Unfortunately, the archives are currently down for maintenance, and likely to be so for a few weeks. Anyone who has been using the archives will know that it was very slow. Rootsweb tech team intend to reprogram the software to overcome this and a couple of other glitches. Bruce On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 7:50 PM, Mary Paton <em.paton@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Mike, > I remember that Jim Bundy put a whole lot of Kilmarnock stuff on the > Ayrshire List a few years ago. I don't know whether OPRs were included > but > they may well have been. It would be worth checking. > Cheers, > Mary >
Hi Mike, I remember that Jim Bundy put a whole lot of Kilmarnock stuff on the Ayrshire List a few years ago. I don't know whether OPRs were included but they may well have been. It would be worth checking. Cheers, Mary > >
List I have just got a query about an Elizaabeth Boyd born 1667 at Kilmarnock. This entry is not shown in the 1994 IGI for the UK, so does any one have the Kilmarnock OPR records or access to them to see if they can find this entry please. She has married a Mr Bankhead – assume about 1687 – and had a son James Bankhead – no details on him as yet. I will turn this two generation tree into a Family Chapter in the current Volume on Boyd families in Ayrshire, so that this family can be built upon in future. Mike Boyd Brisbaen, aust.
Rick There were Patten families north of Fenwick, as one or two were buried in Fenwick Churchyard and were covenanters during the late 1600's, if I recall correctly. Last week someone posted Alistair Dunlop's Email. So it might be worth running those names past him? Your three location all had Boyd families, so I will forward your message to the Boyd net list to see if it rings any bells. Mike Boyd Brisbane, Aust. -----Original Message----- From: rjhanna@hickorytech.net Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 7:02 AM To: ayrshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [AYR] Re: HANNAY / HANNA Hi Linda, I am working on the John Hannay family of Dailly. Two of his children, David, 1726 and Margret, 1729 both moved to county Monaghan, NI in about 1750. The following relates to this generation: David was born in Scotland, Dailly parish Ayrshire, in 1727. He married Nancy [Sara] Couper about 1750. Sara was born in Scotland in 1727. Soon after their marriage, they moved from Scotland to Ireland and settled in Ballybay, County Monaghan.[1] David dropped the "y" from Hanny at that time and Sarah changed her last name from Couper to Cooper (OPR and Cahan's session book). David was an elder in Reverend Thomas Clark's church at Cahans near Ballybay. His home at this time was in Ballagh, Parish of Drumsnatt, Monaghan. [4] According to the baptismal record of his son John 2/1, David was a weaver.[5] On the 10th of May 1764, David and his family sailed from Newry with Clark and 300 others to establish a new home for the congregation in Colonial America. An article in the August 6th, 1764, _New York Gazette_,[6] states: _ "Last week in the Ship John, from Newry, Ireland, Luke Kiersted, master, there arrived about three hundred passengers, a hundred and forty of whom, together with the Rev. Dr. Clarke, embarked the 30th ult., with their stores, farming and manufacturing utensils, in two sloops, for Albany, from whence they are to proceed to the lands near Lake George, which were lately surveyed for their accommodation, as their principal view is to carry on the linen and hempen manufacture to which they were brought up." _ _ _Tradition also states that David and family came to Colonies with two of his brothers, John and Robert Hanna. This has not been verified. One report states that David was the brother of Thomas Hanna who died in Bucks County, Pennsylvania in 1763; whereas, another letter states that he was a near relative of the same Thomas and Elizabeth Henderson Hanna of Bucks County. Much evidence indicates that David was the brother of Thomas. The compiler's opinion leans in this direction.[7] Margaret Hanna, David's sister, married James Patten about 1750 in Scotland. James and Margaret moved to County Monaghan shortly thereafter. This family is covered in detail in Jennie M. Patten's _History of the Somonauk Presbyterian Church_, a copy of which is in the Library of Congress.[8] The above relates tso the family prior to coming to America. I am particularly interested in the Hannay family of Dailly. This family never indicated who the mother was,when they married or which Hanna/Hannah/ Hannay branch they descended from. I've turned the OPRs inside out on excel, to no avail. Any help will be appreciated. Rick Hanna ------------------------- On 06/03/2018 02:28 PM, Linda Nordby wrote: > I have researched a few Hannah's in Ayrshire over the years. The families > have been named Hanna/Hanny/Hannah, mainly Stevenston and Kilwinning. > Maybe I can help? > > Linda > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Jun 3, 2018, at 11:20 AM, <rjhanna@hickorytech.net> >> <rjhanna@hickorytech.net> wrote: 1, Share information with anyone >> researching HANNAY / HANNA. 2. Contact anyone who specializes in Ayrshire >> research. 3. What does a citation such as FR319 in Old Parish Records >> refer to? I will appreciate any help. 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Rick You need to contact the Carnegie Library at Ayr Town to see if there is a family of this name in in both Robertson and Paterson's books of the 1800's. They are both done by Parish and landowners. You may need to look at in more than one Parish. Dailly will be one and Girvan might be the other. The Boyds of Penkill, who were south of the river were in one parish and the family of the second son of Trochrig, which was north of the river, might have been in Dailly, even though they were within about 2 miles of each other. However, if the son was a weaver, it may suggest that he was a younger son of one of the families generations and therefore a little more difficult to trace.. With Dr Clark's migration to northern NY, do you have any of the other families names? I have several Boyd families in Salem, Washington County, NY who seemed to have gone there in the mid 1700's and some also settled in the Albany, NY area. Mike Boyd -----Original Message----- From: rjhanna@hickorytech.net Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 7:07 AM To: ayrshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [AYR] Re: HANNAY / HANNA Mike- I am looking at Dailly (Carrick) late 1600-mid 1700. Any insight would be appreciated. Thanks for your suggestions. Rick Hanna On 06/03/2018 04:20 PM, Mike Boyd wrote: > Rick > Which of the three parts of Ayrshire are you looking at? > > You have East Ayrshire North Ayrshire and South Ayrshire Council area's > and > each has an local Studies Library at that can help you, > > If your Hannah owned land, they may be in George Robertson's books of the > 1820's or in James Patterson's books of the 1850's and 1860's. But you > will > nee dot contact the Library for the right area. > > Mike Boyd' > Brisbane > > -----Original Message----- > From: rjhanna@hickorytech.net > Sent: Monday, June 4, 2018 4:20 AM > To: ayrshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AYR] HANNAY / HANNA > > 1, Share information with anyone researching HANNAY / HANNA. > > 2. Contact anyone who specializes in Ayrshire research. > > 3. What does a citation such as FR319 in Old Parish Records refer to? > I will appreciate any help. > > Thanks, Rick Hanna > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref [1] > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/ayrshire@rootsweb.com/ > [2] > > Archives: > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/ayrshire@rootsweb.com/ > [3] > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY [4] Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 [5] > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref [1] > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/ayrshire@rootsweb.com/ > [2] > > Archives: > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/ayrshire@rootsweb.com/ > [3] > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY [4] Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 [5] > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community Links: ------ [1] http://bit.ly/rootswebpref [2] https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/ayrshire@rootsweb.com/ [3] https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/ayrshire@rootsweb.com/ [4] https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY [5] https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/ayrshire@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/ayrshire@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
Mike- I am looking at Dailly (Carrick) late 1600-mid 1700. Any insight would be appreciated. Thanks for your suggestions. Rick Hanna On 06/03/2018 04:20 PM, Mike Boyd wrote: > Rick > Which of the three parts of Ayrshire are you looking at? > > You have East Ayrshire North Ayrshire and South Ayrshire Council area's and > each has an local Studies Library at that can help you, > > If your Hannah owned land, they may be in George Robertson's books of the > 1820's or in James Patterson's books of the 1850's and 1860's. But you will > nee dot contact the Library for the right area. > > Mike Boyd' > Brisbane > > -----Original Message----- > From: rjhanna@hickorytech.net > Sent: Monday, June 4, 2018 4:20 AM > To: ayrshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AYR] HANNAY / HANNA > > 1, Share information with anyone researching HANNAY / HANNA. > > 2. Contact anyone who specializes in Ayrshire research. > > 3. What does a citation such as FR319 in Old Parish Records refer to? > I will appreciate any help. > > Thanks, Rick Hanna > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref [1] > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/ayrshire@rootsweb.com/ [2] > > Archives: > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/ayrshire@rootsweb.com/ [3] > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY [4] Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 [5] > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref [1] > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/ayrshire@rootsweb.com/ [2] > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/ayrshire@rootsweb.com/ [3] > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY [4] Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 [5] > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community Links: ------ [1] http://bit.ly/rootswebpref [2] https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/ayrshire@rootsweb.com/ [3] https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/ayrshire@rootsweb.com/ [4] https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY [5] https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9
Hi Linda, I am working on the John Hannay family of Dailly. Two of his children, David, 1726 and Margret, 1729 both moved to county Monaghan, NI in about 1750. The following relates to this generation: David was born in Scotland, Dailly parish Ayrshire, in 1727. He married Nancy [Sara] Couper about 1750. Sara was born in Scotland in 1727. Soon after their marriage, they moved from Scotland to Ireland and settled in Ballybay, County Monaghan.[1] David dropped the "y" from Hanny at that time and Sarah changed her last name from Couper to Cooper (OPR and Cahan's session book). David was an elder in Reverend Thomas Clark's church at Cahans near Ballybay. His home at this time was in Ballagh, Parish of Drumsnatt, Monaghan. [4] According to the baptismal record of his son John 2/1, David was a weaver.[5] On the 10th of May 1764, David and his family sailed from Newry with Clark and 300 others to establish a new home for the congregation in Colonial America. An article in the August 6th, 1764, _New York Gazette_,[6] states: _ "Last week in the Ship John, from Newry, Ireland, Luke Kiersted, master, there arrived about three hundred passengers, a hundred and forty of whom, together with the Rev. Dr. Clarke, embarked the 30th ult., with their stores, farming and manufacturing utensils, in two sloops, for Albany, from whence they are to proceed to the lands near Lake George, which were lately surveyed for their accommodation, as their principal view is to carry on the linen and hempen manufacture to which they were brought up." _ _ _Tradition also states that David and family came to Colonies with two of his brothers, John and Robert Hanna. This has not been verified. One report states that David was the brother of Thomas Hanna who died in Bucks County, Pennsylvania in 1763; whereas, another letter states that he was a near relative of the same Thomas and Elizabeth Henderson Hanna of Bucks County. Much evidence indicates that David was the brother of Thomas. The compiler's opinion leans in this direction.[7] Margaret Hanna, David's sister, married James Patten about 1750 in Scotland. James and Margaret moved to County Monaghan shortly thereafter. This family is covered in detail in Jennie M. Patten's _History of the Somonauk Presbyterian Church_, a copy of which is in the Library of Congress.[8] The above relates tso the family prior to coming to America. I am particularly interested in the Hannay family of Dailly. This family never indicated who the mother was,when they married or which Hanna/Hannah/ Hannay branch they descended from. I've turned the OPRs inside out on excel, to no avail. Any help will be appreciated. Rick Hanna ------------------------- On 06/03/2018 02:28 PM, Linda Nordby wrote: > I have researched a few Hannah's in Ayrshire over the years. The families have been named Hanna/Hanny/Hannah, mainly Stevenston and Kilwinning. > Maybe I can help? > > Linda > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Jun 3, 2018, at 11:20 AM, <rjhanna@hickorytech.net> <rjhanna@hickorytech.net> wrote: 1, Share information with anyone researching HANNAY / HANNA. 2. Contact anyone who specializes in Ayrshire research. 3. What does a citation such as FR319 in Old Parish Records refer to? I will appreciate any help. Thanks, Rick Hanna _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref [1] Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/ayrshire@rootsweb.com/ [2] Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/ayrshire@rootsweb.com/ [3] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY [4] Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 [5] RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref [1] > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/ayrshire@rootsweb.com/ [2] > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/ayrshire@rootsweb.com/ [3] > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY [4] Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 [5] > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community Links: ------ [1] http://bit.ly/rootswebpref [2] https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/ayrshire@rootsweb.com/ [3] https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/ayrshire@rootsweb.com/ [4] https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY [5] https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9
Hello and thanks Eliena. I have had no other offers so may take you up on yours. As it happens I may be in Scotland with my daughter in early October so may take up the hunt myself. I have a house for sale that should settle in mid July and have a heap of Emirates air points that expire at the end of July. The Scots in me won't let them lapse! Regards Murray -----Original Message----- From: Family Historian <familyhistorian@live.co.uk> Sent: Monday, 4 June 2018 7:57 PM To: ayrshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [AYR] Re: Thomas Reid...Craig Mill...River Doon Hello I would gladly have done it this morning but I moved away from Ayr 3 years ago. I’m sure there are plenty of others on the site who will oblige but if not, I’ll try the next time that I go north. Eliena Sent from my iPhone > On 4 Jun 2018, at 02:48, Murray Reid <mhhr@xtra.co.nz> wrote: > > Dear List, > > I have traversed this question before without success but with the > Northern summer upon us I thought I would seek help again. > > I claim Thomas (1667- 1733) as my 5 x Gt Grandfather. His headstone in > Alloway "Auld Kirk" describes him as "Dyster of Craig Mill" > > The site of the ruined mill is clearly shown on this (1843-1882) map. > > http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=16 > <http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=16&lat=55.4209&lon=-4.6280&layer > s=5&b= > 1> &lat=55.4209&lon=-4.6280&layers=5&b=1 (To see a satellite image > 1> slide > the large blue dot on the left.) > > There is an earlier (1752) map which doesn't show the word "ruin" I > suspect the mill, was still operating then possibly by a descendant of Thomas. > > Being remote from a road and in a wooded area I think it entirely > possible that remains of the mill might still exist. > > My wish is that someone living in the area might be willing to go for > a hike to the site to test my theory. > > The going would seem easy across pasture and no more than 600m from > vehicle access. > > It would seem to me that the land is owned by the property "Doonside" > off the B7024 highway. > > I would also be interested in the history of the nearby "Craig Mill Mount". > Was it a quarry/metal source? > > I ask that because just upstream from the Mill ruins there appears to > be a weir, that is likely manmade and the source of water for the mill. > > Can anybody help please? > > I would like to be there next weekend but I am 18000 km and many > dollars away. > > Another piece of useless fantasy is that a grandson (b1744) of Thomas > is very possibly "Tam" of "Tam o Shanter" fame. > > Regards > > Murray Reid > > Tuakau > > NZ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/ayrshire@rootsweb. > com/ > > Archives: > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/ayrshire@rootsweb. > com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/ayrshire@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/ayrshire@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
Yes, Hanna, Hannah and Hannay. These are variants names of the same family. I also have one Davidson. Regards, Rick On 06/03/2018 01:31 PM, Bill Davidson wrote: > Are you also covering HANNAH? > > On Jun 3, 2018, at 14:20, <rjhanna@hickorytech.net> <rjhanna@hickorytech.net> wrote: > > 1, Share information with anyone researching HANNAY / HANNA. > > 2. Contact anyone who specializes in Ayrshire research. > > 3. What does a citation such as FR319 in Old Parish Records refer to? > I will appreciate any help. > > Thanks, Rick Hanna > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref [1] > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/ayrshire@rootsweb.com/ [2] > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/ayrshire@rootsweb.com/ [3] > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY [4] Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 [5] > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref [1] > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/ayrshire@rootsweb.com/ [2] > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/ayrshire@rootsweb.com/ [3] > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY [4] Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 [5] > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community Links: ------ [1] http://bit.ly/rootswebpref [2] https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/ayrshire@rootsweb.com/ [3] https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/ayrshire@rootsweb.com/ [4] https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY [5] https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9
-----Original Message----- From: "ayrshire-request@rootsweb.com" <ayrshire-request@rootsweb.com> Sent: 03/06/2018 10:28 To: "ayrshire@rootsweb.com" <ayrshire@rootsweb.com> Subject: AYRSHIRE Digest, Vol 13, Issue 50 Send AYRSHIRE mailing list submissions to ayrshire@rootsweb.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ayrshire-request@rootsweb.com You can reach the person managing the list at ayrshire-owner@rootsweb.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of AYRSHIRE digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: AYRSHIRE Digest, Vol 13, Issue 11 (Deborah Rea) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2018 10:27:44 +0100 From: Deborah Rea <deborah.rea94@gmail.com> Subject: [AYR] Re: AYRSHIRE Digest, Vol 13, Issue 11 To: Charmaine Andresen <wasu66nz@yahoo.co.nz>, "AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com" <ayrshire@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <CAJneOLw0dxq5E-E_ZNnGp2jJVgMJPqnO9Z=8r3WXFb3zUsd2qg@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi Charmaine, If you email me directly I'll given you his contact details - deborah.rea94@gmail.com. Regards Debbie Rea On Sun, 3 Jun 2018, 09:55 Charmaine Andresen via AYRSHIRE, < ayrshire@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Hello, I am hoping someone knows Alistair Dunlop who was on this mailing > list some time ago. He was a Fenwick local as I remember him telling me. > Hoping to get back in contact with him asap.Thanks,Charmaine Andresen. > On Thursday, 18 January 2018 09:00:27 PM NZDT, > ayrshire-request@rootsweb.com <ayrshire-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Send AYRSHIRE mailing list submissions to > ayrshire@rootsweb.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists9.rootsweb.ancestry.com/mailman/listinfo/ayrshire > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > ayrshire-request@rootsweb.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > ayrshire-owner@rootsweb.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of AYRSHIRE digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Fw: Hugh Bankhead Grisel Muir (Mike Boyd) > 2. Re: Fw: Hugh Bankhead Grisel Muir (Linda) > 3. Wm & Grizzel MUIT (ruth.enns@shaw.ca) > 4. Re: Wm & Grizzel MUIT (ruth.enns@shaw.ca) > 5. Re: Fw: Hugh Bankhead Grisel Muir (Mike Boyd) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 06:36:06 +1000 > From: Mike Boyd <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> > To: <AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [AYR] Fw: Hugh Bankhead Grisel Muir > Message-ID: <2EC93F1038974F82AB9EA089F1F54D2E@MichaelPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=response > > sORRY DID NOT SEND THIS TO THE WHOLE LIST. > > Perhaps others might have other sources that can help Inez? > > Mike boyd > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Boyd > Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 10:22 PM > To: inezmayall@optusnet.com.au > Subject: Re: [AYR] Hugh Bankhead Grisel Muir > > Inez > I assume that your Grisel Muir is not one of the Muir's of Rowallan Castle > between Fenwick and Kilmaurs. > > If I do recall from either George Robertson book of the 1820's or James > Paterson's book of the 1850's and 1860's, there was at least one Muir > family > in Carrick, Ayrshire (what is now called South Ayrshire). But I can't > recall the location as I was searching for Boyd families. > > So it might be worth contacting the South Ayrshire Local Studies Library in > Ayr (town) to see if they have any information on either the families of > Bankhead and Muir. > > That will only work if they have a farm. So do you know Hugh's occupation > etc? > > The other area to look at is the "Scotlandpeople" website that gives the > Old > Parish Register's. It might be worth going to your local Library or Family > History/Genealogical Society to get some assistance in finding your way > through this website. I would start with the two children you know to see > what details it might provide? For example, it might tell you that William > is the 10th or 15th child and his father's occupation and other items that > can help you i your research. So you might be able to work out when they > married and look at the records for that period. > > I think that Bankhead is also a Kilmarnock/Fenwick name as well, so it > might > be worth looking in the Archives for this list. (I assume that the new > List > master will be able to provide you with advise on how to do that.) > > If you use Dr google to find websites that might list them - be "very > careful" about any trees on their website. (I am in the process of writing > a letter to a query and the website said that a 12 months old girl had a > son. [I know I went to a boys boarding high school, and we had a settled > life - but even I know that 12 month girls can't have children, even with > Scottish medicine.] ) So use your good Australian common sense when you > are > looking at these trees. They might lead you to contacts and data. > > Mike Boyd > Brisbane, Aust. > > -----Original Message----- > From: inezmayall@optusnet.com.au > Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 10:44 AM > To: ayrshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AYR] Hugh Bankhead Grisel Muir > > Greetings to everyone, > I am looking for any information on Hugh Bankhead who Married Grisel Muir > in > 1758 in Ballantrae. > I know of at least 2 children > Jacobina Bankhead born 1759 > William Bankhead born 1761 my 3X Great Grandfather > I would like to know if there are any other children and also parents of > Grisel and Hugh > Regards > Inez > Victoria > Australia > > --- > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2018 19:05:39 -0800 > From: "Linda" <searchinguk@shaw.ca> > To: "'Mike Boyd'" <mikejboyd@bigpond.com>, <AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com>, > <inezmayall@optusnet.com.au> > Subject: Re: [AYR] Fw: Hugh Bankhead Grisel Muir > Message-ID: <001c01d39009$391550c0$ab3ff240$@shaw.ca> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hello Inez, > I have information on the Bankhead families that may be of interest to you > if you have not been able to find information on your Hugh Bankhead and > Grizel/Grace Muir/Mure or Moor (possibly other variants as well). > > In part, I will paste from an original Rootschat document regarding the > Bankhead Family History which was posted back in back in 2010 and I am not > sure if the link is still open and not broken, so will send you what I have > on my file as an and will send in the entirety as an attachment to your own > reading and should aid you in your search. I think you will find it a very > interesting as it is well documented with sources such as OPR Hearth Tax > etc. > > Cheers > Linda Nordby > > 1763 a Hugh Bankhead surgeon in Portressock (Port Logan) > Wigtounshire died leaving a widow Grizzel Moor and children Jacobina and > William. This is the son of > the above Hugh. He married Grisel/Grizzle Muir/Moor in BALLANTRAE (S > Ayrshire) parish on 25th April > 1758. A daughter Jacobina was christened on 11/3/1759, son William > 27/6/1761 > Jacobina married Samuel McCutcheon at Kirkmaiden by Drummore 12/4/1784. > A William Bankhead married Ann Bryce in Stoneykirk 12/3/1827, a descendant > obviously, but whose? > > PART II > THE BANKHEADS. > A SMALL SCOTS-IRISH FAMILY > This is a companion volume to the story of the Bankhead family in Scotland. > It is a regrettable fact > that the destruction of an enormous amount of Irish records when the Four > Courts in Dublin were > stormed in the Irish Civil War of 1922 has rendered it extremely difficult > for family historians. So > what follows is, in respect of early records, necessarily patchy. > EARLY RECORDS > >From our Scottish research we know that at least one member of the family > was in Ulster by 1604. > Elizabeth Bankhead spouse of Hugh Montgomery, sergeant of the Regality of > Kilwinning, is mentioned in a > sasine as being of Killiglen in the County of Antrim. This ties in with the > known concentration of the > family in the Scottish parishes of Kilwinning and Kilmaurs. > However we have to wait until 1631 to note the presence of one James #1 > Bankhead who is recorded in a > muster roll as being on the lands of the Earl of Antrim in Dunluce Barony. > He possessed no weapons. > Now in the course of my quest I had the good fortune to make the > acquaintance of Jim Bankhead a retired > school teacher from Coleraine. Jim had spend years researching the family > history and when age and > infirmity meant that he could no longer continue this he presented me with > his complete notes. These > start with a family legend that 2 brothers came over from Scotland in 17th > Century, one settling in > Coleraine, the other going South to Ahoghill. The presence of James #1 near > Dunluce does seem to tie > in with the latter when further evidence is considered and it is a fact > that > up until my own fathers > time the Bankhead name was almost exclusive to Ahoghill and environs. > There are few surviving records for Co. Antrim in this period and it is not > until 1669 and the Hearth > Money Rolls that the Bankhead name reappears. A James #2 Bankhead was > recorded at Eden,Kilconway > Barony, Finvoy Parish. Since this is between Coleraine and Ahoghill it > might > indicate the origins of > the Ahoghill 'clan' although it is not until 1740 that the first positive > sighting in that parish > occurs. However various Coleraine records give rise to a few interesting > puzzles of their own. > The Rev John Grahams 'Derriana' published in 1823 describes a statement > from > citizens of Coleraine > dated 3rd Feb 1690 which commends the behaviour of Michelburns regiment in > the town. Amongst the > signatories are Hugh #1 Bankhead. James Ousteau and John G ........ > (illegible). The Minutes of the > Ulster Synod which have been published in Book Form can offer a reliable > guide to the early locations > of Ulster families and this is certainly true in our case. > On Sept 30th 1691 Hugh #1 Bankhead is recorded as a commissioner from > Coleraine together with James > Ousteau and John Gault. It will be remembered from our Scottish research > that James-Hugh is the > favoured family naming sequence for many many generations. This Hugh is > periodically mentioned as a > Commissioner up to 1706 and as a Ruling Elder in 1698. However the very > earliest mention is in the > council minutes of 10th Dec 1678 when Hugh was admitted as a freeman > paying '?4 & silver spoon with marks and the fees'. The following 15th > March > he and others who had not > appeared to take their oath were commanded to do so at the Mayors house > before 20th March. > A prerogative will is one in which property was left in more than one > Diocese. > These alas were victims of the destruction in 1922 but luckily Benhams > Genealogical index drawn up prior to > that date survives. In it we find the > will of Hugh Bankhead of Killoran (Coleraine), a Tanner,dated 4th March > 1718 > and intriguingly that of > his son James #3 of Coleraine,dated 11th December in the same year. A > fairly > complete family tree can > be determined from the Benham abstracts. > Hugh #1 > > -----Original Message----- > From: AYRSHIRE [mailto:ayrshire-bounces+searchinguk=shaw.ca@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of Mike Boyd > Sent: January 17, 2018 12:36 PM > To: AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AYR] Fw: Hugh Bankhead Grisel Muir > > sORRY DID NOT SEND THIS TO THE WHOLE LIST. > > Perhaps others might have other sources that can help Inez? > > Mike boyd > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Boyd > Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 10:22 PM > To: inezmayall@optusnet.com.au > Subject: Re: [AYR] Hugh Bankhead Grisel Muir > > Inez > I assume that your Grisel Muir is not one of the Muir's of Rowallan Castle > between Fenwick and Kilmaurs. > > If I do recall from either George Robertson book of the 1820's or James > Paterson's book of the 1850's and 1860's, there was at least one Muir > family > in Carrick, Ayrshire (what is now called South Ayrshire). But I can't > recall the location as I was searching for Boyd families. > > So it might be worth contacting the South Ayrshire Local Studies Library in > Ayr (town) to see if they have any information on either the families of > Bankhead and Muir. > > That will only work if they have a farm. So do you know Hugh's occupation > etc? > > The other area to look at is the "Scotlandpeople" website that gives the > Old > Parish Register's. It might be worth going to your local Library or Family > History/Genealogical Society to get some assistance in finding your way > through this website. I would start with the two children you know to see > what details it might provide? For example, it might tell you that William > is the 10th or 15th child and his father's occupation and other items that > can help you i your research. So you might be able to work out when they > married and look at the records for that period. > > I think that Bankhead is also a Kilmarnock/Fenwick name as well, so it > might > be worth looking in the Archives for this list. (I assume that the new > List > master will be able to provide you with advise on how to do that.) > > If you use Dr google to find websites that might list them - be "very > careful" about any trees on their website. (I am in the process of writing > a letter to a query and the website said that a 12 months old girl had a > son. [I know I went to a boys boarding high school, and we had a settled > life - but even I know that 12 month girls can't have children, even with > Scottish medicine.] ) So use your good Australian common sense when you > are > looking at these trees. They might lead you to contacts and data. > > Mike Boyd > Brisbane, Aust. > > -----Original Message----- > From: inezmayall@optusnet.com.au > Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 10:44 AM > To: ayrshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AYR] Hugh Bankhead Grisel Muir > > Greetings to everyone, > I am looking for any information on Hugh Bankhead who Married Grisel Muir > in > 1758 in Ballantrae. > I know of at least 2 children > Jacobina Bankhead born 1759 > William Bankhead born 1761 my 3X Great Grandfather I would like to know if > there are any other children and also parents of Grisel and Hugh Regards > Inez Victoria Australia > > --- > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2018 20:33:52 -0800 > From: <ruth.enns@shaw.ca> > To: <AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [AYR] Wm & Grizzel MUIT > Message-ID: <784FDEF68EAB4DA2A0F0C6AF7FEFF8B0@RuthPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso [The entire original message is not included.]
Hello I would gladly have done it this morning but I moved away from Ayr 3 years ago. I’m sure there are plenty of others on the site who will oblige but if not, I’ll try the next time that I go north. Eliena Sent from my iPhone > On 4 Jun 2018, at 02:48, Murray Reid <mhhr@xtra.co.nz> wrote: > > Dear List, > > I have traversed this question before without success but with the Northern > summer upon us I thought I would seek help again. > > I claim Thomas (1667- 1733) as my 5 x Gt Grandfather. His headstone in > Alloway "Auld Kirk" describes him as "Dyster of Craig Mill" > > The site of the ruined mill is clearly shown on this (1843-1882) map. > > http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=16 > <http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=16&lat=55.4209&lon=-4.6280&layers=5&b= > 1> &lat=55.4209&lon=-4.6280&layers=5&b=1 (To see a satellite image slide > the large blue dot on the left.) > > There is an earlier (1752) map which doesn't show the word "ruin" I suspect > the mill, was still operating then possibly by a descendant of Thomas. > > Being remote from a road and in a wooded area I think it entirely possible > that remains of the mill might still exist. > > My wish is that someone living in the area might be willing to go for a hike > to the site to test my theory. > > The going would seem easy across pasture and no more than 600m from vehicle > access. > > It would seem to me that the land is owned by the property "Doonside" off > the B7024 highway. > > I would also be interested in the history of the nearby "Craig Mill Mount". > Was it a quarry/metal source? > > I ask that because just upstream from the Mill ruins there appears to be a > weir, that is likely manmade and the source of water for the mill. > > Can anybody help please? > > I would like to be there next weekend but I am 18000 km and many dollars > away. > > Another piece of useless fantasy is that a grandson (b1744) of Thomas is > very possibly "Tam" of "Tam o Shanter" fame. > > Regards > > Murray Reid > > Tuakau > > NZ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/ayrshire@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/ayrshire@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
Dear List, I have traversed this question before without success but with the Northern summer upon us I thought I would seek help again. I claim Thomas (1667- 1733) as my 5 x Gt Grandfather. His headstone in Alloway "Auld Kirk" describes him as "Dyster of Craig Mill" The site of the ruined mill is clearly shown on this (1843-1882) map. http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=16 <http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=16&lat=55.4209&lon=-4.6280&layers=5&b= 1> &lat=55.4209&lon=-4.6280&layers=5&b=1 (To see a satellite image slide the large blue dot on the left.) There is an earlier (1752) map which doesn't show the word "ruin" I suspect the mill, was still operating then possibly by a descendant of Thomas. Being remote from a road and in a wooded area I think it entirely possible that remains of the mill might still exist. My wish is that someone living in the area might be willing to go for a hike to the site to test my theory. The going would seem easy across pasture and no more than 600m from vehicle access. It would seem to me that the land is owned by the property "Doonside" off the B7024 highway. I would also be interested in the history of the nearby "Craig Mill Mount". Was it a quarry/metal source? I ask that because just upstream from the Mill ruins there appears to be a weir, that is likely manmade and the source of water for the mill. Can anybody help please? I would like to be there next weekend but I am 18000 km and many dollars away. Another piece of useless fantasy is that a grandson (b1744) of Thomas is very possibly "Tam" of "Tam o Shanter" fame. Regards Murray Reid Tuakau NZ
Rick Which of the three parts of Ayrshire are you looking at? You have East Ayrshire North Ayrshire and South Ayrshire Council area's and each has an local Studies Library at that can help you, If your Hannah owned land, they may be in George Robertson's books of the 1820's or in James Patterson's books of the 1850's and 1860's. But you will nee dot contact the Library for the right area. Mike Boyd' Brisbane -----Original Message----- From: rjhanna@hickorytech.net Sent: Monday, June 4, 2018 4:20 AM To: ayrshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [AYR] HANNAY / HANNA 1, Share information with anyone researching HANNAY / HANNA. 2. Contact anyone who specializes in Ayrshire research. 3. What does a citation such as FR319 in Old Parish Records refer to? I will appreciate any help. Thanks, Rick Hanna _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/ayrshire@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/ayrshire@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
I have researched a few Hannah’s in Ayrshire over the years. The families have been named Hanna/Hanny/Hannah, mainly Stevenston and Kilwinning. Maybe I can help? Linda Sent from my iPad > On Jun 3, 2018, at 11:20 AM, <rjhanna@hickorytech.net> <rjhanna@hickorytech.net> wrote: > > > > 1, Share information with anyone researching HANNAY / HANNA. > > 2. Contact anyone who specializes in Ayrshire research. > > 3. What does a citation such as FR319 in Old Parish Records refer to? > I will appreciate any help. > > Thanks, Rick Hanna > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/ayrshire@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/ayrshire@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
Are you also covering HANNAH? On Jun 3, 2018, at 14:20, <rjhanna@hickorytech.net> <rjhanna@hickorytech.net> wrote: 1, Share information with anyone researching HANNAY / HANNA. 2. Contact anyone who specializes in Ayrshire research. 3. What does a citation such as FR319 in Old Parish Records refer to? I will appreciate any help. Thanks, Rick Hanna _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/ayrshire@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/ayrshire@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
1, Share information with anyone researching HANNAY / HANNA. 2. Contact anyone who specializes in Ayrshire research. 3. What does a citation such as FR319 in Old Parish Records refer to? I will appreciate any help. Thanks, Rick Hanna
Hi Charmain, I did a test and sent an email to Alistair. It didn't come back to me. So try alistair_dunlop@hotmail.com. Regards Debbie On Sun, 3 Jun 2018, 10:48 Charmaine Andresen via AYRSHIRE, < ayrshire@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hello Debra,My email for Alistair has bounced back to me twice, maybe you > wrote it wrong?Charmaine > > | | Virus-free. www.avg.com | > > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/ayrshire@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/ayrshire@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >
Hello Debra,My email for Alistair has bounced back to me twice, maybe you wrote it wrong?Charmaine | | Virus-free. www.avg.com |
Hi Charmaine, If you email me directly I'll given you his contact details - deborah.rea94@gmail.com. Regards Debbie Rea On Sun, 3 Jun 2018, 09:55 Charmaine Andresen via AYRSHIRE, < ayrshire@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Hello, I am hoping someone knows Alistair Dunlop who was on this mailing > list some time ago. He was a Fenwick local as I remember him telling me. > Hoping to get back in contact with him asap.Thanks,Charmaine Andresen. > On Thursday, 18 January 2018 09:00:27 PM NZDT, > ayrshire-request@rootsweb.com <ayrshire-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Send AYRSHIRE mailing list submissions to > ayrshire@rootsweb.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists9.rootsweb.ancestry.com/mailman/listinfo/ayrshire > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > ayrshire-request@rootsweb.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > ayrshire-owner@rootsweb.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of AYRSHIRE digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Fw: Hugh Bankhead Grisel Muir (Mike Boyd) > 2. Re: Fw: Hugh Bankhead Grisel Muir (Linda) > 3. Wm & Grizzel MUIT (ruth.enns@shaw.ca) > 4. Re: Wm & Grizzel MUIT (ruth.enns@shaw.ca) > 5. Re: Fw: Hugh Bankhead Grisel Muir (Mike Boyd) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 06:36:06 +1000 > From: Mike Boyd <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> > To: <AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [AYR] Fw: Hugh Bankhead Grisel Muir > Message-ID: <2EC93F1038974F82AB9EA089F1F54D2E@MichaelPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=response > > sORRY DID NOT SEND THIS TO THE WHOLE LIST. > > Perhaps others might have other sources that can help Inez? > > Mike boyd > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Boyd > Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 10:22 PM > To: inezmayall@optusnet.com.au > Subject: Re: [AYR] Hugh Bankhead Grisel Muir > > Inez > I assume that your Grisel Muir is not one of the Muir's of Rowallan Castle > between Fenwick and Kilmaurs. > > If I do recall from either George Robertson book of the 1820's or James > Paterson's book of the 1850's and 1860's, there was at least one Muir > family > in Carrick, Ayrshire (what is now called South Ayrshire). But I can't > recall the location as I was searching for Boyd families. > > So it might be worth contacting the South Ayrshire Local Studies Library in > Ayr (town) to see if they have any information on either the families of > Bankhead and Muir. > > That will only work if they have a farm. So do you know Hugh's occupation > etc? > > The other area to look at is the "Scotlandpeople" website that gives the > Old > Parish Register's. It might be worth going to your local Library or Family > History/Genealogical Society to get some assistance in finding your way > through this website. I would start with the two children you know to see > what details it might provide? For example, it might tell you that William > is the 10th or 15th child and his father's occupation and other items that > can help you i your research. So you might be able to work out when they > married and look at the records for that period. > > I think that Bankhead is also a Kilmarnock/Fenwick name as well, so it > might > be worth looking in the Archives for this list. (I assume that the new > List > master will be able to provide you with advise on how to do that.) > > If you use Dr google to find websites that might list them - be "very > careful" about any trees on their website. (I am in the process of writing > a letter to a query and the website said that a 12 months old girl had a > son. [I know I went to a boys boarding high school, and we had a settled > life - but even I know that 12 month girls can't have children, even with > Scottish medicine.] ) So use your good Australian common sense when you > are > looking at these trees. They might lead you to contacts and data. > > Mike Boyd > Brisbane, Aust. > > -----Original Message----- > From: inezmayall@optusnet.com.au > Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 10:44 AM > To: ayrshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AYR] Hugh Bankhead Grisel Muir > > Greetings to everyone, > I am looking for any information on Hugh Bankhead who Married Grisel Muir > in > 1758 in Ballantrae. > I know of at least 2 children > Jacobina Bankhead born 1759 > William Bankhead born 1761 my 3X Great Grandfather > I would like to know if there are any other children and also parents of > Grisel and Hugh > Regards > Inez > Victoria > Australia > > --- > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2018 19:05:39 -0800 > From: "Linda" <searchinguk@shaw.ca> > To: "'Mike Boyd'" <mikejboyd@bigpond.com>, <AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com>, > <inezmayall@optusnet.com.au> > Subject: Re: [AYR] Fw: Hugh Bankhead Grisel Muir > Message-ID: <001c01d39009$391550c0$ab3ff240$@shaw.ca> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hello Inez, > I have information on the Bankhead families that may be of interest to you > if you have not been able to find information on your Hugh Bankhead and > Grizel/Grace Muir/Mure or Moor (possibly other variants as well). > > In part, I will paste from an original Rootschat document regarding the > Bankhead Family History which was posted back in back in 2010 and I am not > sure if the link is still open and not broken, so will send you what I have > on my file as an and will send in the entirety as an attachment to your own > reading and should aid you in your search. I think you will find it a very > interesting as it is well documented with sources such as OPR Hearth Tax > etc. > > Cheers > Linda Nordby > > 1763 a Hugh Bankhead surgeon in Portressock (Port Logan) > Wigtounshire died leaving a widow Grizzel Moor and children Jacobina and > William. This is the son of > the above Hugh. He married Grisel/Grizzle Muir/Moor in BALLANTRAE (S > Ayrshire) parish on 25th April > 1758. A daughter Jacobina was christened on 11/3/1759, son William > 27/6/1761 > Jacobina married Samuel McCutcheon at Kirkmaiden by Drummore 12/4/1784. > A William Bankhead married Ann Bryce in Stoneykirk 12/3/1827, a descendant > obviously, but whose? > > PART II > THE BANKHEADS. > A SMALL SCOTS-IRISH FAMILY > This is a companion volume to the story of the Bankhead family in Scotland. > It is a regrettable fact > that the destruction of an enormous amount of Irish records when the Four > Courts in Dublin were > stormed in the Irish Civil War of 1922 has rendered it extremely difficult > for family historians. So > what follows is, in respect of early records, necessarily patchy. > EARLY RECORDS > >From our Scottish research we know that at least one member of the family > was in Ulster by 1604. > Elizabeth Bankhead spouse of Hugh Montgomery, sergeant of the Regality of > Kilwinning, is mentioned in a > sasine as being of Killiglen in the County of Antrim. This ties in with the > known concentration of the > family in the Scottish parishes of Kilwinning and Kilmaurs. > However we have to wait until 1631 to note the presence of one James #1 > Bankhead who is recorded in a > muster roll as being on the lands of the Earl of Antrim in Dunluce Barony. > He possessed no weapons. > Now in the course of my quest I had the good fortune to make the > acquaintance of Jim Bankhead a retired > school teacher from Coleraine. Jim had spend years researching the family > history and when age and > infirmity meant that he could no longer continue this he presented me with > his complete notes. These > start with a family legend that 2 brothers came over from Scotland in 17th > Century, one settling in > Coleraine, the other going South to Ahoghill. The presence of James #1 near > Dunluce does seem to tie > in with the latter when further evidence is considered and it is a fact > that > up until my own fathers > time the Bankhead name was almost exclusive to Ahoghill and environs. > There are few surviving records for Co. Antrim in this period and it is not > until 1669 and the Hearth > Money Rolls that the Bankhead name reappears. A James #2 Bankhead was > recorded at Eden,Kilconway > Barony, Finvoy Parish. Since this is between Coleraine and Ahoghill it > might > indicate the origins of > the Ahoghill 'clan' although it is not until 1740 that the first positive > sighting in that parish > occurs. However various Coleraine records give rise to a few interesting > puzzles of their own. > The Rev John Grahams 'Derriana' published in 1823 describes a statement > from > citizens of Coleraine > dated 3rd Feb 1690 which commends the behaviour of Michelburns regiment in > the town. Amongst the > signatories are Hugh #1 Bankhead. James Ousteau and John G ........ > (illegible). The Minutes of the > Ulster Synod which have been published in Book Form can offer a reliable > guide to the early locations > of Ulster families and this is certainly true in our case. > On Sept 30th 1691 Hugh #1 Bankhead is recorded as a commissioner from > Coleraine together with James > Ousteau and John Gault. It will be remembered from our Scottish research > that James-Hugh is the > favoured family naming sequence for many many generations. This Hugh is > periodically mentioned as a > Commissioner up to 1706 and as a Ruling Elder in 1698. However the very > earliest mention is in the > council minutes of 10th Dec 1678 when Hugh was admitted as a freeman > paying '?4 & silver spoon with marks and the fees'. The following 15th > March > he and others who had not > appeared to take their oath were commanded to do so at the Mayors house > before 20th March. > A prerogative will is one in which property was left in more than one > Diocese. > These alas were victims of the destruction in 1922 but luckily Benhams > Genealogical index drawn up prior to > that date survives. In it we find the > will of Hugh Bankhead of Killoran (Coleraine), a Tanner,dated 4th March > 1718 > and intriguingly that of > his son James #3 of Coleraine,dated 11th December in the same year. A > fairly > complete family tree can > be determined from the Benham abstracts. > Hugh #1 > > -----Original Message----- > From: AYRSHIRE [mailto:ayrshire-bounces+searchinguk=shaw.ca@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of Mike Boyd > Sent: January 17, 2018 12:36 PM > To: AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AYR] Fw: Hugh Bankhead Grisel Muir > > sORRY DID NOT SEND THIS TO THE WHOLE LIST. > > Perhaps others might have other sources that can help Inez? > > Mike boyd > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Boyd > Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 10:22 PM > To: inezmayall@optusnet.com.au > Subject: Re: [AYR] Hugh Bankhead Grisel Muir > > Inez > I assume that your Grisel Muir is not one of the Muir's of Rowallan Castle > between Fenwick and Kilmaurs. > > If I do recall from either George Robertson book of the 1820's or James > Paterson's book of the 1850's and 1860's, there was at least one Muir > family > in Carrick, Ayrshire (what is now called South Ayrshire). But I can't > recall the location as I was searching for Boyd families. > > So it might be worth contacting the South Ayrshire Local Studies Library in > Ayr (town) to see if they have any information on either the families of > Bankhead and Muir. > > That will only work if they have a farm. So do you know Hugh's occupation > etc? > > The other area to look at is the "Scotlandpeople" website that gives the > Old > Parish Register's. It might be worth going to your local Library or Family > History/Genealogical Society to get some assistance in finding your way > through this website. I would start with the two children you know to see > what details it might provide? For example, it might tell you that William > is the 10th or 15th child and his father's occupation and other items that > can help you i your research. So you might be able to work out when they > married and look at the records for that period. > > I think that Bankhead is also a Kilmarnock/Fenwick name as well, so it > might > be worth looking in the Archives for this list. (I assume that the new > List > master will be able to provide you with advise on how to do that.) > > If you use Dr google to find websites that might list them - be "very > careful" about any trees on their website. (I am in the process of writing > a letter to a query and the website said that a 12 months old girl had a > son. [I know I went to a boys boarding high school, and we had a settled > life - but even I know that 12 month girls can't have children, even with > Scottish medicine.] ) So use your good Australian common sense when you > are > looking at these trees. They might lead you to contacts and data. > > Mike Boyd > Brisbane, Aust. > > -----Original Message----- > From: inezmayall@optusnet.com.au > Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 10:44 AM > To: ayrshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AYR] Hugh Bankhead Grisel Muir > > Greetings to everyone, > I am looking for any information on Hugh Bankhead who Married Grisel Muir > in > 1758 in Ballantrae. > I know of at least 2 children > Jacobina Bankhead born 1759 > William Bankhead born 1761 my 3X Great Grandfather I would like to know if > there are any other children and also parents of Grisel and Hugh Regards > Inez Victoria Australia > > --- > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2018 20:33:52 -0800 > From: <ruth.enns@shaw.ca> > To: <AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [AYR] Wm & Grizzel MUIT > Message-ID: <784FDEF68EAB4DA2A0F0C6AF7FEFF8B0@RuthPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > I have a Wm Muir m to Grizzel McWhinnie > m: 1784 Straiton, Ayr > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2018 21:00:51 -0800 > From: <ruth.enns@shaw.ca> > To: <AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [AYR] Wm & Grizzel MUIT > Message-ID: <E632C6309ECF48F3BEAD8EB11554C2F4@RuthPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=response > > no, mine is McWhinnie! > > -----Original Message----- > From: ruth.enns@shaw.ca > Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 8:33 PM > To: AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AYR] Wm & Grizzel MUIT > > I have a Wm Muir m to Grizzel McWhinnie > m: 1784 Straiton, Ayr > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 17:16:19 +1000 > From: Mike Boyd <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> > To: Linda <searchinguk@shaw.ca>, <AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com>, > <inezmayall@optusnet.com.au> > Subject: Re: [AYR] Fw: Hugh Bankhead Grisel Muir > Message-ID: <F6B79C733D2F47A09B28324F2AC70E3C@MichaelPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Linda and Inez > In 1603 the Earl of Antrim in County Antrim, Ireland, although a Catholic, > brought over to his lands Covenantors from the Lowland to farm his lands > in > The Route. This is between Ballymoney and Ballycastle. > > The Church at Kilraghts is still a covenantor Church today. So it might > be > worth contaxting them to see if any Bankhead's came as part of that > migration. > > On the road from Derrykeigan to Ballybogy and just over the bridge as you > cross the Bush River is a Montgomery Family (on the west side). I think > that it is called Benvarden House? Very nice two story house if I recall. > > So Elizabeth Bankhead might be part of that family? > > Are you on the two County Antrim rootsweb.com net lists? If not it might > be > worth following this line up on those sites. Although records were > destroyed in 1922, there is still much that can be found. > > Mike Boyd > > -----Original Message----- > From: Linda > Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2018 1:05 PM > To: 'Mike Boyd' ; AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com ; inezmayall@optusnet.com.au > Subject: RE: [AYR] Fw: Hugh Bankhead Grisel Muir > > Hello Inez, > I have information on the Bankhead families that may be of interest to you > if you have not been able to find information on your Hugh Bankhead and > Grizel/Grace Muir/Mure or Moor (possibly other variants as well). > > In part, I will paste from an original Rootschat document regarding the > Bankhead Family History which was posted back in back in 2010 and I am not > sure if the link is still open and not broken, so will send you what I have > on my file as an and will send in the entirety as an attachment to your own > reading and should aid you in your search. I think you will find it a very > interesting as it is well documented with sources such as OPR Hearth Tax > etc. > > Cheers > Linda Nordby > > 1763 a Hugh Bankhead surgeon in Portressock (Port Logan) > Wigtounshire died leaving a widow Grizzel Moor and children Jacobina and > William. This is the son of > the above Hugh. He married Grisel/Grizzle Muir/Moor in BALLANTRAE (S > Ayrshire) parish on 25th April > 1758. A daughter Jacobina was christened on 11/3/1759, son William > 27/6/1761 > Jacobina married Samuel McCutcheon at Kirkmaiden by Drummore 12/4/1784. > A William Bankhead married Ann Bryce in Stoneykirk 12/3/1827, a descendant > obviously, but whose? > > PART II > THE BANKHEADS. > A SMALL SCOTS-IRISH FAMILY > This is a companion volume to the story of the Bankhead family in Scotland. > It is a regrettable fact > that the destruction of an enormous amount of Irish records when the Four > Courts in Dublin were > stormed in the Irish Civil War of 1922 has rendered it extremely difficult > for family historians. So > what follows is, in respect of early records, necessarily patchy. > EARLY RECORDS > >From our Scottish research we know that at least one member of the family > was in Ulster by 1604. > Elizabeth Bankhead spouse of Hugh Montgomery, sergeant of the Regality of > Kilwinning, is mentioned in a > sasine as being of Killiglen in the County of Antrim. This ties in with the > known concentration of the > family in the Scottish parishes of Kilwinning and Kilmaurs. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > To contact the AYRSHIRE list administrator, send an email to > AYRSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the AYRSHIRE mailing list, send an email to > AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > ------------------------------ > > End of AYRSHIRE Digest, Vol 13, Issue 11 > **************************************** > > > | | Virus-free. www.avg.com | > > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/ayrshire@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/ayrshire@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >
Hello, I am hoping someone knows Alistair Dunlop who was on this mailing list some time ago. He was a Fenwick local as I remember him telling me. Hoping to get back in contact with him asap.Thanks,Charmaine Andresen. On Thursday, 18 January 2018 09:00:27 PM NZDT, ayrshire-request@rootsweb.com <ayrshire-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: Send AYRSHIRE mailing list submissions to ayrshire@rootsweb.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists9.rootsweb.ancestry.com/mailman/listinfo/ayrshire or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ayrshire-request@rootsweb.com You can reach the person managing the list at ayrshire-owner@rootsweb.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of AYRSHIRE digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Fw: Hugh Bankhead Grisel Muir (Mike Boyd) 2. Re: Fw: Hugh Bankhead Grisel Muir (Linda) 3. Wm & Grizzel MUIT (ruth.enns@shaw.ca) 4. Re: Wm & Grizzel MUIT (ruth.enns@shaw.ca) 5. Re: Fw: Hugh Bankhead Grisel Muir (Mike Boyd) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 06:36:06 +1000 From: Mike Boyd <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> To: <AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Subject: [AYR] Fw: Hugh Bankhead Grisel Muir Message-ID: <2EC93F1038974F82AB9EA089F1F54D2E@MichaelPC> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response sORRY DID NOT SEND THIS TO THE WHOLE LIST. Perhaps others might have other sources that can help Inez? Mike boyd -----Original Message----- From: Mike Boyd Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 10:22 PM To: inezmayall@optusnet.com.au Subject: Re: [AYR] Hugh Bankhead Grisel Muir Inez I assume that your Grisel Muir is not one of the Muir's of Rowallan Castle between Fenwick and Kilmaurs. If I do recall from either George Robertson book of the 1820's or James Paterson's book of the 1850's and 1860's, there was at least one Muir family in Carrick, Ayrshire (what is now called South Ayrshire). But I can't recall the location as I was searching for Boyd families. So it might be worth contacting the South Ayrshire Local Studies Library in Ayr (town) to see if they have any information on either the families of Bankhead and Muir. That will only work if they have a farm. So do you know Hugh's occupation etc? The other area to look at is the "Scotlandpeople" website that gives the Old Parish Register's. It might be worth going to your local Library or Family History/Genealogical Society to get some assistance in finding your way through this website. I would start with the two children you know to see what details it might provide? For example, it might tell you that William is the 10th or 15th child and his father's occupation and other items that can help you i your research. So you might be able to work out when they married and look at the records for that period. I think that Bankhead is also a Kilmarnock/Fenwick name as well, so it might be worth looking in the Archives for this list. (I assume that the new List master will be able to provide you with advise on how to do that.) If you use Dr google to find websites that might list them - be "very careful" about any trees on their website. (I am in the process of writing a letter to a query and the website said that a 12 months old girl had a son. [I know I went to a boys boarding high school, and we had a settled life - but even I know that 12 month girls can't have children, even with Scottish medicine.] ) So use your good Australian common sense when you are looking at these trees. They might lead you to contacts and data. Mike Boyd Brisbane, Aust. -----Original Message----- From: inezmayall@optusnet.com.au Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 10:44 AM To: ayrshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [AYR] Hugh Bankhead Grisel Muir Greetings to everyone, I am looking for any information on Hugh Bankhead who Married Grisel Muir in 1758 in Ballantrae. I know of at least 2 children Jacobina Bankhead born 1759 William Bankhead born 1761 my 3X Great Grandfather I would like to know if there are any other children and also parents of Grisel and Hugh Regards Inez Victoria Australia --- ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2018 19:05:39 -0800 From: "Linda" <searchinguk@shaw.ca> To: "'Mike Boyd'" <mikejboyd@bigpond.com>, <AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com>, <inezmayall@optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: [AYR] Fw: Hugh Bankhead Grisel Muir Message-ID: <001c01d39009$391550c0$ab3ff240$@shaw.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello Inez, I have information on the Bankhead families that may be of interest to you if you have not been able to find information on your Hugh Bankhead and Grizel/Grace Muir/Mure or Moor (possibly other variants as well). In part, I will paste from an original Rootschat document regarding the Bankhead Family History which was posted back in back in 2010 and I am not sure if the link is still open and not broken, so will send you what I have on my file as an and will send in the entirety as an attachment to your own reading and should aid you in your search. I think you will find it a very interesting as it is well documented with sources such as OPR Hearth Tax etc. Cheers Linda Nordby 1763 a Hugh Bankhead surgeon in Portressock (Port Logan) Wigtounshire died leaving a widow Grizzel Moor and children Jacobina and William. This is the son of the above Hugh. He married Grisel/Grizzle Muir/Moor in BALLANTRAE (S Ayrshire) parish on 25th April 1758. A daughter Jacobina was christened on 11/3/1759, son William 27/6/1761 Jacobina married Samuel McCutcheon at Kirkmaiden by Drummore 12/4/1784. A William Bankhead married Ann Bryce in Stoneykirk 12/3/1827, a descendant obviously, but whose? PART II THE BANKHEADS. A SMALL SCOTS-IRISH FAMILY This is a companion volume to the story of the Bankhead family in Scotland. It is a regrettable fact that the destruction of an enormous amount of Irish records when the Four Courts in Dublin were stormed in the Irish Civil War of 1922 has rendered it extremely difficult for family historians. So what follows is, in respect of early records, necessarily patchy. EARLY RECORDS >From our Scottish research we know that at least one member of the family was in Ulster by 1604. Elizabeth Bankhead spouse of Hugh Montgomery, sergeant of the Regality of Kilwinning, is mentioned in a sasine as being of Killiglen in the County of Antrim. This ties in with the known concentration of the family in the Scottish parishes of Kilwinning and Kilmaurs. However we have to wait until 1631 to note the presence of one James #1 Bankhead who is recorded in a muster roll as being on the lands of the Earl of Antrim in Dunluce Barony. He possessed no weapons. Now in the course of my quest I had the good fortune to make the acquaintance of Jim Bankhead a retired school teacher from Coleraine. Jim had spend years researching the family history and when age and infirmity meant that he could no longer continue this he presented me with his complete notes. These start with a family legend that 2 brothers came over from Scotland in 17th Century, one settling in Coleraine, the other going South to Ahoghill. The presence of James #1 near Dunluce does seem to tie in with the latter when further evidence is considered and it is a fact that up until my own fathers time the Bankhead name was almost exclusive to Ahoghill and environs. There are few surviving records for Co. Antrim in this period and it is not until 1669 and the Hearth Money Rolls that the Bankhead name reappears. A James #2 Bankhead was recorded at Eden,Kilconway Barony, Finvoy Parish. Since this is between Coleraine and Ahoghill it might indicate the origins of the Ahoghill 'clan' although it is not until 1740 that the first positive sighting in that parish occurs. However various Coleraine records give rise to a few interesting puzzles of their own. The Rev John Grahams 'Derriana' published in 1823 describes a statement from citizens of Coleraine dated 3rd Feb 1690 which commends the behaviour of Michelburns regiment in the town. Amongst the signatories are Hugh #1 Bankhead. James Ousteau and John G ........ (illegible). The Minutes of the Ulster Synod which have been published in Book Form can offer a reliable guide to the early locations of Ulster families and this is certainly true in our case. On Sept 30th 1691 Hugh #1 Bankhead is recorded as a commissioner from Coleraine together with James Ousteau and John Gault. It will be remembered from our Scottish research that James-Hugh is the favoured family naming sequence for many many generations. This Hugh is periodically mentioned as a Commissioner up to 1706 and as a Ruling Elder in 1698. However the very earliest mention is in the council minutes of 10th Dec 1678 when Hugh was admitted as a freeman paying '?4 & silver spoon with marks and the fees'. The following 15th March he and others who had not appeared to take their oath were commanded to do so at the Mayors house before 20th March. A prerogative will is one in which property was left in more than one Diocese. These alas were victims of the destruction in 1922 but luckily Benhams Genealogical index drawn up prior to that date survives. In it we find the will of Hugh Bankhead of Killoran (Coleraine), a Tanner,dated 4th March 1718 and intriguingly that of his son James #3 of Coleraine,dated 11th December in the same year. A fairly complete family tree can be determined from the Benham abstracts. Hugh #1 -----Original Message----- From: AYRSHIRE [mailto:ayrshire-bounces+searchinguk=shaw.ca@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mike Boyd Sent: January 17, 2018 12:36 PM To: AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com Subject: [AYR] Fw: Hugh Bankhead Grisel Muir sORRY DID NOT SEND THIS TO THE WHOLE LIST. Perhaps others might have other sources that can help Inez? Mike boyd -----Original Message----- From: Mike Boyd Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 10:22 PM To: inezmayall@optusnet.com.au Subject: Re: [AYR] Hugh Bankhead Grisel Muir Inez I assume that your Grisel Muir is not one of the Muir's of Rowallan Castle between Fenwick and Kilmaurs. If I do recall from either George Robertson book of the 1820's or James Paterson's book of the 1850's and 1860's, there was at least one Muir family in Carrick, Ayrshire (what is now called South Ayrshire). But I can't recall the location as I was searching for Boyd families. So it might be worth contacting the South Ayrshire Local Studies Library in Ayr (town) to see if they have any information on either the families of Bankhead and Muir. That will only work if they have a farm. So do you know Hugh's occupation etc? The other area to look at is the "Scotlandpeople" website that gives the Old Parish Register's. It might be worth going to your local Library or Family History/Genealogical Society to get some assistance in finding your way through this website. I would start with the two children you know to see what details it might provide? For example, it might tell you that William is the 10th or 15th child and his father's occupation and other items that can help you i your research. So you might be able to work out when they married and look at the records for that period. I think that Bankhead is also a Kilmarnock/Fenwick name as well, so it might be worth looking in the Archives for this list. (I assume that the new List master will be able to provide you with advise on how to do that.) If you use Dr google to find websites that might list them - be "very careful" about any trees on their website. (I am in the process of writing a letter to a query and the website said that a 12 months old girl had a son. [I know I went to a boys boarding high school, and we had a settled life - but even I know that 12 month girls can't have children, even with Scottish medicine.] ) So use your good Australian common sense when you are looking at these trees. They might lead you to contacts and data. Mike Boyd Brisbane, Aust. -----Original Message----- From: inezmayall@optusnet.com.au Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 10:44 AM To: ayrshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [AYR] Hugh Bankhead Grisel Muir Greetings to everyone, I am looking for any information on Hugh Bankhead who Married Grisel Muir in 1758 in Ballantrae. I know of at least 2 children Jacobina Bankhead born 1759 William Bankhead born 1761 my 3X Great Grandfather I would like to know if there are any other children and also parents of Grisel and Hugh Regards Inez Victoria Australia --- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2018 20:33:52 -0800 From: <ruth.enns@shaw.ca> To: <AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Subject: [AYR] Wm & Grizzel MUIT Message-ID: <784FDEF68EAB4DA2A0F0C6AF7FEFF8B0@RuthPC> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original I have a Wm Muir m to Grizzel McWhinnie m: 1784 Straiton, Ayr ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2018 21:00:51 -0800 From: <ruth.enns@shaw.ca> To: <AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [AYR] Wm & Grizzel MUIT Message-ID: <E632C6309ECF48F3BEAD8EB11554C2F4@RuthPC> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response no, mine is McWhinnie! -----Original Message----- From: ruth.enns@shaw.ca Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 8:33 PM To: AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com Subject: [AYR] Wm & Grizzel MUIT I have a Wm Muir m to Grizzel McWhinnie m: 1784 Straiton, Ayr ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 17:16:19 +1000 From: Mike Boyd <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> To: Linda <searchinguk@shaw.ca>, <AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com>, <inezmayall@optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: [AYR] Fw: Hugh Bankhead Grisel Muir Message-ID: <F6B79C733D2F47A09B28324F2AC70E3C@MichaelPC> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Linda and Inez In 1603 the Earl of Antrim in County Antrim, Ireland, although a Catholic, brought over to his lands Covenantors from the Lowland to farm his lands in The Route. This is between Ballymoney and Ballycastle. The Church at Kilraghts is still a covenantor Church today. So it might be worth contaxting them to see if any Bankhead's came as part of that migration. On the road from Derrykeigan to Ballybogy and just over the bridge as you cross the Bush River is a Montgomery Family (on the west side). I think that it is called Benvarden House? Very nice two story house if I recall. So Elizabeth Bankhead might be part of that family? Are you on the two County Antrim rootsweb.com net lists? If not it might be worth following this line up on those sites. Although records were destroyed in 1922, there is still much that can be found. Mike Boyd -----Original Message----- From: Linda Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2018 1:05 PM To: 'Mike Boyd' ; AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com ; inezmayall@optusnet.com.au Subject: RE: [AYR] Fw: Hugh Bankhead Grisel Muir Hello Inez, I have information on the Bankhead families that may be of interest to you if you have not been able to find information on your Hugh Bankhead and Grizel/Grace Muir/Mure or Moor (possibly other variants as well). In part, I will paste from an original Rootschat document regarding the Bankhead Family History which was posted back in back in 2010 and I am not sure if the link is still open and not broken, so will send you what I have on my file as an and will send in the entirety as an attachment to your own reading and should aid you in your search. I think you will find it a very interesting as it is well documented with sources such as OPR Hearth Tax etc. Cheers Linda Nordby 1763 a Hugh Bankhead surgeon in Portressock (Port Logan) Wigtounshire died leaving a widow Grizzel Moor and children Jacobina and William. This is the son of the above Hugh. He married Grisel/Grizzle Muir/Moor in BALLANTRAE (S Ayrshire) parish on 25th April 1758. A daughter Jacobina was christened on 11/3/1759, son William 27/6/1761 Jacobina married Samuel McCutcheon at Kirkmaiden by Drummore 12/4/1784. A William Bankhead married Ann Bryce in Stoneykirk 12/3/1827, a descendant obviously, but whose? PART II THE BANKHEADS. A SMALL SCOTS-IRISH FAMILY This is a companion volume to the story of the Bankhead family in Scotland. It is a regrettable fact that the destruction of an enormous amount of Irish records when the Four Courts in Dublin were stormed in the Irish Civil War of 1922 has rendered it extremely difficult for family historians. So what follows is, in respect of early records, necessarily patchy. EARLY RECORDS >From our Scottish research we know that at least one member of the family was in Ulster by 1604. Elizabeth Bankhead spouse of Hugh Montgomery, sergeant of the Regality of Kilwinning, is mentioned in a sasine as being of Killiglen in the County of Antrim. This ties in with the known concentration of the family in the Scottish parishes of Kilwinning and Kilmaurs. ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer To contact the AYRSHIRE list administrator, send an email to AYRSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com. 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