Since the LDS doesn't rent films any longer (you can view at the LDS Family History Library at Salt Lake City), your best bet is the Scotland's People website where using the PPV system, you can get access to all the Scottish censuses at www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/. Happy hunting! Jim > On January 23, 2018 at 12:00 AM ayrshire-request@rootsweb.com mailto:ayrshire-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > Send AYRSHIRE mailing list submissions to > ayrshire@rootsweb.com mailto:ayrshire@rootsweb.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists9.rootsweb.ancestry.com/mailman/listinfo/ayrshire > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > ayrshire-request@rootsweb.com mailto:ayrshire-request@rootsweb.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > ayrshire-owner@rootsweb.com mailto:ayrshire-owner@rootsweb.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of AYRSHIRE digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > 1. Re: Ayrshire Census (Garry F Bell) > > > --------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 18:17:57 +1300 > From: Garry F Bell > Cc: > Subject: Re: [AYR] Ayrshire Census > Message-ID: <5A66C585.4020008@slingshot.co mailto:5A66C585.4020008@slingshot.co .nz> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; format=flowed > > Thanks to all those who replied to my message. > Garry > > > > > > > > > Because of all the Rootsweb problems I don't know how active this > > > > > > > > site is. > > > > > > > > > > If one is searching all the Census for Ayrshire which are the best > > > sites? Regardless of whether they are Free or PPV. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Digest Footer > > To contact the AYRSHIRE list administrator, send an email to > AYRSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com mailto:AYRSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com . > > To post a message to the AYRSHIRE mailing list, send an email to AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com mailto:AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com . > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com mailto:AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > --------------------------------------------- > > End of AYRSHIRE Digest, Vol 13, Issue 14 > **************************************** >

Thanks to all those who replied to my message. Garry > > Because of all the Rootsweb problems I don't know how active this > site is. > > > > If one is searching all the Census for Ayrshire which are the best > > sites? Regardless of whether they are Free or PPV.

Thanks Nuala. Garry > https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/ > > Not free but very reasonable and it is the "go to" site for all records.

Hello Because of all the Rootsweb problems I don't know how active this site is. If one is searching all the Census for Ayrshire which are the best sites? Regardless of whether they are Free or PPV. With thanks Garry Auckland , New Zealand

Free Cen 1841 and 1851  Census Ayrshire is on line, 1861 - nil.  Find coverage details here: https://freecen2.freecen.org.uk/freecen_coverage Search here: https://www.freecen.org.uk/cgi/search.pl Anne > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/ Not free but very reasonable and it is the "go to" site for all records. Nuala On 21/01/2018 08:53, Garry F Bell wrote: > Hello > > Because of all the Rootsweb problems I don't know how active this site > is. > > If one is searching all the Census for Ayrshire which are the best > sites? Regardless of whether they are Free or PPV. > > With thanks > Garry > Auckland , New Zealand > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

BTW, at scotlandspeople.gov.uk you can purchase images of the actual census. > On January 21, 2018 at 4:00 AM Garry F Bell <hellolad@slingshot.co.nz> wrote: > > > Thanks Nuala. > Garry > > https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/ > > > > Not free but very reasonable and it is the "go to" site for all records. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Gary. The best site is www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk. Loretta (Lynn) Layman Carroll Valley, Pennsylvania > On January 21, 2018 at 3:53 AM Garry F Bell <hellolad@slingshot.co.nz> wrote: > > > Hello > > Because of all the Rootsweb problems I don't know how active this site is. > > If one is searching all the Census for Ayrshire which are the best > sites? Regardless of whether they are Free or PPV. > > With thanks > Garry > Auckland , New Zealand > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Linda That sources sounds like it is a quote from Black's book. The are just a few problems - A) Simon, who is said by most people to have been the founder of Clan Boyd, parents were Aveline de Hesdin and Robert FitzWalter, sheriff of Norfolk. I think that both of these are Norman and not Gaelic. I have been told that Aveline's father was the Treasurer for the Knights Templar and she was his sole heir. B) "It originated in the region of Bute". My limited understand is that Simon and Walter Stewart, his half brother from Aveline's first marriage with Alan FitzFlaad, came to Scotland in King David's time in the 1100's - I think I recall that was in about 1140's, but I could be corrected on the date. Bute was in Viking control until the Battle of Largs in 1263 - so why would the Half brother of the High Stewart of Scotland live outside the lands controlled by the King of Scotland? It is understood that the head of the Boyds had the Barony of Gavin and Risk, I assume it was part of Walter Stewart's lands in Renfrewshire. This is situated on the A 737 Road at the Renfrewshire/Ayrshire border. Then most likely just after 1263 got the lands of Noddsdale, NE of Largs, as in 1306 at Bruce's Coronation at Scone, the 4th Sir Robert Boyd, is termed as "Sir Robert Boyd, a small landowner in Cunningham, Ayrshire." But did not name the Estate. In this list of 26 people listed in 1306, were Bishops, Earl's, some Lords, and number of knight like Sir Robert Boyd. C) "A Scottish and English surname of Boyd is from the Gaelic language with the word ‘buidhe’ which means yellow or golden". When I first started to trace my family in 1980, I saw this term and was not sure if they talking about the "red" hair of the Celts (of which plenty Boyds have) or the blonde hair of the Vikings. After 37 years I am leaning toward the "Red hair of the Celts, but I have yet to learn why the Gaelic work ‘buidhe’ is used for their name, when most of the people around them were Norman. I will add the add the three new names to this list. Mike Boyd Brisbane, Aust. -----Original Message----- From: LINDA NORDBY Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 1:31 PM To: ayrshire@rootsweb.com ayrshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AYR] SPELLING VARIATIONS FOR BOYD. > > How about this Mike, from Family tree.com > > A Scottish and English surname of Boyd is from the Gaelic language with > the word ‘buidhe’ which means yellow or golden. Another Gaelic form was > ‘bod and ‘boid’. It originated in the region of Bute, located in the > southwestern coastal area of Scotland. The Boyd family name was very > common in the city of Edinburgh, Scotland. > > Spelling variations for Boyd include Bhoid, McElwee, Boyde, Boid and Boyt. > > Linda > Sent from my iPad > >> On Jan 19, 2018, at 4:46 PM, Mike Boyd <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> wrote: >> >> Do any member of this list know of any additional spelling variations >> that can be added to this list? >> >> Thank you >> >> Mike Boyd >> Brisbane, Aust >> >> From: Mike Boyd >> Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 10:44 AM >> To: boyd@rootsweb.com >> Subject: SPELLING VARIATIONS FOR BOYD. >> >> Currently, I have this list of Boyd spelling variations or alternative >> spelling for the name “BOYD” >> >> >> >> “Bod, Boddagh, Bodha, Boid, Boit, Boite, Boy, Boyd, Boyde, Boyman, Boyte, >> Buidhe, O’Boyd, >> >> >> >> I am not sure if >> >> >> >> Boydston, >> >> >> >> Should this be included, as I understand this is short for Boydstown. >> >> >> >> I have also seen names like Boydett or similar listed as alternative Boyd >> spellings. “ >> >> >> >> I was told somewhere last year that someone had seen a list of 27 >> spelling variations for the name Boyd, but this is all that I have been >> bale to find so far. (At the Glasgow, KY Games in 2017, the Irvine tent >> said on a banner that their name was spelt 280 different ways.) >> >> >> >> If you THINK THAT THAT YOU HAVE FOUND ANY OTHER SPELLING VARIATIONS, >> please advise the list and myself. >> >> >> >> The most come variations are BOYDE and BOID. But when you go to the >> Library this year you may nee dot take all of these so that you can look >> under ALTERNATE SPELLING OF OUR NAME. >> >> >> >> I know that Boyds were in the Germanic State form the 1400’s; they were >> in France and Spain and I assume a number of other European countries >> like Sweden, Poland and Russia. So in these counties outside of Scotland >> would or could the name be also spelt differently as well? >> >> >> >> Mike Boyd >> >> Chairman >> >> Historical Committee, HBS >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Do any member of this list know of any additional spelling variations that can be added to this list? Thank you Mike Boyd Brisbane, Aust From: Mike Boyd Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 10:44 AM To: boyd@rootsweb.com Subject: SPELLING VARIATIONS FOR BOYD. Currently, I have this list of Boyd spelling variations or alternative spelling for the name “BOYD” “Bod, Boddagh, Bodha, Boid, Boit, Boite, Boy, Boyd, Boyde, Boyman, Boyte, Buidhe, O’Boyd, I am not sure if Boydston, Should this be included, as I understand this is short for Boydstown. I have also seen names like Boydett or similar listed as alternative Boyd spellings. “ I was told somewhere last year that someone had seen a list of 27 spelling variations for the name Boyd, but this is all that I have been bale to find so far. (At the Glasgow, KY Games in 2017, the Irvine tent said on a banner that their name was spelt 280 different ways.) If you THINK THAT THAT YOU HAVE FOUND ANY OTHER SPELLING VARIATIONS, please advise the list and myself. The most come variations are BOYDE and BOID. But when you go to the Library this year you may nee dot take all of these so that you can look under ALTERNATE SPELLING OF OUR NAME. I know that Boyds were in the Germanic State form the 1400’s; they were in France and Spain and I assume a number of other European countries like Sweden, Poland and Russia. So in these counties outside of Scotland would or could the name be also spelt differently as well? Mike Boyd Chairman Historical Committee, HBS

> > How about this Mike, from Family tree.com > > A Scottish and English surname of Boyd is from the Gaelic language with the word ‘buidhe’ which means yellow or golden. Another Gaelic form was ‘bod and ‘boid’. It originated in the region of Bute, located in the southwestern coastal area of Scotland. The Boyd family name was very common in the city of Edinburgh, Scotland. > > Spelling variations for Boyd include Bhoid, McElwee, Boyde, Boid and Boyt. > > Linda > Sent from my iPad > >> On Jan 19, 2018, at 4:46 PM, Mike Boyd <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> wrote: >> >> Do any member of this list know of any additional spelling variations that can be added to this list? >> >> Thank you >> >> Mike Boyd >> Brisbane, Aust >> >> From: Mike Boyd >> Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 10:44 AM >> To: boyd@rootsweb.com >> Subject: SPELLING VARIATIONS FOR BOYD. >> >> Currently, I have this list of Boyd spelling variations or alternative spelling for the name “BOYD” >> >> >> >> “Bod, Boddagh, Bodha, Boid, Boit, Boite, Boy, Boyd, Boyde, Boyman, Boyte, Buidhe, O’Boyd, >> >> >> >> I am not sure if >> >> >> >> Boydston, >> >> >> >> Should this be included, as I understand this is short for Boydstown. >> >> >> >> I have also seen names like Boydett or similar listed as alternative Boyd spellings. “ >> >> >> >> I was told somewhere last year that someone had seen a list of 27 spelling variations for the name Boyd, but this is all that I have been bale to find so far. (At the Glasgow, KY Games in 2017, the Irvine tent said on a banner that their name was spelt 280 different ways.) >> >> >> >> If you THINK THAT THAT YOU HAVE FOUND ANY OTHER SPELLING VARIATIONS, please advise the list and myself. >> >> >> >> The most come variations are BOYDE and BOID. But when you go to the Library this year you may nee dot take all of these so that you can look under ALTERNATE SPELLING OF OUR NAME. >> >> >> >> I know that Boyds were in the Germanic State form the 1400’s; they were in France and Spain and I assume a number of other European countries like Sweden, Poland and Russia. So in these counties outside of Scotland would or could the name be also spelt differently as well? >> >> >> >> Mike Boyd >> >> Chairman >> >> Historical Committee, HBS >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Linda and Inez In 1603 the Earl of Antrim in County Antrim, Ireland, although a Catholic, brought over to his lands Covenantors from the Lowland to farm his lands in The Route. This is between Ballymoney and Ballycastle. The Church at Kilraghts is still a covenantor Church today. So it might be worth contaxting them to see if any Bankhead's came as part of that migration. On the road from Derrykeigan to Ballybogy and just over the bridge as you cross the Bush River is a Montgomery Family (on the west side). I think that it is called Benvarden House? Very nice two story house if I recall. So Elizabeth Bankhead might be part of that family? Are you on the two County Antrim rootsweb.com net lists? If not it might be worth following this line up on those sites. Although records were destroyed in 1922, there is still much that can be found. Mike Boyd -----Original Message----- From: Linda Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2018 1:05 PM To: 'Mike Boyd' ; AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com ; inezmayall@optusnet.com.au Subject: RE: [AYR] Fw: Hugh Bankhead Grisel Muir Hello Inez, I have information on the Bankhead families that may be of interest to you if you have not been able to find information on your Hugh Bankhead and Grizel/Grace Muir/Mure or Moor (possibly other variants as well). In part, I will paste from an original Rootschat document regarding the Bankhead Family History which was posted back in back in 2010 and I am not sure if the link is still open and not broken, so will send you what I have on my file as an and will send in the entirety as an attachment to your own reading and should aid you in your search. I think you will find it a very interesting as it is well documented with sources such as OPR Hearth Tax etc. Cheers Linda Nordby 1763 a Hugh Bankhead surgeon in Portressock (Port Logan) Wigtounshire died leaving a widow Grizzel Moor and children Jacobina and William. This is the son of the above Hugh. He married Grisel/Grizzle Muir/Moor in BALLANTRAE (S Ayrshire) parish on 25th April 1758. A daughter Jacobina was christened on 11/3/1759, son William 27/6/1761 Jacobina married Samuel McCutcheon at Kirkmaiden by Drummore 12/4/1784. A William Bankhead married Ann Bryce in Stoneykirk 12/3/1827, a descendant obviously, but whose? PART II THE BANKHEADS. A SMALL SCOTS-IRISH FAMILY This is a companion volume to the story of the Bankhead family in Scotland. It is a regrettable fact that the destruction of an enormous amount of Irish records when the Four Courts in Dublin were stormed in the Irish Civil War of 1922 has rendered it extremely difficult for family historians. So what follows is, in respect of early records, necessarily patchy. EARLY RECORDS >From our Scottish research we know that at least one member of the family was in Ulster by 1604. Elizabeth Bankhead spouse of Hugh Montgomery, sergeant of the Regality of Kilwinning, is mentioned in a sasine as being of Killiglen in the County of Antrim. This ties in with the known concentration of the family in the Scottish parishes of Kilwinning and Kilmaurs.

sORRY DID NOT SEND THIS TO THE WHOLE LIST. Perhaps others might have other sources that can help Inez? Mike boyd -----Original Message----- From: Mike Boyd Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 10:22 PM To: inezmayall@optusnet.com.au Subject: Re: [AYR] Hugh Bankhead Grisel Muir Inez I assume that your Grisel Muir is not one of the Muir's of Rowallan Castle between Fenwick and Kilmaurs. If I do recall from either George Robertson book of the 1820's or James Paterson's book of the 1850's and 1860's, there was at least one Muir family in Carrick, Ayrshire (what is now called South Ayrshire). But I can't recall the location as I was searching for Boyd families. So it might be worth contacting the South Ayrshire Local Studies Library in Ayr (town) to see if they have any information on either the families of Bankhead and Muir. That will only work if they have a farm. So do you know Hugh's occupation etc? The other area to look at is the "Scotlandpeople" website that gives the Old Parish Register's. It might be worth going to your local Library or Family History/Genealogical Society to get some assistance in finding your way through this website. I would start with the two children you know to see what details it might provide? For example, it might tell you that William is the 10th or 15th child and his father's occupation and other items that can help you i your research. So you might be able to work out when they married and look at the records for that period. I think that Bankhead is also a Kilmarnock/Fenwick name as well, so it might be worth looking in the Archives for this list. (I assume that the new List master will be able to provide you with advise on how to do that.) If you use Dr google to find websites that might list them - be "very careful" about any trees on their website. (I am in the process of writing a letter to a query and the website said that a 12 months old girl had a son. [I know I went to a boys boarding high school, and we had a settled life - but even I know that 12 month girls can't have children, even with Scottish medicine.] ) So use your good Australian common sense when you are looking at these trees. They might lead you to contacts and data. Mike Boyd Brisbane, Aust. -----Original Message----- From: inezmayall@optusnet.com.au Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 10:44 AM To: ayrshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [AYR] Hugh Bankhead Grisel Muir Greetings to everyone, I am looking for any information on Hugh Bankhead who Married Grisel Muir in 1758 in Ballantrae. I know of at least 2 children Jacobina Bankhead born 1759 William Bankhead born 1761 my 3X Great Grandfather I would like to know if there are any other children and also parents of Grisel and Hugh Regards Inez Victoria Australia ---

no, mine is McWhinnie! -----Original Message----- From: ruth.enns@shaw.ca Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 8:33 PM To: AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com Subject: [AYR] Wm & Grizzel MUIT I have a Wm Muir m to Grizzel McWhinnie m: 1784 Straiton, Ayr ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have a Wm Muir m to Grizzel McWhinnie m: 1784 Straiton, Ayr

Hello Inez, I have information on the Bankhead families that may be of interest to you if you have not been able to find information on your Hugh Bankhead and Grizel/Grace Muir/Mure or Moor (possibly other variants as well). In part, I will paste from an original Rootschat document regarding the Bankhead Family History which was posted back in back in 2010 and I am not sure if the link is still open and not broken, so will send you what I have on my file as an and will send in the entirety as an attachment to your own reading and should aid you in your search. I think you will find it a very interesting as it is well documented with sources such as OPR Hearth Tax etc. Cheers Linda Nordby 1763 a Hugh Bankhead surgeon in Portressock (Port Logan) Wigtounshire died leaving a widow Grizzel Moor and children Jacobina and William. This is the son of the above Hugh. He married Grisel/Grizzle Muir/Moor in BALLANTRAE (S Ayrshire) parish on 25th April 1758. A daughter Jacobina was christened on 11/3/1759, son William 27/6/1761 Jacobina married Samuel McCutcheon at Kirkmaiden by Drummore 12/4/1784. A William Bankhead married Ann Bryce in Stoneykirk 12/3/1827, a descendant obviously, but whose? PART II THE BANKHEADS. A SMALL SCOTS-IRISH FAMILY This is a companion volume to the story of the Bankhead family in Scotland. It is a regrettable fact that the destruction of an enormous amount of Irish records when the Four Courts in Dublin were stormed in the Irish Civil War of 1922 has rendered it extremely difficult for family historians. So what follows is, in respect of early records, necessarily patchy. EARLY RECORDS >From our Scottish research we know that at least one member of the family was in Ulster by 1604. Elizabeth Bankhead spouse of Hugh Montgomery, sergeant of the Regality of Kilwinning, is mentioned in a sasine as being of Killiglen in the County of Antrim. This ties in with the known concentration of the family in the Scottish parishes of Kilwinning and Kilmaurs. However we have to wait until 1631 to note the presence of one James #1 Bankhead who is recorded in a muster roll as being on the lands of the Earl of Antrim in Dunluce Barony. He possessed no weapons. Now in the course of my quest I had the good fortune to make the acquaintance of Jim Bankhead a retired school teacher from Coleraine. Jim had spend years researching the family history and when age and infirmity meant that he could no longer continue this he presented me with his complete notes. These start with a family legend that 2 brothers came over from Scotland in 17th Century, one settling in Coleraine, the other going South to Ahoghill. The presence of James #1 near Dunluce does seem to tie in with the latter when further evidence is considered and it is a fact that up until my own fathers time the Bankhead name was almost exclusive to Ahoghill and environs. There are few surviving records for Co. Antrim in this period and it is not until 1669 and the Hearth Money Rolls that the Bankhead name reappears. A James #2 Bankhead was recorded at Eden,Kilconway Barony, Finvoy Parish. Since this is between Coleraine and Ahoghill it might indicate the origins of the Ahoghill 'clan' although it is not until 1740 that the first positive sighting in that parish occurs. However various Coleraine records give rise to a few interesting puzzles of their own. The Rev John Grahams 'Derriana' published in 1823 describes a statement from citizens of Coleraine dated 3rd Feb 1690 which commends the behaviour of Michelburns regiment in the town. Amongst the signatories are Hugh #1 Bankhead. James Ousteau and John G ........ (illegible). The Minutes of the Ulster Synod which have been published in Book Form can offer a reliable guide to the early locations of Ulster families and this is certainly true in our case. On Sept 30th 1691 Hugh #1 Bankhead is recorded as a commissioner from Coleraine together with James Ousteau and John Gault. It will be remembered from our Scottish research that James-Hugh is the favoured family naming sequence for many many generations. This Hugh is periodically mentioned as a Commissioner up to 1706 and as a Ruling Elder in 1698. However the very earliest mention is in the council minutes of 10th Dec 1678 when Hugh was admitted as a freeman paying '£4 & silver spoon with marks and the fees'. The following 15th March he and others who had not appeared to take their oath were commanded to do so at the Mayors house before 20th March. A prerogative will is one in which property was left in more than one Diocese. These alas were victims of the destruction in 1922 but luckily Benhams Genealogical index drawn up prior to that date survives. In it we find the will of Hugh Bankhead of Killoran (Coleraine), a Tanner,dated 4th March 1718 and intriguingly that of his son James #3 of Coleraine,dated 11th December in the same year. A fairly complete family tree can be determined from the Benham abstracts. Hugh #1 -----Original Message----- From: AYRSHIRE [mailto:ayrshire-bounces+searchinguk=shaw.ca@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mike Boyd Sent: January 17, 2018 12:36 PM To: AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com Subject: [AYR] Fw: Hugh Bankhead Grisel Muir sORRY DID NOT SEND THIS TO THE WHOLE LIST. Perhaps others might have other sources that can help Inez? Mike boyd -----Original Message----- From: Mike Boyd Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 10:22 PM To: inezmayall@optusnet.com.au Subject: Re: [AYR] Hugh Bankhead Grisel Muir Inez I assume that your Grisel Muir is not one of the Muir's of Rowallan Castle between Fenwick and Kilmaurs. If I do recall from either George Robertson book of the 1820's or James Paterson's book of the 1850's and 1860's, there was at least one Muir family in Carrick, Ayrshire (what is now called South Ayrshire). But I can't recall the location as I was searching for Boyd families. So it might be worth contacting the South Ayrshire Local Studies Library in Ayr (town) to see if they have any information on either the families of Bankhead and Muir. That will only work if they have a farm. So do you know Hugh's occupation etc? The other area to look at is the "Scotlandpeople" website that gives the Old Parish Register's. It might be worth going to your local Library or Family History/Genealogical Society to get some assistance in finding your way through this website. I would start with the two children you know to see what details it might provide? For example, it might tell you that William is the 10th or 15th child and his father's occupation and other items that can help you i your research. So you might be able to work out when they married and look at the records for that period. I think that Bankhead is also a Kilmarnock/Fenwick name as well, so it might be worth looking in the Archives for this list. (I assume that the new List master will be able to provide you with advise on how to do that.) If you use Dr google to find websites that might list them - be "very careful" about any trees on their website. (I am in the process of writing a letter to a query and the website said that a 12 months old girl had a son. [I know I went to a boys boarding high school, and we had a settled life - but even I know that 12 month girls can't have children, even with Scottish medicine.] ) So use your good Australian common sense when you are looking at these trees. They might lead you to contacts and data. Mike Boyd Brisbane, Aust. -----Original Message----- From: inezmayall@optusnet.com.au Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 10:44 AM To: ayrshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [AYR] Hugh Bankhead Grisel Muir Greetings to everyone, I am looking for any information on Hugh Bankhead who Married Grisel Muir in 1758 in Ballantrae. I know of at least 2 children Jacobina Bankhead born 1759 William Bankhead born 1761 my 3X Great Grandfather I would like to know if there are any other children and also parents of Grisel and Hugh Regards Inez Victoria Australia --- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Greetings to everyone, I am looking for any information on Hugh Bankhead who Married Grisel Muir in 1758 in Ballantrae. I know of at least 2 children Jacobina Bankhead born 1759 William Bankhead born 1761 my 3X Great Grandfather I would like to know if there are any other children and also parents of Grisel and Hugh Regards Inez Victoria Australia --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

The 1616 Lands of Penkill >From the National Records of Scotland’s Catalogue it has reference Number RH 2/8/111/15 that says “Extract special retour in favour of Thomas Boyd, now of Penkill, [*], as heir of deceased Adam Boyd of Penkill [**], his fathering the 4 merkland of Pemont alias Coulsoul, and the 20 shilingland of Pene, in the earldom of Carrick; the lands detailed in no. RH 2/8/111/5, the 50 shilingland of Tralong and the 40 shilingland of the principal manson lands of Shaillochwreck in the bailary of Carrick, the 3 poundland of knockgerran in earldom of Carrick, the 6 shiling 8 pennyland and 20 shilingland of Craigdow parish of Girvan and bailary of Carrick; and the merland of Clashevalich in the baillary of Carrick; all in Sheriffdom of Ayr.” 23 Nov 1616. >From what is known about the Boyds of Penkill, it would appear that:- [*] Is Thomas Boyd, N1 Thomas Boyd, fourth Laird of Penkill, bc 1578 (Scotland), d 1673 (Scotland), mc / /1598, Marion Mure, dau of Sir William and Elizabeth (nee Montgomerie) Mure, of Rowallan, b 15xx, d 16xx, and had issue:- m 2ndly, 16xx, Dick, dau of Sir Andrew Dick, of Craighouse, b 15xx, d 16xx, and had no issue:-[1] [Lived: ] - Clarke said he succeeded his father in 1596. Thomas was served heir to the lands of Wester Sanquhar in 1601, and to estates in Carrick in 1616. While the [**] Adam Boyd is:- M1 Adam Boyd, third Laird of Penkill, b 1557 (Scotland), d 1596, bu Old Dailly Cemetery, mc 1577, Janet Kennedy, dau of Kennedy, b 15xx, d 16xx, and had issue:- [Lived: ] - Clarke said he succeeded his father in 1583[2]. This list of lands in 1616 is “much greater” that most Boyds have given for this family of Penkill. In this “special retour” there is no mention of the Penkill estate, so was that covered by another document The location of the Estates of (i) 4 merkland of Pemont alias Coulsoul; [Pemont might now be spelt as Peidmont?] (ii) 20 shilingland of Pene; (iii) 50 shilingland of Tralong; (iv) 40 shilingland of the principal manson lands of Shaillochwreck; (v) 3 poundland of knockgerran; (vi) the 6 shiling 8 pennyland and 20 shilingland of Craigdow parish of Girvan (vii) the merland of Clashevalich I am not sure if all these lands are within the Parish of Girvan, Carrick Ayrshire of if some are without the Parish of Girvan from their listing. Nor am I sure of the difference between “earldom of Carrick” and “the baillary of Carrick”. It would appear that in the 1790’s when Spencer Boyd of Virginia, USA became twelfth Laird of Penkill, he was required to sell some of these estates to pay of debts form the estate. [This will also need to be researched.] The lands of Trochrig, who went to the second son of Adam Boyd, first Laird of Penkill, are separate to the above lands. Since I first went to Ayrshire in 2005, I have been though a number of the books written by George Robertson in the 1820’s and James Paterson in the 1850’s and 1860’s, but I can’t recall any of these Estates coming up. By the 1691 Hearth Tax list there was only the Boyd of Penkill and the Boyd of Trochrig listed in that tax list. This is a first draft to advise people that the Penkill Estate was once much larger than the Estate of that name and that other Boyd families could have lived on the above list of Estates in the 1500’s, 1600’s and even into the 1700’s in the Parish of Girvan and Parish of Dailly. If your Boyd family was perhaps one of those families I would like to hear from you please? Mike Boyd Chairman Historical Committee, HBS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [1]The Boyds of Penkill and Trochrig Their Ancestors and Descendants by Seymour Clarke, 1909, p 17, said no issue for this second marriage. [2]Again why early and is there a charter?

The first Boyd Games of 2018 will be held at Central Winds Park, 1000 Central Winds Drive, Winter Springs Florida this coming weekend. So even if your family is not Boyd – the Boyd married into many Ayrshire families – it would well be worth calling to visit. I understand that Winter Springs – from my map – is on the north side of Orlando in Central Florida. If you are wintering in Florida or sick of Disney World and would like some nice Scottish Culture, I am sure that Bill Boyd from Cobb County, Georgia and his two helpers will make you most welcomed at the Boyd tent. (One of these helpers was the Director of the Games at Glasgow, KY, so Maureen will have much wider knowledge of other Clans and their history.) Have an enjoyable weekend and I hope it is much cooler than Brisbane, Aust. (I need a trip tray!) Mike Boyd Brisbane, Aust.

Hi all not sure if you receive this post Rootsweb is currently unavailable and it seems mailing lists have been suspended Could previous admins plz email me at bayz@orcon.net.nz as i cant sign into admin tools Thanks all Julie-Ann --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus