Ruth I am not quite sure how many McCredie families there might be in Ayrshire - but this is one who married a Jean Boyd of Pitcon, Ayrshire in t the early 1700's 7/358 BOYD OF MACREDIE FAMILY OF PERCETON, AYRSHIRE (FOL. E, # 14) This is part of the Boyds of Pitcon. See version three of chapter 15 which is based on History of the Counties of Ayr and Wigton, Vol. III - Cunninghame, Part 1, James Paterson, 1866, p 188-189 Perceton, Ayrshire, now seems to be an eastern suburb of Irvine to its NE and between the B 769 Road and the Annick Water - about 3kms from Irvine. With Perceton House also marked in this suburban area. While Drummuir is about 7 1/2 kms to the SE of Perceton and would appear to still be an farm. In 1720 Sir Robert Barclay sold the nine pound land of old extent of Perceton, the fourty-six shilling lands of Drummuir, and the twenty shilling land of Righouse to Andrew Macredie, Provost of Stranraer. (Jean Boyd's father-in-law.) MacCreadie could or might be spelt as McCreadie. P1 Thomas Boyd, b / /165x ( ), d / /170x ( ), bu , m / /167x (church, town, county, etc), Agnes Scott, dau of and (nee ) Scott, b / /165x ( ), d / /17xx ( ), bu , and had issue:- [Lived: ] Q2? Jean Boyd, b / /170x ( ), d 27?/2/1770 ( ), bu , m / /172x (church, town county, etc), Andrew Macredie, son of Andrew Macredie of Perceton, b / /170x ( ), d /9/1764, ( ), bu , and had issue:- [Lived: ] - See Chapter 15, It does not state when Andrew succeeded his father Andrew Macredie. But I have no McKissock marriage in their descendants. But that may mean that Branch was not recorded in this family or it come from a separate McCredie family. Mike Boyd -----Original Message----- From: ruth.enns@shaw.ca Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 6:20 PM To: AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com Subject: [AYR] MCREADIE Someone mentioned McCREADIE, I lost the email. I have a Mary McCREADIE m to John McKISSOCK. Child: Agnes McKISSOCK m Matthew McCAW 14 Apr. 1792.OPR Perhaps this may be helpful to someone. I have more........ Ruth
I have a Mary McCreadie in my tree who m John McKissock.Colmonell, if interested. Ruth Sent from Ruth`s. iPad . > On Sep 16, 2018, at 8:09 AM, david.kinna--- via AYRSHIRE <ayrshire@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Hi > I have some photos of Mrs Mure Macredie's "Tea in the garden" , one of which is on my > website: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.kinnafamilies.co.uk&d=DwICAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=Us32gH9pUlRynH1ewL5fdigwnJSNyt3WwtkF8FFtvHI&s=ucQSf1kMzFcfEbYFSVVFgzQsE7uafr64AkuE86saXKw&e=. select: 'continue', 'continue', 'Early Family Photos'. > I would be interested to know who the other people are. > If you would like copies of other pictures let me know. > Regards > David > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwIFAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=IZS3lBwoSZ8Ztzz_GJql5QPWO8JWndFUliBYm00MvY0&s=-igqdVyJQnoAMeS6zIpWcGt47HnAAbnp9YxpzpF_zyQ&e= > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ayrshire@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwIFAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=IZS3lBwoSZ8Ztzz_GJql5QPWO8JWndFUliBYm00MvY0&s=q8s_S8WCG70-Cr3mwlyHlAUTfYfQlzMkJzmPMdKD3W0&e= Terms and Conditions: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwIFAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=IZS3lBwoSZ8Ztzz_GJql5QPWO8JWndFUliBYm00MvY0&s=gCbJzMCXhogzNfdq2aHTmSQUjnOY5MejTI-aCV3erVI&e= > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
Someone mentioned McCREADIE, I lost the email. I have a Mary McCREADIE m to John McKISSOCK. Child: Agnes McKISSOCK m Matthew McCAW 14 Apr. 1792.OPR Perhaps this may be helpful to someone. I have more........ Ruth readie m to John McKISSOCK
Hi I have some photos of Mrs Mure Macredie's "Tea in the garden" , one of which is on my website: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.kinnafamilies.co.uk&d=DwICAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=Us32gH9pUlRynH1ewL5fdigwnJSNyt3WwtkF8FFtvHI&s=ucQSf1kMzFcfEbYFSVVFgzQsE7uafr64AkuE86saXKw&e=. select: 'continue', 'continue', 'Early Family Photos'. I would be interested to know who the other people are. If you would like copies of other pictures let me know. Regards David
This is to thank the many people on this list who have provided me with good advice, leads, etc., in my search.. I have not given up but what I found so far in searching OPRs on ScotlandsPeople is not encouraging. I have, however, put my case to the family history centre in Kilmarnock and hope to have my answer after the week end. What did surprise me was finding that I had put pretty much the same question to RootsChat fifteen years ago when I first started my search. I had completely forgotten probably because my query had led nowhere. Again my thanks, and good hunting, Nick
Kay and other list members The books that I have seen at each of the three Ayrshire Local Studies Libraries are A4 page size, so appear to be separate set of publications. Hopefully through these sites that Kay has supplied and those held by the Local Studies Libraries can help to supply some of the data that Nick is searching for. [And be of benefit to others as well.] And do not forget to check f the Council may have a listing as well, or visit the Council office during your trip Mike Boyd -----Original Message----- From: Kay Williams Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2018 8:13 AM To: ayrshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [AYR] Monumental Inscriptions Hi folks, I notice there has been some discussion of projects which have transcribed Monumental Inscriptions (MIs). The Scottish Genealogical Society (SGS) claims to have the largest collection of MIs. Note that the SGS research library is entirely run by volunteers. The downloadable Black book contains details of all the SGS’s holdings relating to Scottish deaths and Scottish burials: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.scotsgenealogy.com_Library.aspx&d=DwIF-g&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=bHDfoPx8swR-0uck2QjZH5FAmsnsACanHbiviJhhnIY&s=cyUVpgB6e2Riq3T2qnKh8EvvngZvQXbb2XJOb6IfNZk&e= Some pre-1855 MIs were published as small A5 books, many edited by Alistair G. Beattie and Margaret H. Beattie in the 1980s. Other libraries sometimes have copies of these. The pre-1855 rule was that if a stone included a birth, marriage or death pre-1855 then all of the stone was recorded (otherwise it was not). A wide range of published lists of MIs are available from the SGS shop ( including one for Crosbie Kirkyard). The National Library of Scotland catalogue has a list of the published MIs it holds: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.nls.uk_family-2Dhistory_gravestones_inscriptions_&d=DwIF-g&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=bHDfoPx8swR-0uck2QjZH5FAmsnsACanHbiviJhhnIY&s=RlOYvSQOdUkivGdPqb3LzTs-xOSTRlwkOrzvvhvNPiY&e= For Ayrshire, Troon@Ayrshire F.H.S has published MIs for about 30 cemeteries – there is an index on their website. Many of these are available for purchase on a CD. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.troonayrshirefhs.org.uk_cumulative-2Dindex_&d=DwIF-g&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=bHDfoPx8swR-0uck2QjZH5FAmsnsACanHbiviJhhnIY&s=Ucx_FHpBCDnVsP2RCw_n_VmX0_CgtVhZ5aFFnJajBFw&e= Scottish Monumental Inscriptions photograph and transcribe stones (I’ve never used this, so don’t know what the service is like): https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__scottish-2Dmonumental-2Dinscriptions.com_collections_ayrshire-2Darea&d=DwIF-g&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=bHDfoPx8swR-0uck2QjZH5FAmsnsACanHbiviJhhnIY&s=gkkR1v0-A07f2B9vEzfwxn9OY0OMxubUtL4rEH_YvT8&e= The Glasgow and West of Scotland FHS has some MIs, catalogued online, and a shop. Their volunteers offer research assistance for distant members. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.gwsfhs.org.uk_&d=DwIF-g&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=bHDfoPx8swR-0uck2QjZH5FAmsnsACanHbiviJhhnIY&s=pjxa4J1aObuvrT6piL-mHnsc2k1E2AlEWkefhrGs2IY&e= The Mitchell Library (Glasgow’s public library) also has a collection of published MIs: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.glasgowfamilyhistory.org.uk_ExploreRecords_Pages_Monumental-2DInscriptions.aspx&d=DwIF-g&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=bHDfoPx8swR-0uck2QjZH5FAmsnsACanHbiviJhhnIY&s=Hydqq2MZ9LFPlZmzz2EmghyL1j5h76pTXPqb2WUbpG4&e= A small selection of graveyard recording projects is listed here, but this initiative doesn’t seem to be current: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.scottishgraveyards.org.uk_projects.shtml&d=DwIF-g&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=bHDfoPx8swR-0uck2QjZH5FAmsnsACanHbiviJhhnIY&s=oArZPcWq6RE3x7jhtDzedoehzh7HvPMhfQjEX3PBLSc&e= Best wishes, Kay Sent from Mail<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__go.microsoft.com_fwlink_-3FLinkId-3D550986&d=DwIF-g&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=bHDfoPx8swR-0uck2QjZH5FAmsnsACanHbiviJhhnIY&s=WxlaGsYUVJ8WmDlxxvqWligykmFzuhbfYJI1omjEXzM&e=> for Windows 10 _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwID-g&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=h4Aiz2RJlPZe7SMGicKzsZ_r4mKSNfAkdAPD4ZshreM&s=CUjumsKKcI-7pQMXkT1auCft3qL__FVMe6h_vN2QXLc&e= Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ayrshire@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwID-g&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=h4Aiz2RJlPZe7SMGicKzsZ_r4mKSNfAkdAPD4ZshreM&s=gqqU6wwVFEVDqRyatUOl-GMoLMnwTBwWv9ZR-g9LsF8&e= Terms and Conditions: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwID-g&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=h4Aiz2RJlPZe7SMGicKzsZ_r4mKSNfAkdAPD4ZshreM&s=KoVBprVxfTD-BHxMwnU3XzaZjuPNnibjdTmoOpWFitY&e= Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
Debbie and Nick All three Local Studies Libraries in Ayrshire have these books and the MI's then available to record. They also have a map of where each of those grave are in that Cemetery. If you are still in Ayrshire and have not gone home, you should be able to find them on the shelves. In about 2009 or 2010, I was in Irvine and found a Boyd Hunter grave, but when I went to Parish Church to find it, I could not. So the staff, in this case, actually rang the Council and they had some other maps and found the grave site. It had an inch or two of grass over this flat gravestone. The two workers cleared the grass of it. So I got my photo of it. You may also need to check if Churchyard is now "controlled" by the Council or not as well. Mike Boyd -----Original Message----- From: Deborah Rea Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2018 6:26 AM To: AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com Subject: [AYR] Re: JOHN WILSON, c.1760 -1820, Railway Surveyor involved in building the Kilmarnock & Troon Railway, Ayrshire I didn't know that the council had this make work program....hmm. Debbie Rea On Sat, 15 Sep 2018, 21:22 Mike Boyd, <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> wrote: > Nick > If these sources do not work, try the Local Studies Library at Ayr (Town) > - > South Ayrshire Council website - in the 1980's as a make work program, the > Ayrshire Councils (ad I assume other Scottish Counties) got the unemployed > to record the grave inscriptions and map all the Churchyards and > Cemeteries. > > So they should have what records are available for "Crosbie Kirkyard near > Troon" to tell you if this is where he is buried - especially now that his > date of death is "known". > > Mike Boyd > > -----Original Message----- > From: Deborah Rea > Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2018 10:34 PM > To: AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AYR] Re: JOHN WILSON, c.1760 -1820, Railway Surveyor involved in > building the Kilmarnock & Troon Railway, Ayrshire > > Nick - I just looked on the Memorials in Crosbie Cemetery and when I put > 'John Wilson' in it said the following: > No memorials found for John Wilson in Crosbie Cemetery & Church Yard. > Source: > > https://www.findagrave.com/cemetery/2464560/memorial-search?firstName=John&lastName=Wilson > . > > However I believe the Findagrave sites are probably only as good as the > person putting on the information. I know at some point I do need to go > to > the Troon grave yard (it's possible that some of my Shields were in Troon > before they went to Cumnock) so I can take a peek for your John Wilson as > well. Also the Troon Ayrshire Family History group appear to be quite > active. They can be contacted by email at info@troonayrshirefhs.org.uk. > > Looking under the Projects tab it says > "At present, a number of our members are transcribing some local newspaper > birth, marriage and death archives for the Carnegie Library in Ayr. We are > now working on the year 1851. Although the newspaper is the Ayr Advertiser > the births, marriages and deaths recorded took place all over the world > and > at many levels of society". "We have just completed work on the fifth > volume of the AIRSHIRE NEWS which covers the period January 1831 to > November 1840 (See our publications page). This is transcribed from the > notes of local Troon historian, the late Walter W. Clearie who searched > the > local newspapers of the time and extracted items of interest, mainly > concerning Troon and its surrounding area but also sometimes of national > importance". > > Debbie > > > > On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 at 09:48, Mike Boyd <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> wrote: > > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=erpf0pKE7vXHo0CKQmweSMC_ikNb9qRd7kyma0ob6Ao&s=GEifTUTP48BQrdHn6p9YflXkRSIghmLUN6yqZBeYujc&e= > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ayrshire@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=erpf0pKE7vXHo0CKQmweSMC_ikNb9qRd7kyma0ob6Ao&s=utm7JW_CRtM4DGKHzvMM40kuCzeJ1BbjuuwVFHNABk4&e= > Terms and Conditions: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=erpf0pKE7vXHo0CKQmweSMC_ikNb9qRd7kyma0ob6Ao&s=_pMIPQAilUr95IaYnE7H7D0_h1rMqifa2xEZG4o0wxg&e= > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwICAw&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=rcn38fVeP89Ii1E28zH3tjMeK3AN0WqgYOuVGVpPQCA&s=SqFKzgVvdbH8pBUH396yz-6UcxqONooCAvewq7cHfK0&e= Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ayrshire@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwICAw&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=rcn38fVeP89Ii1E28zH3tjMeK3AN0WqgYOuVGVpPQCA&s=b4--cwGgEKxGtq6178r5F75tET70HXJx7cLOufAzQGI&e= Terms and Conditions: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwICAw&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=rcn38fVeP89Ii1E28zH3tjMeK3AN0WqgYOuVGVpPQCA&s=Y33e4VW4BEDTzMFuP0Kx3rXpb5eXJh-0PQ5fz5EQPbc&e= Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
Hi folks, I notice there has been some discussion of projects which have transcribed Monumental Inscriptions (MIs). The Scottish Genealogical Society (SGS) claims to have the largest collection of MIs. Note that the SGS research library is entirely run by volunteers. The downloadable Black book contains details of all the SGS’s holdings relating to Scottish deaths and Scottish burials: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.scotsgenealogy.com_Library.aspx&d=DwIF-g&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=bHDfoPx8swR-0uck2QjZH5FAmsnsACanHbiviJhhnIY&s=cyUVpgB6e2Riq3T2qnKh8EvvngZvQXbb2XJOb6IfNZk&e= Some pre-1855 MIs were published as small A5 books, many edited by Alistair G. Beattie and Margaret H. Beattie in the 1980s. Other libraries sometimes have copies of these. The pre-1855 rule was that if a stone included a birth, marriage or death pre-1855 then all of the stone was recorded (otherwise it was not). A wide range of published lists of MIs are available from the SGS shop ( including one for Crosbie Kirkyard). The National Library of Scotland catalogue has a list of the published MIs it holds: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.nls.uk_family-2Dhistory_gravestones_inscriptions_&d=DwIF-g&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=bHDfoPx8swR-0uck2QjZH5FAmsnsACanHbiviJhhnIY&s=RlOYvSQOdUkivGdPqb3LzTs-xOSTRlwkOrzvvhvNPiY&e= For Ayrshire, Troon@Ayrshire F.H.S has published MIs for about 30 cemeteries – there is an index on their website. Many of these are available for purchase on a CD. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.troonayrshirefhs.org.uk_cumulative-2Dindex_&d=DwIF-g&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=bHDfoPx8swR-0uck2QjZH5FAmsnsACanHbiviJhhnIY&s=Ucx_FHpBCDnVsP2RCw_n_VmX0_CgtVhZ5aFFnJajBFw&e= Scottish Monumental Inscriptions photograph and transcribe stones (I’ve never used this, so don’t know what the service is like): https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__scottish-2Dmonumental-2Dinscriptions.com_collections_ayrshire-2Darea&d=DwIF-g&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=bHDfoPx8swR-0uck2QjZH5FAmsnsACanHbiviJhhnIY&s=gkkR1v0-A07f2B9vEzfwxn9OY0OMxubUtL4rEH_YvT8&e= The Glasgow and West of Scotland FHS has some MIs, catalogued online, and a shop. Their volunteers offer research assistance for distant members. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.gwsfhs.org.uk_&d=DwIF-g&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=bHDfoPx8swR-0uck2QjZH5FAmsnsACanHbiviJhhnIY&s=pjxa4J1aObuvrT6piL-mHnsc2k1E2AlEWkefhrGs2IY&e= The Mitchell Library (Glasgow’s public library) also has a collection of published MIs: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.glasgowfamilyhistory.org.uk_ExploreRecords_Pages_Monumental-2DInscriptions.aspx&d=DwIF-g&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=bHDfoPx8swR-0uck2QjZH5FAmsnsACanHbiviJhhnIY&s=Hydqq2MZ9LFPlZmzz2EmghyL1j5h76pTXPqb2WUbpG4&e= A small selection of graveyard recording projects is listed here, but this initiative doesn’t seem to be current: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.scottishgraveyards.org.uk_projects.shtml&d=DwIF-g&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=bHDfoPx8swR-0uck2QjZH5FAmsnsACanHbiviJhhnIY&s=oArZPcWq6RE3x7jhtDzedoehzh7HvPMhfQjEX3PBLSc&e= Best wishes, Kay Sent from Mail<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__go.microsoft.com_fwlink_-3FLinkId-3D550986&d=DwIF-g&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=bHDfoPx8swR-0uck2QjZH5FAmsnsACanHbiviJhhnIY&s=WxlaGsYUVJ8WmDlxxvqWligykmFzuhbfYJI1omjEXzM&e=> for Windows 10
I didn't know that the council had this make work program....hmm. Debbie Rea On Sat, 15 Sep 2018, 21:22 Mike Boyd, <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> wrote: > Nick > If these sources do not work, try the Local Studies Library at Ayr (Town) > - > South Ayrshire Council website - in the 1980's as a make work program, the > Ayrshire Councils (ad I assume other Scottish Counties) got the unemployed > to record the grave inscriptions and map all the Churchyards and > Cemeteries. > > So they should have what records are available for "Crosbie Kirkyard near > Troon" to tell you if this is where he is buried - especially now that his > date of death is "known". > > Mike Boyd > > -----Original Message----- > From: Deborah Rea > Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2018 10:34 PM > To: AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AYR] Re: JOHN WILSON, c.1760 -1820, Railway Surveyor involved in > building the Kilmarnock & Troon Railway, Ayrshire > > Nick - I just looked on the Memorials in Crosbie Cemetery and when I put > 'John Wilson' in it said the following: > No memorials found for John Wilson in Crosbie Cemetery & Church Yard. > Source: > > https://www.findagrave.com/cemetery/2464560/memorial-search?firstName=John&lastName=Wilson > . > > However I believe the Findagrave sites are probably only as good as the > person putting on the information. I know at some point I do need to go to > the Troon grave yard (it's possible that some of my Shields were in Troon > before they went to Cumnock) so I can take a peek for your John Wilson as > well. Also the Troon Ayrshire Family History group appear to be quite > active. They can be contacted by email at info@troonayrshirefhs.org.uk. > > Looking under the Projects tab it says > "At present, a number of our members are transcribing some local newspaper > birth, marriage and death archives for the Carnegie Library in Ayr. We are > now working on the year 1851. Although the newspaper is the Ayr Advertiser > the births, marriages and deaths recorded took place all over the world and > at many levels of society". "We have just completed work on the fifth > volume of the AIRSHIRE NEWS which covers the period January 1831 to > November 1840 (See our publications page). This is transcribed from the > notes of local Troon historian, the late Walter W. Clearie who searched the > local newspapers of the time and extracted items of interest, mainly > concerning Troon and its surrounding area but also sometimes of national > importance". > > Debbie > > > > On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 at 09:48, Mike Boyd <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> wrote: > > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=erpf0pKE7vXHo0CKQmweSMC_ikNb9qRd7kyma0ob6Ao&s=GEifTUTP48BQrdHn6p9YflXkRSIghmLUN6yqZBeYujc&e= > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ayrshire@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=erpf0pKE7vXHo0CKQmweSMC_ikNb9qRd7kyma0ob6Ao&s=utm7JW_CRtM4DGKHzvMM40kuCzeJ1BbjuuwVFHNABk4&e= Terms and Conditions: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=erpf0pKE7vXHo0CKQmweSMC_ikNb9qRd7kyma0ob6Ao&s=_pMIPQAilUr95IaYnE7H7D0_h1rMqifa2xEZG4o0wxg&e= > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >
Nick If these sources do not work, try the Local Studies Library at Ayr (Town) - South Ayrshire Council website - in the 1980's as a make work program, the Ayrshire Councils (ad I assume other Scottish Counties) got the unemployed to record the grave inscriptions and map all the Churchyards and Cemeteries. So they should have what records are available for "Crosbie Kirkyard near Troon" to tell you if this is where he is buried - especially now that his date of death is "known". Mike Boyd -----Original Message----- From: Deborah Rea Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2018 10:34 PM To: AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com Subject: [AYR] Re: JOHN WILSON, c.1760 -1820, Railway Surveyor involved in building the Kilmarnock & Troon Railway, Ayrshire Nick - I just looked on the Memorials in Crosbie Cemetery and when I put 'John Wilson' in it said the following: No memorials found for John Wilson in Crosbie Cemetery & Church Yard. Source: https://www.findagrave.com/cemetery/2464560/memorial-search?firstName=John&lastName=Wilson . However I believe the Findagrave sites are probably only as good as the person putting on the information. I know at some point I do need to go to the Troon grave yard (it's possible that some of my Shields were in Troon before they went to Cumnock) so I can take a peek for your John Wilson as well. Also the Troon Ayrshire Family History group appear to be quite active. They can be contacted by email at info@troonayrshirefhs.org.uk. Looking under the Projects tab it says "At present, a number of our members are transcribing some local newspaper birth, marriage and death archives for the Carnegie Library in Ayr. We are now working on the year 1851. Although the newspaper is the Ayr Advertiser the births, marriages and deaths recorded took place all over the world and at many levels of society". "We have just completed work on the fifth volume of the AIRSHIRE NEWS which covers the period January 1831 to November 1840 (See our publications page). This is transcribed from the notes of local Troon historian, the late Walter W. Clearie who searched the local newspapers of the time and extracted items of interest, mainly concerning Troon and its surrounding area but also sometimes of national importance". Debbie On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 at 09:48, Mike Boyd <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> wrote:
Nick - I just looked on the Memorials in Crosbie Cemetery and when I put 'John Wilson' in it said the following: No memorials found for John Wilson in Crosbie Cemetery & Church Yard. Source: https://www.findagrave.com/cemetery/2464560/memorial-search?firstName=John&lastName=Wilson . However I believe the Findagrave sites are probably only as good as the person putting on the information. I know at some point I do need to go to the Troon grave yard (it's possible that some of my Shields were in Troon before they went to Cumnock) so I can take a peek for your John Wilson as well. Also the Troon Ayrshire Family History group appear to be quite active. They can be contacted by email at info@troonayrshirefhs.org.uk. Looking under the Projects tab it says "At present, a number of our members are transcribing some local newspaper birth, marriage and death archives for the Carnegie Library in Ayr. We are now working on the year 1851. Although the newspaper is the Ayr Advertiser the births, marriages and deaths recorded took place all over the world and at many levels of society". "We have just completed work on the fifth volume of the AIRSHIRE NEWS which covers the period January 1831 to November 1840 (See our publications page). This is transcribed from the notes of local Troon historian, the late Walter W. Clearie who searched the local newspapers of the time and extracted items of interest, mainly concerning Troon and its surrounding area but also sometimes of national importance". Debbie On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 at 09:48, Mike Boyd <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> wrote: > Nick > It got the better of me and I have just googled "John Wilson , surveyor, > Kilmarnock to Troon Railway" > > One site said > > "the surveyor John Wilson (who eventually came to manage both the railway > and Troon Harbour, and is buried at Crosbie Kirkyard near Troon)" But did > not give a date, but this would mean that you will have to contact the > South > Ayrshire Library at Ayr Town for details. > > Another said he died in 1840 > > and a third gave this > > said this John Wilson died on 17 April 1840 at Kilmarnock (This might > allow > to you see if there is any OPR records or death certificate or Newspaper > story of that date or during the week after.) > > So it looks like there more information on him. > > Mike Boyd > > -----Original Message----- > From: ruth.enns@shaw.ca > Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2018 5:28 PM > To: ayrshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AYR] Re: JOHN WILSON, c.1760 -1820, Railway Surveyor involved in > building the Kilmarnock & Troon Railway, Ayrshire > > Try going thru the RR! Lots of photos on GOOGLE! > > Ruth > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stuart Adam > Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 5:28 AM > To: ayrshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AYR] Re: JOHN WILSON, c.1760 -1820, Railway Surveyor involved in > building the Kilmarnock & Troon Railway, Ayrshire > > 1810 - 1830: "Thomas Wilson" Kilmarnock 25 hits > > 1810 - 1830: "John Wilson" Kilmarnock 25 hits > > Its a slim chance as the hits are from newspapers in Fife and Edinburgh - > however you may just want to eliminate these possible sources. No Ayrshire > newspapers from that period online as yet. > > 1730-1799: Boyd Kilmarnock gives 194 hits - lots of interesting articles > there for the Boyd clan ... Earl of Kilmarnock, Richard Boyd, James Boyd, > etc e.g. > > June 13, 1778 - Kentish Gazette - Canterbury, Kent, England > > "as the eldest son of William, late Earl of Kilmarnock, (beheaded for high > treason, in 1746,) and then called Lord Boyd, by his wife Lady Anne, > daughter of James, Earl of Linlithgow and Callandar, by his wife" > > Regards > Stuart > > > > ________________________________ > From: Mike Boyd <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> > Sent: 13 September 2018 23:59 > To: ayrshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AYR] Re: JOHN WILSON, c.1760 -1820, Railway Surveyor involved in > building the Kilmarnock & Troon Railway, Ayrshire > > Stuart > > How did it go in about 1820, when this John Wilson died. Being a surveyor > for the railway, I am assuming that the Newspapers of the time did a write > up of his death - and hopefully have given his parents and age at death, > which may then allow Nick to look at the OPR's to get further details about > him, etc > > Mike Boyd > Brisbane > -----Original Message----- > From: Stuart Adam > Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 11:49 AM > To: Ayrshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AYR] Re: JOHN WILSON, c.1760 -1820, Railway Surveyor involved in > building the Kilmarnock & Troon Railway, Ayrshire > > I tried FindmyPast newspapers > > "John Wilson" Kilmarnock gets 11 hits 1750-1799 > > "Thomas Wilson" Kilmarnock gets 4 hits 1750-1799 > > > It is painstaking work to trawl through these articles as copy is not > always > good, but there is a 1 in a 100 chance of finding something. > > > I have had a couple of successes pre-1800 in Ayrshire newspapers online, > both sequestrations. > > > Regards > > Stuart > > ________________________________ > From: Nicholas 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If RR does not work try RR surveyors of the time & place. you are getting WARM! See trains on GOOGLE! Ruth -----Original Message----- From: Mike Boyd Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2018 1:48 AM To: ayrshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [AYR] Re: JOHN WILSON, c.1760 -1820, Railway Surveyor involved in building the Kilmarnock & Troon Railway, Ayrshire Nick It got the better of me and I have just googled "John Wilson , surveyor, Kilmarnock to Troon Railway" One site said "the surveyor John Wilson (who eventually came to manage both the railway and Troon Harbour, and is buried at Crosbie Kirkyard near Troon)" But did not give a date, but this would mean that you will have to contact the South Ayrshire Library at Ayr Town for details. Another said he died in 1840 and a third gave this said this John Wilson died on 17 April 1840 at Kilmarnock (This might allow to you see if there is any OPR records or death certificate or Newspaper story of that date or during the week after.) So it looks like there more information on him. Mike Boyd -----Original Message----- From: ruth.enns@shaw.ca Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2018 5:28 PM To: ayrshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [AYR] Re: JOHN WILSON, c.1760 -1820, Railway Surveyor involved in building the Kilmarnock & Troon Railway, Ayrshire Try going thru the RR! Lots of photos on GOOGLE! Ruth -----Original Message----- From: Stuart Adam Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 5:28 AM To: ayrshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [AYR] Re: JOHN WILSON, c.1760 -1820, Railway Surveyor involved in building the Kilmarnock & Troon Railway, Ayrshire 1810 - 1830: "Thomas Wilson" Kilmarnock 25 hits 1810 - 1830: "John Wilson" Kilmarnock 25 hits Its a slim chance as the hits are from newspapers in Fife and Edinburgh - however you may just want to eliminate these possible sources. No Ayrshire newspapers from that period online as yet. 1730-1799: Boyd Kilmarnock gives 194 hits - lots of interesting articles there for the Boyd clan ... Earl of Kilmarnock, Richard Boyd, James Boyd, etc e.g. June 13, 1778 - Kentish Gazette - Canterbury, Kent, England "as the eldest son of William, late Earl of Kilmarnock, (beheaded for high treason, in 1746,) and then called Lord Boyd, by his wife Lady Anne, daughter of James, Earl of Linlithgow and Callandar, by his wife" Regards Stuart ________________________________ From: Mike Boyd <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> Sent: 13 September 2018 23:59 To: ayrshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [AYR] Re: JOHN WILSON, c.1760 -1820, Railway Surveyor involved in building the Kilmarnock & Troon Railway, Ayrshire Stuart How did it go in about 1820, when this John Wilson died. Being a surveyor for the railway, I am assuming that the Newspapers of the time did a write up of his death - and hopefully have given his parents and age at death, which may then allow Nick to look at the OPR's to get further details about him, etc Mike Boyd Brisbane -----Original Message----- From: Stuart Adam Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 11:49 AM To: Ayrshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [AYR] Re: JOHN WILSON, c.1760 -1820, Railway Surveyor involved in building the Kilmarnock & Troon Railway, Ayrshire I tried FindmyPast newspapers "John Wilson" Kilmarnock gets 11 hits 1750-1799 "Thomas Wilson" Kilmarnock gets 4 hits 1750-1799 It is painstaking work to trawl through these articles as copy is not always good, but there is a 1 in a 100 chance of finding something. I have had a couple of successes pre-1800 in Ayrshire newspapers online, both sequestrations. 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Nick It got the better of me and I have just googled "John Wilson , surveyor, Kilmarnock to Troon Railway" One site said "the surveyor John Wilson (who eventually came to manage both the railway and Troon Harbour, and is buried at Crosbie Kirkyard near Troon)" But did not give a date, but this would mean that you will have to contact the South Ayrshire Library at Ayr Town for details. Another said he died in 1840 and a third gave this said this John Wilson died on 17 April 1840 at Kilmarnock (This might allow to you see if there is any OPR records or death certificate or Newspaper story of that date or during the week after.) So it looks like there more information on him. Mike Boyd -----Original Message----- From: ruth.enns@shaw.ca Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2018 5:28 PM To: ayrshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [AYR] Re: JOHN WILSON, c.1760 -1820, Railway Surveyor involved in building the Kilmarnock & Troon Railway, Ayrshire Try going thru the RR! Lots of photos on GOOGLE! Ruth -----Original Message----- From: Stuart Adam Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 5:28 AM To: ayrshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [AYR] Re: JOHN WILSON, c.1760 -1820, Railway Surveyor involved in building the Kilmarnock & Troon Railway, Ayrshire 1810 - 1830: "Thomas Wilson" Kilmarnock 25 hits 1810 - 1830: "John Wilson" Kilmarnock 25 hits Its a slim chance as the hits are from newspapers in Fife and Edinburgh - however you may just want to eliminate these possible sources. No Ayrshire newspapers from that period online as yet. 1730-1799: Boyd Kilmarnock gives 194 hits - lots of interesting articles there for the Boyd clan ... Earl of Kilmarnock, Richard Boyd, James Boyd, etc e.g. June 13, 1778 - Kentish Gazette - Canterbury, Kent, England "as the eldest son of William, late Earl of Kilmarnock, (beheaded for high treason, in 1746,) and then called Lord Boyd, by his wife Lady Anne, daughter of James, Earl of Linlithgow and Callandar, by his wife" Regards Stuart ________________________________ From: Mike Boyd <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> Sent: 13 September 2018 23:59 To: ayrshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [AYR] Re: JOHN WILSON, c.1760 -1820, Railway Surveyor involved in building the Kilmarnock & Troon Railway, Ayrshire Stuart How did it go in about 1820, when this John Wilson died. Being a surveyor for the railway, I am assuming that the Newspapers of the time did a write up of his death - and hopefully have given his parents and age at death, which may then allow Nick to look at the OPR's to get further details about him, etc Mike Boyd Brisbane -----Original Message----- From: Stuart Adam Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 11:49 AM To: Ayrshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [AYR] Re: JOHN WILSON, c.1760 -1820, Railway Surveyor involved in building the Kilmarnock & Troon Railway, Ayrshire I tried FindmyPast newspapers "John Wilson" Kilmarnock gets 11 hits 1750-1799 "Thomas Wilson" Kilmarnock gets 4 hits 1750-1799 It is painstaking work to trawl through these articles as copy is not always good, but there is a 1 in a 100 chance of finding something. I have had a couple of successes pre-1800 in Ayrshire newspapers online, both sequestrations. Regards Stuart ________________________________ From: Nicholas Wilson <wilsonnicholas90@gmail.com> Sent: 13 September 2018 18:23 To: Ayrshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [AYR] JOHN WILSON, c.1760 -1820, Railway Surveyor involved in building the Kilmarnock & Troon Railway, Ayrshire _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwICAw&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=xX1BJYnJw4g8-UoMOhu8I20_UDjChiSM82QzTO8VyGY&s=_m5WK4U_1vaUeP73L4zK9oOZYezuCLwXWjl30W06LgE&e= Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ayrshire@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwICAw&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=xX1BJYnJw4g8-UoMOhu8I20_UDjChiSM82QzTO8VyGY&s=-StB_FlvtkLquwXHT-JkzUn4WTmBxn6b1tDjnII0iwo&e= Terms and Conditions: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwICAw&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=xX1BJYnJw4g8-UoMOhu8I20_UDjChiSM82QzTO8VyGY&s=9SQ5JmmmVC9d4qkM24LUnh7HfPmbdY_7r4XppBANOq4&e= Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwIFAw&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=XJfRWt4X5phiErDULpe2hEYk0m1eGh32kh41nb4xgDo&s=mqfTieFaZBdfKgRqaruZ6N_fO00rkB0QdfeLzudCU28&e= Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ayrshire@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwIFAw&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=XJfRWt4X5phiErDULpe2hEYk0m1eGh32kh41nb4xgDo&s=mEvHtE2Wnx2YH3yqUx531ICSVfBjihUrAO2xhGC_PVA&e= Terms and Conditions: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwIFAw&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=XJfRWt4X5phiErDULpe2hEYk0m1eGh32kh41nb4xgDo&s=8K42V5fzaZcUJAkBZv_8XJig5hY4zBIGqK19vkb-QhM&e= Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwICAw&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=TGulMZCpAkUecFHdm4TDpSguSp-k_BAYtj1UwHlmcxs&s=VvAItCS2eTS4sH9R_ODONpil4JLCRS44bvSXkPz-cHo&e= Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ayrshire@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwICAw&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=TGulMZCpAkUecFHdm4TDpSguSp-k_BAYtj1UwHlmcxs&s=465wWZid4anB6WikxropYU8fXSOx-9Qu0eXYOOdzkP0&e= Terms and Conditions: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwICAw&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=TGulMZCpAkUecFHdm4TDpSguSp-k_BAYtj1UwHlmcxs&s=x65p3Ne8ObjD0dlWc1H2Hwo5frRTSzYnTUv-uSvo7yI&e= Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwICAw&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=sCP_G3oSNBcibz_o193ieVqcfusr6GoEunwohZKfhGY&s=7kopr9W2Z0IlQQTWw1v6MYuF7kkVlifOlQbk362KBRU&e= Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ayrshire@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwICAw&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=sCP_G3oSNBcibz_o193ieVqcfusr6GoEunwohZKfhGY&s=k51xwJlQCFdDdmfj0_pU3lIoomObIBQ7srmeQij-QKA&e= Terms and Conditions: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwICAw&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=sCP_G3oSNBcibz_o193ieVqcfusr6GoEunwohZKfhGY&s=D93Z4eLd8-1vE0QmdjDY8-iheVQbFWgEHiDchmPv2TY&e= Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
Nick, I'm sure that you have looked at enough.Wikipedia.org/wiki/kilmsrnock_and-Troon-Railway#The_first_locomotive_in_Scotland. While I know that we shouldn't rely on Wikipedia the author does give a lot of references. One talks about the Kilmarnock & Troon Railway minutes - which has something to do with the Scottish Records. I have found my own Shields family originally from Stewarton in Cumnock, Ayrshire. This was a surprise. Some Shields also came from Troon and are also found in Cumnock. During the early 20th century mining continued to play an important part in the economic growth of the district with Baird & Dalmellington Ltd. being the main employers. Following on with this you would need coal for the trains and iron for the tracks. I will probably go the Burns Centre at some point as am here from England as I do every year. I will see if I can find something for you. Regards Debbie On Fri, 14 Sep 2018, 00:24 Nicholas Wilson, <wilsonnicholas90@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > > After nearly twenty years of searching I am still trying to track down > the father of my railway building 2x great grandfather, Thomas, whose > father was a John Wilson. I am currently hoping to connect my Thomas, who > started life as a land surveyor , with the subject surveyor , who is said > to have died in 1820. The chances of the two men being related is remote > but it would help me if someone can share their knowledge of the subject > John Wilson with me. > > ScotlandsPeople have 615 John Wilsons born between 1750 and 1770 so quite > a wide field to search > > Thanks, Nick > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=vsNX2UBbn9tUULV_Jil-b7X5kYUaD7pc0sDHEKQ5H0s&s=HZ7bwma6O_ApFmeyMXikVZCLb2WnrC8ud83NtwI8doQ&e= > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ayrshire@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=vsNX2UBbn9tUULV_Jil-b7X5kYUaD7pc0sDHEKQ5H0s&s=vo_optN6kEEN3fYB8sOmGR9jCCIb2c8glnq2GZCLM94&e= Terms and Conditions: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=vsNX2UBbn9tUULV_Jil-b7X5kYUaD7pc0sDHEKQ5H0s&s=iAzF-QolYKIBsbQDLAlUhFL3_XVR_VxrVwS9PhK0P3o&e= > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >
Try going thru the RR! Lots of photos on GOOGLE! Ruth -----Original Message----- From: Stuart Adam Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 5:28 AM To: ayrshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [AYR] Re: JOHN WILSON, c.1760 -1820, Railway Surveyor involved in building the Kilmarnock & Troon Railway, Ayrshire 1810 - 1830: "Thomas Wilson" Kilmarnock 25 hits 1810 - 1830: "John Wilson" Kilmarnock 25 hits Its a slim chance as the hits are from newspapers in Fife and Edinburgh - however you may just want to eliminate these possible sources. No Ayrshire newspapers from that period online as yet. 1730-1799: Boyd Kilmarnock gives 194 hits - lots of interesting articles there for the Boyd clan ... Earl of Kilmarnock, Richard Boyd, James Boyd, etc e.g. June 13, 1778 - Kentish Gazette - Canterbury, Kent, England "as the eldest son of William, late Earl of Kilmarnock, (beheaded for high treason, in 1746,) and then called Lord Boyd, by his wife Lady Anne, daughter of James, Earl of Linlithgow and Callandar, by his wife" Regards Stuart ________________________________ From: Mike Boyd <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> Sent: 13 September 2018 23:59 To: ayrshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [AYR] Re: JOHN WILSON, c.1760 -1820, Railway Surveyor involved in building the Kilmarnock & Troon Railway, Ayrshire Stuart How did it go in about 1820, when this John Wilson died. Being a surveyor for the railway, I am assuming that the Newspapers of the time did a write up of his death - and hopefully have given his parents and age at death, which may then allow Nick to look at the OPR's to get further details about him, etc Mike Boyd Brisbane -----Original Message----- From: Stuart Adam Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 11:49 AM To: Ayrshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [AYR] Re: JOHN WILSON, c.1760 -1820, Railway Surveyor involved in building the Kilmarnock & Troon Railway, Ayrshire I tried FindmyPast newspapers "John Wilson" Kilmarnock gets 11 hits 1750-1799 "Thomas Wilson" Kilmarnock gets 4 hits 1750-1799 It is painstaking work to trawl through these articles as copy is not always good, but there is a 1 in a 100 chance of finding something. I have had a couple of successes pre-1800 in Ayrshire newspapers online, both sequestrations. Regards Stuart ________________________________ From: Nicholas Wilson <wilsonnicholas90@gmail.com> Sent: 13 September 2018 18:23 To: Ayrshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [AYR] JOHN WILSON, c.1760 -1820, Railway Surveyor involved in building the Kilmarnock & Troon Railway, Ayrshire _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwICAw&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=xX1BJYnJw4g8-UoMOhu8I20_UDjChiSM82QzTO8VyGY&s=_m5WK4U_1vaUeP73L4zK9oOZYezuCLwXWjl30W06LgE&e= Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ayrshire@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwICAw&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=xX1BJYnJw4g8-UoMOhu8I20_UDjChiSM82QzTO8VyGY&s=-StB_FlvtkLquwXHT-JkzUn4WTmBxn6b1tDjnII0iwo&e= Terms and Conditions: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwICAw&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=xX1BJYnJw4g8-UoMOhu8I20_UDjChiSM82QzTO8VyGY&s=9SQ5JmmmVC9d4qkM24LUnh7HfPmbdY_7r4XppBANOq4&e= Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwIFAw&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=XJfRWt4X5phiErDULpe2hEYk0m1eGh32kh41nb4xgDo&s=mqfTieFaZBdfKgRqaruZ6N_fO00rkB0QdfeLzudCU28&e= Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ayrshire@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwIFAw&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=XJfRWt4X5phiErDULpe2hEYk0m1eGh32kh41nb4xgDo&s=mEvHtE2Wnx2YH3yqUx531ICSVfBjihUrAO2xhGC_PVA&e= Terms and Conditions: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwIFAw&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=XJfRWt4X5phiErDULpe2hEYk0m1eGh32kh41nb4xgDo&s=8K42V5fzaZcUJAkBZv_8XJig5hY4zBIGqK19vkb-QhM&e= Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwICAw&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=TGulMZCpAkUecFHdm4TDpSguSp-k_BAYtj1UwHlmcxs&s=VvAItCS2eTS4sH9R_ODONpil4JLCRS44bvSXkPz-cHo&e= Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ayrshire@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwICAw&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=TGulMZCpAkUecFHdm4TDpSguSp-k_BAYtj1UwHlmcxs&s=465wWZid4anB6WikxropYU8fXSOx-9Qu0eXYOOdzkP0&e= Terms and Conditions: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwICAw&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=TGulMZCpAkUecFHdm4TDpSguSp-k_BAYtj1UwHlmcxs&s=x65p3Ne8ObjD0dlWc1H2Hwo5frRTSzYnTUv-uSvo7yI&e= Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
Could you try to go thru the Kilmarnock & Troon RR files? ( even if the company changed their name ) I see several pictures on GOOGLE of this train. Surely there must be more information in the Ayrshire Research place you have been communicating with. . Perhaps you can get in the back door! Good luck!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ruth
Nick First task is to get one of your children to work for Air Canada. Do they fly from Vancouver to Glasgow, Scotland? That will get you cheap flights a few times a year. Before you contact the Burns Centre at Kilmarnock - they will only now do 30 minutes of research free, as I understand it - I am sure that the list can narrow down your John Wilson's from 615 to s much smaller number. So you know that - 1) he dies about 1820; 2) he was a Surveyor on the building of the Kilmarnock & Troon Railway (so that "should" mean that the Burns Centre have some information on him in either one of their Folders or in one of the published histories of Kilmarnock. So ask then this question first to see what data that might bring.) 3) Do you know his wife and her details? 4) You will know one of their children - your ancestor - so what details do you have on this son - birth and death and there location, where buried, wife etc 5) Do you know any of the other siblings names and details? While your John Wilson was not of the landed class, being a Surveyor, I assume he is in the upper middle class and would have left some foot prints. Although he could have had his own home, so that may mean that he could vote. Certainly much more than a farm labourer would have. Your other area of information is to go to rootsweb.com named site and look for the name Wilson and also join that site to parallel post information, so that you can find 4th, 5th or 6th cousins reserching another child of John Wilson or even his father's family. So by Christmas, I am sure that both net lists can get this list of 615 down to a number that can be looked at more closely. Mike Boyd -----Original Message----- From: Nicholas Wilson Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2018 7:21 AM To: ayrshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [AYR] Re: JOHN WILSON, c.1760 -1820, Railway Surveyor involved in building the Kilmarnock & Troon Railway, Ayrshire Wise words, Mike. Sadly I seem to have ended up generally speaking as a receiver rather then giver of valuable information. I have scads to share but have found very few people on line who are in need of what I have to share. I take this opportunity to thank those who guided me towards the Burns Historical Centre (sic). I see they offer wonderful research facilities to visitors but I am a long, long way away on the west coast of Canada. I shall write instead in the hope I can link up with a local researcher. With 615 John Wilsons born during that 20 year period I am not too optimistic about my chances of success. Nick > On Sep 14, 2018, at 1:28 PM, Mike Boyd <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> wrote: > > "If thou never ask a question, you will not find a connection" > > In my local area I am involved with two Genealogical Societies - one being > the parent of the other - and I never stop being amassed that people do > not know about the rootsweb.com system and the very large number of > people that think that people can read minds to answer their unspoken > questions. >
Wise words, Mike. Sadly I seem to have ended up generally speaking as a receiver rather then giver of valuable information. I have scads to share but have found very few people on line who are in need of what I have to share. I take this opportunity to thank those who guided me towards the Burns Historical Centre (sic). I see they offer wonderful research facilities to visitors but I am a long, long way away on the west coast of Canada. I shall write instead in the hope I can link up with a local researcher. With 615 John Wilsons born during that 20 year period I am not too optimistic about my chances of success. Nick > On Sep 14, 2018, at 1:28 PM, Mike Boyd <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> wrote: > > "If thou never ask a question, you will not find a connection" > > In my local area I am involved with two Genealogical Societies - one being the parent of the other - and I never stop being amassed that people do not know about the rootsweb.com system and the very large number of people that think that people can read minds to answer their unspoken questions. >
"If thou never ask a question, you will not find a connection" In my local area I am involved with two Genealogical Societies - one being the parent of the other - and I never stop being amassed that people do not know about the rootsweb.com system and the very large number of people that think that people can read minds to answer their unspoken questions. If you have a brick wall, "It is you that needs to ask the question/s" and not wait for someone that might post something about your family. I assume that there are several hundreds of people (or thousands) on this list. So when you post you are taking out a 'ad" in the "London Times" or "New york times" and telling others "I have a problem" or "I need some help to find some information" as Nick is currently doing with his family. I am on several net list, but this one is one of the better lists in people helping others to build their "onion" or Family Tree. I assume Debbie's Mr Wilson did not go to India!! I hope that Kilmarnock has had some rain, it would be a great pity to see if brown like Australia. At present we have some 60% of Queensland that is in drought and the whole of New South Wales. With western parts of Queensland not having seen any rain for about 6 or so years. Mike Boyd -----Original Message----- From: Nicholas Wilson Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2018 5:47 AM To: ayrshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [AYR] Re: JOHN WILSON, c.1760 -1820, Railway Surveyor involved in building the Kilmarnock & Troon Railway, Ayrshire I know the feeling. Grasping at straws. So far never found one to support me! Nick > On Sep 14, 2018, at 10:29 AM, Deborah Rea <deborah.rea94@gmail.com> wrote: > > Definiately not Nick! > > On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 at 16:41, Nicholas Wilson <wilsonnicholas90@gmail.com > <mailto:wilsonnicholas90@gmail.com>> > wrote: > >> My father was born in Dharamsala in northern India where his father was >> serving as a IMS officer in the King Edward’s 1st Gurkhas. the fourth in >> the Wilson line to serve and live in that country starting with Thomas >> Wilson who died in Meerut in 1867. >> >> Maybe this is not the answer you were expecting >> >> >> Nick >> >> iOn Sep 14, 2018, at 12:57 AM, Deborah Rea <deborah.rea94@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> Nick, where was your father born? >>>
I know the feeling. Grasping at straws. So far never found one to support me! Nick > On Sep 14, 2018, at 10:29 AM, Deborah Rea <deborah.rea94@gmail.com> wrote: > > Definiately not Nick! > > On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 at 16:41, Nicholas Wilson <wilsonnicholas90@gmail.com <mailto:wilsonnicholas90@gmail.com>> > wrote: > >> My father was born in Dharamsala in northern India where his father was >> serving as a IMS officer in the King Edward’s 1st Gurkhas. the fourth in >> the Wilson line to serve and live in that country starting with Thomas >> Wilson who died in Meerut in 1867. >> >> Maybe this is not the answer you were expecting >> >> >> Nick >> >> iOn Sep 14, 2018, at 12:57 AM, Deborah Rea <deborah.rea94@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> Nick, where was your father born? >>> >>> On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 at 00:24, Nicholas Wilson < >> wilsonnicholas90@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> After nearly twenty years of searching I am still trying to track down >>>> the father of my railway building 2x great grandfather, Thomas, whose >>>> father was a John Wilson. I am currently hoping to connect my Thomas, >> who >>>> started life as a land surveyor , with the subject surveyor , who is >> said >>>> to have died in 1820. The chances of the two men being related is remote >>>> but it would help me if someone can share their knowledge of the subject >>>> John Wilson with me. >>>> >>>> ScotlandsPeople have 615 John Wilsons born between 1750 and 1770 so >> quite >>>> a wide field to search >>>> >>>> Thanks, Nick >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Email preferences: >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=s5xK7ELKNd7KGtt7vYMJnRxn4W6Uq6VFZPGtQ70kG2w&m=8N4j7NU6EpYNyk0Sqs4UWwgwe4cD5kCZjbDA2fjtrGY&s=o48MvaSj6cvTnwij5RqoJ08QgvIkgblDTc64MTkMvfU&e= >>>> Unsubscribe >>>> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ayrshire@rootsweb.com >>>> Privacy Statement: >> 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