Definiately not Nick! On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 at 16:41, Nicholas Wilson <wilsonnicholas90@gmail.com> wrote: > My father was born in Dharamsala in northern India where his father was > serving as a IMS officer in the King Edward’s 1st Gurkhas. the fourth in > the Wilson line to serve and live in that country starting with Thomas > Wilson who died in Meerut in 1867. > > Maybe this is not the answer you were expecting > > > Nick > > iOn Sep 14, 2018, at 12:57 AM, Deborah Rea <deborah.rea94@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > Nick, where was your father born? > > > > On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 at 00:24, Nicholas Wilson < > wilsonnicholas90@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > >> Hello, > >> > >> After nearly twenty years of searching I am still trying to track down > >> the father of my railway building 2x great grandfather, Thomas, whose > >> father was a John Wilson. I am currently hoping to connect my Thomas, > who > >> started life as a land surveyor , with the subject surveyor , who is > said > >> to have died in 1820. The chances of the two men being related is remote > >> but it would help me if someone can share their knowledge of the subject > >> John Wilson with me. > >> > >> ScotlandsPeople have 615 John Wilsons born between 1750 and 1770 so > quite > >> a wide field to search > >> > >> Thanks, Nick > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Email preferences: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=8N4j7NU6EpYNyk0Sqs4UWwgwe4cD5kCZjbDA2fjtrGY&s=o48MvaSj6cvTnwij5RqoJ08QgvIkgblDTc64MTkMvfU&e= > >> Unsubscribe > >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ayrshire@rootsweb.com > >> Privacy Statement: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=8N4j7NU6EpYNyk0Sqs4UWwgwe4cD5kCZjbDA2fjtrGY&s=CnjFYlPFql91h-xXyHXkcUnpq-7uUGg-oqScpigzPzs&e= > Terms and Conditions: > >> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=8N4j7NU6EpYNyk0Sqs4UWwgwe4cD5kCZjbDA2fjtrGY&s=Hx-84jqjD2OkrgW8wtMaeFfWcpxAUNYpZV1nD4h4Bq0&e= > >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > >> community > >> > > > > > > -- > > Debbie Rea > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=IKBb32Wh8PxoHffOMa971-VmpcX7uWNdp5m2NqPj2ic&s=H872BMOBYfsJb6GLe-aGI3dEy-bp719FpTm7sjBoAB8&e= > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ayrshire@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=IKBb32Wh8PxoHffOMa971-VmpcX7uWNdp5m2NqPj2ic&s=9izh3lW05R16Q9bERJRncsc-8gmW37Sj2MviG0mMk38&e= > Terms and Conditions: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=IKBb32Wh8PxoHffOMa971-VmpcX7uWNdp5m2NqPj2ic&s=RUF0vRxhf-WIARKOkg_vMiGOcBYp6VMjPxisYTxOFTQ&e= > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=_mJnL0FvjM2SYjOCMLrrTK9YEF8KM0T0imvR0ZidXNA&s=csehdxrNCuC3pJyQseYCW5H9woR8yY_Muutlwr-xIk0&e= > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ayrshire@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=_mJnL0FvjM2SYjOCMLrrTK9YEF8KM0T0imvR0ZidXNA&s=YtPZgCCyn5l7dRy38BtSWMw9OcKbtEQl_WEbYapZYAI&e= Terms and Conditions: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=_mJnL0FvjM2SYjOCMLrrTK9YEF8KM0T0imvR0ZidXNA&s=I7jS27PfNJV7F2X2fMO6qBV-XWqTORSnAlCnvysCMaE&e= > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > -- Debbie Rea

My father was born in Dharamsala in northern India where his father was serving as a IMS officer in the King Edward’s 1st Gurkhas. the fourth in the Wilson line to serve and live in that country starting with Thomas Wilson who died in Meerut in 1867. Maybe this is not the answer you were expecting Nick iOn Sep 14, 2018, at 12:57 AM, Deborah Rea <deborah.rea94@gmail.com> wrote: > > Nick, where was your father born? > > On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 at 00:24, Nicholas Wilson <wilsonnicholas90@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> After nearly twenty years of searching I am still trying to track down >> the father of my railway building 2x great grandfather, Thomas, whose >> father was a John Wilson. I am currently hoping to connect my Thomas, who >> started life as a land surveyor , with the subject surveyor , who is said >> to have died in 1820. The chances of the two men being related is remote >> but it would help me if someone can share their knowledge of the subject >> John Wilson with me. >> >> ScotlandsPeople have 615 John Wilsons born between 1750 and 1770 so quite >> a wide field to search >> >> Thanks, Nick >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=8N4j7NU6EpYNyk0Sqs4UWwgwe4cD5kCZjbDA2fjtrGY&s=o48MvaSj6cvTnwij5RqoJ08QgvIkgblDTc64MTkMvfU&e= >> Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ayrshire@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=8N4j7NU6EpYNyk0Sqs4UWwgwe4cD5kCZjbDA2fjtrGY&s=CnjFYlPFql91h-xXyHXkcUnpq-7uUGg-oqScpigzPzs&e= Terms and Conditions: >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=8N4j7NU6EpYNyk0Sqs4UWwgwe4cD5kCZjbDA2fjtrGY&s=Hx-84jqjD2OkrgW8wtMaeFfWcpxAUNYpZV1nD4h4Bq0&e= >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> community >> > > > -- > Debbie Rea > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=IKBb32Wh8PxoHffOMa971-VmpcX7uWNdp5m2NqPj2ic&s=H872BMOBYfsJb6GLe-aGI3dEy-bp719FpTm7sjBoAB8&e= > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ayrshire@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=IKBb32Wh8PxoHffOMa971-VmpcX7uWNdp5m2NqPj2ic&s=9izh3lW05R16Q9bERJRncsc-8gmW37Sj2MviG0mMk38&e= Terms and Conditions: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=IKBb32Wh8PxoHffOMa971-VmpcX7uWNdp5m2NqPj2ic&s=RUF0vRxhf-WIARKOkg_vMiGOcBYp6VMjPxisYTxOFTQ&e= > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi Nick (and others), I see several people have already commented that means he lived in the place - but may also indicate that he was not a craftmaster or a gentleman or such, as that's often stated - compare with other entries on the page. The other word often used is 'residenter'. Jenny On 08/09/2018 21:24, Nicholas Wilson wrote: > Hello, > > When a person declared to the authorities (i.e.Kirk) that he was an indweller what exactly was he saying? This refers to a youngish, married man with a young family in the 1770s in Cumnock who surely must have had a trade or a job. > > Thanks, > > Nick

1810 - 1830: "Thomas Wilson" Kilmarnock 25 hits 1810 - 1830: "John Wilson" Kilmarnock 25 hits Its a slim chance as the hits are from newspapers in Fife and Edinburgh - however you may just want to eliminate these possible sources. No Ayrshire newspapers from that period online as yet. 1730-1799: Boyd Kilmarnock gives 194 hits - lots of interesting articles there for the Boyd clan ... Earl of Kilmarnock, Richard Boyd, James Boyd, etc e.g. June 13, 1778 - Kentish Gazette - Canterbury, Kent, England "as the eldest son of William, late Earl of Kilmarnock, (beheaded for high treason, in 1746,) and then called Lord Boyd, by his wife Lady Anne, daughter of James, Earl of Linlithgow and Callandar, by his wife" Regards Stuart ________________________________ From: Mike Boyd <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> Sent: 13 September 2018 23:59 To: ayrshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [AYR] Re: JOHN WILSON, c.1760 -1820, Railway Surveyor involved in building the Kilmarnock & Troon Railway, Ayrshire Stuart How did it go in about 1820, when this John Wilson died. Being a surveyor for the railway, I am assuming that the Newspapers of the time did a write up of his death - and hopefully have given his parents and age at death, which may then allow Nick to look at the OPR's to get further details about him, etc Mike Boyd Brisbane -----Original Message----- From: Stuart Adam Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 11:49 AM To: Ayrshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [AYR] Re: JOHN WILSON, c.1760 -1820, Railway Surveyor involved in building the Kilmarnock & Troon Railway, Ayrshire I tried FindmyPast newspapers "John Wilson" Kilmarnock gets 11 hits 1750-1799 "Thomas Wilson" Kilmarnock gets 4 hits 1750-1799 It is painstaking work to trawl through these articles as copy is not always good, but there is a 1 in a 100 chance of finding something. I have had a couple of successes pre-1800 in Ayrshire newspapers online, both sequestrations. Regards Stuart ________________________________ From: Nicholas Wilson <wilsonnicholas90@gmail.com> Sent: 13 September 2018 18:23 To: Ayrshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [AYR] JOHN WILSON, c.1760 -1820, Railway Surveyor involved in building the Kilmarnock & Troon Railway, Ayrshire _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwICAw&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=xX1BJYnJw4g8-UoMOhu8I20_UDjChiSM82QzTO8VyGY&s=_m5WK4U_1vaUeP73L4zK9oOZYezuCLwXWjl30W06LgE&e= Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ayrshire@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwICAw&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=xX1BJYnJw4g8-UoMOhu8I20_UDjChiSM82QzTO8VyGY&s=-StB_FlvtkLquwXHT-JkzUn4WTmBxn6b1tDjnII0iwo&e= Terms and Conditions: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwICAw&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=xX1BJYnJw4g8-UoMOhu8I20_UDjChiSM82QzTO8VyGY&s=9SQ5JmmmVC9d4qkM24LUnh7HfPmbdY_7r4XppBANOq4&e= Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwIFAw&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=XJfRWt4X5phiErDULpe2hEYk0m1eGh32kh41nb4xgDo&s=mqfTieFaZBdfKgRqaruZ6N_fO00rkB0QdfeLzudCU28&e= Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ayrshire@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwIFAw&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=XJfRWt4X5phiErDULpe2hEYk0m1eGh32kh41nb4xgDo&s=mEvHtE2Wnx2YH3yqUx531ICSVfBjihUrAO2xhGC_PVA&e= Terms and Conditions: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwIFAw&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=XJfRWt4X5phiErDULpe2hEYk0m1eGh32kh41nb4xgDo&s=8K42V5fzaZcUJAkBZv_8XJig5hY4zBIGqK19vkb-QhM&e= Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Nick, where was your father born? On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 at 00:24, Nicholas Wilson <wilsonnicholas90@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > > After nearly twenty years of searching I am still trying to track down > the father of my railway building 2x great grandfather, Thomas, whose > father was a John Wilson. I am currently hoping to connect my Thomas, who > started life as a land surveyor , with the subject surveyor , who is said > to have died in 1820. The chances of the two men being related is remote > but it would help me if someone can share their knowledge of the subject > John Wilson with me. > > ScotlandsPeople have 615 John Wilsons born between 1750 and 1770 so quite > a wide field to search > > Thanks, Nick > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=8N4j7NU6EpYNyk0Sqs4UWwgwe4cD5kCZjbDA2fjtrGY&s=o48MvaSj6cvTnwij5RqoJ08QgvIkgblDTc64MTkMvfU&e= > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ayrshire@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=8N4j7NU6EpYNyk0Sqs4UWwgwe4cD5kCZjbDA2fjtrGY&s=CnjFYlPFql91h-xXyHXkcUnpq-7uUGg-oqScpigzPzs&e= Terms and Conditions: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=8N4j7NU6EpYNyk0Sqs4UWwgwe4cD5kCZjbDA2fjtrGY&s=Hx-84jqjD2OkrgW8wtMaeFfWcpxAUNYpZV1nD4h4Bq0&e= > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > -- Debbie Rea

Stuart How did it go in about 1820, when this John Wilson died. Being a surveyor for the railway, I am assuming that the Newspapers of the time did a write up of his death - and hopefully have given his parents and age at death, which may then allow Nick to look at the OPR's to get further details about him, etc Mike Boyd Brisbane -----Original Message----- From: Stuart Adam Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 11:49 AM To: Ayrshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [AYR] Re: JOHN WILSON, c.1760 -1820, Railway Surveyor involved in building the Kilmarnock & Troon Railway, Ayrshire I tried FindmyPast newspapers "John Wilson" Kilmarnock gets 11 hits 1750-1799 "Thomas Wilson" Kilmarnock gets 4 hits 1750-1799 It is painstaking work to trawl through these articles as copy is not always good, but there is a 1 in a 100 chance of finding something. I have had a couple of successes pre-1800 in Ayrshire newspapers online, both sequestrations. Regards Stuart ________________________________ From: Nicholas Wilson <wilsonnicholas90@gmail.com> Sent: 13 September 2018 18:23 To: Ayrshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [AYR] JOHN WILSON, c.1760 -1820, Railway Surveyor involved in building the Kilmarnock & Troon Railway, Ayrshire _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwICAw&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=xX1BJYnJw4g8-UoMOhu8I20_UDjChiSM82QzTO8VyGY&s=_m5WK4U_1vaUeP73L4zK9oOZYezuCLwXWjl30W06LgE&e= Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ayrshire@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwICAw&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=xX1BJYnJw4g8-UoMOhu8I20_UDjChiSM82QzTO8VyGY&s=-StB_FlvtkLquwXHT-JkzUn4WTmBxn6b1tDjnII0iwo&e= Terms and Conditions: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwICAw&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=xX1BJYnJw4g8-UoMOhu8I20_UDjChiSM82QzTO8VyGY&s=9SQ5JmmmVC9d4qkM24LUnh7HfPmbdY_7r4XppBANOq4&e= Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

I tried FindmyPast newspapers "John Wilson" Kilmarnock gets 11 hits 1750-1799 "Thomas Wilson" Kilmarnock gets 4 hits 1750-1799 It is painstaking work to trawl through these articles as copy is not always good, but there is a 1 in a 100 chance of finding something. I have had a couple of successes pre-1800 in Ayrshire newspapers online, both sequestrations. Regards Stuart ________________________________ From: Nicholas Wilson <wilsonnicholas90@gmail.com> Sent: 13 September 2018 18:23 To: Ayrshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [AYR] JOHN WILSON, c.1760 -1820, Railway Surveyor involved in building the Kilmarnock & Troon Railway, Ayrshire

Nick If your John Wilson was a surveyor on the Kilmarnock to Troon Railway, it may be that the Burns Centre Local Studies Library may have an folder on him - when prior to about 20 or 30 years they collected information on people within Ayrshire, when they have more staff. They may also have some work from one of the Ayrshire Societies, that used to publish Journals each year, that may have looked at such things as this. As the Duke of Portland, owned the Boyd's Kilmarnock Estate and developed these coal mines, it may be contained in papers relating to him or the Estate. But the staff should know, if it is or not. Lastly, I do not know the history of Kilmarnock Newspapers of 1820, but that may also be worth asking the Burns Centre about as well? Mike Boyd Brisbane -----Original Message----- From: Nicholas Wilson Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 9:23 AM To: Ayrshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [AYR] JOHN WILSON, c.1760 -1820, Railway Surveyor involved in building the Kilmarnock & Troon Railway, Ayrshire Hello, After nearly twenty years of searching I am still trying to track down the father of my railway building 2x great grandfather, Thomas, whose father was a John Wilson. I am currently hoping to connect my Thomas, who started life as a land surveyor , with the subject surveyor , who is said to have died in 1820. The chances of the two men being related is remote but it would help me if someone can share their knowledge of the subject John Wilson with me. ScotlandsPeople have 615 John Wilsons born between 1750 and 1770 so quite a wide field to search Thanks, Nick _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwICAw&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=Kdyybly1LlsSS9KR8B913bdS9NJtjsloMt-3kzldbTk&s=tD9iCaxEjaU4y4hB1aKc3flTsYTL_Vg1zgcX3I5BPV0&e= Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ayrshire@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwICAw&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=Kdyybly1LlsSS9KR8B913bdS9NJtjsloMt-3kzldbTk&s=Wn_VTR4RMW9mAJ_uhb9ISrMWpqfp3ic-yVu5EDmtBuI&e= Terms and Conditions: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwICAw&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=Kdyybly1LlsSS9KR8B913bdS9NJtjsloMt-3kzldbTk&s=a-3MHwJAMOScpy7yOtU4AAvXg_DAcEEKvh3P49RLCas&e= Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hello, After nearly twenty years of searching I am still trying to track down the father of my railway building 2x great grandfather, Thomas, whose father was a John Wilson. I am currently hoping to connect my Thomas, who started life as a land surveyor , with the subject surveyor , who is said to have died in 1820. The chances of the two men being related is remote but it would help me if someone can share their knowledge of the subject John Wilson with me. ScotlandsPeople have 615 John Wilsons born between 1750 and 1770 so quite a wide field to search Thanks, Nick

For some unknown reason my Email posting to the Boyd net list are either not going through or like the last one took some 11 and half hours after posting to come through, when the same message to the Ayrshire list only took 10 minutes. I will see how quickly this one takes. Mike Boyd -----Original Message----- From: Mike Boyd Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 8:00 AM To: Boyd List Subject: Re: [BOYD] Re: Did anyone go to the Mid - Tennessee Games on Saturday 8 September 2018 My copy of a very good 32 page Dean Road arrived on Monday 10 September - two days after the event that Mindy hosted at Nashville, TN on Saturday 8 September. If I had been living in Tennessee (or even Kentucky) and not in Brisbane, Australia about 12,000 miles away, perhaps this was early notice for the 2019 Games at Nashville. It did not help a first time convenor to get her feet under the table. And help from another experienced convenor has been denied to her, whom I assume at that time was only 90 miles away from these Games. And I would also suspect that he attended this Games with his lady friend form Glasgow, KY. Mike Boyd Brisbane # 423 -----Original Message----- From: Lauren Boyd McLachlan Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 2:34 AM To: Boyd List Subject: [BOYD] Re: Did anyone go to the Mid - Tennessee Games on Saturday 8 Septempter 2018 > > Mike Mindy posted to the groups on Facebook. Mindy is writing her report for the Winter issue of the Dean Road. Members of the House of Boyd Society will be able to read about the event when it is published in a couple of months. In each issue of the Dean Road there is a list of our appointed Convenors for a given area. There is also a list of games at which House of Boyd will host a tent, as well as who the host is. When there may be an appointment, or other change in Convenorship, between issues, a simple email through the Society channels will garner an answer to such questions. We are always happy to interact with those who are looking to visit our clan tent wherever the games may be. Yours Aye, Lauren Chair, Highland Games Committee President House of Boyd Society

I sent this message to the Boyd@rootsweb.com net list at 8.40 am this morning – for some reason it has not come through yet. Hopefully anyone affected on this list on SC and NC are quite safe and not swiming at present. Mike Boyd From: Mike Boyd Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 8:28 AM To: boyd@rootsweb.com Subject: Storn Florence gong to hit US east coast I saw on this morning TV news that there is a little class 4 storm about to hit SC and NC later today. And I assume it will affect those States up the east Coast of the USA as well in the coming days. I hope that all those living in low level areas have now moved to higher ground, taken your pets and a copy of your hard drive with your family tree as well so that all that hard work is not lost Good luck over the next few days Mike Boyd In sunny but dry Brisbane.

The Boyd are Norman and not Gaelic. Many modern people believe that the Boyds are Gaelic in origins but that is incorrect. They are Norman, just like the Stewarts who were their half-brother. Most Boyds believe that they stem from a single person - Simon. I am not quite sure if this is borne out with the Boyd DNA results that are currently available, where people talk about their RU–198 and an M 269 number results. Nor have I learnt enough about DNA to know what time period these results apply to. Or if some of these changes have occurred after the 1100’s. But Mr. J.H. Round, see his paper on the origin of the Stewarts in the Genealogists, N.S., xviii. 13 – (Where N.S. is New Series), says that Simon is the son of Aveline de Hesdin, dau of Ernulf de Hesdin, from her second marriage to Robert Fitz Walter, Sheriff of Norfolk, which was also his second marriage. This Robert had two sons, by his first marriage, which followed him as Sheriff’s of Norfolk. Round said that Robert Fitz Walter was living in 1136 but had died about 1146. While in The Scots Peerage, Vol. V, p137, ed. Sir James Balfour Paul, 1907, it says “Sir Robert Boyd, said to have been so called from the Celtic Boidh, signifying fair or yellow.” So, this use of this Gaelic word may have lead to this belief that the Boyds were Gaelic rather than Norman. A second area of confusion, that the Boyd name is Gaelic stems from the word Boidh. I think that Boidh is also the word for “Bute” the island in the Clyde River. A number of old writers have said the Boyds came from the island of Bute. Bute was not freed from Viking rule until 1263, after the Battle of Largs, so I would be very surprised if the descendants of the half brother of Walter, the High Stewart of Scotland would have been living in lands not controlled by the Scottish King. A number of Scottish text say that Simon went to Scotland with his half – brother Walter Fitz Alan, who King David made High Stewart of Scotland. As the King gave much of Renfrewshire to Walter, it has been assumed that this is where in Scotland that Simon also settled. It is known that the Boyd held the Barony of Gavan and Rysk on the border of Renfrewshire and Ayrshire – south west of Paisley. While there is reference to the Boyds having this Barony until the 1700’s it is not known when it was first given to them or if this was the home of Simon in the 1100’s. In 2018, it has not yet been learnt way this son of a Norman Sheriff, would not have used the normal naming pattern of being Simon Fitz Robert, but instead have used Boyd or Boidh. Although we know that the next four generations after Simon were all called (Sir) Robert Boyd. So, was this done to honour Simon’s father Robert Fitz Walter? The other strange think is that none of the Clan Boyd Chiefs were ever called Simon or Ernulf. I am uncertain as to what our DNA results are in terms of saying if Clan Boyd is Gaelic in origin or not, but, is fact Norman. Mike Boyd Chairman Historical Committee House of Boyd Society

you have helped me at times Mike!....Heather > On 10 September 2018 at 19:08 Mike Boyd wrote: > > > Heather > I have for quite some time thought it was an innkeeper or run a hotel, or > bar. > > But you get educated every day. > > Mike Boyd > > -----Original Message----- > From: Heather Grimwood > Sent: Sunday, September 9, 2018 1:33 PM > To: Nicholas Wilson ; ayrshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AYR] Re: A definition of INDWELLER in 18th Scotland > > that he lives in the town/village....best wishes from Heather in sunny > Dunedin New Zealand > > On 09 September 2018 at 08:24 Nicholas Wilson wrote: > > > Hello, > > When > > a person declared to the authorities (i.e.Kirk) that he was an indweller > > what exactly was he saying? This refers to a youngish, married man with a > > young family in the 1770s in Cumnock who surely must have had a trade or a > > job. > > Thanks, > > Nick > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwICaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=n8DlVWvNb4bqJzBEBCjnd9x0_tDAkGUZs7qZLOpxgpU&s=AtswRhX_g28e3kflY6Ou65LM91OIu-USwSrRiGv7Z_8&e= > > > Unsubscribe > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ayrshire@rootsweb.com > Privacy > > Statement: > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwICaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=n8DlVWvNb4bqJzBEBCjnd9x0_tDAkGUZs7qZLOpxgpU&s=A > 1YPI4vHZ_9RpTveID_imIV_6LqlFgcB6TK8L-CdiTk&e= Terms and Conditions: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwICaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=n8DlVWvNb4bqJzBEBCjnd9x0_tDAkGUZs7qZLOpxgpU&s=JUmzPhev069U5ZNWvpSSaSM2VhNPdIBkf44zl0wGxTY&e= > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by > Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwICAw&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=-eacdXCVjpZaXLEbqWmsFLBMe51YqH2WErNYIQKqjF0&s=6-Oh8cCqXbARj2t2TZ6yxtVxcPKoTI-7qlt_4aKcKQc&e= > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ayrshire@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwICAw&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=-eacdXCVjpZaXLEbqWmsFLBMe51YqH2WErNYIQKqjF0&s=W1CgefYggMy4P-3KeWBn-wAO6LXuO87V4Z-gRrIART8&e= Terms and Conditions: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwICAw&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=-eacdXCVjpZaXLEbqWmsFLBMe51YqH2WErNYIQKqjF0&s=a100JXc1uWVI0JGCuVz_yEDnQGGlwEVs5Tvvgw7MTB8&e= > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwICaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=VwT-Hyhs8GMbfXy1MExC1WoaznKjHKhNPkjxhRnDtBg&s=BwervrqlDaVm3671384lUIqbI6KWagUgBaGixvr5mAw&e= > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ayrshire@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwICaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=VwT-Hyhs8GMbfXy1MExC1WoaznKjHKhNPkjxhRnDtBg&s=tOWJ77VUvnxNYsJsH6sjm2Y7VZcyuHL_I5-K90HyjCo&e= Terms and Conditions: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwICaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=VwT-Hyhs8GMbfXy1MExC1WoaznKjHKhNPkjxhRnDtBg&s=PiGJeK5UHnNCceTXGmlIaIWjbSD4bcLgtDI9l71qKkM&e= > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Heather I have for quite some time thought it was an innkeeper or run a hotel, or bar. But you get educated every day. Mike Boyd -----Original Message----- From: Heather Grimwood Sent: Sunday, September 9, 2018 1:33 PM To: Nicholas Wilson ; ayrshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [AYR] Re: A definition of INDWELLER in 18th Scotland that he lives in the town/village....best wishes from Heather in sunny Dunedin New Zealand > On 09 September 2018 at 08:24 Nicholas Wilson wrote: > > > Hello, > > When > a person declared to the authorities (i.e.Kirk) that he was an indweller > what exactly was he saying? This refers to a youngish, married man with a > young family in the 1770s in Cumnock who surely must have had a trade or a > job. > > Thanks, > > Nick > > > _______________________________________________ > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwICaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=n8DlVWvNb4bqJzBEBCjnd9x0_tDAkGUZs7qZLOpxgpU&s=AtswRhX_g28e3kflY6Ou65LM91OIu-USwSrRiGv7Z_8&e= > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ayrshire@rootsweb.com > Privacy > Statement: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwICaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=n8DlVWvNb4bqJzBEBCjnd9x0_tDAkGUZs7qZLOpxgpU&s=A 1YPI4vHZ_9RpTveID_imIV_6LqlFgcB6TK8L-CdiTk&e= Terms and Conditions: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwICaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=n8DlVWvNb4bqJzBEBCjnd9x0_tDAkGUZs7qZLOpxgpU&s=JUmzPhev069U5ZNWvpSSaSM2VhNPdIBkf44zl0wGxTY&e= > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwICAw&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=-eacdXCVjpZaXLEbqWmsFLBMe51YqH2WErNYIQKqjF0&s=6-Oh8cCqXbARj2t2TZ6yxtVxcPKoTI-7qlt_4aKcKQc&e= Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ayrshire@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwICAw&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=-eacdXCVjpZaXLEbqWmsFLBMe51YqH2WErNYIQKqjF0&s=W1CgefYggMy4P-3KeWBn-wAO6LXuO87V4Z-gRrIART8&e= Terms and Conditions: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwICAw&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=-eacdXCVjpZaXLEbqWmsFLBMe51YqH2WErNYIQKqjF0&s=a100JXc1uWVI0JGCuVz_yEDnQGGlwEVs5Tvvgw7MTB8&e= Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Thanks to everyone on the list who has helped me better understand what an indweller was. I am still as frustrated as before because in so many of the old documents I am unable to find a clear idea of the man’s occupation, one of the keys I think, which make research more interesting Nick On Sep 8, 2018, at 1:24 PM, Nicholas Wilson <wilsonnicholas90@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hello, > > When a person declared to the authorities (i.e.Kirk) that he was an indweller what exactly was he saying? This refers to a youngish, married man with a young family in the 1770s in Cumnock who surely must have had a trade or a job. > > Thanks, > > Nick

I didn't realise that Kay so thanks for telling me. Regards, Debbie On Sun, 9 Sep 2018 at 19:11, Kay McMeekin <kmcmeekin@me.com> wrote: > Just to say the Baird Institute in Cumnock is now a museum. Records > formerly kept there are now at the Burns Monument Centre in Kilmarnock. > > Kay > Secretary Cumnock History Group > > > > > On 8 Sep 2018, at 21:52, Deborah Rea <deborah.rea94@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Mary, > > I just sent a message to Nick (on this site) about my going to the Baird > Museum in Cumnock next week (I'm in northern Ireland right now but now > living in England). I will also be looking at gravestones/monumental > inscriptions while there. Please take a look at > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__cumnockconnections.tribalpages.com&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=r9GYSFfatsBzz0QTWxHZWSL2HhpZA-BLJZrx3zfTKL4&s=MP2zfT29_49zSdGMghFpBbQsVgHpX5AbZ5UQdvl4gMw&e= > < > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__l.facebook.com_l.php-3Fu-3Dhttp-253A-252F-252Fcumnockconnections.tribalpages.com-252F-26h-3DAT2Wtwonyj0-2DYFBk0Q6ulvK-2D70vPPQaE3tKaEA3-2D5wvcUqJF4U4R5hS104v-2DZZ6W-2D1UEVOtntngk7RVi9YZGhiMy3iS8iw-2DpyrGfi26MpyUwGxcnkYYuk8aDYGuvqM0SHD5gtMWlTQYmpqGP4CxMY6sW12Q0jGZJ&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=r9GYSFfatsBzz0QTWxHZWSL2HhpZA-BLJZrx3zfTKL4&s=BKDM2EhxUo178o4Jnt0bBazmSQgYIbXr1cCfLN2jjl0&e= > > > - > which gives you other links to look at in Cumnock area. > > As I said to Nick - if you can diary what you need researching I'd be happy > to research your information however I will need you to let me know by > Wednesday - otherwise, I'll never remember if you send stuff to me now. My > email address is deborah.rea94@gmail.com. > > Happy researching! > Debbie Rea > > > > O > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=gn58zuPC4EqM2CnU9-BICZs7y-g12e0M8ivQKj9S3bA&s=IrzEERAXBzAhd5vl3LZvSf96sUvsEjExtAFPkGIBLUQ&e= > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ayrshire@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=gn58zuPC4EqM2CnU9-BICZs7y-g12e0M8ivQKj9S3bA&s=RuWunSsZ7BXKbVjMgm-UPyxcpjKfaODMfK806QYQQ7g&e= Terms and Conditions: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=gn58zuPC4EqM2CnU9-BICZs7y-g12e0M8ivQKj9S3bA&s=OgZs1UXmBteAX-wxWl2RONum3tzj_EQEsjSHJ2JwiYA&e= > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com <http://ancestry.com/> and > our loyal RootsWeb community > > > -- Debbie Rea

Just to say the Baird Institute in Cumnock is now a museum. Records formerly kept there are now at the Burns Monument Centre in Kilmarnock. Kay Secretary Cumnock History Group > On 8 Sep 2018, at 21:52, Deborah Rea <deborah.rea94@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Mary, > > I just sent a message to Nick (on this site) about my going to the Baird > Museum in Cumnock next week (I'm in northern Ireland right now but now > living in England). I will also be looking at gravestones/monumental > inscriptions while there. Please take a look at > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__cumnockconnections.tribalpages.com&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=r9GYSFfatsBzz0QTWxHZWSL2HhpZA-BLJZrx3zfTKL4&s=MP2zfT29_49zSdGMghFpBbQsVgHpX5AbZ5UQdvl4gMw&e= <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__cumnockconnections.tribalpages.com&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=r9GYSFfatsBzz0QTWxHZWSL2HhpZA-BLJZrx3zfTKL4&s=MP2zfT29_49zSdGMghFpBbQsVgHpX5AbZ5UQdvl4gMw&e=> > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__l.facebook.com_l.php-3Fu-3Dhttp-253A-252F-252Fcumnockconnections.tribalpages.com-252F-26h-3DAT2Wtwonyj0-2DYFBk0Q6ulvK-2D70vPPQaE3tKaEA3-2D5wvcUqJF4U4R5hS104v-2DZZ6W-2D1UEVOtntngk7RVi9YZGhiMy3iS8iw-2DpyrGfi26MpyUwGxcnkYYuk8aDYGuvqM0SHD5gtMWlTQYmpqGP4CxMY6sW12Q0jGZJ&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=r9GYSFfatsBzz0QTWxHZWSL2HhpZA-BLJZrx3zfTKL4&s=BKDM2EhxUo178o4Jnt0bBazmSQgYIbXr1cCfLN2jjl0&e= <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__l.facebook.com_l.php-3Fu-3Dhttp-253A-252F-252Fcumnockconnections.tribalpages.com-252F-26h-3DAT2Wtwonyj0-2DYFBk0Q6ulvK-2D70vPPQaE3tKaEA3-2D5wvcUqJF4U4R5hS104v-2DZZ6W-2D1UEVOtntngk7RVi9YZGhiMy3iS8iw-2DpyrGfi26MpyUwGxcnkYYuk8aDYGuvqM0SHD5gtMWlTQYmpqGP4CxMY6sW12Q0jGZJ&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=r9GYSFfatsBzz0QTWxHZWSL2HhpZA-BLJZrx3zfTKL4&s=BKDM2EhxUo178o4Jnt0bBazmSQgYIbXr1cCfLN2jjl0&e=>> > - > which gives you other links to look at in Cumnock area. > > As I said to Nick - if you can diary what you need researching I'd be happy > to research your information however I will need you to let me know by > Wednesday - otherwise, I'll never remember if you send stuff to me now. My > email address is deborah.rea94@gmail.com <mailto:deborah.rea94@gmail.com>. > > Happy researching! > Debbie Rea > > > > O > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwIFAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=o9xPgNCuUwg-QBTpylQGlPvNafNTWFaS52h94af6aFs&s=k2HIeBOAyU3m06bZUkNJH0sDgP8vWictkie9ZEyx1iE&e= <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwIFAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=o9xPgNCuUwg-QBTpylQGlPvNafNTWFaS52h94af6aFs&s=k2HIeBOAyU3m06bZUkNJH0sDgP8vWictkie9ZEyx1iE&e=> > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ayrshire@rootsweb.com <https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ayrshire@rootsweb.com> > Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwIFAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=o9xPgNCuUwg-QBTpylQGlPvNafNTWFaS52h94af6aFs&s=Jbx23OXiCjFoQSWu_e3JOzqZZOyIygN996HqNMhav-I&e= <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwIFAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=o9xPgNCuUwg-QBTpylQGlPvNafNTWFaS52h94af6aFs&s=Jbx23OXiCjFoQSWu_e3JOzqZZOyIygN996HqNMhav-I&e=> Terms and Conditions: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwIFAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=o9xPgNCuUwg-QBTpylQGlPvNafNTWFaS52h94af6aFs&s=wSxvsX94YYefDjoS2iWFmJrrGWEQxXev8FQN6Ljbm6Y&e= <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwIFAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=o9xPgNCuUwg-QBTpylQGlPvNafNTWFaS52h94af6aFs&s=wSxvsX94YYefDjoS2iWFmJrrGWEQxXev8FQN6Ljbm6Y&e=> > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog <http://rootsweb.blog/> > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com <http://ancestry.com/> and our loyal RootsWeb community

Thanks to all for information regarding Cumnock. I am getting it added to the Cumnock Connections tree. Please check out Cumnock History Group’s site too for a wealth of information and photographs. Kay Secretary cumnockhistorygroup.org

Hi Nick and fellow researchers, If the context in which 'indweller' is mentioned relates to parish records, then it has a particular significance for entitlement to poor relief. Explanations NRS: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.nrscotland.gov.uk_research_guides_&d=DwIFAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=FimvDYS4OSCjqksHSL76ypLc42dxjZkxLNYnG5HuKb4&s=6JUSzatHxz095fflK7xuMmHqQ5tuHSCg61NmmAl5o5U&e=<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.nrscotland.gov.uk_research_guides_poor-2Drelief-2Drecords&d=DwIFAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=FimvDYS4OSCjqksHSL76ypLc42dxjZkxLNYnG5HuKb4&s=9DGSurAkphvIHx_dUJM17pEkvq8GwNbzIJfExQGa88w&e=> poor-relief-records<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.nrscotland.gov.uk_research_guides_poor-2Drelief-2Drecords&d=DwIFAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=FimvDYS4OSCjqksHSL76ypLc42dxjZkxLNYnG5HuKb4&s=9DGSurAkphvIHx_dUJM17pEkvq8GwNbzIJfExQGa88w&e=> Scan knowledge base: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.scan.org.uk_knowledgebase_topics_poorrelief.htm&d=DwIFAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=FimvDYS4OSCjqksHSL76ypLc42dxjZkxLNYnG5HuKb4&s=nOPcEfQB8Z8qCKVNEnEUuIhEuQrazDne8Ty5nHJk_QU&e= Best wishes, Kay Edinburgh Get Outlook for Android<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__aka.ms_ghei36&d=DwIFAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=FimvDYS4OSCjqksHSL76ypLc42dxjZkxLNYnG5HuKb4&s=_jN618oEJafWfspgqrIUms9Ma-PxqrJW1-73d7pqePQ&e=> ________________________________ From: Kay Williams <williams_kay@outlook.com> Sent: Saturday, September 8, 2018 9:41:23 PM To: ayrshire@rootsweb.com Cc: wilsonnicholas90@gmail.com Subject: Indweller Hi Nick, Just means dwelled in: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.dsl.ac.uk_entry_snd_indwell&d=DwIFAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=FimvDYS4OSCjqksHSL76ypLc42dxjZkxLNYnG5HuKb4&s=I7o7kLH9xUgRACUrOWIT4gKAHNIWLz5RtJ7Ds1oMgdE&e= So in context of parish records meant he lived in the parish in the place named. Best wishes, Kay Edinburgh Get Outlook for Android<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__aka.ms_ghei36&d=DwIFAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=FimvDYS4OSCjqksHSL76ypLc42dxjZkxLNYnG5HuKb4&s=_jN618oEJafWfspgqrIUms9Ma-PxqrJW1-73d7pqePQ&e=>

that he lives in the town/village....best wishes from Heather in sunny Dunedin New Zealand > On 09 September 2018 at 08:24 Nicholas Wilson wrote: > > > Hello, > > When a person declared to the authorities (i.e.Kirk) that he was an indweller what exactly was he saying? This refers to a youngish, married man with a young family in the 1770s in Cumnock who surely must have had a trade or a job. > > Thanks, > > Nick > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwICaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=n8DlVWvNb4bqJzBEBCjnd9x0_tDAkGUZs7qZLOpxgpU&s=AtswRhX_g28e3kflY6Ou65LM91OIu-USwSrRiGv7Z_8&e= > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ayrshire@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwICaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=n8DlVWvNb4bqJzBEBCjnd9x0_tDAkGUZs7qZLOpxgpU&s=A1YPI4vHZ_9RpTveID_imIV_6LqlFgcB6TK8L-CdiTk&e= Terms and Conditions: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwICaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=n8DlVWvNb4bqJzBEBCjnd9x0_tDAkGUZs7qZLOpxgpU&s=JUmzPhev069U5ZNWvpSSaSM2VhNPdIBkf44zl0wGxTY&e= > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community