This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sharpi52 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14019.2.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Charles, Thankyou so much for your help, Im sending it on to my mum-in-law, who is decendant of Mary Jones & Frank Lesie Cox. Do you know anything on Mary Mantells parents? Thanks again, Sharpi Australia Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi Listers, One of our kind and sharp fellow listers provided this to me, making sense of my transcription of that difficult first page. I'll be using this in future as a template to help decode the earlier writing style of this era. First, my attempt: ? man heath forsyt Latrday ? wallbeth not or stray in councell of ungodllie men Nor otans in sinoes way Let pleaseth his dellyt Upon gods Law & modifats Then, the real wording: Did you recognize that this was the first Psalm (metric version)? That man hath perfect blessedness Who walketh not astray In counsel of ungodly men Nor stands in sinner's way. Nor sitteth in the scorner's chair But placeth his delight Upon God's law, and meditates On his law day and night. Jim Bundy

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Heronjds Surnames: Gemmell, Law, Wyllie, Morrison & Taylor Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/1.698.1.2.1.1.2.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello Iain, Thanks for the contact yes your William Gemmell is the eldest son of James Gemmell and Janet Bruce my line is from his younger brother James who married Flora Morrison in 1844 I have the details of all the siblings with the exception of Mary their eldest child born in 1812 I would be pleased to exchange this for anything you may have regarding your line. I am particularly interested in the Freeman part it would be your line that would succeed to the title. If you can make contact by e-mail I can send you my details, just add @aol.com to my identification (Heronjds) I look forward to hearing from you. Bill Heron Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I was searching for a death record for our Matthew Wyllie who was married to Janet Wyllie on Scotlandspeople using Ayr and I came up with 21 Andrew Wyllie's (various spellings of last name), most living in Stewarton which is where our Matthew lived. I know he was alive to 1754 by children's birth records and a family member listed 1791 as his death date, none of the 21 died in 1791. How does one determine which Andrew is the right one? Elaine

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: 51738 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14019.2.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Ok I had another look - still think I may have the right Jones as before and Janet Cuthbert McVIVAR was not born in Ayshire in 1860, she was born 13 Mar 1864 at PERTH the daughter of Hugh McVICAR and Helen Chisholm CHRISTIE - the latter was born 9 Jul 1861 at Perth to Thomas CHRISTIE and Janet (Jessie) CUTHBERT who were married at Jedburgh in Roxburghshire in 1826 where they had a William b 1827 ( and on the 1881 Census in Perth) and an Alexander b 1829. They also had another daughter Anne Johnstone CHRISTIE at Perth in 1833. Regards Charles Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

And, many thanks to Jim Bundy for being willing to transcribe these pages I stumbled across! It would take me AGES. Ken C. -----Original Message----- From: Jim Bundy <jbundy48@verizon.net> To: Rootsweb Ayrshire <ayrshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:33 pm Subject: [AYR] Fenwick Parish Register 1643-79, note 1 Hi Listers, y thanks to Ken Cuthbertson for allowing me the opportunity to transcribe hese. I had the most trouble with the first page, looks as if written and igned by the great first Minister at William Guthrie himself! Sadly, he ost several children himself, as did many in the parish. Jim Bundy ? man heath forsyt Latrday ? wallbeth not or stray in councell of ungodllie en Nor otans in sinoes way Let pleaseth his dellyt Upon gods Law & modifats he Lord is good to them that fears his Name m Guthrie inister in finik Upon the 25 of Septr 16? James Wight in sandbed was biuried pon the 2 of Octbr Robert son to Robert Tyllorer in Cryl? Was buried pon the 4 of Decr Marione Crukt in Stony Peth was buried pon the 11 of Octbr Johne son to David Folltone was babtised Upon the 18 of nor Jam(es?) Bunteins mother in tanochcrief pon the 2 of Der Jonet Whyt ? ? in raith pon the 21 of Der ane bairn of ? Fouiel in hillheid pon the 3 of Der Rot sone to Rot Gemill noth in finik pon the 8 of Der ane dochter to Rot Wyllie in hill of polkellie lso Bessie Smyth spouse to Thomas Smyth in gillfauld lso Jonet Tannochill spouse to John ?rtopoun in burnfit nd upon the 25 of febr 1649 Thomas Brouns wyf in taperhill nd upon the 5 of march John Boyd in finik pon the 8 of march 1649 was ane puir man called Ramsay our upon the 26 of march William sone to William Hilhouse in finik air ane bairne of Alexr Gemill in clonfyne named Agnes being buryed 28 of arch pon the 4 of apryll ? ane bairne of John Robesons he died in Balgray pon the 13 of Apryll ane bairne of William Wallace in warnokland pon the ? Apryll ane bairne of Wm Bars & Marion Tode in balgray air upon the 25 of Apryll ane bair(n) of Andr ? he dwells in darclaboch pon the 5 of may Robert Gemill in crookhead pon the ? of may Jonet dikie in midland of may James Davison in balgray June John Bon? pham ? homas Lires ane chyld of John ? dwelling in ? ne chyld of John Andw ? in mure nd upon the 7 of Jully Margrat dochter to Mr Wm Guthrie nd in Jully John Brouns mother nd upon the 27 of August an? of William Montgomerie nd in Septr ane chyld of H? nd ane old puir man ? Willone ? of Sepr ? pon the 12 of ? ane servant of N? died of ?unfach the 2 on Januarie 1650 John Smith the ? ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Hi I'm looking for information on William NIMMO. I'd like to know where he was born, and who his parents were. I do know he married Elizabeth McBride in 1815 in St Quivox, but nothing before that. Appreciate any help. thanks June

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: 51738 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14019.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Ok - I'll have another look. By the way I think you mean Tillicoulry not Tellicoutri. It is just North of Alloa. On the 1881 Census David Jones with waht looks like your family is shown as born in Kirkoswald, Ayrshire. Dwelling: 4 Hayside Row Census Place: Dreghorn, Ayr, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203596 GRO Ref Volume 589 EnumDist 5 Page 3 Marr Age Sex Birthplace David JONES M 53 M Kirkoswald, Ayr, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Coal Miner Mary JONES M 46 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Wife Occ: Coal Miners Wife Sophia JONES U 21 F E Kilbride, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Coal Miners Daughter John JONES U 18 M E Kilbride, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Coal Miner Mary JONES 10 F Kilmaurs, Ayr, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar David JONES 13 M E Kilbride, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Grandson Occ: Coal Miner Helen JONES 6 F Kilmaurs, Ayr, Scotland Rel: Grand Daur Andrew JONES 2 M Nitshill, Renfrew, Scotland Rel: Grandson William BURNIE U 18 M Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland Rel: Boarder Regards Charles Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sharpi52 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14019.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I still don't think we have the right people. this is what Ive been told by my mother-in-law (decendant of Mary Mantell Jones. David Jones bTillicoutri m Mary Son John Jones b1863 Coal Miner Irvine Vennel m 1899 Janet Cuthbert McVicor b1860 Ayreshire. Her mother was Helen Chisholm dprior to 1899 her father Hugh McVicor Soldier & police constable. John Jones & Janet Cuthbert had 5 children #1 Hugh McVicor Jones b31/11/1903 Kilmours he was a Provist, he married Lizzie Fisher. #2 Helen Nellie Jones. #3 John Jones marrid Peggie McKenzie, John was a magistrate. and then #4 Mary Mantell Jones b13/8/1905 Kilmours married Frank Leslie Cox b Lancashire, they went to live in Ontario Canada, they had 3 children, Jack, Frank Lesie & Alice Janette.Alice is my mother in law. There is a story in the family that Mary Mantell Jones b1905 changed her name to Mary Mantell and moved to Canada & became a 'Charlston Dancer' prior to her marrying. I can't see this fitting into your tree.Also the fact that the Jones family lived in Tellicoutri. Im really confused haha.. Cheers Sharpi Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Loretta, I have a case just like that where twins were baptised more than a month apart, one where they were born and the other where all the family were normally baptised. Nuala ----- Original Message ----- From: "Loretta Layman" <lynneage@h-o-l.com> To: "'Jim Bundy'" <jbundy48@verizon.net>; <bellemarco@gmail.com>; "'Rootsweb Ayrshire'" <ayrshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [AYR] Help with town name - Fenwick > Jim, you may have inadvertently answered a different question for me. Do > you > think that, in the case of twins where one was frail and the other not, > baptism for the frail child would be done quickly and the other done after > a > month's time? I have a case elsewhere in Scotland where what appears to > be > one man had two children baptized one month apart. I don't think it's a > case > where one record was wrongly transcribed because the two records differ in > both the month and the day. > > Loretta

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: farwellwalter Surnames: Graham, Kennedy of Knockdaw, Adair, Classification: deed Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14020/mb.ashx Message Board Post: "swresearch" posted the following record on the County Down, Ireland, site: "5 June 1591. Precept from chancery for infefting John Graham of Knockdolian as heir of the deceased Robert Graham of Knockdolian his father STATING his having purchased a Precept from Chancery directed to Katharine Kennedy eldest of two daughters and heirs of deceased David Kennedy of Knockdaw -- immediate superior to Fergus Kennedy now of Knockdaw, immediate superior to William Adair of Kinhilt (son of Ninian Adair), immediate superior to John Graham of Knockdolian - and - REQUIRING Katharine Kennedy to infeft him as heir aforesaid, in respect Fergus Kennedy and William Adair had both delayed so to do. "And she did not. THEN "Another Precept from chancery would be directed to the bailie of Carrick to give infeftment, and the said Katharine Kennedy having delayed to obey the said Precept, THEREFORE "And for such contumacy COMMANDING the bailie of Carrick to give Seisin to him the said John Graham or his attorney, in the said penny and half penny land of Nether Conray and Straid. "To be holden of the King." N.B.: This instrument -- if correctly given -- outlines how land was acquired in medieval Scotland: FIRST: The King (all the country was his). SECOND: His tenant David Kennedy was deceased, leaving two daughters as co-heirs to the one and a half penny land of Nether Conray and Straid. This puts the King as the immediate superior to the two sisters. THIRD: Fergus Kennedy "now of Knockdaw" had been the under-tenant of David Kennedy, but now was the under - tenant of the two sisters for whom the King was responsible as their immediate superior! Fergus Kennedy was doing nothing until the problem was settled with the one sister. FOURTH: William Adair of Kinhilt (son of Ninian Adair) was the under-tenant of Fergus Kennedy. Adair was also doing nothing until the matter was resolved. Adair's under-tenant - FIFTH: John Graham of Knockdolian, heir of his father Robert Graham of Knockdolian who had been the fifth subtenant in Nether Conray and Straid, now was hoping to be the man to hold directly of the King (as far as this 1 1/2 penny land was concerned). However, the heiress of David Kennedy of Knockdaw wasn't acting. Evidently, John Graham of Knockdolian had appealed to the heiress's immediate superior for help, and the King had responded by placing the matter before Chancery. If there were no movement on the matter, then the bailie of Carrick was to step in and give infeftment to John Graham as son and heir. In any case, the 1 1/2 penny land was to be held by him -- as the tennant-in-chief. QUESTION: Was Knockdow, itself, divided between David Kennedy OF Knockdaw (father of the two co-heiresses), and, Fergus Kennedy also OF Knockdaw, but the under tennant of David in this 1 1/2 penny land? -- Walter Farwell Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Page 102 The whilk day Rot Broun and Jonate Craige being somoned for fornication wer called and compearing both of them confessed fornication the session does ordain them to confesse their sin from the publick place of repentance thrie several saboth dayes The whilk day Johne Armour being somoned several tymes for drunknes and compeared confessing his sin of drunknes the session does ordain him to confesse his sin from the publick place of repentance The whilk day William Craige being somoned for the sin of drunknes was called and compearing confessed the same the session after search finding him guiltie most frequently of that sin as also that he came to the paroch and lived in it without a testimonial from any other place did ordain that he should acknowledge his sin of drunknes from the publick place of repentance and that he should leave the paroch unless he brought a testimonial from Dreghorn the paroch he lived in before The whilk day William Hill being somoned for drunknes wes called and compearing confessed the same and because the lade was bot young and the first publick fault of this kyyd the session thought fit to rebuik him sharplie for the present hoping herby to gaine him Delations Cristane Whyte for drunknes Session Jun 21 1655 The whilk day Cristane Whyte being somoned for drunknes was called and compearing deneyed the same the witnes being examined to wit William Mortoun and William Craige William William Mortoun being sworne depons that Christane Whyte was drunk and William Craige depons the same the session finding hir guiltie of drunknes did ordaine hir to acknowledge hir sin from the publick place befor the congregation Delations John Baird and his wyfe for feighting upon the saboth in the morning. Jonate Blackwood for drunknes Rot Buntaine as suspect of fornication wit Jonate Gilmour Session July 26 1655 The whilk day Johne Baird being somoned for feighting with his wyfe and compearing confessed the same the session finding his caredge most scandalouse both for drunknes and abuseing of his wyffe thought it expedient the ministers should advyse with the presbytrie about his sensure

Hi Listers, My thanks to Ken Cuthbertson for allowing me the opportunity to transcribe these. I had the most trouble with the first page, looks as if written and signed by the great first Minister at William Guthrie himself! Sadly, he lost several children himself, as did many in the parish. Jim Bundy ? man heath forsyt Latrday ? wallbeth not or stray in councell of ungodllie men Nor otans in sinoes way Let pleaseth his dellyt Upon gods Law & modifats The Lord is good to them that fears his Name W Wm Guthrie Minister in finik Upon the 25 of Septr 16? James Wight in sandbed was biuried Upon the 2 of Octbr Robert son to Robert Tyllorer in Cryl? Was buried Upon the 4 of Decr Marione Crukt in Stony Peth was buried Upon the 11 of Octbr Johne son to David Folltone was babtised Upon the 18 of nor Jam(es?) Bunteins mother in tanochcrief Upon the 2 of Der Jonet Whyt ? ? in raith Upon the 21 of Der ane bairn of ? Fouiel in hillheid Upon the 3 of Der Rot sone to Rot Gemill noth in finik Upon the 8 of Der ane dochter to Rot Wyllie in hill of polkellie Also Bessie Smyth spouse to Thomas Smyth in gillfauld Also Jonet Tannochill spouse to John ?rtopoun in burnfit And upon the 25 of febr 1649 Thomas Brouns wyf in taperhill And upon the 5 of march John Boyd in finik Upon the 8 of march 1649 was ane puir man called Ramsay Mour upon the 26 of march William sone to William Hilhouse in finik Mair ane bairne of Alexr Gemill in clonfyne named Agnes being buryed 28 of march Upon the 4 of apryll ? ane bairne of John Robesons he died in Balgray Upon the 13 of Apryll ane bairne of William Wallace in warnokland Upon the ? Apryll ane bairne of Wm Bars & Marion Tode in balgray Mair upon the 25 of Apryll ane bair(n) of Andr ? he dwells in darclaboch Upon the 5 of may Robert Gemill in crookhead Upon the ? of may Jonet dikie in midland ? of may James Davison in balgray ? June John Bon? pham ? Thomas Lires ane chyld of John ? dwelling in ? Ane chyld of John Andw ? in mure And upon the 7 of Jully Margrat dochter to Mr Wm Guthrie And in Jully John Brouns mother And upon the 27 of August an? of William Montgomerie And in Septr ane chyld of H? And ane old puir man ? ? Willone ? of Sepr ? upon the 12 of ? ane servant of N? died of ?unfach ? the 2 on Januarie 1650 John Smith the ?

The OPRs are records of the Baptism and not of the birth itself. Some records may state when the child was actually born, but to many of the men recording these records that was actually of no interest - what was of interest was entering the event which the church was paid for. The amount of information varies wildly - some don't even record the name of the mother. I couldn't even take a guess at the word you don't understand without seeing the record itself. Louise On 25 July 2010 16:41, <bellemarco@gmail.com> wrote: > I am trying to decipher a record for Matthew Wylie b. Oct. 9, 1728, OPR > Births 592/0010 0212 Fenwick. Since it says baptism at the end of the > record, I assume this is the day he was baptized. Were the children usually > baptized the same day they were born or how does one figure out the > birthdate? Nonetheless this record says something that looks like " in Groo > or Grod was baptized". What is the Groo or Grod? An area - and which one is > correct, if either? > > Thank you. > Elaine Sharp > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: 51738 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14019.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, I have an interest in Jones in Ayrshire so had a look. Think your tree wil go as below. Looks like Mary Mantell's father David Mantell was the son of James MANTELL and Marion McMURTRIE of Dailly Ayrshire - Marion McMurtrie was born in Edinburgh abt 1786 - husband James was dead before April 1841. Regards Charles my email address is 2@f2s.com ----------- Descendants of John JONES Generation No. 1 1. John1 JONES was born Abt. 1755 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland ?, and died in Some info from : - Andrew Jones andra.jones@virgin.net. He married Jean ROSS 13 Jul 1780 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland M115852. She was born Abt. 1759 in of Dailly, Ayr, Scotland. More About John JONES:family contact : grayowls@charter.net Occupation: 1780, Coalheaver at Dalquarran More About Jean ROSS: Date born 2: Abt. 1759 More About John JONES and Jean ROSS: Marriage: 13 Jul 1780, Dailly, Ayr, Scotland M115852 Children of John JONES and Jean ROSS are: 2 i. Gilbert2 JONES, born 24 Jul 1780 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland FHL Film 1041337 & 1851 Census; died 14 Feb 1858 in Kirkoswald, Ayr, Scotland. 3 ii. David JONES, born 05 Sep 1781 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland FHL Film 1041337; died 05 Mar 1860 in New Stables, Dalquarran,Daily, Ayr, Scotland. 4 iii. Elizabeth JONES, born 11 Mar 1783 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland C115852 & FHL Film 1041337. 5 iv. Richard JONES, born 02 Jun 1785 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland FHL Film 1041337. 6 v. Ann JONES, born Abt. 1788 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland?. 7 vi. Jean JONES, born 12 Apr 1789 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland C115852 & FHL Film 1041337. Generation No. 2 2. Gilbert2 JONES (John1) was born 24 Jul 1780 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland FHL Film 1041337 & 1851 Census, and died 14 Feb 1858 in Kirkoswald, Ayr, Scotland. He married (1) Margaret POWELL 18 Dec 1800 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland M115852. She was born Abt. 1779 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland?. He married (2) Jane (Jean) FERGUSON 10 Apr 1805 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland M115852. She was born Abt. 1784 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland Re 1851 Census. More About Gilbert JONES: Fact: Bet. 1780 - 1822, on Poor Database for Dailly, Ayrshire Occupation 1: Apr 1851, Coalminer living at Kirkoswald Occupation 2: Jun 1841, Coal Miner at Kirkoswald More About Gilbert JONES and Margaret POWELL: Marriage: 18 Dec 1800, Dailly, Ayr, Scotland M115852 More About Jane (Jean) FERGUSON: Burial: 2nd Wife More About Gilbert JONES and Jane FERGUSON: Marriage: 10 Apr 1805, Dailly, Ayr, Scotland M115852 Children of Gilbert JONES and Jane FERGUSON are: 8 i. John3 JONES, born Abt. 1806 in Kirkoswald, Ayrshire, Scotland ?; died Bet. Mar 1846 - Apr 1851 in Kirkoswald, Ayrshire, Scotland. 9 ii. David JONES, born 09 Mar 1808 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland FHL Film 1041337; died in Kilwinning, Ayr, Scotland. 10 iii. Gilbert JONES, born 06 May 1810 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland FHL Film 1041337. 11 iv. Jane JONES, born 22 Dec 1812 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland C115852 & FHL Film 1041337. 12 v. Elizabeth Lambie JONES, born 21 Mar 1815 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland C115852 & FHL Film 1041337. 13 vi. James JONES, born 03 May 1817 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland FHL Film 1041337. 14 vii. Sarah McCreadie JONES, born 03 Dec 1819 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland C115852 & FHL Film 1041337. 15 viii. Alexander JONES, born 06 Mar 1822 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland FHL Film 1041337; died Bef. 1881. 16 ix. Richard JONES, born 21 Apr 1824 in Kirkoswald, Ayrshire, Scotland FHL Film 1041391. More About Richard JONES: Occupation: Apr 1851, Coalminer living at Kirkoswald 17 x. Hugh Brydan JONES, born 03 Dec 1827 in Kirkoswald, Ayrshire, Scotland FHL Film 1041391. More About Hugh Brydan JONES: Occupation: Apr 1811, Coalminer living at Kirkoswald 18 xi. Agnes JONES, born 23 Jun 1832 in Kirkoswald, Ayrshire, Scotland FHL Film 1041391. 3. David2 JONES (John1) was born 05 Sep 1781 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland FHL Film 1041337, and died 05 Mar 1860 in New Stables, Dalquarran,Daily, Ayr, Scotland. He married Joanna (Ann) MUIR, daughter of Nicholas MUIR and Mary McPHEE. She was born 1788 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland, and died 14 Oct 1856 in Dalquharran, Daily, Ayrshire. More About David JONES: Occupation: 1841, Coal miner at Howsmount, Daiily, Ayr, Scotland More About Joanna (Ann) MUIR: Date born 2: Abt. 1782 Children of David JONES and Joanna MUIR are: 19 i. Mary3 JONES, born 18 Feb 1813 in Ayr, Ayr, Scotland C115789. 20 ii. John JONES, born 08 Jun 1816 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland FHL Film 1041337 Re 1851/ 1861 Census. 21 iii. Alexander JONES, born 09 Jun 1818 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland FHL Film 1041337; died 30 Oct 1888 in Kilbirnie Cottage, Dalquarran. 22 iv. Jean JONES, born 23 Jul 1820 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland C115854 & FHL Film 1041337 & 1841 Census. 23 v. Joanna JONES, born 23 Oct 1822 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland C115854 & 1841 Census; died 06 Jul 1848 in New Stables, Dalquarran,Daily, Ayr, Scotland. 24 vi. David JONES, born 18 Mar 1825 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland FHL Film 1041337; died 01 Dec 1835 in New Stables, Dalquarran,Daily, Ayr, Scotland. 25 vii. Margaret JONES, born 27 Dec 1827 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland C115854 & 1841 Census. 26 viii. Elizabeth JONES, born 09 Nov 1831 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland C115854 & 1841 Census. Generation No. 3 8. John3 JONES (Gilbert2, John1) was born Abt. 1806 in Kirkoswald, Ayrshire, Scotland ?, and died Bet. Mar 1846 - Apr 1851 in Kirkoswald, Ayrshire, Scotland. He married Helenora (Elenora) BRYDEN. She was born 1806 in Dailly, Ayrshire, Scotland Re 1851 Census. More About John JONES: Date born 2: Abt. 1806 Occupation: Jun 1841, Coal Miner at Hillside, Kirkoswald Children of John JONES and Helenora BRYDEN are: 27 i. David Brydan4 JONES, born 23 Jun 1828 in Kirkoswald, Ayrshire, Scotland FHL Film 1041391 & 1881 Census; died 1896 in Kilmaurs, Ayr, Scotland. 28 ii. James JONES, born 21 Mar 1830 in Kirkoswald, Ayrshire, Scotland FHL Film 1041391. 29 iii. John JONES, born 16 Feb 1832 in Kirkoswald, Ayrshire, Scotland FHL Film 1041391; died Bef. 1837. 30 iv. Alexander JONES, born 25 May 1833 in Kirkoswald, Ayrshire, Scotland FHL Film 1041391. More About Alexander JONES: Occupation: Apr 1851, Coal Miner at Hecklebirnie, Kirkoswald 31 v. Janet JONES, born 28 Oct 1835 in Kirkoswald, Ayrshire, Scotland FHL Film 1041391; died Bef. 1840. 32 vi. John JONES, born 18 Jun 1837 in Kirkoswald, Ayrshire, Scotland FHL Film 1041391. 33 vii. Janet JONES, born 21 Apr 1840 in Kirkoswald, Ayrshire, Scotland FHL Film 1041391. 34 viii. Ann JONES, born 04 Nov 1842 in Kirkoswald, Ayrshire, Scotland FHL Film 1041391. 35 ix. Andrew Notman JONES, born 06 Nov 1844 in Kirkoswald, Ayrshire, Scotland FHL Film 1041391. 36 x. Margaret Neil JONES, born 23 Dec 1846 in Kirkoswald, Ayrshire, Scotland FHL Film 1041391. 9. David3 JONES (Gilbert2, John1) was born 09 Mar 1808 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland FHL Film 1041337, and died in Kilwinning, Ayr, Scotland. He married Janet ROSS 06 Feb 1829 in Kirkoswald, Ayrshire, Scotland M116014. She was born 1807 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland Re 1881 Census. More About David JONES: Occupation: Apr 1841, Coal miner at Kirk Vennel, Irvine More About Janet ROSS: Fact: 1881, Living at Bridgend , Kilwinning with gdau Sarah Jones and Janet McKinnon More About David JONES and Janet ROSS: Marriage: 06 Feb 1829, Kirkoswald, Ayrshire, Scotland M116014 Children of David JONES and Janet ROSS are: 37 i. John4 JONES, born 03 Nov 1829 in Kirkoswald, Ayrshire, Scotland FHL Film 1041391. 38 ii. Jean Ferguson JONES, born 01 Apr 1831 in Kirkoswald, Ayrshire, Scotland FHL Film 1041391. 39 iii. Gilbert JONES, born 27 Jan 1833 in Kirkoswald, Ayrshire, Scotland FHL Film 1041391. 40 iv. David JONES, born 1837 in Kirkoswald, Ayr, Scotland Re 1881 Census. 41 v. Janet JONES, born 20 Apr 1838 in Kilwinning, Ayr, Scotland. 42 vi. Catherine JONES, born Abt. Dec 1840 in Irvine, Ayr, Scotland Re 1841 Census at Irvine. 43 vii. Sarah JONES, born 15 Mar 1843 in Dundonald, Ayrshire, Scotland FHL Film 1041340; died 27 May 1938 in Irvine, Ayrshire, Scotland. She married John FULTON; born Abt. 1839 in Irvine, Ayrshire, Scotland?. 44 viii. Agnes JONES, born 17 Aug 1847 in Kilwinning, Ayrshire, Scotland FHL Film 1041389; died Bef. Apr 1881 in Saltcoats, Ayr, Scotland?. 10. Gilbert3 JONES (Gilbert2, John1) was born 06 May 1810 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland FHL Film 1041337. He married Isabella BRYDON 16 Sep 1831 in Dalzellhowie, Kiroswald, Ayr, Scotland M116014, daughter of James BRYDEN and Catherine GRAY. She was born 14 Apr 1813 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland. More About Gilbert JONES: Occupation: Jun 1841, Coal miner at 38 Path Head, Daiily, Ayr, Scotland More About Gilbert JONES and Isabella BRYDON: Marriage: 16 Sep 1831, Dalzellhowie, Kiroswald, Ayr, Scotland M116014 Children of Gilbert JONES and Isabella BRYDON are: 45 i. James4 JONES, born 13 Oct 1831 in Kirkoswald, Ayrshire, Scotland FHL Film 1041391. 46 ii. Jane JONES, born 29 Sep 1833 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland C115854. 47 iii. Elizabeth JONES, born 15 Sep 1835 in Kirkoswald, Ayrshire, Scotland FHL Film 1041391; died Bef. 1844. 48 iv. Catherine JONES, born 24 Jan 1838 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland C115854 & FHL Film 1041337. 49 v. Hugh Notman Brydon JONES, born 05 Jan 1840 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland FHL Film 1041337. 50 vi. John JONES, born 12 May 1842 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland FHL Film 1041337. 51 vii. Agnes JONES, born 07 May 1844 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland C115854 & FHL Film 1041337. 52 viii. Elizabeth JONES, born 29 Nov 1844 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland C115854. 53 ix. Gilbert JONES, born 03 Jul 1846 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland FHL Film 1041337; died in not sure correct Gilbert. 54 x. Isabella JONES, born 24 Sep 1850 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland C115854 & FHL Film 1041337. 55 xi. Alexander JONES, born 18 Nov 1852 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland FHL Film 1041337. 56 xii. William JONES, born 27 May 1855 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland. 11. Jane3 JONES (Gilbert2, John1) was born 22 Dec 1812 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland C115852 & FHL Film 1041337. She married John BRECKENRIDGE, son of William BRECKENRIDGE and Agnes KERR. He was born Abt. 07 Jan 1810 in Maybole, Ayrshire, Scotland 7103925. Child of Jane JONES and John BRECKENRIDGE is: 57 i. Agnes4 BRECKENRIDGE, born 23 Nov 1834 in Kirkoswald / Maybole, Ayrshire, Scotland 1851 Census / C116054. 13. James3 JONES (Gilbert2, John1) was born 03 May 1817 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland FHL Film 1041337. He married Jane (Hypson / Hipson) HOPSON 19 Jul 1839 in Maybole / Kirkoswald, Ayr, Scotland M116054 / M116014. She was born Abt. 1818 in Kirkoswald, Ayr, Scotland, and died 1850 in Kirkoswald, Ayr, Scotland. More About James JONES: Occupation 1: Apr 1851, Coalminer at Kirkoswald, Ayr, Scotland Occupation 2: Jun 1841, Coal miner at Kirkoswald Occupation 3: 1881, General lbourer at Gowan Croft 2, Kirkoswald More About Jane (Hypson / Hipson) HOPSON: Date born 2: Abt. 1818, Kirkoswald, Ayrshire, Scotland ? More About James JONES and Jane HOPSON: Marriage: 19 Jul 1839, Maybole / Kirkoswald, Ayr, Scotland M116054 / M116014 Children of James JONES and Jane HOPSON are: 58 i. Elizabeth Alexander4 JONES, born 11 Oct 1839 in Kirkoswald, Ayrshire, Scotland FHL Film 1041391. 59 ii. June (Jane) JONES, born 17 Dec 1840 in Kirkoswald, Ayrshire, Scotland FHL Film 1041391. 60 iii. Alexander JONES, born 05 Jul 1842 in Kirkoswald, Ayrshire, Scotland FHL Film 1041391. 61 iv. Janet JONES, born 22 Apr 1844 in Kirkoswald, Ayrshire, Scotland FHL Film 1041391. 62 v. Eleanora (Helen) Angel Brydon JONES, born 16 Dec 1845 in Kirkoswald, Ayrshire, Scotland FHL Film 1041391. 63 vi. Agnes JONES, born 18 Aug 1847 in Kirkoswald, Ayrshire, Scotland FHL Film 1041391. 64 vii. Margaret JONES, born 11 Feb 1850 in Kirkoswald, Ayrshire, Scotland FHL Film 1041391. 15. Alexander3 JONES (Gilbert2, John1) was born 06 Mar 1822 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland FHL Film 1041337, and died Bef. 1881. He married Margaret CRAIG 14 Jan 1844 in Kirkoswald, Ayrshire, Scotland M116014. She was born Abt. 1826 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland. More About Alexander JONES: Date born 2: Abt. 1819, Kirkoswald, Ayrshire, Scotland? Occupation: Apr 1851, Coal Miner at Kirkoswald More About Margaret CRAIG: Occupation: 1881, Living at Haggis Row, Kirkoswald More About Alexander JONES and Margaret CRAIG: Marriage: 14 Jan 1844, Kirkoswald, Ayrshire, Scotland M116014 Children of Alexander JONES and Margaret CRAIG are: 65 i. Sarah4 JONES, born 13 Jan 1844 in Kirkoswald, Ayrshire, Scotland FHL Film 1041391. 66 ii. John JONES, born 05 Nov 1845 in Kirkoswald, Ayrshire, Scotland FHL Film 1041391. 67 iii. William JONES, born 14 Jun 1849 in Kirkoswald, Ayrshire, Scotland FHL Film 1041391. 68 iv. Alexander JONES, born 09 Jun 1864 in Kirkoswald, Ayr, Scotland C116011. More About Alexander JONES: Occupation: 181, Gen lab at Kirkosward 18. Agnes3 JONES (Gilbert2, John1) was born 23 Jun 1832 in Kirkoswald, Ayrshire, Scotland FHL Film 1041391. She married William CAMPBELL 14 Jul 1848 in Maybole, Ayr, Scotland M116054. He was born 1830 in Kirkoswald, Ayrshire, Scotland Re 1881 Census. More About William CAMPBELL: Occupation: Apr 1881, Farm servant at 1 Bogside Cot Houses, Maybole, Ayr, Scotland More About William CAMPBELL and Agnes JONES: Marriage: 14 Jul 1848, Maybole, Ayr, Scotland M116054 Children of Agnes JONES and William CAMPBELL are: 69 i. Thomas4 CAMPBELL, born 1849 in Kirkoswald, Ayrshire, Scotland Re 1851 Census. 70 ii. Isabella CAMPBELL, born 04 Nov 1861 in Kirkoswald, Ayrshire, Scotland Re 1881 Census & C116011. 71 iii. William CAMPBELL, born 17 Jun 1864 in Kirkoswald, Ayrshire, Scotland C116011. 72 iv. James CAMPBELL, born 05 Feb 1870 in Kirkoswald, Ayrshire, Scotland Re 1881 Census & C116011. 73 v. Robert CAMPBELL, born 31 Oct 1871 in Kirkoswald, Ayrshire, Scotland Re 1881 Census & C116011. 20. John3 JONES (David2, John1) was born 08 Jun 1816 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland FHL Film 1041337 Re 1851/ 1861 Census. He married Violet (KEY McKIE McKUE ) McKEY 08 Feb 1839 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland M115854. She was born 1815 in Colmonell, Ayr, Scotland Re 1851 Census. More About John JONES: Burial: Granddaughter Janet Jones b 1873 Lasswade, Edinburgh Fact: 1861, At shotts with wife Vilolet and daughter Joannna Occupation 1: 1881, Colliery manager(retired) living at Burnbank Cottage, John St., Carluke, Lanark, Scotland Occupation 2: Jun 1841, Coal miner living at Low Stables, Dailly, Ayr, Scotland More About John JONES and Violet McKEY: Marriage: 08 Feb 1839, Dailly, Ayr, Scotland M115854 Children of John JONES and Violet McKEY are: 74 i. Joanna4 JONES, born 04 Sep 1839 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland C115854; died Bef. Jun 1841 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland. 75 ii. David JONES, born 12 Mar 1841 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland FHL Film 1041337 & 1841/61 Census. 76 iii. Mary JONES, born 16 Dec 1842 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland C115854 & FHL Film 1041337. More About Mary JONES: Fact: 1861, At Cambusnethan 77 iv. Joanna JONES, born 20 May 1845 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland C115854 & 1851 / 1961 Census. 78 v. John JONES, born 13 May 1849 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland FHL Film 1041337. 79 vi. James JONES, born 31 Oct 1849 in Carluke, Lanarkshire, Scotland FHL Film 1042969. 80 vii. William JONES, born 19 Jun 1851 in Carluke, Lanarkshire, Scotland FHL Film 1042969 & 1861 Census. 81 viii. Janet JONES, born 05 Jan 1854 in Carluke, Lanarkshire, Scotland FHL Film 1042969 & 1861 Census. 82 ix. Violet JONES, born 15 Jun 1856 in Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland C116281. 21. Alexander3 JONES (David2, John1) was born 09 Jun 1818 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland FHL Film 1041337, and died 30 Oct 1888 in Kilbirnie Cottage, Dalquarran. He married Margaret ALEXANDER 15 Oct 1841 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland 7318008, daughter of Andrew ALEXANDER and Margaret LYON. She was born 08 May 1817 in Plantinhead, Dailly, Ayr, Scotland Re 1881 Census, and died 14 Mar 1902 in Heather Row, Dailly. More About Alexander JONES: Date born 2: 1818, Dailly, Ayr, Scotland Re 1881 Census Occupation 1: 1881, Coal Miner living at Old Brickwork, Dailly Occupation 2: 1841, Coal miner at Howsmount, Daiily, Ayr, Scotland Occupation 3: 1861, Coal cutter at Dailly More About Alexander JONES and Margaret ALEXANDER: Marriage: 15 Oct 1841, Dailly, Ayr, Scotland 7318008 Children of Alexander JONES and Margaret ALEXANDER are: 83 i. Andrew4 JONES, born 27 Oct 1841 in Dailly, Ayrshire, Scotland FHL Film 1041337; died 28 Jun 1903 in Heather Row, Dailly. 84 ii. David JONES, born 21 Mar 1843 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland FHL Film 1041337; died 18 Dec 1890 in Nursery, Dailly. 85 iii. Margaret JONES, born 12 Nov 1844 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland C115854; died 01 May 1908 in Muirkirk, Ayr, Scotland. 86 iv. Unknown JONES, born Abt. 1845 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland. 87 v. Joanna JONES, born 28 Aug 1846 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland C115854; died 22 Jan 1885 in Ayr, Hospital, Ayr, Scotland. 88 vi. Elizabeth JONES, born 23 May 1848 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland C115854; died 22 Jan 1900 in Ayr, Ayr, Scotland. 89 vii. Mary McCrindle JONES, born 07 Oct 1850 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland C115854; died 23 Dec 1925 in Ayr, Ayr, Scotland. 90 viii. Janet JONES, born 20 Mar 1853 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland C115854; died 01 Aug 1912 in Colinton. 91 ix. John JONES, born 21 Apr 1855 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland Re 1881 Census; died 24 Jun 1926 in Main St., Dailly. 92 x. William JONES, born 27 Mar 1860 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland Re 1881; died 08 Sep 1924 in Glasgow. 93 xi. Alexander JONES, born 31 Oct 1863 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland Re 1881 C115851; died 15 Oct 1917. He married Martha CAMPBELL; born Abt. 1865; died 23 Oct 1901. 94 xii. Jane (Jean) Ross JONES, born 18 Nov 1857 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland Re 1861 Census; died 23 Oct 1944 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland - 2nd wife of John WASON. 23. Joanna3 JONES (David2, John1) was born 23 Oct 1822 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland C115854 & 1841 Census, and died 06 Jul 1848 in New Stables, Dalquarran,Daily, Ayr, Scotland. She married John RUSK 21 Apr 1843 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland, son of John RUSK and Mary ARMSTRONG. He was born Abt. 1822 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland?. More About Joanna JONES: Date born 2: 23 Oct 1822 More About John RUSK and Joanna JONES: Marriage 1: 21 Apr 1843, Dailly, Ayr, Scotland Marriage 2: 21 Apr 1842, Dailly, Ayr, Scotland M115854 Children of Joanna JONES and John RUSK are: 95 i. Mary4 RUSK, born 25 Oct 1843. 96 ii. David RUSK, born 21 Jan 1845 in Ayrshire. More About David RUSK: Occupation: 1861, Coal miner at High Stables, Dailly 97 iii. John RUSK, born 12 Dec 1846. 98 iv. David Thomas RUSK, born 12 Jan 1848 in Ayrshire, Scotland; died 04 Sep 1921 in Ravenden Springs, AR, USA. He married Minnie Nora KNOX 1874 in Sparta, Randolph Co., Illinois, USA; born Abt. 1853; died 03 May 1934 in Kingman. Notes for David Thomas RUSK: Notes for DAVID THOMAS RUSK: David Rusk, a jeweler at Charleston, was born in Ayrshire, Scotland, in 1848, and is a son of John and Johanna (Jones) Rusk, natives of Scotland. the former was a cabinet-maker, which trade he followed the most of his life. His wife died in Scotland, and he afterward immigrated to America in 1851. He located in Maryland, and remained a few years, when he removed to Sparta, Ill., where he died. He was the father of six children. David was but three years of age when his mother died, and he was left with his relatives in Scotland, when his father came to America. He received a liberal education in Ayshire, and in 1864 took passage on a steamer at Liverpool, for New York, where he landed after a seven days' voyage. He went from there to St. Louis, and from thence to Sparta, Ill., where he finished learning the watchmaker's trade, which he had previously undertaken. He remained in Sparta until 1875, when he came to Charleston and engaged in business on his own account. Although ! he began on a small scale, he has built up a good trade and now has a large stock of jewelry, etc. In 1874 he was united in marriage with Nora Knox, a native of Illinois, of German descent. Four children have been born to them: Eddie, Minnie, Maggie and an infant daughter. Mr. and Mrs. Rusk are members of the Methodist Episcopal Church South. He is a member of the I. O. O. F. and the K. of P. In politics he is a Democrat, and has served as city councilman two terms. More About David Thomas RUSK: Burial: See notes More About Minnie Nora KNOX: Burial: Kingman, KS Cemetery More About David RUSK and Minnie KNOX: Marriage: 1874, Sparta, Randolph Co., Illinois, USA 25. Margaret3 JONES (David2, John1) was born 27 Dec 1827 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland C115854 & 1841 Census. She married John McILLWRAITH. He was born 1832 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland. More About John McILLWRAITH: Occupation: 1861, Coal Miner at High Stables, Dailly, AYr, Scotland Children of Margaret JONES and John McILLWRAITH are: 99 i. Thomas4 McILLWRAITH, born 1854 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland. 100 ii. David McILLWRAITH, born 1856 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland. 101 iii. Elizabeth McILLWRAITH, born 1858 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland. Generation No. 4 27. David Brydan4 JONES (John3, Gilbert2, John1) was born 23 Jun 1828 in Kirkoswald, Ayrshire, Scotland FHL Film 1041391 & 1881 Census, and died 1896 in Kilmaurs, Ayr, Scotland. He married Mary MANTELL 31 May 1850 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland M115854, daughter of David MANTELL and Mary HAMILTON. She was born 1834 in Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Re 1841 / 1861 Census. More About David Brydan JONES: Fact: 1861, At East Kilbride Occupation 1: 1881, Coal miner at Dreghorn Occupation 2: Apr 1851, Collier at 12 Dean St., Kerrs Land, Kilmarnock More About Mary MANTELL: Occupation: Apr 1861, Wife and muslin sewer. More About David JONES and Mary MANTELL: Marriage: 31 May 1850, Dailly, Ayr, Scotland M115854 Children of David JONES and Mary MANTELL are: 102 i. Marion5 JONES, born 1851 in Kilmarnock, Ayr,Scotland Re 1861 Census. 103 ii. Sophia JONES, born 1859 in East Kilbride, Lanark, Scotland Re 1861 / 1881. 104 iii. John JONES, born 1862 in East Kilbride, Lanark, Scotland Re 1861 / 188. 105 iv. Catherine JONES, born 1865 in East Kilbride, Lanark, Scotland Re 1871 Census. 106 v. Mary JONES, born 15 Apr 1870 in Kilmaurs, Ayr, Scotland C115981. 32. John4 JONES (John3, Gilbert2, John1) was born 18 Jun 1837 in Kirkoswald, Ayrshire, Scotland FHL Film 1041391. He married Marion STEEL. She was born 1842 in Stewarton, Ayr, Scotland Re 1881 Census. More About John JONES: Date born 2: 1837, Kirkoswald, Ayrshire, Scotland Re 1881 Census Occupation: 1881, Coal miner at Kilmaurs Children of John JONES and Marion STEEL are: 107 i. John5 JONES, born 14 Mar 1866 in Kilmaurs, Ayr, Scotland C115981. 108 ii. Mary JONES, born 29 Jan 1868 in Kilmaurs, Ayr, Scotland C115981. 109 iii. James JONES, born 06 Feb 1870 in Kilmaurs, Ayr, Scotland C115981. 110 iv. Ellen JONES, born 09 Jan 1872 in Kilmaurs, Ayr, Scotland C115981. 111 v. Helen JONES, born 19 Mar 1874 in Kilmaurs, Ayr, Scotland C115981. 39. Gilbert4 JONES (David3, Gilbert2, John1) was born 27 Jan 1833 in Kirkoswald, Ayrshire, Scotland FHL Film 1041391. He married Jane WILSON. She was born 1840 in Kilwinning, Ayr, Scotland. More About Jane WILSON: Burial: Also gdau Jane Bannatyne b Kilwinning 1879 Occupation: 1881, Living at black house , Kilwinning Children of Gilbert JONES and Jane WILSON are: 112 i. David5 JONES, born 11 Jun 1859 in Kilwinning, Ayr, Scotland C115991. 113 ii. Mary JONES, born 07 Dec 1860 in Kilwinning, Ayr, Scotland C115991. More About Mary JONES: Occupation: 1881, Servant at Valleyfield Dairy, Tongland, Kirkcudbright, Scotland 114 iii. Thomas JONES, born 31 May 1862 in Kilwinning, Ayr, Scotland C115991 & 1881 Census. More About Thomas JONES: Occupation: 1881, Coal miner at Kilwinning 115 iv. John JONES, born 11 Dec 1863 in Kilwinning, Ayr, Scotland C115991 & 1881 Census. More About John JONES: Occupation: 1881, Coal miner at Kilwinning 116 v. Gilbert JONES, born 06 Sep 1865 in Kilwinning, Ayr, Scotland C115991 & 1881 Census. More About Gilbert JONES: Occupation: 181, Coal miner at Kilwinning 117 vi. Janet Ross JONES, born 06 Mar 1866 in Stevenson, Ayr, Scotland C116151. 118 vii. Janet Ross JONES, born 26 Jun 1867 in Kilwinning, Ayr, Scotland C115991. 119 viii. Elizabeth Wilson JONES, born 24 Aug 1869 in Kilwinning, Ayr, Scotland C115991 & 1881 Census. 120 ix. Jane JONES, born 06 Jan 1872 in Kilwinning, Ayr, Scotland C115991 & 1881 Census. 121 x. James White JONES, born 26 Nov 1873 in Kilwinning, Ayr, Scotland C115991 & 1881 Census. 122 xi. Andrew JONES, born 1879 in Kilwinning, Ayr, Scotland. 40. David4 JONES (David3, Gilbert2, John1) was born 1837 in Kirkoswald, Ayr, Scotland Re 1881 Census. He married Catherine FARMER 31 Dec 1863 in Kilwinning, Ayr, Scotland M115991. She was born Abt. 1842 in Kilwinning, Ayr, Scotland ?, and died Bef. Apr 1881 in Tanyard, Kilwinning?. More About David JONES: Occupation: Apr 1881, Coal Miner at Tanyard, Kilwinning More About David JONES and Catherine FARMER: Marriage: 31 Dec 1863, Kilwinning, Ayr, Scotland M115991 Children of David JONES and Catherine FARMER are: 123 i. Sophia Maize5 JONES, born 1864 in Holytown, Lanark, Scotland. 124 ii. Rosanna JONES, born 09 Jan 1865 in Kilwinning, Ayr, Scotland C115991. 125 iii. Janet Ross JONES, born 06 Mar 1866 in Stevenson, Ayr, Scotland C116151. 126 iv. Mary Farmer JONES, born 07 Dec 1867 in Kilwinning, Ayr, Scotland. 127 v. Jane Wilson JONES, born 22 Dec 1869 in Kilwinning, Ayr, Scotland C115991. 128 vi. Sarah JONES, born 09 Dec 1871 in Kilwinning, Ayrshire, Scotland C115991. 44. Agnes4 JONES (David3, Gilbert2, John1) was born 17 Aug 1847 in Kilwinning, Ayrshire, Scotland FHL Film 1041389, and died Bef. Apr 1881 in Saltcoats, Ayr, Scotland?. She married David McKINNON 07 Jun 1873 in Mill-End, Kilwinning, Ayr, Scotland. He was born 1848 in Saltcoats, Ayr, Scotland. More About David McKINNON: Occupation: 1881, Baker lodging in Glasgow More About David McKINNON and Agnes JONES: Marriage: 07 Jun 1873, Mill-End, Kilwinning, Ayr, Scotland Child of Agnes JONES and David McKINNON is: 129 i. Agnes5 McKINNON, born 11 Jun 1874 in Saltcoats, Ayr, Scotland C115761 & 1881 Census. 45. James4 JONES (Gilbert3, Gilbert2, John1) was born 13 Oct 1831 in Kirkoswald, Ayrshire, Scotland FHL Film 1041391. He married Margaret SMITH. She was born Abt. 1832 in Coylton, Ayrshire, Scotland ?. Children of James JONES and Margaret SMITH are: 130 i. Anne5 JONES, born 25 Feb 1853 in Coylton, Ayrshire, Scotland FHL Film 1041336. 131 ii. Isabella JONES, born 14 Aug 1863 in Riccarton, Ayr, Scotland C116111. 132 iii. Gilbert JONES, born 02 Jan 1855 in Coylton, Ayrshire, Scotland C115851. 53. Gilbert4 JONES (Gilbert3, Gilbert2, John1) was born 03 Jul 1846 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland FHL Film 1041337, and died in not sure correct Gilbert. He married Isabella McNEIL 14 Jun 1867 in Stevenston, Ayr, Scotland M115151. She was born Abt. 1846 in Stevenston, Ayr, Scotland?. More About Gilbert JONES and Isabella McNEIL: Marriage: 14 Jun 1867, Stevenston, Ayr, Scotland M115151 Child of Gilbert JONES and Isabella McNEIL is: 133 i. Isabella5 JONES, born 24 Jan 1868 in Stevenston, Ayr, Scotland C116151. 67. William4 JONES (Alexander3, Gilbert2, John1) was born 14 Jun 1849 in Kirkoswald, Ayrshire, Scotland FHL Film 1041391. He married Elizabeth GILMOUR. She was born Abt. 1853 in Maybole, Ayr, Scotland?. Child of William JONES and Elizabeth GILMOUR is: 134 i. William5 JONES, born 05 Feb 1869 in Maybole, Ayr, Scotland C116051. 69. Thomas4 CAMPBELL (Agnes3 JONES, Gilbert2, John1) was born 1849 in Kirkoswald, Ayrshire, Scotland Re 1851 Census. He married Eliza Unknown(CAMPBELL). She was born 1852 in Saltcoats, Ayr, Scotland. More About Thomas CAMPBELL: Occupation: Apr 1881, Ploughman at Drumburie Offices, Dailly, Ayr, Scotland Children of Thomas CAMPBELL and Eliza Unknown(CAMPBELL) are: 135 i. Elizabeth5 CAMPBELL, born 1869 in Saltcoats, Ayr, Scotland. 136 ii. William CAMPBELL, born 1873 in Saltcoats, Ayr, Scotland. 137 iii. Thomas CAMPBELL, born 1875 in Saltcoats, Ayr, Scotland. 138 iv. Jane Dale CAMPBELL, born Abt. Jun 1880 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland. 75. David4 JONES (John3, David2, John1) was born 12 Mar 1841 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland FHL Film 1041337 & 1841/61 Census. He married Jessie HOGG, daughter of James HOGG and Elizabeth INGLIS. She was born 13 Aug 1843 in Shotts / Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland Re C116555 / 1881 Census. More About David JONES: Fact: 1851, At Carluke Occupation: 1881, Colliery oversman at Lasswade, Midlothian More About Jessie HOGG: Date born 2: 1843 Children of David JONES and Jessie HOGG are: 139 i. Elizabeth Inglis5 JONES, born 18 Nov 1866 in Calderhead, Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland C119171. She married William John MONRO 11 Jul 1890 in Glengarnock Iron Works , Kilbirnie, Ayr, Scotland Re BDMs; born Abt. 1862 in of Bonnyrigg, Midlothian. More About William MONRO and Elizabeth JONES: Marriage: 11 Jul 1890, Glengarnock Iron Works , Kilbirnie, Ayr, Scotland Re BDMs 140 ii. John JONES, born 29 Oct 1868 in Lasswade, Edinburgh, Scotland C116911. 141 iii. Margaret Hogg JONES, born 17 Oct 1870 in Lasswade, Edinburgh, Scotland C116911. She married James W WALKER 12 Apr 1895 in Glengarnock, Kilbirnie, Ayr, Scotland Re BDMs; born Abt. 1866 in Glengarnock, Kilbirnie, Ayr, Scotland?. More About James WALKER and Margaret JONES: Marriage: 12 Apr 1895, Glengarnock, Kilbirnie, Ayr, Scotland Re BDMs 142 iv. James Hogg JONES, born 07 Feb 1873 in Laswade / Newbattle,, Edinburgh, Scotland 1881 Census / C116951. 143 v. William JONES, born 1880 in Lasswade, Edinburgh, Scotland C116911. 82. Violet4 JONES (John3, David2, John1) was born 15 Jun 1856 in Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland C116281. She married Andrew BROOKS. He was born 1850 in Carluke, Lanarkshire, Scotland FRe 1881 census. More About Andrew BROOKS: Occupation: 1881, Cabinet maker at Stewart St., Carluke Child of Violet JONES and Andrew BROOKS is: 144 i. Robert5 BROOKS, born Oct 1880 in Carluke, Lanarkshire, Scotland Re 1881 Census. 83. Andrew4 JONES (Alexander3, David2, John1) was born 27 Oct 1841 in Dailly, Ayrshire, Scotland FHL Film 1041337, and died 28 Jun 1903 in Heather Row, Dailly. He married Rosina MARTIN 24 Jun 1863 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland, daughter of Alexander MARTIN and Elizabeth STEWART. She was born 1842 in Ireland, and died 06 Aug 1888 in Heather Row, Dailly. More About Andrew JONES: Occupation: Miner at Heather Row, Dailly, Ayrshire, Scotland More About Andrew JONES and Rosina MARTIN: Marriage: 24 Jun 1863, Dailly, Ayr, Scotland Children of Andrew JONES and Rosina MARTIN are: 145 i. Alexander5 JONES, born 01 May 1864 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland C115851. 146 ii. Andrew JONES, born 12 Oct 1865 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland; died 12 Oct 1927 in Keewatin, Ontario - emigrated in 1906. 147 iii. Elizabeth JONES, born 11 Jun 1867 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland; died 02 Feb 1935 in Bridgeend, Crosshill. 148 iv. Robert Martin JONES, born 06 Dec 1869 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland; died 24 Dec 1948 in Nursery, Dailly. 149 v. David JONES, born 06 Nov 1870 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland C115851 & 1881 Census; died 09 Aug 1954. He married Agnes Mathieson EDDIE 07 Nov 1909 in Wellington, New Zealand; born 25 Dec 1879 in Lessendrum, Drumblade. More About David JONES and Agnes EDDIE: Marriage: 07 Nov 1909, Wellington, New Zealand 150 vi. John JONES, born 19 Feb 1872 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland; died 20 Feb 1972 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland. 151 vii. Margaret JONES, born 18 Mar 1873 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland; died 11 Jun 1956. 152 viii. James JONES, born 24 Jun 1874 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland. He married Barbara SHEARER 1894 in Stair, Ayr, Scotland; born 1870 in Dallmellington, Ayr, Scotland. More About James JONES and Barbara SHEARER: Marriage: 1894, Stair, Ayr, Scotland 153 ix. John JONES, born 05 Oct 1875 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland. 154 x. Unknown JONES, born 21 Apr 1877 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland; died 21 Apr 1877 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland. 155 xi. William Martin JONES, born 17 Jan 1878 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland; died 03 Jul 1959. 156 xii. Thomas Dunlop JONES, born 06 Aug 1879 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland; died 05 Nov 1951 in Troon. He married Elizabeth Layburn DALE; born 19 May 1878 in Rutherglen, Lanark,Scotland; died 14 Nov 1946 in Troon. 157 xiii. Stewart JONES, born 08 Jan 1881 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland; died 21 Jun 1957 in Townholm, Kilmarnock. 158 xiv. Primrose JONES, born 03 Jul 1885 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland; died 28 Oct 1969 in Millbank Row, Dreghorn. 159 xv. Unknown JONES, born 10 Apr 1883 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland; died 13 Apr 1886. 160 xvi. Rosanna JONES, born 02 Mar 1885 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland; died 28 May 1885 in Heather Row, Dailly. 84. David4 JONES (Alexander3, David2, John1) was born 21 Mar 1843 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland FHL Film 1041337, and died 18 Dec 1890 in Nursery, Dailly. He married Jane KENNEDY 07 Dec 1866 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland M115851. She was born 1844 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland, and died 08 Oct 1932. More About David JONES: Occupation: 1881, Coal miner living at Kilcase, Dailly, Ayr, Scotland More About David JONES and Jane KENNEDY: Marriage: 07 Dec 1866, Dailly, Ayr, Scotland M115851 Children of David JONES and Jane KENNEDY are: 161 i. Rosina5 JONES, born 26 Sep 1867 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland. 162 ii. Margaret Alexander JONES, born 16 Mar 1870 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland. 163 iii. Agnes JONES, born 17 Apr 1872 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland. 164 iv. Alexander JONES, born 07 Jun 1875 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland; died 10 Jun 1879. 165 v. Francis Kennedy JONES, born 18 Apr 1878 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland. 166 vi. Alexander JONES, born 16 Feb 1881 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland. 167 vii. David JONES, born 1883 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland; died 20 May 1886 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland. 168 viii. Jeannie JONES, born 01 Nov 1887 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland; died 19 Jun 1890 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland. 85. Margaret4 JONES (Alexander3, David2, John1) was born 12 Nov 1844 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland C115854, and died 01 May 1908 in Muirkirk, Ayr, Scotland. She married John McCHESNIE. He was born 1847 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland, and died 26 Mar 1916. More About John McCHESNIE: Occupation: Apr 1881, Coal miner at Kilmarnock Children of Margaret JONES and John McCHESNIE are: 169 i. Alexander5 McCHESNIE, born Abt. 1865 in Crookedholm, Ayr, Scotland; died 03 Dec 1894. 170 ii. James McCHESNIE, born 1876 in Crookedholm, Ayr, Scotland. 171 iii. Hugh McCHESNIE, born Abt. Sep 1880 in Crookedholm, Ayr, Scotland. 172 iv. David McCHESNIE, born Abt. 1882 in Crookedholm, Ayr, Scotland?. 173 v. Janet McCHESNIE, born Abt. 1884 in Crookedholm, Ayr, Scotland?. 86. Unknown4 JONES (Alexander3, David2, John1) was born Abt. 1845 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland. Children of Unknown JONES are: 174 i. John5 JONES, born 1870 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland. 175 ii. James JONES, born 1872 in Kirmarnock, Ayr, Scotland. 176 iii. Margaret A JONES, born 1877 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland. 94. Jane (Jean) Ross4 JONES (Alexander3, David2, John1) was born 18 Nov 1857 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland Re 1861 Census, and died 23 Oct 1944 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland - 2nd wife of John WASON. She married John WASON, son of Catherine Unknown(WASON). He was born 1838 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland, and died 01 Apr 1923 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland. More About John WASON: Occupation: Apr 1881, Grocer & Coal Miner living at Bridgend 8, Dailly Child of Jane JONES and John WASON is: 177 i. John5 WASON, born Abt. 1897 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland; died 17 Aug 1918 in Ayr Hospital, Ayr, Scotland. Generation No. 5 102. Marion5 JONES (David Brydan4, John3, Gilbert2, John1) was born 1851 in Kilmarnock, Ayr,Scotland Re 1861 Census. Children of Marion JONES are: 178 i. David6 JONES, born 10 Aug 1867 in East Kilbride, Lanark, Scotland C116431. 179 ii. Marion JONES, born 19 Mar 1874 in Kilmaurs, Ayr, Scotland C115981. 180 iii. Andrew JONES, born 1878 in Nitshill, Renfrew, Scotland Re 1881 Census. 104. John5 JONES (David Brydan4, John3, Gilbert2, John1) was born 1862 in East Kilbride, Lanark, Scotland Re 1861 / 188. He married Janet Cuthbert McVICAR 1899, daughter of Dougald McVICAR and Amelia BLAIR. She was born 1863 in Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland, and died in Note: only one on 1881 Census. More About Janet Cuthbert McVICAR: Occupation: Apr 1881, Dressmaker at 17 James St., Edinburgh More About John JONES and Janet McVICAR: Marriage: 1899 Children of John JONES and Janet McVICAR are: 181 i. Hugh McVicor6 JONES, born 1903. 182 ii. Mary Mantell JONES, born 13 Aug 1905. She married Farnk Leslie COX; born Abt. 1899. 183 iii. David JONES, born Abt. 1907. 184 iv. Helen JONES, born Abt. 1909. 185 v. John JONES, born Abt. 1911. 145. Alexander5 JONES (Andrew4, Alexander3, David2, John1) was born 01 May 1864 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland C115851. More About Alexander JONES: Occupation: Builder in Belfast Children of Alexander JONES are: 186 i. Ena6 JONES, born Abt. 1889 in Belfast?. 187 ii. William JONES, born Abt. 1892 in Belfast?. 146. Andrew5 JONES (Andrew4, Alexander3, David2, John1) was born 12 Oct 1865 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland, and died 12 Oct 1927 in Keewatin, Ontario - emigrated in 1906. He married Janet Alexander GIBSON 31 Dec 1891 in Maybole, Ayr, Scotland, daughter of David GIBSON and Elizabeth ANDERSON. She was born 31 Dec 1855, and died 1919. More About Andrew JONES: Occupation: Stonemason More About Andrew JONES and Janet GIBSON: Marriage: 31 Dec 1891, Maybole, Ayr, Scotland Children of Andrew JONES and Janet GIBSON are: 188 i. Andrew6 JONES, born 1892 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland; died 06 Aug 1975 in Ontario. 189 ii. Elizabeth JONES, born 1895 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland; died 1923 in Ontario. 190 iii. Rosina JONES, born 29 Sep 1898 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland; died 17 Jan 1902 in Drongan, Ayrshire. 148. Robert Martin5 JONES (Andrew4, Alexander3, David2, John1) was born 06 Dec 1869 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland, and died 24 Dec 1948 in Nursery, Dailly. He married Mary SHEARER 10 Jun 1892 in Dreghorn, Ayr, Scotland, daughter of Robert SHEARER and Barbara ROWAN. She was born 29 Aug 1866 in North Kilpatrick, Lanark,Scotland, and died 07 Oct 1952 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland. More About Robert JONES and Mary SHEARER: Marriage: 10 Jun 1892, Dreghorn, Ayr, Scotland Child of Robert JONES and Mary SHEARER is: 191 i. Rossana Martin6 JONES, born Abt. 02 Aug 1885 in Stair, Ayrshire, Scotland Re : Bapt Record. 151. Margaret5 JONES (Andrew4, Alexander3, David2, John1) was born 18 Mar 1873 in Dailly, Ayr, Scotland, and died 11 Jun 1956. She married Andrew McBRIDE. He was born Abt. 1875, and died 10 May 1960. Child of Margaret JONES and Andrew McBRIDE is: 192 i. John6 McBRIDE, born 1896; died 06 May 1912 in France. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. 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I am trying to decipher a record for Matthew Wylie b. Oct. 9, 1728, OPR Births 592/0010 0212 Fenwick. Since it says baptism at the end of the record, I assume this is the day he was baptized. Were the children usually baptized the same day they were born or how does one figure out the birthdate? Nonetheless this record says something that looks like " in Groo or Grod was baptized". What is the Groo or Grod? An area - and which one is correct, if either? Thank you. Elaine Sharp

hoping that someone may be researching the descendants of Thomas WALKER and Margaret WALLACE who were married in Stewarton in 1796 kind regards Brian Johnson

Jim, you may have inadvertently answered a different question for me. Do you think that, in the case of twins where one was frail and the other not, baptism for the frail child would be done quickly and the other done after a month's time? I have a case elsewhere in Scotland where what appears to be one man had two children baptized one month apart. I don't think it's a case where one record was wrongly transcribed because the two records differ in both the month and the day. Loretta -----Original Message----- From: ayrshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ayrshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jim Bundy Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 2:08 PM To: bellemarco@gmail.com; Rootsweb Ayrshire Subject: Re: [AYR] Help with town name - Fenwick Hi Elaine, I wonder if the word in "Grie", a farm within the Fenwick parish. My experience is that most babies were baptized at around 1 month old, but that if they were frail, they may have been baptized much sooner. It was a fear that if the child died unbaptized, they couldn't receive salvation, a horrible prospect for people in those times. Jim Bundy

Hi Elaine, I wonder if the word in "Grie", a farm within the Fenwick parish. My experience is that most babies were baptized at around 1 month old, but that if they were frail, they may have been baptized much sooner. It was a fear that if the child died unbaptized, they couldn't receive salvation, a horrible prospect for people in those times. Jim Bundy -------------------------------------------------- From: <bellemarco@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 8:41 AM To: "Rootsweb Ayrshire" <AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Subject: [AYR] Help with town name - Fenwick > I am trying to decipher a record for Matthew Wylie b. Oct. 9, 1728, OPR > Births 592/0010 0212 Fenwick. Since it says baptism at the end of the > record, I assume this is the day he was baptized. Were the children > usually > baptized the same day they were born or how does one figure out the > birthdate? Nonetheless this record says something that looks like " in > Groo > or Grod was baptized". What is the Groo or Grod? An area - and which one > is > correct, if either? > > Thank you. > Elaine Sharp > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sharpi52 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14019.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: O kay, my husband says that the Jones came from Tellicutri near Stirling.So this family must not be them? sharpi Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.