Greetings to all, I have the certificate image for the marriage of John Kean and Grace McLelland. I am happy to share it with the Caldwell family. 615/8 Stevenston Ayrshire John Keen is a stoker at the dynamite works, age 46 yrs and a bachelor. Grace McLelland is aged 42 yrs and both are living on New Street, Stevenston. Both signed. Witnesses: Robert Miller and Maggie Logan Parents named as Hugh McLelland, Coal Miner and Grace McLelland, maiden surname Shaw. (Both deceased) Parents for John Keen named as William Kean, hand loom weaver and Margaret Kean, maiden surname Boyd. (Both deceased) Registered in Stevenston May 24, 1883. Also, I think there may be a death record for William Kean who died on Raise St, Ardrossan 1859. He is noted as a widow and informant is nephew William Kean nephew. Possibly the nephew named in the 51 census living with the family age 20 yrs. Upon the death of father William, he is noted as widowed (no spouse named) parents named but mothers name not very legible. I am happy to forward to you John 1859 1859 KEAN, WILLIAM (Statutory registers Deaths 576/ 45) All the best, Linda Nordby found a death for father Sent from my iPad > On Mar 15, 2018, at 5:43 PM, Louise Gibson <louise2tas@bigpond.com> wrote: > > Ayrshire List, Mike Boyd and John Caldwell > > I am not on the Renfrew List thus I cannot see if there were any replies, but from > a quick search on Scotland's People, I found the following: > > John Kean and Grace McLellan did marry in Stevenston in 1883 > > There is a family of William and Margaret Kean, with a number of children (but no John), in the 1851 census in Ardrossan > There are no burials in the OPR for Ardrossan from 1851 - 1855 for the surname Kean, nor are there any relevant statutory deaths in Ardrossan for a Wm or Margaret Kean from 1855-1861 > > There is a 32 year gap between this couple in 1851, and John Kean's marriage in 1883, and thus there is no obvious connection between John Kean, and Wm and Mgt Kean, at this time. If the line being researched is John and Grace Kean, then the only way to go is to buy the marriage certificate for John Kean and Grace McLellan, and work backwards from the information on that, as this certificate will have full details of both sets of parents and their occupations, and this John can then be followed backwards on the census. > > Via ScotlandsPeople, this marriage certificate will cost 6 credits = £1.4 = US$1.97 An incredibly small amount of money !! > Here in Tasmania, we pay AUS$50.00 for one certificate dated after 1900. > > Louise Gibson > Burnie > Tasmania in OZ > >> On 16/03/2018 7:38 AM, ayrshire-request@rootsweb.com wrote: >> ate: Fri, 16 Mar 2018 06:38:17 +1000 From: Mike Boyd<mikejboyd@bigpond.com> Subject: >> [AYR] Re: [SCT-RENFREW] Anyone researching any Boyd families - Margaret Boyd & William >> Kean To: Dorothy Caldwell<ncjcaldwell@cox.net>, <sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com>,<AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: >> <F83DC438012F4CE0B86DB3B3A4075302@MichaelPC> Content-Type: text/plain; >> charset="utf-8" >> John are your birth and death dates correct? Or is one out a 100 years? >> 1. Have you been in contact with the North Ayrshire Local Studies Library at Irvine? >> They should be able to do a quick look up on the various cemeteries in Ardrossan for >> your. >> And once we get the dates sorted out – others will be ale to help with other sources >> for those events as well? >> I understand that during the 1846 – 1850’s Irish Potato Famine, quite a lot of Irish >> came to the Stevenston – Ardrossan area of North Ayrshire. But if they were married in >> 1883, it would seem that this migration took place after that time. So what >> information is available on their marriage certificate of 1883? >> And what relation were they? This will also help to find data. >> I have copied this to the Ayrshire list as both Stevenston and Ardrosson are in that >> County, so hte people on that list will be able to help you more than the Renfrewshire >> Net list. >> Mike Boyd >> From: Dorothy Caldwell Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 12:51 AM To:sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com ; Mike Boyd Subject: Re: [SCT-RENFREW] Anyone researching >> any Boyd families >> my name is John Caldwell from Manchester, Ct. U. S.A. I have a Margaret Boyd that was >> married to William Kean with a son John Kean that was married to Grace McLellan on 21 >> May 1883 in Stevenston, Ayr. Scotland. I can't seem to find any information on Margaret >> or her husband William. Both of them I think were born in Ireland and died in >> Ardrossan, Ayr. around 1853 to 1859. If you have any infor on them it would be >> appreciated >> Thank you John

Hello again listers and Caldwell family, Some info re William Kean and Margaret Boyd. The 51 census has the family living on Paisley, Ardrossan Name: William Kean Age: 50 Estimated birth year: abt 1791 Gender: Male Where born: Ireland Civil Parish: Ardrossan County: Ayrshire Address: Ardrossan Paisley St Occupation: H L W Parish Number: 576 Household Members: Name Age William Kean 50 Margt Kean 50 William Kean 20 Catherine Kean 20 Rachel Kean 14 John Kean 13 Hannah Kean 9 Margt Kean 5 William Kean 20 USent from my iPad > On Mar 15, 2018, at 5:43 PM, Louise Gibson <louise2tas@bigpond.com> wrote: > > Ayrshire List, Mike Boyd and John Caldwell > > I am not on the Renfrew List thus I cannot see if there were any replies, but from > a quick search on Scotland's People, I found the following: > > John Kean and Grace McLellan did marry in Stevenston in 1883 > > There is a family of William and Margaret Kean, with a number of children (but no John), in the 1851 census in Ardrossan > There are no burials in the OPR for Ardrossan from 1851 - 1855 for the surname Kean, nor are there any relevant statutory deaths in Ardrossan for a Wm or Margaret Kean from 1855-1861 > > There is a 32 year gap between this couple in 1851, and John Kean's marriage in 1883, and thus there is no obvious connection between John Kean, and Wm and Mgt Kean, at this time. If the line being researched is John and Grace Kean, then the only way to go is to buy the marriage certificate for John Kean and Grace McLellan, and work backwards from the information on that, as this certificate will have full details of both sets of parents and their occupations, and this John can then be followed backwards on the census. > > Via ScotlandsPeople, this marriage certificate will cost 6 credits = £1.4 = US$1.97 An incredibly small amount of money !! > Here in Tasmania, we pay AUS$50.00 for one certificate dated after 1900. > > Louise Gibson > Burnie > Tasmania in OZ > >> On 16/03/2018 7:38 AM, ayrshire-request@rootsweb.com wrote: >> ate: Fri, 16 Mar 2018 06:38:17 +1000 From: Mike Boyd<mikejboyd@bigpond.com> Subject: >> [AYR] Re: [SCT-RENFREW] Anyone researching any Boyd families - Margaret Boyd & William >> Kean To: Dorothy Caldwell<ncjcaldwell@cox.net>, <sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com>,<AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: >> <F83DC438012F4CE0B86DB3B3A4075302@MichaelPC> Content-Type: text/plain; >> charset="utf-8" >> John are your birth and death dates correct? Or is one out a 100 years? >> 1. Have you been in contact with the North Ayrshire Local Studies Library at Irvine? >> They should be able to do a quick look up on the various cemeteries in Ardrossan for >> your. >> And once we get the dates sorted out – others will be ale to help with other sources >> for those events as well? >> I understand that during the 1846 – 1850’s Irish Potato Famine, quite a lot of Irish >> came to the Stevenston – Ardrossan area of North Ayrshire. But if they were married in >> 1883, it would seem that this migration took place after that time. So what >> information is available on their marriage certificate of 1883? >> And what relation were they? This will also help to find data. >> I have copied this to the Ayrshire list as both Stevenston and Ardrosson are in that >> County, so hte people on that list will be able to help you more than the Renfrewshire >> Net list. >> Mike Boyd >> From: Dorothy Caldwell Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 12:51 AM To:sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com ; Mike Boyd Subject: Re: [SCT-RENFREW] Anyone researching >> any Boyd families >> my name is John Caldwell from Manchester, Ct. U. S.A. I have a Margaret Boyd that was >> married to William Kean with a son John Kean that was married to Grace McLellan on 21 >> May 1883 in Stevenston, Ayr. Scotland. I can't seem to find any information on Margaret >> or her husband William. Both of them I think were born in Ireland and died in >> Ardrossan, Ayr. around 1853 to 1859. If you have any infor on them it would be >> appreciated >> Thank you John

Hello Mike I have become suspicious of the modern listings,and by modern, I mean after about 1990 and the introduction of the Internet. I use my surname as an example: Gibson, a Lowlands names, has been put into the Buchanan Clan, and that was so at least before the 1930's and well into the 1980's. When I search online nowadays, I find Gibson is listed in Buchanan, but is also listed in the Campbell clan.... how come ??? It was always in Buchanan. Some online websites have Gibson just in Buchanan, but a number now add Campbell. Is it a case of ...someone put it into Campbell on an online site, and "its online we'll just copy it" ? Another family name I have, McKirdy, is also a Lowlands name, peculiar to Bute and Ayrshire, and it goes into the Stewart clan, and within that clan, this needs to be specified, that the line is "Stewart of Bute" In testing others of my family surnames, such as Bower, most probably an anglicized form of the German surname "Bauer" has been slotted into Clan Sinclair on <https://www.houseoftartan.co.uk/scottish/searchsurname.asp> I feel that, in pushing all things Scottish, and trying to fit every surname into a clan, the whole thing has gone completely overboard, and is fast losing credibility My reference for all things clan and tartans is the 1953 edition of Robert Bain's book "The Clans and Tartans of Scotland", however, I do realize that there are a plethora of new tartans now available, and there are even several for "Louise of Lorne", and one for Princess Louise !!! By the way "Jones" is pure Welsh, as is "Williams" and I would suggest "Smith" being very English, therefore I cannot see how they could fit into any clan listings. As to where YOU go for a definitive and accurate listing, I would not be game to make any suggestions regarding ANY online sources anymore. I realize this sounds very cynical,.... but researching family history online tends to make one very wary these days. Louise Gibson Burnie Tasmania in OZ On 16/03/2018 11:05 AM, ayrshire-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2018 10:05:33 +1000 > From: Mike Boyd<mikejboyd@bigpond.com> > Subject: [AYR] Source for telling when Clan your name belongs to > To:<AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <BBB9AA371FC4485CA1B687BA5B827CD7@MichaelPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I have been manning Clan tents since 2009, and one of the questions that I have yet to find any source for is when someone comes along and says my name is “Smith” or “Jones” and what Clan do I belong to. > > While over the years I have bought a number of books on Scottish Clan and they normally at the back have a list of a few hundred family names that tell you are part of clan Hamilton, Gordon, etc. > > So how can you find out if “your name” is Scottish or not? > >>From other people manning other Clan tents, I have been told that there are some 17,000 Scottish names, but I have never seen any source of these. > > So does anyone know of any book or website that might be used as a reference. > > I have often told people to look at the Tartan History or Museum site – but I have never had any feed back as if that provides the answer or not. > > I am a member of the Scottish Group of the Genealogical Society of Queensland and last week I suggested to our Secretary that over time we might be able to develop and website – if one has not already been developed – to allow people to get an answer to this question. This group will now not meet until early May. > > Thank you > > Mike Boyd > Brisbane, Aust.

Hi all, I have not been on this list for many years but have decided to start again with my Davidson Wallace Families. I have a birth record that reads. Wallace Robert late of Wynd near Orchard a married man and Agnes Adamson of this Parish their Adulterous child Sara Born 18 April 1793 in Mauchline. I am looking for help in locating any information on my Robert Wallace and Agnes Adamson. I would appreciate any help at all. Regards Carol Melbourne Australia --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

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I have been manning Clan tents since 2009, and one of the questions that I have yet to find any source for is when someone comes along and says my name is “Smith” or “Jones” and what Clan do I belong to. While over the years I have bought a number of books on Scottish Clan and they normally at the back have a list of a few hundred family names that tell you are part of clan Hamilton, Gordon, etc. So how can you find out if “your name” is Scottish or not? From other people manning other Clan tents, I have been told that there are some 17,000 Scottish names, but I have never seen any source of these. So does anyone know of any book or website that might be used as a reference. I have often told people to look at the Tartan History or Museum site – but I have never had any feed back as if that provides the answer or not. I am a member of the Scottish Group of the Genealogical Society of Queensland and last week I suggested to our Secretary that over time we might be able to develop and website – if one has not already been developed – to allow people to get an answer to this question. This group will now not meet until early May. Thank you Mike Boyd Brisbane, Aust.

Ayrshire List, Mike Boyd and John Caldwell I am not on the Renfrew List thus I cannot see if there were any replies, but from a quick search on Scotland's People, I found the following: John Kean and Grace McLellan did marry in Stevenston in 1883 There is a family of William and Margaret Kean, with a number of children (but no John), in the 1851 census in Ardrossan There are no burials in the OPR for Ardrossan from 1851 - 1855 for the surname Kean, nor are there any relevant statutory deaths in Ardrossan for a Wm or Margaret Kean from 1855-1861 There is a 32 year gap between this couple in 1851, and John Kean's marriage in 1883, and thus there is no obvious connection between John Kean, and Wm and Mgt Kean, at this time. If the line being researched is John and Grace Kean, then the only way to go is to buy the marriage certificate for John Kean and Grace McLellan, and work backwards from the information on that, as this certificate will have full details of both sets of parents and their occupations, and this John can then be followed backwards on the census. Via ScotlandsPeople, this marriage certificate will cost 6 credits = £1.4 = US$1.97 An incredibly small amount of money !! Here in Tasmania, we pay AUS$50.00 for one certificate dated after 1900. Louise Gibson Burnie Tasmania in OZ On 16/03/2018 7:38 AM, ayrshire-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > ate: Fri, 16 Mar 2018 06:38:17 +1000 From: Mike Boyd<mikejboyd@bigpond.com> Subject: > [AYR] Re: [SCT-RENFREW] Anyone researching any Boyd families - Margaret Boyd & William > Kean To: Dorothy Caldwell<ncjcaldwell@cox.net>, > <sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com>,<AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: > <F83DC438012F4CE0B86DB3B3A4075302@MichaelPC> Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="utf-8" > > John are your birth and death dates correct? Or is one out a 100 years? > > 1. Have you been in contact with the North Ayrshire Local Studies Library at Irvine? > They should be able to do a quick look up on the various cemeteries in Ardrossan for > your. > > And once we get the dates sorted out – others will be ale to help with other sources > for those events as well? > > I understand that during the 1846 – 1850’s Irish Potato Famine, quite a lot of Irish > came to the Stevenston – Ardrossan area of North Ayrshire. But if they were married in > 1883, it would seem that this migration took place after that time. So what > information is available on their marriage certificate of 1883? > > And what relation were they? This will also help to find data. > > I have copied this to the Ayrshire list as both Stevenston and Ardrosson are in that > County, so hte people on that list will be able to help you more than the Renfrewshire > Net list. > > > Mike Boyd > > From: Dorothy Caldwell Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 12:51 AM > To:sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com ; Mike Boyd Subject: Re: [SCT-RENFREW] Anyone researching > any Boyd families > > my name is John Caldwell from Manchester, Ct. U. S.A. I have a Margaret Boyd that was > married to William Kean with a son John Kean that was married to Grace McLellan on 21 > May 1883 in Stevenston, Ayr. Scotland. I can't seem to find any information on Margaret > or her husband William. Both of them I think were born in Ireland and died in > Ardrossan, Ayr. around 1853 to 1859. If you have any infor on them it would be > appreciated > > Thank you John

Bill It is quite strange, I am non 6 rootsweb.com sites. five location, which have returned and one named - Boyd@rootsweb.com - but for the last week or 10 days nothing from that. Hopefully other named list are working. I know that different list are on different servers, so that might be the problem and the Boyd net list is on the one that decided it was not going to work. Mike Boyd -----Original Message----- From: Bill Davidson Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 8:47 AM To: ayrshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [AYR] Re: Are the Rootsweb.com named list also back up? Hi Mike, The Rootsweb site says they are back but they don’t seem to be working. I’ve tried 2 different emails neither work. I’m hoping this gets to you via reply. They had a website helper saying if your email does not work visit this Rootsweb affiliate and for $5 we’ll help you fix it. http://home.rootsweb.ancestry.com/listindexes/ Bill On Mar 15, 2018, at 17:33, Mike Boyd <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> wrote: Do any members know if the named lists are back up yet? I am on five location lists and they are back, but the Boyd named list does not yet seem to be working. So does this apply to other named net list? Mike Boyd Brisbane, Aust.

Hi Mike, The Rootsweb site says they are back but they don’t seem to be working. I’ve tried 2 different emails neither work. I’m hoping this gets to you via reply. They had a website helper saying if your email does not work visit this Rootsweb affiliate and for $5 we’ll help you fix it. http://home.rootsweb.ancestry.com/listindexes/ Bill On Mar 15, 2018, at 17:33, Mike Boyd <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> wrote: Do any members know if the named lists are back up yet? I am on five location lists and they are back, but the Boyd named list does not yet seem to be working. So does this apply to other named net list? Mike Boyd Brisbane, Aust.

Hello to John Caldwell, I have at some point accessed the marriage image for John Kean and Grace Mclelland, I do have information on the McLellands of Stevenston should you require anything, I may be able to help. This is a second marriage for Grace Mclelland, her husbandJohn Wallace died following the 1881 census. I recall that I wondered at the time if John Kean was related to the McKeans of Stevenston which are of my family line. I can have a look and see if I can help on the parents of John Kean. Best regard, Linda Nordby Sent from my iPad > On Mar 15, 2018, at 2:39 PM, Mike Boyd <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> wrote: > > John are your birth and death dates correct? Or is one out a 100 years? > > 1. Have you been in contact with the North Ayrshire Local Studies Library at Irvine? They should be able to do a quick look up on the various cemeteries in Ardrossan for your. > > And once we get the dates sorted out – others will be ale to help with other sources for those events as well? > > I understand that during the 1846 – 1850’s Irish Potato Famine, quite a lot of Irish came to the Stevenston – Ardrossan area of North Ayrshire. But if they were married in 1883, it would seem that this migration took place after that time. So what information is available on their marriage certificate of 1883? > > And what relation were they? This will also help to find data. > > I have copied this to the Ayrshire list as both Stevenston and Ardrosson are in that County, so hte people on that list will be able to help you more than the Renfrewshire Net list. > > > Mike Boyd > > From: Dorothy Caldwell > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 12:51 AM > To: sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com ; Mike Boyd > Subject: Re: [SCT-RENFREW] Anyone researching any Boyd families > > my name is John Caldwell from Manchester, Ct. U. S.A. I have a Margaret Boyd that was married to William Kean with a son > John Kean that was married to Grace McLellan on 21 May 1883 in Stevenston, Ayr. Scotland. I can't seem to find any information > on Margaret or her husband William. Both of them I think were born in Ireland and died in Ardrossan, Ayr. around 1853 to 1859. > If you have any infor on them it would be appreciated > > Thank you John > >> On March 7, 2018 at 4:49 PM Mike Boyd <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> wrote: >> >

Do any members know if the named lists are back up yet? I am on five location lists and they are back, but the Boyd named list does not yet seem to be working. So does this apply to other named net list? Mike Boyd Brisbane, Aust.

John are your birth and death dates correct? Or is one out a 100 years? 1. Have you been in contact with the North Ayrshire Local Studies Library at Irvine? They should be able to do a quick look up on the various cemeteries in Ardrossan for your. And once we get the dates sorted out – others will be ale to help with other sources for those events as well? I understand that during the 1846 – 1850’s Irish Potato Famine, quite a lot of Irish came to the Stevenston – Ardrossan area of North Ayrshire. But if they were married in 1883, it would seem that this migration took place after that time. So what information is available on their marriage certificate of 1883? And what relation were they? This will also help to find data. I have copied this to the Ayrshire list as both Stevenston and Ardrosson are in that County, so hte people on that list will be able to help you more than the Renfrewshire Net list. Mike Boyd From: Dorothy Caldwell Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 12:51 AM To: sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com ; Mike Boyd Subject: Re: [SCT-RENFREW] Anyone researching any Boyd families my name is John Caldwell from Manchester, Ct. U. S.A. I have a Margaret Boyd that was married to William Kean with a son John Kean that was married to Grace McLellan on 21 May 1883 in Stevenston, Ayr. Scotland. I can't seem to find any information on Margaret or her husband William. Both of them I think were born in Ireland and died in Ardrossan, Ayr. around 1853 to 1859. If you have any infor on them it would be appreciated Thank you John > On March 7, 2018 at 4:49 PM Mike Boyd <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> wrote: >

Hello Mike I have been following your research, as a lurker, on the List and your request prompted me to check my lot. I have descent from Robert Boyd, 1st Lord Boyd (died before 1482), through his daughter Elizabeth and her marriage to Archibald "Bell the Cat" Douglas, 5th Earl of Angus, as his first wife. My line comes down through the Douglas line to Margaret Douglas, daughter of David, 7th Earl of Angus, and her marriage to Francis Stewart, Earl of Bothwell (died before September 1620) I also have a small number of Boyd family members as twiglets, marrying a sibling of my direct lines, but I have not necessarily made connections of those Boyds. These are in the 15th, 16th and 17th centuries. As an example of one of those twiglets, I have Hugh Boyd married to Lillias Scott, daughter of James Scott of Scotsloch and provost of Irvine (died 1634 or 1636). My direct line is Laurence Scott, of Harperrig, & Clerkington, Advocate, the brother of this James. The father of these two men was Hew Scott of Scotsloch, provost of Irvine (died about 1618). I do not have anything more about this Hugh Boyd Louise Gibson Burnie, Tasmania in OZ On 8/03/2018 12:47 PM, ayrshire-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2018 07:47:50 +1000 > From: Mike Boyd<mikejboyd@bigpond.com> > Subject: [AYR] Anyone researching any Boyd families > To:<AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com> > > Is there anyone on this list that are researching any Boyd family - both male and female - and the pyramid of their descendants? If so I would like to hear from you please. > > I have some 870 Boyd Family Chapters in "Clan Boyd of Scotland". This is about 10,000 or more pages for a number of Counties including, Scotland, Ireland, England, Canada, USA, Australia and New Zealand. > > The Boyd name was first used in 1111 A. D. according to King George II, when William Boyd, 4th Earl of Kilmarnock was executed in August 1746, after being captured at Culloden. But King George II would not have passed his Collage exams as he did not cite his source for this date. > > It is "assumed" by Clan Boyd, that all Boyds stem from a single person, Sir Robert Boyd, who died in 1240 A. D., BUT I "UNDERSTAND" THERE IS MORE THAN ONE BOYD DNA grouping. I do not know if this occurred before or after 1240 A. D. or if the Boyds - like most Scotsmen - "went visiting" a few times." > > This Sir Robert Boyd's father is said to have been Simon, half brother to Walter Stewart, High Stewart of Scotland, through his mothers - Aveline de Hesdin - second marriage to Robert FitzWalter, Sheriff of Norfolk, England. I assume it is this Simon's birth in 1111 A. D. that King George II was referring to when he said the name Boyd was first used. This gap of 139 years between when the father was born and the son died, I would question if at least one generation is missing. > > Mike Boyd > Chairman > Historical Committee > House of Boyd Society > Brisbane, Aust.

Dave you will need to ask the Ayr (town) Library. While I have not l looked for any photos on any of my visits to the three Ayrshire Local Studies Libraries I am sure that they have photos. So ask hte Ayr town Library - I think it is the Carneigie. Mike Boyd -----Original Message----- From: David Fells Sent: Friday, March 9, 2018 12:00 AM To: ayrshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [AYR] Ayr school I have found three of my ancestors in the school admissions log book for 1878 at the Ayr Archives. The school was the Newton in Ayr Free Church school or Newtonhead Public school on Weaver Street but was demolished years ago. Anyone know where I can get a picture of this school? Many thanks Dave Sent from my iPhone

I found myself and my Dad in the school registers in the archives. My school no longer exists either. Bank Street Primary School in Irvine. I would recommend looking in registers to everyone. Eliena Sent from my iPhone > On 8 Mar 2018, at 14:03, David Fells <davidfells66@gmail.com> wrote: > > I have found three of my ancestors in the school admissions log book for 1878 at the Ayr Archives. > > The school was the Newton in Ayr Free Church school or Newtonhead Public school on Weaver Street but was demolished years ago. > > Anyone know where I can get a picture of this school? > > Many thanks > > Dave > > > > Sent from my iPhone > >

I have found three of my ancestors in the school admissions log book for 1878 at the Ayr Archives. The school was the Newton in Ayr Free Church school or Newtonhead Public school on Weaver Street but was demolished years ago. Anyone know where I can get a picture of this school? Many thanks Dave Sent from my iPhone

Hi All, Declaration of Arbroath celebrations being planned for 2020. There is a local organising committee which has a Facebook page. The committee was set up in 2016. Best wishes, Kay Edinburgh Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36>

First I have heard of IT! McWhinnie / McKenzie CLAN R -----Original Message----- From: Mike Boyd Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2018 2:31 PM To: ayrshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [AYR] 700th Anniversary on Treaty of Arbroath on 6 april 2020 Does anyone know if anything is bring planned for this 700th Anniversary? And whom should be contacted, etc? In 2012, when I was at some Highland Games in California, clan Wallace said they had 200 people already booked into a hotel for Bannockburn. Then other clans wanted to know how they had make the hotel booking as they were waiting for the 13 month prior period to make a booking. It would be very good to have a clans gathering, but I suspect that Arbroath would be too small to do that and any clans gathering would have to be held in Edinburgh like in 2009. Mike Boyd

Does anyone know if anything is bring planned for this 700th Anniversary? And whom should be contacted, etc? In 2012, when I was at some Highland Games in California, clan Wallace said they had 200 people already booked into a hotel for Bannockburn. Then other clans wanted to know how they had make the hotel booking as they were waiting for the 13 month prior period to make a booking. It would be very good to have a clans gathering, but I suspect that Arbroath would be too small to do that and any clans gathering would have to be held in Edinburgh like in 2009. Mike Boyd

Is there anyone on this list that are researching any Boyd family - both male and female - and the pyramid of their descendants? If so I would like to hear from you please. I have some 870 Boyd Family Chapters in "Clan Boyd of Scotland". This is about 10,000 or more pages for a number of Counties including, Scotland, Ireland, England, Canada, USA, Australia and New Zealand. The Boyd name was first used in 1111 A. D. according to King George II, when William Boyd, 4th Earl of Kilmarnock was executed in August 1746, after being captured at Culloden. But King George II would not have passed his Collage exams as he did not cite his source for this date. It is "assumed" by Clan Boyd, that all Boyds stem from a single person, Sir Robert Boyd, who died in 1240 A. D., BUT I "UNDERSTAND" THERE IS MORE THAN ONE BOYD DNA grouping. I do not know if this occurred before or after 1240 A. D. or if the Boyds - like most Scotsmen - "went visiting" a few times." This Sir Robert Boyd's father is said to have been Simon, half brother to Walter Stewart, High Stewart of Scotland, through his mothers - Aveline de Hesdin - second marriage to Robert FitzWalter, Sheriff of Norfolk, England. I assume it is this Simon's birth in 1111 A. D. that King George II was referring to when he said the name Boyd was first used. This gap of 139 years between when the father was born and the son died, I would question if at least one generation is missing. Mike Boyd Chairman Historical Committee House of Boyd Society Brisbane, Aust.