--- On Sat, 7/17/10, two_shoes <two_shoes@comcast.net> wrote: > I'm looking for the marriage of > Thomas BROWN, born 1830/31 in Scotland > (to John Brown and Jean/Jane).  He married Elizabeth > (don't know her > maiden name - maybe McCAW).  They were married in the > late 1840s or in > the 1850s -- perhaps in Kilmarnock (but maybe in Boston MA, > USA). Cecilia: I see a Thomas Brown married to Eliza M or N Crawford in April 1850 in Boston, both born Scotland. Problem: Saying Boston could mean within 15 miles or more--they could have been married in a hamlet anywhere near Boston. Have you checked the 1850 Census OR better yet, where their first child was born? Boston?? Birth records might give a better maiden name option. That said, I didn't notice parents' names listed on index. :(

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Cathy_Silver Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14018/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Iam looking for any information available about Mary Miller According to my family records she was Miller by birth, then Wallace, Thomson and finally Leggate.Her last marriage was to William Leggate of Glasgow.I only know of one son, William, born about 1866 who married Catherine Colquhoun Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: piwade Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/269.2263.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My brother in law is a direct descent of Marrion's older brother James MCMURTRIE born 18/4/1813. James also came to Victoria and settled in the Stawell area. I would be happy to share and compare notes my email is pmwade@optusnet.com.au Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: KerryPatterson138 Surnames: McMurtrie, Patterson, Richardson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/269.2263/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My son is a direct descendent of Marion McMurtrie born 23 Jun 1816 and daughter of Helen Richardson and David McMurtrie of Dalmellington. She migrated to Australia and married Alexander Patterson of Blawerei, Berwickshire. They had 3 sons and 1 daughter. Her brothers, David born 31 Jan 1841 and William born 1 Sep 1818 also came to Australia and died here with large families surviving them. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I'm looking for the marriage of Thomas BROWN, born 1830/31 in Scotland (to John Brown and Jean/Jane). He married Elizabeth (don't know her maiden name - maybe McCAW). They were married in the late 1840s or in the 1850s -- perhaps in Kilmarnock (but maybe in Boston MA, USA). That's not much to go on but any help would be greatly appreciated. Cecilia

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: robburnsuk Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14016.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: John, Thank you for the info regarding the armits marriages and deaths in Killie etc. I know how close the places are having lived at New Farm Loch for a year and then 2 months later I found out about Adam. You can imagine how annoyed I was. Adam left the family and came to England. He must have passed through leeds because he met my gg grandmother there and they moved to Derbyshire where they had my great grandmother and a brother. They left Derbyshire and moved to Nottingham. I am guessing Adam was still in contact with someone in Hurlford because not long after Jane dies he marries my gg grandmother and had their final child and second daughter. My great gran lived into her 80's and I remember visiting her on many occasions. In fact I can still take people to her bungalow even though it as been many years now. I guess I am going to have to see if I can locate any children born to Donald and his wife because they will or should be still alive. I don't want anything from them it would just be nice to meet descendents of my g grandmother who I am sure knew nothing about. If she had she would have spoke about them. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jonndean Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14016.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello Rob, I think you will find it quite difficult to find any relations living to day of Donald Armit. There are very few names Armit, in Ayrshire. It looks like Donald Armit, married 1917. in Kilmarnock, Ayr. and died there in 1986, aged 95 years. His sister Jane Armit, does not appear to have married, and died 1957. aged 67 years, Crookedholm, Ayr. Your Adam Armit, married Jane McGhee, 1887. Crookedholm, Ayr. also Jane surname comes up sometimes McGee. This Jane Armit McGee, died aged 44 years, 1913. in Kilmarnock, Ayr. Kilmarnock, Hurlford, and Crookedholm, are all within a few miles of each other. Adam Armit, and his parents were living for a short period of time in Hurlford, Ayr, just about the time Adam, and Jane were married, in fact his young sister Jane Armit, was born in Hurlford, in 1889. Regards, Jonn. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: robburnsuk Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14016.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thx but I had that. I am hoping to contact someone descended from him and thus related to me. Donald was my great grandmothers half brother and thus a half great uncle once removed to myself Rob Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jecroft Surnames: PEACOCK Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14017.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: You might want to post that entry #88 on the Wigtownshire list. You join at http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE.html I know that Maisie Egger on that list has a PEACOCK/Newton Stewart connection. There is also an entry in the index for the Wigtownshire Free Press published on 22 Feb 1855 that might be your family. Deaths - PEACOCK, David - D14/2/1855 -Suddenly at Minnigaff, on the 14th instant, Mr David Peacock, aged 83 years. ------- Jo-Ann Croft Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jecroft Surnames: ARMIT Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14016.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I'm not researching this person, just hoping to help. Here are the households in 1891/1901 census records. 1891 cenus Riccarton, Ayrshire Name Age Adam Armit 22 (b Newmains, Lanarkshire) Jane Armit 22 (b Hurlford, Ayrshire) James Armit 3 (b Hurlford, Ayrshire) Jane Armit 2 (b Hurlford, Ayrshire) Donald Armit 1 Mo (b Hurlford, Ayrshire) --------------------------- 1901 cenus Riccarton, Ayrshire Name Age Jane Banks 82 (b. Ireland) Jane Armit 32 (grandaughter) James Armit 13 (g grandson) Jane Armit 12 (g grandaughter) Donald Armit 10 (g grandson) ======================= Jo-Ann Croft Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: johnolivershaw Surnames: Shaw Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14017.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: hello Keith, I am interested in Shaws from south Ayrshire. Any chance your Jean Shaw was born 1772 in Kirkmichael to James Shaw and Isabell Grieve? Cheers John Shaw Auckland NZ Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: KEEFUS Surnames: PEACOCK, SHAW, COWAN, DONALDSON, CARLE Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14017/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Following is other entries on the page that contained my needed info. Deaths in the Parish Of GIRVAN County of AYR Registered by John Bodom Entry # 88 John PEACOCK Weaver 76 Years born Newton Steward (?) Wigtownshire lived in Girvan about 40 yrs. Father David PEACOCK a farmer (deceased) Mother Ann PEACOCK MS COWAN (deceased) Married to Jean SHAW (deceased) Children Janet b 1-Aug-1799 d 8-Jan 1849 Sarah 6-Apr-1801 unkn Ann 27-Jan-1803 bef 1851 Matthew 6-Nov-1804 unkn Jean 15-May-1806 unkn David 23-Jul-1808 1-Jul-1855 Robert 19-Apr-1810 unkn James 16-Oct-1811 unkn John died 16-Jan-1855 @ 7 AM death place Dalrymple St., Girvan, Ayr,Scotland Cause was Diarhea for past 10 days as certified by John Graham who saw patient on 15-Jan-1855 Buried in Girvan Churchyard Entry 89 Margaret DONALDSON 60 Years born ( hard to read county) Ireland lived in Girvan 33 years both parents are NOT listed married to James DONALDSON Children Elizabeth dec Ann dec Joseph dec Margaret dec Margaret 26 William 24 Sarah 22 died 12-Jan-1855 @ 11:30 PM in Donnebank, Girvan cause Cholera attanded by John Graham buried in Girvan Churchyard Entry 90 Agnes CARLE 58 yrs Born in County Tywns(?) Ireland live in Girvan 10 Yrs Parents not listed married to Henry CARLE (deceased) Children William (dec) Elizabeth (dec) Samuel(?) 22 Mary HANDIE (?) 19 died 1-Feb-1855 @ 4 PM in Darlymple St Girvan cause Cholera 6 days attended by Dr Blackwood. burien in Girvan Churchyard. Hope this helped someone in their quest. Keith W Brown Indianapolis IN Entry 88 is part of my tree. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: robburnsuk Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14016/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Is there anyone researching the above person. He would have been born circa 1891 the son of Adam and Jane. He was born at Hurlford, close to Kilmarnock. Adam left the family and moved to England. I am descended from Adam Armit and his second wife Grace. Rob Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Glenda, it looks as if these are very blended families from whatever angle you look. But I see that Mary wasn't Irish. Angus seems to have some sons already (born in Ireland) and maybe James and Matthew Lang were Mary's by a previous marriage. It is hard to tell on the 1841. I suppose Cursty could be someone's interpretation of Judy if not written very clearly. Piece: SCT1841/565 Place: Houston & Killellan -Renfrewshire Enumeration District: 3 Civil Parish: Houston & Killellan Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: - Folio: 3 Page: 10 Address: Crosslee LONGMUIR Charles M 30 Coal Miner Ireland LONGMUIR Juidy F 25 Ireland LONGMUIR Elisabeth F 1 Ireland It certainly looks as if this is the same Elisabeth as the 11 year old in 1851. But I can't make sense of it all. Where did you get the certainty that a Judy Paterson married Charles Longmuir? Of course they may just have lived together and changed names? Who was Angus married to earlier? Do you have sources for the original information? Cheers, Mary

Piece: SCT1841/559 Place: Abbey (Paisley) -Renfrewshire Enumeration District: 20 Civil Parish: Abbey (Paisley) Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: - Folio: 20 Page: 10 Address: Houston Square, Johnstone KAILL Anguss M 45 Labourer Ireland KAILL Mary F 45 Renfrewshire LANG James M 24 Carter Renfrewshire LANG Matthew M 10 Renfrewshire KAILL John M 16 Ireland KAILL James M 14 Ireland KAILL Jane F 7 Ireland Ah I found them eventually - but with very different spelling. Could Mary have gone home to Ireland to die? Rose is listed as lodger on the 1851 which is strange at age 2. Especially as Angus seems to have wife called Cursty/Kirsty and lodger called Elizabeth Longmure (not Judith). This doesn't tally with what info you sent. What do you think? Mary in Western Oz

Hi Glenda, I can't find your family on freecen for 1841 but think this must be them in 1851 - but Cursty (Kirsty I imagine) seems to be Angus' wife - not Judith? Is this the right family? I do think scotlandspeople may help as I am puzzled at not finding them in 1841. Piece: SCT1851/559 Place: Abbey (Paisley) -Renfrewshire Enumeration District: 12 Civil Parish: Abbey (Paisley) Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: - Folio: 473 Page: 24 Schedule: 73 Address: Johnstone, Graham St KYLES Anguss Head M M 50 Ag Labourer Co. Antrim - - KYLES Cursty Wife M F 33 Not Employed Co. Antrim - - LONGSMURE Elizabeth Lodger U F 11 Mill Worker Co. Antrim - - KYLE Rose Lodger - F 2 Ayrshire - - Best regards, Mary

Hi Glenda, I have a PATERSON interest and would be interested to know if you have any more on Judith? Have you tried ScotlandsPeople www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk for records? This is the site for official government records and is pay-per-view, but is very reasonable in price. You can not only see the image of the original document, but download it too. BMDs are only about £1.20 each. regards Pat "Here's tae us! Wha's like us? Damn few! - an' they're a' deid!" Old Scots Toast -----Original Message----- From: ayrshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ayrshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Our Trees Sent: 14 July 2010 02:56 To: Ayrshire Mail List Subject: [AYR] HELP Please The following information I need help with as have exhausted all my options on this side of the world. Death of Mary KYLES/FYLES/SYLES/KYLE age in 1841 census 45 married to Angus... maiden name STEWART died after 1841 census and before 1848, was in Abbey, Paisley, Renfrewshire on married in 1840 and in 1841 census. Death of Charles LONGMUIR last "seen" in 1841 census at Houston & Killellan aged 30 years with wife Juidy 25 and 1 year old daughter Elisabeth. In 1851 census Ju(i)dy was with new husband Angus KYLES and their 1st child Rose Anna............... Marriage of Judy/Judith PATERSON/LONGMUIR to Angus KYLES after death of above Mary. Birth Rose or Rose Ann or Rose Anna KYLES born apparently in Irvine 1848/1849 of parents Judy PATERSON and Angus KYLES I have all the information on Angus and Mary except for death, I have all the information on Judy and Angus except their marriage and I have Rose Anna in Census records but can't find her birth. Thanks in advance Glenda

Glenda Firstly they could have moved out of Paisley - so have you searched in other parts of Scotland for Angus Kyles? Oh what was his occuption given in hte 1841 Census. This may dertermine if he moved to another town in Scotland or even went to England to work. Your second line is that he migrated after 1851. That could be Canada, USA, South africa, Australia or New Zealand - plus a few other places as well. Mike Boyd Brisbane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Our Trees" <our.trees@paradise.net.nz> To: "Ayrshire Mail List" <AYRSHIRE-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 11:55 AM Subject: [AYR] HELP Please > The following information I need help with as have exhausted all my > options > on this side of the world. > > > > Death of Mary KYLES/FYLES/SYLES/KYLE age in 1841 census 45 married to > Angus... maiden name STEWART died after 1841 census and before 1848, was > in > Abbey, Paisley, Renfrewshire on married in 1840 and in 1841 census. > > > > Death of Charles LONGMUIR last "seen" in 1841 census at Houston & > Killellan > aged 30 years with wife Juidy 25 and 1 year old daughter Elisabeth. In > 1851 > census Ju(i)dy was with new husband Angus KYLES and their 1st child Rose > Anna............... > > > > Marriage of Judy/Judith PATERSON/LONGMUIR to Angus KYLES after death of > above Mary. > > > > Birth Rose or Rose Ann or Rose Anna KYLES born apparently in Irvine > 1848/1849 of parents Judy PATERSON and Angus KYLES > > > > I have all the information on Angus and Mary except for death, I have all > the information on Judy and Angus except their marriage and I have Rose > Anna > in Census records but can't find her birth. > > > > Thanks in advance Glenda

The following information I need help with as have exhausted all my options on this side of the world. Death of Mary KYLES/FYLES/SYLES/KYLE age in 1841 census 45 married to Angus... maiden name STEWART died after 1841 census and before 1848, was in Abbey, Paisley, Renfrewshire on married in 1840 and in 1841 census. Death of Charles LONGMUIR last "seen" in 1841 census at Houston & Killellan aged 30 years with wife Juidy 25 and 1 year old daughter Elisabeth. In 1851 census Ju(i)dy was with new husband Angus KYLES and their 1st child Rose Anna............... Marriage of Judy/Judith PATERSON/LONGMUIR to Angus KYLES after death of above Mary. Birth Rose or Rose Ann or Rose Anna KYLES born apparently in Irvine 1848/1849 of parents Judy PATERSON and Angus KYLES I have all the information on Angus and Mary except for death, I have all the information on Judy and Angus except their marriage and I have Rose Anna in Census records but can't find her birth. Thanks in advance Glenda

Hi all, William Wyllie and Mary Steel were married in 1726. They lived at Amlaird, Fenwick, and may have had connections to Gree/Grieve. William Wyllie died 1775, listed as "an elder of this parish" I have reason to believe that they are my ancestors via their son James (b. 1730, married Jean Bicket in 1766) and James' son William (b. 1767, possibly/probably the William Wyllie who married Jean Borland at Fenwick in 1802) James Wyllie's wife Jean Bicket died in 1769, I've not been able to find if he remarried and had additional children. I'm interested in finding additional information on the family of Wm. Wyllie and Mary Steel. The IGI does list some additional children for them. All the best, Ken Cuthbertson