The Trial of Major Stede Bonnet and other pirates, including Robert Boyd, October 1718 at Charleston, SC. I was given this information privately – which I thought members would like to know. “https://search.library.wisc.edu/catalog/9910120263002121 The tryals of Major Stede Bonnet and other pirates, viz. Robert Tucker, Edward Robinson, Neal Paterson, William Scot, Job Bayley, John-William Smith, Thomas Carman, John Thomas, William Morrison, William Livers alias Evis, Samuel Booth, William Hewet, John Levit, William Eddy alias Nedy, Alexander Annand, George Ross, George Dunkin, John Ridge, Matthew King, Daniel Perry, Henry Virgin, James Robbins, James Mullet alias Millet, Thomas Price, John Lopez, Zachariah Long, James Wilson, John Brierly, and Robert Boyd, who were all condemn'd for piracy : as also, the tryals of Thomas Nicols, Rowland Sharp, Jonathan Clarke, and Thomas Gerrat for piracy, who were acquitted at the Admiralty Sessions held at Charles-Town in the province of South Carolina, on Tuesday the 28th of October 1718, and by several adjournments continued to Wednesday the 12th of November following : to which is prefix'd an account of the taking of the said Major Bonnet and the rest of the pirates.” Perhaps some of our South Carolina Cousins know more about this Robert Boyd and his actions. It would seem that he was executed – I assume by hanging? Would there be any grave in Charleston, SC for him or would all these people be put into a common grave? Where might all these people have come from - Ireland, Scotland or England? It is known that in the 1600’s and 1700’s a number of Boyds were sea captains or master’s of ships. So, in 1718 it is not unusual to see a Boyd at sea. And is there any indication of this Robert Boyd’s origins from these papers? This is about 10 years after Scotland and England were joined together, however, I can’t recall if Britain had “just ceased a war” with some other country to know if they were wanting to stop attacks on that Country’s shipping in 1718. So, this might be a nice puzzle for members on both sides of the Atlantic to make some inquiries and tell other members what they might find on this Robert Boyd of 1718 in Charleston, SC. Mike Boyd Chairman Historical Committee, HBS PS A number of these names look Scottish to me. So one of your missing families members might be listed?

Thank you all for your great help. I appreciate all the research material you have supplied Regards Alan Ritchie Gore On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 6:39 AM, ruth.enns@shaw.ca <redirect@vodafone.co.nz> wrote: > Correction from a friend. > > To: ruth.enns@shaw.ca > Subject: Re: [AYR] Re: McGHIE > > Hi, > > > > Strangely I do not have a single person on any of my family branches who > had any Ayrshire connections! The Alan Ritchie below also has a few things > very wrong. Amwoth is in Kirkcudbrightshire not Ayrshire and Thomasina was > born there in 1888 not 1880, she married William McCaa in 1915, Dalbeattie, > Kbt where she died as Thomasina McCaa in 1953 age 64. I do believe that he > may have been advised of the correct info. via 'Bruce' reading Karen's > last message below. > > > > Malcolm > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > -------------------- > > From: ruth.enns@shaw.ca <ruth.enns@shaw.ca> > Sent: 20 May 2018 11:13 > To: ; > Subject: Fw: [AYR] Re: McGHIE > > Some good reference links for Cumnock, Ayr, if you are looking there! > > R > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kay McMeekin > Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 1:28 AM > To: ayrshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AYR] Re: McGHIE > > Dear Alan > > This is what I found on William McCaa. Bruce is right about Thomasina's > death and she doesn’t appear to have married again as it is only register > under McCaa and McGhie > > https://cumnocksoldiers.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/william-mccaa.html WW1 > Soldiers from Cumnock: William McCaa > cumnocksoldiers.blogspot.co.uk > William McCaa was born in Cumnock about 1885, the son of William > McCaa and his wife Elizabeth Ritchie. In 1901 census the family is at > Garallan Smithy > > <https://cumnocksoldiers.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/william-mccaa.html> > > Kind regards > Kay > secretary, > Cumnock History group > http://www.cumnockhistorygroup.org <http://www.cumnockhistorygroup.org/> > > Cumnock History Group Facebook page > https://www.facebook.com/CumnockHistoryGroup/ > <https://www.facebook.com/CumnockHistoryGroup/> > > Cumnock Family History group > https://www.facebook.com/groups/cumnockfamilyhistory/ > <https://www.facebook.com/groups/cumnockfamilyhistory/> > > Cumnock Connections tree > http://cumnockconnections.tribalpages.com > <http://cumnockconnections.tribalpages.com/> > > > > > On 20 May 2018, at 05:08, Alan Ritchie <alan.ritchie18@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Looking for any information on Thomasina Mcghie. She married William > MCCAA > > on the 9th aug 1915, William went to the war just after they got married > > to not return having died at sea on his return home. Thomasina was born > at > > Anworth which I presume is in Cumnock. Thomasina was born in1880 the > > daughter of James McGhie and Willie ________. William was the son of > > William McCaa and Elizabeth Ritchie. I am trying to find if Thomasina > > remarried as she is not buried with her husband William. > > Regards Alan Ritchie Gore New Zealand > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > > > Unsubscribe > > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/ > ayrshire@rootsweb.com/ > > > > Archives: > > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/ > ayrshire@rootsweb.com/ > > > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > community > > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/ayrshire@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/ayrshire@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/ > ayrshire@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/ > ayrshire@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Correction from a friend. To: ruth.enns@shaw.ca Subject: Re: [AYR] Re: McGHIE Hi, Strangely I do not have a single person on any of my family branches who had any Ayrshire connections! The Alan Ritchie below also has a few things very wrong. Amwoth is in Kirkcudbrightshire not Ayrshire and Thomasina was born there in 1888 not 1880, she married William McCaa in 1915, Dalbeattie, Kbt where she died as Thomasina McCaa in 1953 age 64. I do believe that he may have been advised of the correct info. via 'Bruce' reading Karen's last message below. Malcolm -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ruth.enns@shaw.ca <ruth.enns@shaw.ca> Sent: 20 May 2018 11:13 To: ; Subject: Fw: [AYR] Re: McGHIE Some good reference links for Cumnock, Ayr, if you are looking there! R -----Original Message----- From: Kay McMeekin Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 1:28 AM To: ayrshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [AYR] Re: McGHIE Dear Alan This is what I found on William McCaa. Bruce is right about Thomasina's death and she doesn’t appear to have married again as it is only register under McCaa and McGhie https://cumnocksoldiers.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/william-mccaa.html WW1 Soldiers from Cumnock: William McCaa cumnocksoldiers.blogspot.co.uk William McCaa was born in Cumnock about 1885, the son of William McCaa and his wife Elizabeth Ritchie. In 1901 census the family is at Garallan Smithy <https://cumnocksoldiers.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/william-mccaa.html> Kind regards Kay secretary, Cumnock History group http://www.cumnockhistorygroup.org <http://www.cumnockhistorygroup.org/> Cumnock History Group Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/CumnockHistoryGroup/ <https://www.facebook.com/CumnockHistoryGroup/> Cumnock Family History group https://www.facebook.com/groups/cumnockfamilyhistory/ <https://www.facebook.com/groups/cumnockfamilyhistory/> Cumnock Connections tree http://cumnockconnections.tribalpages.com <http://cumnockconnections.tribalpages.com/> > On 20 May 2018, at 05:08, Alan Ritchie <alan.ritchie18@gmail.com> wrote: > > Looking for any information on Thomasina Mcghie. She married William MCCAA > on the 9th aug 1915, William went to the war just after they got married > to not return having died at sea on his return home. Thomasina was born at > Anworth which I presume is in Cumnock. Thomasina was born in1880 the > daughter of James McGhie and Willie ________. William was the son of > William McCaa and Elizabeth Ritchie. I am trying to find if Thomasina > remarried as she is not buried with her husband William. > Regards Alan Ritchie Gore New Zealand > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/ayrshire@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/ayrshire@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/ayrshire@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/ayrshire@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Dear Alan This is what I found on William McCaa. Bruce is right about Thomasina's death and she doesn’t appear to have married again as it is only register under McCaa and McGhie https://cumnocksoldiers.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/william-mccaa.html <https://cumnocksoldiers.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/william-mccaa.html> Kind regards Kay secretary, Cumnock History group http://www.cumnockhistorygroup.org <http://www.cumnockhistorygroup.org/> Cumnock History Group Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/CumnockHistoryGroup/ <https://www.facebook.com/CumnockHistoryGroup/> Cumnock Family History group https://www.facebook.com/groups/cumnockfamilyhistory/ <https://www.facebook.com/groups/cumnockfamilyhistory/> Cumnock Connections tree http://cumnockconnections.tribalpages.com <http://cumnockconnections.tribalpages.com/> > On 20 May 2018, at 05:08, Alan Ritchie <alan.ritchie18@gmail.com> wrote: > > Looking for any information on Thomasina Mcghie. She married William MCCAA > on the 9th aug 1915, William went to the war just after they got married > to not return having died at sea on his return home. Thomasina was born at > Anworth which I presume is in Cumnock. Thomasina was born in1880 the > daughter of James McGhie and Willie ________. William was the son of > William McCaa and Elizabeth Ritchie. I am trying to find if Thomasina > remarried as she is not buried with her husband William. > Regards Alan Ritchie Gore New Zealand > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/ayrshire@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/ayrshire@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi Alan, Anworth is a parish in the county of Kirkcudbrightshire. Perhaps you made a typo with her year of birth, as Scotlandspeople shows her being born in 1888. Scotlandspeople also shows that she died in 1953, age 64, which suggests that in that year, she died prior to the anniversary of her birth. She died in the parish of Dalbeattie, in the county of Kirkcudbrightshire. Regards, Bruce On Sun, May 20, 2018 at 2:08 PM, Alan Ritchie <alan.ritchie18@gmail.com> wrote: > Looking for any information on Thomasina Mcghie. She married William MCCAA > on the 9th aug 1915, William went to the war just after they got married > to not return having died at sea on his return home. Thomasina was born at > Anworth which I presume is in Cumnock. Thomasina was born in1880 the > daughter of James McGhie and Willie ________. William was the son of > William McCaa and Elizabeth Ritchie. I am trying to find if Thomasina > remarried as she is not buried with her husband William. > Regards Alan Ritchie Gore New Zealand >

Looking for any information on Thomasina Mcghie. She married William MCCAA on the 9th aug 1915, William went to the war just after they got married to not return having died at sea on his return home. Thomasina was born at Anworth which I presume is in Cumnock. Thomasina was born in1880 the daughter of James McGhie and Willie ________. William was the son of William McCaa and Elizabeth Ritchie. I am trying to find if Thomasina remarried as she is not buried with her husband William. Regards Alan Ritchie Gore New Zealand

A list of some 1600’s Boyd Sea Captains in Ireland. I was recently sent his list of Boyd Sea Captains from one of the various publications written by David Dobson. “John Boyd, master of the Mary of Coleraine, at the port of Glasgow, 12 August 1670 (NAS.E 72.1 2.14) VOL 3 John Boyd, master of the, Two brothers of Coleraine, at the port of Irvine, 11 September 1689 (NAS.E 72. 12.14) VOL 3 John Boyd, Master of the Elizabeth of Belfast, at the port of Ayr 2 April 1690 (NAS.E72.3. 24) VOL 3 John Boyd, merchant of the Mayflower of Donaghadie at Port Patrick 27th July 1682 (NAS.E 72.2 0.7) John Boyd, Master of the Mayflower of Dublin, at Port Dublin, in October 1689; Master of the William of Belfast, a 100 ton pink from Belfast with 30 passengers to Virginia in 1699. (NAS.E 72.19.15) (PRO. COS5. 1441) Robert Boyd, Master of the Margaret of Larne, from Irvine to Ireland 15 August 1681.(NAS.E72.1 2.5) Captain William Boyd, Master of the Elizabeth of Coleraine from Londonderry to Saltcoats, Ayrshire, and return in 1689. (RPCS)” Is anyone researching any of these people? And can they be linked to any Boyd families? It is somewhat difficult to determine if there are five John Boyd’s or a single person from this list or a number in between. Thank you Mike Boyd Chairman Historical Committee, HBS

OK Rottenyard is in New Cumnock not Old Cumnock Beatrix is Beatrix Barrie/Barry also recorded as Beatie and Betty and possibly also Bridget. The two previously paid for records show Rottenyard GEMMELL WILLIAM WILLIAM GEMMELL/BETTY BARRIE FR43 (FR43) M 06/01/1741 608/ 10 73 New Cumnock View image (paid) <https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/view-image/nrs_opr_records/2662420?image=73> GEMMELL WILLIAM WILLIAM GEMMELL/BETTY BARRIE FR48 (FR48) M 09/05/1746 608/ 10 82 New Cumnock Buy credits <https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/buy-credits?back_search=true> GEMMELL ROBERT WILLIAM GEMMELL/BETTY BARRIE FR51 (FR51) M 10/06/1750 608/ 10 89 New Cumnock Buy credits <https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/buy-credits?back_search=true> GEMMELL JOHN WILLIAM GEMMELL/BEATRIX BARRIE FR40 (FR40) M 17/01/1738 608/ 10 67 New Cumnock View image (paid) <https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/view-image/nrs_opr_records/2662289?image=67> GEMMELL ROBERT WILLIAM GEMMELL/BETTY BARRIE FR42 (FR42) M 02/09/1739 608/ 10 70 New Cumnock Buy credits <https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/buy-credits?back_search=true> GEMMELL MARY WILLIAM GEMMELL/BEATTIE BARRIE FR39 (FR39) F 13/02/1737 608/ 10 65 New Cumnock also maybe they moved to Old Cumnock GEMMELL BRIDGET WILLIAM GEMMELL/BRIDGET BARRY FR77 (FR77) F 26/10/1755 610/ 10 129 Old Cumnock I didn’t get the digest so can’t reply to the Gibson/Dick query though I can see it online. Chris feel free to email me direct. Kay > On 29 Apr 2018, at 08:57, ayrshire-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > Send AYRSHIRE mailing list submissions to > ayrshire@rootsweb.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or > body 'help' to > ayrshire-request@rootsweb.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > ayrshire-owner@rootsweb.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of AYRSHIRE digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: ROTTENYARD area, Old Cumnock in 1740 (ruth.enns@shaw.ca) > 2. Fw: Re: ROTTENYARD area, Old Cumnock in 1740 (ruth.enns@shaw.ca) > 3. Re: ROTTENYARD area, Old Cumnock in 1740 (Kay McMeekin) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2018 23:48:18 -0700 > From: <ruth.enns@shaw.ca> > Subject: [AYR] Re: ROTTENYARD area, Old Cumnock in 1740 > To: <ayrshire@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <21CD923CB2AB44B7833C4769DFB3BD07@RuthPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > I locked on GOOGLE & it IS a farm. K1i8 4PW Ayrshire! > > More snooping around may be needed. > > R > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Nicholas Wilson > Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 2:56 PM > To: Ayrshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AYR] ROTTENYARD area, Old Cumnock in 1740 > > Hello, > > I have a 4 x great grandmother, Mary Gemmell born to William and Beatrix > Gemmell at Rottenyard. Can anyone with a knowledge of the Cumnock area tell > me something more of this address. I have assumed it was a farm. > > Thanks, > > Nick > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/ayrshire@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/ayrshire@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2018 00:21:14 -0700 > From: <ruth.enns@shaw.ca> > Subject: [AYR] Fw: Re: ROTTENYARD area, Old Cumnock in 1740 > To: <AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <09AC2B3D854240D58828774B65CF8ADA@RuthPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=response > > > > > To: ayrshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AYR] Re: ROTTENYARD area, Old Cumnock in 1740 > > I locked on GOOGLE & it IS a farm. K1i8 4PW Ayrshire! > > More snooping around may be needed. > > R > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Nicholas Wilson > Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 2:56 PM > To: Ayrshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AYR] ROTTENYARD area, Old Cumnock in 1740 > > Hello, > > I have a 4 x great grandmother, Mary Gemmell born to William and Beatrix > Gemmell at Rottenyard. Can anyone with a knowledge of the Cumnock area tell > me something more of this address. I have assumed it was a farm. > > Thanks, > > Nick > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/ayrshire@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/ayrshire@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/ayrshire@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/ayrshire@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2018 08:57:14 +0100 > From: Kay McMeekin <kaymcmeekin@gmail.com> > Subject: [AYR] Re: ROTTENYARD area, Old Cumnock in 1740 > To: ayrshire@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <6319D82C-466F-457F-8542-4CF6B715819D@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hello Nick > > Yes it is a farm SE of Cumnock. See it here > > http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/# <http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#> > > Use the slider to see what the it looks like now. > > Kind regards > Kay McMeekin > Secretary, Cumnock History Group > cumnockhistorygroup.org <http://cumnockhistorygroup.org/> > > Cumnock Connections tree > http://cumnockconnections.tribalpages.com <http://cumnockconnections.tribalpages.com/> > > > >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2018 14:56:30 -0700 >> From: Nicholas Wilson <wilsonnicholas90@gmail.com> >> Subject: [AYR] ROTTENYARD area, Old Cumnock in 1740 >> To: Ayrshire@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: <61400A2A-19A0-48F7-90EC-7670DFAFF6F0@gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> Hello, >> >> I have a 4 x great grandmother, Mary Gemmell born to William and Beatrix Gemmell at Rottenyard. Can anyone with a knowledge of the Cumnock area tell me something more of this address. I have assumed it was a farm. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Nick >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Subject: Digest Footer >> >> To contact the %(real_name)s list administrator, send an email to >> %(real_name)s-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >> To post a message to the AYRSHIRE mailing list -- ayrshire@rootsweb.com, send an email to %(real_name)s@rootsweb.com. >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to %(real_name)s-request@%(host_name)s >> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >> email with no additional text. >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> End of AYRSHIRE Digest, Vol 13, Issue 41 >> **************************************** > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > To contact the %(real_name)s list administrator, send an email to > %(real_name)s-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the AYRSHIRE mailing list -- ayrshire@rootsweb.com, send an email to %(real_name)s@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to %(real_name)s-request@%(host_name)s > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > ------------------------------ > > End of AYRSHIRE Digest, Vol 13, Issue 42 > ****************************************

Hi Kay, Thank you for the links to the History group and the Cumnock connections tree. I have just been to the tree and found a photo of Helen Gibson nee Dicks family. Helen is the sister of my Great Grandmother Deborah Dick who married George Kerr and they went to Australia then came and settled in NZ after several years. It's nearly midnight here, not the wisest of times to be checking emails especially when one finds such a gem as a photo. I will endeavour to add what info I have on my Kerr, Dick, Begg and other families to the site hopefully in the next couple of days or should I send you an email directly Kay? I have marriage records and a death record and births and census's. Chris in NZ -----Original Message----- From: Kay McMeekin [mailto:kaymcmeekin@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, 29 April 2018 7:57 PM To: ayrshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [AYR] Re: ROTTENYARD area, Old Cumnock in 1740 Hello Nick Yes it is a farm SE of Cumnock. See it here http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/# <http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#> Use the slider to see what the it looks like now. Kind regards Kay McMeekin Secretary, Cumnock History Group cumnockhistorygroup.org <http://cumnockhistorygroup.org/> Cumnock Connections tree http://cumnockconnections.tribalpages.com

Hello Nick Yes it is a farm SE of Cumnock. See it here http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/# <http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#> Use the slider to see what the it looks like now. Kind regards Kay McMeekin Secretary, Cumnock History Group cumnockhistorygroup.org <http://cumnockhistorygroup.org/> Cumnock Connections tree http://cumnockconnections.tribalpages.com <http://cumnockconnections.tribalpages.com/> > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2018 14:56:30 -0700 > From: Nicholas Wilson <wilsonnicholas90@gmail.com> > Subject: [AYR] ROTTENYARD area, Old Cumnock in 1740 > To: Ayrshire@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <61400A2A-19A0-48F7-90EC-7670DFAFF6F0@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hello, > > I have a 4 x great grandmother, Mary Gemmell born to William and Beatrix Gemmell at Rottenyard. Can anyone with a knowledge of the Cumnock area tell me something more of this address. I have assumed it was a farm. > > Thanks, > > Nick > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > To contact the %(real_name)s list administrator, send an email to > %(real_name)s-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the AYRSHIRE mailing list -- ayrshire@rootsweb.com, send an email to %(real_name)s@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to %(real_name)s-request@%(host_name)s > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > ------------------------------ > > End of AYRSHIRE Digest, Vol 13, Issue 41 > ****************************************

To: ayrshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [AYR] Re: ROTTENYARD area, Old Cumnock in 1740 I locked on GOOGLE & it IS a farm. K1i8 4PW Ayrshire! More snooping around may be needed. R -----Original Message----- From: Nicholas Wilson Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 2:56 PM To: Ayrshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [AYR] ROTTENYARD area, Old Cumnock in 1740 Hello, I have a 4 x great grandmother, Mary Gemmell born to William and Beatrix Gemmell at Rottenyard. Can anyone with a knowledge of the Cumnock area tell me something more of this address. I have assumed it was a farm. Thanks, Nick _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/ayrshire@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/ayrshire@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/ayrshire@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/ayrshire@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

I locked on GOOGLE & it IS a farm. K1i8 4PW Ayrshire! More snooping around may be needed. R -----Original Message----- From: Nicholas Wilson Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 2:56 PM To: Ayrshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [AYR] ROTTENYARD area, Old Cumnock in 1740 Hello, I have a 4 x great grandmother, Mary Gemmell born to William and Beatrix Gemmell at Rottenyard. Can anyone with a knowledge of the Cumnock area tell me something more of this address. I have assumed it was a farm. Thanks, Nick _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/ayrshire@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/ayrshire@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hello, I have a 4 x great grandmother, Mary Gemmell born to William and Beatrix Gemmell at Rottenyard. Can anyone with a knowledge of the Cumnock area tell me something more of this address. I have assumed it was a farm. Thanks, Nick

Who were held hostage with Sir Thomas Boyd (7th Chief of Boyd) in 1423 for the release of King James I? According to The Scots Peerage, ed Sir James Balfour Paul, Volume V, 1908, pp 140-141 it says:- "THOMAS BOYD of Kilmarnock, who occurs as a witness at Edinburgh 29 March 1422. (Reg. Mag. Sig., 2 October 1427.) He was a hostage for the ransom of King James, having a safe-conduct till 30 April to go to Durham, 3 February 1423-24 (Cal. Doc. Scot., iv 942) and was delivered to the English envoys 28 March following. His revenue at this time was estimated at 500 merks. (Ibid., iv 952) He was confined in Dover Castle, being sent there from Fotheringay 21 May 1424. (Ibid., 960) By a warrant of 28 February 1424-25 he was sent for exchange to Durham, (Ibid., 973) being delivered at York Castle 16 June, (Ibid., 981) and had leave to return to Scotland till Martinmas, 16 July 1425. …” Does anyone have access to the list of Scottish Nobles who were held by England as part of King James I’s reason? Or do you know of any source that might provide such information when I visit Glasgow and Edinburgh in early June 2019? If I recall, some information that I saw some years ago, Sir Thomas revenue of 500 merks was one of the wealthiest amongst the nobles of that period. I am wanting to see if some of these Barons did not have their children marry to each other’s children, as result of their time in captivity together and after they came home to Scotland over the next decade or two. It seems that the Boyds had some linkage to the Maxwell’s, as the first Lord Boyd, Robert Boyd, married Mariota (or Janet), daughter of Sir John Maxwell of Calderwood – which I estimate would have been in the 1440’s. I just realised that I do not even know the total amount of the King’s ramson, to get some idea of the number of Barons that might have been involved in this hostages situation. Thank you for your assistance. Mike Boyd Chairman Historical Committee, HBS [# 36]

Dave, Have you tried the Carnegie Library in Ayr? Regards, Debbie On 19 April 2018 at 21:55, David Fells <davidfells66@gmail.com> wrote: > Anyone know where I can get a picture of the above school? > > The date I am looking for is late 1870s - early 1880s. > > Thanks > > Dave > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb > Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: https://lists.rootsweb. > ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ > > To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:ayrshire-leave@rootsweb.com > ?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > View the archives for this list at: https://lists.rootsweb. > ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/ayrshire@rootsweb.com/ > > Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more information. > Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > -- Debbie Rea

Anyone know where I can get a picture of the above school? The date I am looking for is late 1870s - early 1880s. Thanks Dave

Nicholas: To "Subscribe" see instructions at the top of the List. On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 3:27 PM, <ayrshire-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Send AYRSHIRE mailing list submissions to > ayrshire@rootsweb.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or > body 'help' to > ayrshire-request@rootsweb.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > ayrshire-owner@rootsweb.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of AYRSHIRE digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. subscribe (Nicholas Wilson) > 2. subscribe (Nicholas Wilson) > 3. Re: GEORGE DALRYMPLE, born c.1740, of Old Cumnock (Mike Boyd) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2018 10:27:50 -0700 > From: Nicholas Wilson <wilsonnicholas90@gmail.com> > Subject: [AYR] subscribe > To: Ayrshire-l@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <D46BB634-CCAD-4659-BC34-19D7E05EAD36@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > subscribe > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2018 10:30:39 -0700 > From: Nicholas Wilson <wilsonnicholas90@gmail.com> > Subject: [AYR] subscribe > To: Ayrshire@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <2A26BB07-D44F-4909-9173-F7CA7CBE0921@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > subscribe > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2018 08:27:35 +1000 > From: Mike Boyd <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> > Subject: [AYR] Re: GEORGE DALRYMPLE, born c.1740, of Old Cumnock > To: <ayrshire@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <030680A3B3A14FD1AF2CB6845E966D7E@MichaelPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; > reply-type=original > > Nick > > As you George Dalrmple is not landed that makes it a little harder and you > can't look at George Robertson's books or James Patterson's book outlining > landed Ayrshire families. > > 1. For the birth of the six children at Dumfries House, have you looked > at the Old Parish Register records? Either at Scotlandspeople website or > else where? And does that tell you if he was still living at Dumfries > House? > > 2. I think a few years ago, I saw a TV program saying that Prince > Charles's Prices Trust had restored Dumfries House into a working tourist > site and to help un-employed youth in the area. > > So I am not sure if you need to search for them on google, to see if they > have any "records" [Although you might be able to tell then who the cook > was > for a period], or contact the Burns Centre Local Studies Library in > Kilmarnock (sorry do not have an Email address) to see if they have any > suitable records for this period of Dumfries House or if he became an > Innkeeper at Old Cumnock. > > 3. For the Edinburgh side, I assume that you have a lot on then after > they moved there. But being an innkeeper or vintner, he may have had to > join "The Guild". So would it be worth contacting the Edinburgh City > Library at King George IV Bridge Street to see if they might list him and > give you a pointer as to when he died, and was buried, etc. > > Mike Boyd > Brisbane, Aust > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Nicholas Wilson > Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 5:23 AM > To: ayrshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AYR] GEORGE DALRYMPLE, born c.1740, of Old Cumnock > > Hello, > > I am new to list and in search of information on the above named 4 x great > grandfather. > > So far all I know is George married MARY GEMMEL in Old Cumnock on > October > 25th 1763 at which time he was shown as being the cook at the newly built > Dumfries House. Two years later when their first child was born he was > still > shown in the same position. > > George and Mary had seven children. The first six including twins, George > and John, were born in Old Cumnock and their last, Robert, after they had > moved to Edinburgh. > > After moving to Edinburgh George’s employment is shown as that of vintner > though I have not been able to establish if he was also in the same > business > before leaving Old Cumnock. > > I have assumed he left Dumfries House and his job as cook, when his > family > started to grow and his accommodation was found inadequate for raising a > family. After this time he is merely shown in the records as an > ‘indweller’. > > I do not have a record of his date of birth but would estimate it was > c.1740, nor his date of death. > > My Dalrymple grandmother never outrightly claimed kinship to the > illustrious > and titled line but would occasionally pun that if there was a > connection, > it would have been by the ‘back-STAIRs’, i.e. illegitimate. Having only > very recently discovered my ancestor’s connection as a servant in one of > the Stair family homes, I am beginning to believe she may have been right! > > Thanks for any help you can give me in finding out more of this my first > known Dalrymple ancestor. Our own particular line is now extinct because > my > great uncle Henry Dalrymple, who ended his days in the New Hebrides as a > remittance man, is not known to have had any children by his native wife, > Puna > > Nick > > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb > Mailing Lists. 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Hi Nick, The DALRYMPLE who had the current Dumfries House built was William, 4th Earl of Stair. He inherited the title of Earl of Dumfries <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_of_Dumfries> in 1742, on the death of his mother Penelope Crichton, 4th Countess of Dumfries, and became William DALRYMPLE-CRIGHTON , 5th Earl of Dumfries, 4th Earl of Stair. When he died, 27 July 1768, the titles separated, the Earldom of Dumfries passing to his nephew Patrick McDOUALL of Freuch, and the Earldom of Stair to his cousin John DALRYMPLE. Patrick McDOUALL of Freuch inherited from his mother, Lady Elizabeth DALRYMPLE-CRIGHTON, and on doing so, adopted the title Patrick McDOUALL-CRIGHTON, 6th Earl of Dumfries. Rather convoluted, and that continued, with the Earldom of Dumfries passing to Marques of Bute, but perhaps the change in ownership in 1768 may have played a part in your George DALRYMPLE's move from Dumfries House. Regards, Bruce McDowall On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 5:23 AM, Nicholas Wilson <wilsonnicholas90@gmail.com > wrote: > Hello, > > I am new to list and in search of information on the above named 4 x great > grandfather. > > So far all I know is George married MARY GEMMEL in Old Cumnock on > October 25th 1763 at which time he was shown as being the cook at the newly > built Dumfries House. Two years later when their first child was born he > was still shown in the same position. > > George and Mary had seven children. The first six including twins, George > and John, were born in Old Cumnock and their last, Robert, after they had > moved to Edinburgh. > > After moving to Edinburgh George’s employment is shown as that of vintner > though I have not been able to establish if he was also in the same > business before leaving Old Cumnock. > > I have assumed he left Dumfries House and his job as cook, when his > family started to grow and his accommodation was found inadequate for > raising a family. After this time he is merely shown in the records as an > ‘indweller’. > > I do not have a record of his date of birth but would estimate it was > c.1740, nor his date of death. > > My Dalrymple grandmother never outrightly claimed kinship to the > illustrious and titled line but would occasionally pun that if there was a > connection, it would have been by the ‘back-STAIRs’, i.e. illegitimate. > Having only very recently discovered my ancestor’s connection as a > servant in one of the Stair family homes, I am beginning to believe she > may have been right! > > Thanks for any help you can give me in finding out more of this my first > known Dalrymple ancestor. Our own particular line is now extinct because > my great uncle Henry Dalrymple, who ended his days in the New Hebrides as a > remittance man, is not known to have had any children by his native wife, > Puna > > Nick >

Nick If that does not work, the Burn Centre in Kilmarnock, has the MI's done by the un-employed in the 1980's, with both a map and the inscription. So it might give you his parents and or some more of his own children who died young. Mike Boyd -----Original Message----- From: Mary Paton Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 1:14 PM To: Aryshire roots Subject: [AYR] Re: GEORGE DALRYMPLE, born c.1740, of Old Cumnock Hello Nick, I too have an ancestor born in Cumnock 1740 (but amazingly he was only my 3xGreat, having produced my gg-grandfather when he was over 60. My information about him came from family memory, a newspaper cutting, the old parish records on www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk and also a gravestone which is still visible in Auchinleck and tells us a lot. You can get lists of Memorial Inscriptions for some Ayrshire graveyards and I suggest you google Cumnock Memorial Inscriptions. One site looks limited but if you catch the other when it is willing to respond it possibly has the whole list for the old cemetery. Best regards, Mary

Hello Nick, I too have an ancestor born in Cumnock 1740 (but amazingly he was only my 3xGreat, having produced my gg-grandfather when he was over 60. My information about him came from family memory, a newspaper cutting, the old parish records on www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk and also a gravestone which is still visible in Auchinleck and tells us a lot. You can get lists of Memorial Inscriptions for some Ayrshire graveyards and I suggest you google Cumnock Memorial Inscriptions. One site looks limited but if you catch the other when it is willing to respond it possibly has the whole list for the old cemetery. Best regards, Mary On 12 April 2018 at 06:27, Mike Boyd <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> wrote: > Nick > > As you George Dalrmple is not landed that makes it a little harder and you > can't look at George Robertson's books or James Patterson's book outlining > landed Ayrshire families. > > 1. For the birth of the six children at Dumfries House, have you looked > at the Old Parish Register records? Either at Scotlandspeople website or > else where? And does that tell you if he was still living at Dumfries > House? > > 2. I think a few years ago, I saw a TV program saying that Prince > Charles's Prices Trust had restored Dumfries House into a working tourist > site and to help un-employed youth in the area. > > So I am not sure if you need to search for them on google, to see if they > have any "records" [Although you might be able to tell then who the cook > was for a period], or contact the Burns Centre Local Studies Library in > Kilmarnock (sorry do not have an Email address) to see if they have any > suitable records for this period of Dumfries House or if he became an > Innkeeper at Old Cumnock. > > 3. For the Edinburgh side, I assume that you have a lot on then after > they moved there. But being an innkeeper or vintner, he may have had to > join "The Guild". So would it be worth contacting the Edinburgh City > Library at King George IV Bridge Street to see if they might list him and > give you a pointer as to when he died, and was buried, etc. > > Mike Boyd > Brisbane, Aust > > > > > -----Original Message----- From: Nicholas Wilson > Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 5:23 AM > To: ayrshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AYR] GEORGE DALRYMPLE, born c.1740, of Old Cumnock > > > Hello, > > I am new to list and in search of information on the above named 4 x great > grandfather. > > So far all I know is George married MARY GEMMEL in Old Cumnock on > October 25th 1763 at which time he was shown as being the cook at the newly > built Dumfries House. Two years later when their first child was born he > was still shown in the same position. > > George and Mary had seven children. The first six including twins, George > and John, were born in Old Cumnock and their last, Robert, after they had > moved to Edinburgh. > > After moving to Edinburgh George’s employment is shown as that of vintner > though I have not been able to establish if he was also in the same > business before leaving Old Cumnock. > > I have assumed he left Dumfries House and his job as cook, when his > family started to grow and his accommodation was found inadequate for > raising a family. After this time he is merely shown in the records as an > ‘indweller’. > > I do not have a record of his date of birth but would estimate it was > c.1740, nor his date of death. > > My Dalrymple grandmother never outrightly claimed kinship to the > illustrious and titled line but would occasionally pun that if there was a > connection, it would have been by the ‘back-STAIRs’, i.e. illegitimate. > Having only very recently discovered my ancestor’s connection as a > servant in one of the Stair family homes, I am beginning to believe she > may have been right! > > Thanks for any help you can give me in finding out more of this my first > known Dalrymple ancestor. Our own particular line is now extinct because > my great uncle Henry Dalrymple, who ended his days in the New Hebrides as a > remittance man, is not known to have had any children by his native wife, > Puna > > Nick > > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb > Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ > > To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:ayrshire-leave@rootsweb.com > ?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > View the archives for this list at: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestr > y.com/hyperkitty/list/ayrshire@rootsweb.com/ > > Your privacy is important to us. 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