mhhr=xtra.co.nz@rootsweb.com] On > > Behalf Of Mike Boyd > > Sent: Sunday, 15 October 2017 10:46 AM > > To: AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com; sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [AYR] The Burgesses & Guild Brethren of Glasgow, 1573-1750, James > > R. Anderson, 1925, Scottish Record Society > > > > In about 2007 I found this book The Burgesses & Guild Brethren of Glasgow, > > 1573-1750, James R. Anderson, 1925, Scottish Record Society, but on my > > following visits to Glasgow and Edinburgh, I have not followed up to see if > > the Scottish Record Society has published a book on the list of Burgesses > > prior to 1573 or after 1750. > > > > So does anyone know if such books might have been published? > > > > I got a list of some 86 Boyd form this book. There locations outside of > > Glasgow ? such as Dalrey, Galloway; Dublin; Ballycastle, I assume County > > Antrim and Edinburgh, as some of the out of Glasgow locations I can quickly > > see. So this source might be useful in helping to trace other families > > through their membership of being a Burgess in Glasgow. > > > > Mike Boyd > > Brisbane, Aust > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > Debbie Rea > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2017 20:30:58 -0400 > From: Jo Ann Croft <jecroft290@gmail.com> > Cc: "AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com" <AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com>, > sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [AYR] The Burgesses & Guild Brethren of Glasgow, > 1573-1750, James R. Anderson, 1925, Scottish Record Society > Message-ID: > <CAEk7p3S7reyD4gBsE3uxyja19TMPd7aPaKaV_o_6ptUkdkjpNA@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Here is a link (hopefully available to non-USA internet) that shows all > Scottish Record Society publications on archive.org > > https://archive.org/search.php?query=creator%3A%22Scottish+Record+Society%2C+Edinburgh%22 > > > > > > > > > > In about 2007 I found this book The Burgesses & Guild Brethren of > > Glasgow, > > > 1573-1750, James R. Anderson, 1925, Scottish Record Society, but on my > > > following visits to Glasgow and Edinburgh, I have not followed up to see > > if > > > the Scottish Record Society has published a book on the list of Burgesses > > > prior to 1573 or after 1750. > > > > > > So does anyone know if such books might have been published? > > > > > > I got a list of some 86 Boyd form this book. There locations outside of > > > Glasgow ? such as Dalrey, Galloway; Dublin; Ballycastle, I assume County > > > Antrim and Edinburgh, as some of the out of Glasgow locations I can > > quickly > > > see. So this source might be useful in helping to trace other families > > > through their membership of being a Burgess in Glasgow. > > > > > > Mike Boyd > > > Brisbane, Aust > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > To contact the AYRSHIRE list administrator, send an email to > AYRSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the AYRSHIRE mailing list, send an email to AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > ------------------------------ > > End of AYRSHIRE Digest, Vol 12, Issue 84 > ****************************************

Hi Murray You can get it online - https://archive.org/details/scottishrecordso43scotuoft Regards, Debbie On 14 October 2017 at 23:12, Murray Reid <mhhr@xtra.co.nz> wrote: > Hello Mike. > I would appreciate a response too. > Do you have that book? > My interest is Thomas Reid, Dyster of Alloway, who died in 1733. > > Murray Reid > NZ > > -----Original Message----- > From: AYRSHIRE [mailto:ayrshire-bounces+mhhr=xtra.co.nz@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Mike Boyd > Sent: Sunday, 15 October 2017 10:46 AM > To: AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com; sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AYR] The Burgesses & Guild Brethren of Glasgow, 1573-1750, James > R. Anderson, 1925, Scottish Record Society > > In about 2007 I found this book The Burgesses & Guild Brethren of Glasgow, > 1573-1750, James R. Anderson, 1925, Scottish Record Society, but on my > following visits to Glasgow and Edinburgh, I have not followed up to see if > the Scottish Record Society has published a book on the list of Burgesses > prior to 1573 or after 1750. > > So does anyone know if such books might have been published? > > I got a list of some 86 Boyd form this book. There locations outside of > Glasgow – such as Dalrey, Galloway; Dublin; Ballycastle, I assume County > Antrim and Edinburgh, as some of the out of Glasgow locations I can quickly > see. So this source might be useful in helping to trace other families > through their membership of being a Burgess in Glasgow. > > Mike Boyd > Brisbane, Aust > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Debbie Rea

Here is a link (hopefully available to non-USA internet) that shows all Scottish Record Society publications on archive.org https://archive.org/search.php?query=creator%3A%22Scottish+Record+Society%2C+Edinburgh%22 > > > > In about 2007 I found this book The Burgesses & Guild Brethren of > Glasgow, > > 1573-1750, James R. Anderson, 1925, Scottish Record Society, but on my > > following visits to Glasgow and Edinburgh, I have not followed up to see > if > > the Scottish Record Society has published a book on the list of Burgesses > > prior to 1573 or after 1750. > > > > So does anyone know if such books might have been published? > > > > I got a list of some 86 Boyd form this book. There locations outside of > > Glasgow – such as Dalrey, Galloway; Dublin; Ballycastle, I assume County > > Antrim and Edinburgh, as some of the out of Glasgow locations I can > quickly > > see. So this source might be useful in helping to trace other families > > through their membership of being a Burgess in Glasgow. > > > > Mike Boyd > > Brisbane, Aust >

Hi Maggie, I don't think there is any problem if you post the Parish, year and the surnames. If people are in search of that particular surname they can contact you direct. Doing it like that you are not selling the information nor are you posting the full information publicly. Regards, Your so many times cousin probably so many times removed too :-) Jenny -----Original Message----- From: Maggie Grant Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2017 8:52 AM To: ayrshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [AYR] The Administrator please Good morning, I have recently downloaded a few births, deaths and marriages from Scotlands People. The OPRs come as a page which include mine and perhaps five or six others – do I breach their copyright if I post the other names on the page to the List? Kind regards Maggie Grant ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Data cannot be copyrighted. It's the images that are copyrighted. You can legally post all the info from the page. I have done it in the past. I put all the surnames in the subject line and then transcribe the data in the body. Jo-Ann Croft On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 5:39 AM, Jennifer Myers <jenm@exemail.com.au> wrote: > Hi Maggie, > > I don't think there is any problem if you post the Parish, year and the > surnames. > > If people are in search of that particular surname they can contact you > direct. Doing it like that you are not selling the information nor are you > posting the full information publicly. > > Regards, > Your so many times cousin probably so many times removed too :-) > Jenny > > > > -----Original Message----- From: Maggie Grant > Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2017 8:52 AM > To: ayrshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AYR] The Administrator please > > Good morning, > I have recently downloaded a few births, deaths and marriages from > Scotlands People. The OPRs come as a page which include mine and perhaps > five or six others – do I breach their copyright if I post the other names > on the page to the List? > Kind regards > Maggie Grant > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Good morning, I have recently downloaded a few births, deaths and marriages from Scotlands People. The OPRs come as a page which include mine and perhaps five or six others – do I breach their copyright if I post the other names on the page to the List? Kind regards Maggie Grant

My ancestry is confirmed back to William and Mary who had children between 1775 and 1790, all born in Lochwinnoch. After extensive research on a number of genealogy site, who William and Mary are remains a mystery. I did find a Mary McDowall (1748) connected to Ayr which is the right time frame. I am curious if "my" William and Mary may have both come from Ayrshire. Thanks for any suggestions/help in the foregoing regard! Duncan Sutherland Williamsburg, VA

I have two baptism records for a James Kirkland born to James Kirkland and Margaret Hutchison at Sorn. The first James was baptised on 28 Dec 1780 and the following month a James was baptised 14th Jan 1781. Twins or same child baptised twice? Thank you, Ann

Hi Ann, I wonder if the 28 DEC 1780 was his actual birth date. Have you tried downloading the image from Scotlandspeople? I suspect that it will mention the dates of both birth and baptism in the register entry. It will give the names of his parents, and possibly also the residence. It will likely also specify if he was a lawful or natural child. Regards, Bruce On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 11:47 AM, <magellan@ihug.co.nz> wrote: > I have two baptism records for a James Kirkland born to James Kirkland and > Margaret Hutchison at Sorn. > The first James was baptised on 28 Dec 1780 and the following month a > James was baptised 14th Jan 1781. > > Twins or same child baptised twice? > Thank you, > Ann > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Kathy: Same Dr. story in Kilmarnock area early 1900's and again, youngest son got the name James Anderson. However he knew who he was named for. ecunningham@att.net From: Kathryn Stevenson <stevie609@gmail.com> To: ayrshire@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 8:24 AM Subject: Re: [AYR] AYRSHIRE Digest, Vol 12, Issue 78 Then there is my father, the youngest of 5 children. He ended up being called Thomas Alexander Stewart as his forenames. For the longest time no one knew where the Stewart name came from, as it had never been used in the family, in Canada and Scotland. My now deceased Aunt thought it was a Dr. Stewart that delivered all the children in the family. Dr.Stewart practiced in Toronto apparently, and my grandparents lived just east of Hamilton, Ontario. They went to Toronto to have the children as one of my Dad's Aunties was a midwife. Go figure!

Hi Folks, William Dick and Deborah Wells are the parents of my GGrandmother Deborah Kerr nee Dick born 1834 New Cumnock Parish. My ggrandmoither married George Kerr in 1859 at the "House Of Water"( her father William already deceased) and by 1862 they were on their way to Australia and by 1870 when my grandfather also George was born they had settled in New Zealand. Apart from 2 possible birth records that I can't verify I have been unable to find birth ,marriage or death records for William Dick and Deborah Wells, having searched ScotlandsPeople, FamilySearch, FindmyPast and the Library edition of Ancestry. On the website AyrshireRoots I was very fortunate to find 6 of their children births between Muirkirk and New Cumnock and with mother Deborahs name spelt either Walls or Wells. I have found the family in the 1841 census in Muirkirk where William is a Labourer, in 1851 he has a farm of 35 acres (perhaps House of Water since that is where his daughter Deborah was married in 1859) in the New Cumnock area and in 1861 census Deborah is a Widow living at Blackfarden (a small farm perhaps, I've googled it without success) working as a Bower ( a maid). There was a 13-15 year age gap between William and Deborah and I have found 2 births that might be theirs . William Dick born 1797, Sorn, Ayrshire, to James Dick and Margaret Lennox and a Deborah Wells born March 1810 New Cumnock to James Wells and Deborah Kerr. Unfortunately neither of these mothers have the maiden names that 2 of this couples daughters were given, still I am wondering if anyone out there might be connected and know if these births are the correct ones. Another angle I have taken is to search for info on my GGrandmother Deborahs siblings. Deborah was the eldest born in 1834, then in June 1837 her sister Elizabeth Howatson was born and the next sister Margaret Begg was born in Dec 1839. In the 1851 census Margaret Begg Dick is staying with a Margaret Begg ,(Innkeeper in Muirkirk, widow), and recorded as her granddaughter. I have found a birth in 1774 which might be this Innkeeper Margaret Begg but not a marriage or death record for her so have been unable to go further with this. For Elizabeth Howatson Dick, thinking that Howatson might be the surname of either William Dick or Deborah Wells mother or grandmother I have been unable to find any Dick/Howatson marriages or Wells/Howatrson marriages to support this theory. I have found Elizabeths marriage to William Millar in New Cumnock in 1867, their family in the 1881 census , their daughter Elizabeth marriage to James Millar in 1897 and this family in the 1901 census had a 2 year old daughter named Elizabeth Howatson Dick Millar!!! I would think that the Howatson surname must be a family link if they are continuing to use it. Does anybody have suggestions for how I may go ahead with my search, the hopeful goals being to find living 3rd or 4th cousins and also to be able to continue going backwards and discovering new generations of ancestors. :) Many thanks Chris in NZ

Hi Chris, Have you thought about doing your DNA, I have discovered many 3rd and 4th cousins that way. Also, Howatson may have been a family friend's surname, so there may be no biological connection. One of my friends searched on the Grey surname for a number of years, and was frustrated when she got back to Scotland. Apparently, a daughter of one of her lines must of found herself pregnant, and left Scotland. The Grey surname has gone through many descendants in Canada and the US, but my friend came to the conclusion that her family member must of changed her surname when she reached Canada, as she could't trace any Greys in her family in Scotland. About 4 generations later, some of the family names started to creep back in, and she was able to figure the family out, she had been a Robertson. Then there is my father, the youngest of 5 children. He ended up being called Thomas Alexander Stewart as his forenames. For the longest time no one knew where the Stewart name came from, as it had never been used in the family, in Canada and Scotland. My now deceased Aunt thought it was a Dr. Stewart that delivered all the children in the family. Dr.Stewart practiced in Toronto apparently, and my grandparents lived just east of Hamilton, Ontario. They went to Toronto to have the children as one of my Dad's Aunties was a midwife. Go figure! Best Regards, Kathy Stevenson Ontario, Canada On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 3:00 AM, <ayrshire-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Send AYRSHIRE mailing list submissions to > ayrshire@rootsweb.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists9.rootsweb.ancestry.com/mailman/listinfo/ayrshire > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > ayrshire-request@rootsweb.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > ayrshire-owner@rootsweb.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of AYRSHIRE digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. William Dick and Deborah Wells/Walls also Begg and Howatson > New Cumnock/Muirkirk (fabiochris) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2017 15:23:13 +1200 > From: "fabiochris" <fabiochris@xtra.co.nz> > To: "AYRSHIRE" <ayrshire@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [AYR] William Dick and Deborah Wells/Walls also Begg and > Howatson New Cumnock/Muirkirk > Message-ID: <000101d32c3f$a32ea020$e98be060$@xtra.co.nz> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi Folks, William Dick and Deborah Wells are the parents of my GGrandmother > Deborah Kerr nee Dick born 1834 New Cumnock Parish. My ggrandmoither > married George Kerr in 1859 at the "House Of Water"( her father William > already deceased) and by 1862 they were on their way to Australia and by > 1870 when my grandfather also George was born they had settled in New > Zealand. > > > > Apart from 2 possible birth records that I can't verify I have been unable > to find birth ,marriage or death records for William Dick and Deborah > Wells, having searched ScotlandsPeople, FamilySearch, FindmyPast and the > Library edition of Ancestry. On the website AyrshireRoots I was very > fortunate to find 6 of their children births between Muirkirk and New > Cumnock and with mother Deborahs name spelt either Walls or Wells. > > > > I have found the family in the 1841 census in Muirkirk where William is a > Labourer, in 1851 he has a farm of 35 acres (perhaps House of Water since > that is where his daughter Deborah was married in 1859) in the New Cumnock > area and in 1861 census Deborah is a Widow living at Blackfarden (a small > farm perhaps, I've googled it without success) working as a Bower ( a > maid). > There was a 13-15 year age gap between William and Deborah and I have found > 2 births that might be theirs . William Dick born 1797, Sorn, Ayrshire, to > James Dick and Margaret Lennox and a Deborah Wells born March 1810 New > Cumnock to James Wells and Deborah Kerr. Unfortunately neither of these > mothers have the maiden names that 2 of this couples daughters were given, > still I am wondering if anyone out there might be connected and know if > these births are the correct ones. > > > > Another angle I have taken is to search for info on my GGrandmother > Deborahs > siblings. Deborah was the eldest born in 1834, then in June 1837 her > sister > Elizabeth Howatson was born and the next sister Margaret Begg was born in > Dec 1839. In the 1851 census Margaret Begg Dick is staying with a Margaret > Begg ,(Innkeeper in Muirkirk, widow), and recorded as her granddaughter. I > have found a birth in 1774 which might be this Innkeeper Margaret Begg but > not a marriage or death record for her so have been unable to go further > with this. > > > > For Elizabeth Howatson Dick, thinking that Howatson might be the surname of > either William Dick or Deborah Wells mother or grandmother I have been > unable to find any Dick/Howatson marriages or Wells/Howatrson marriages to > support this theory. I have found Elizabeths marriage to William Millar > in New Cumnock in 1867, their family in the 1881 census , their daughter > Elizabeth marriage to James Millar in 1897 and this family in the 1901 > census had a 2 year old daughter named Elizabeth Howatson Dick Millar!!! I > would think that the Howatson surname must be a family link if they are > continuing to use it. > > > > Does anybody have suggestions for how I may go ahead with my search, the > hopeful goals being to find living 3rd or 4th cousins and also to be able > to continue going backwards and discovering new generations of ancestors. > :) > > > > Many thanks > > Chris in NZ > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > To contact the AYRSHIRE list administrator, send an email to > AYRSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the AYRSHIRE mailing list, send an email to > AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > ------------------------------ > > End of AYRSHIRE Digest, Vol 12, Issue 78 > **************************************** >

Hi Murray, Am just down at Carnegie Library which is pretty close to Alloway. The librarian knows somewhat where the mill is and is giving me directions - about 5 miles from here! Hopefully, I can find it! Regards, Debbie On 1 July 2017 at 02:38, Murray Reid <mhhr@xtra.co.nz> wrote: > My ancestor Thomas REID is buried at Alloway and his headstone says "Thomas > Reid, Dyster of Craig Mill..." > > For some time I have been trying to locate the mill, or more likely its > ruins. > > A kind researcher in Australia sent me the link to this map > http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/print.cfm#zoom=17 > <http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/print.cfm#zoom=17&lat= > 55.4191&lon=-4.6233&la > yers=5&b=1> &lat=55.4191&lon=-4.6233&layers=5&b=1 > > The ruins of the mill are very clearly named, on a bend in the river Doon > between Maybole and Alloway. > > The map is very clever as you can superimpose a satellite image over the > old > map. When I zoom in on the image it appears to me that there is a weir on > the bend in the river and what is likely to be the remnants of a water race > leading from the weir into a wooded area. As the wooded area is also shown > on the old map I think there may be a reasonable chance that some parts of > the old mill may still be able to be seen. > > Now that summer has arrived in Scotland is there any lister living in the > vicinity that could volunteer to do a field trip for me please? > > I would be there in a shot but it would take Emirates 34 hours to get me > there! > > Regards > > Murray Reid > > NZ > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Debbie Rea