This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ewarnockwilson Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/4020.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I had an uncle Andrew Warnock Howden Farm Holytown Lanarkshire Scotland born about 1925ish he was my father Hugh Warnock's brother other children Grace,John and George Mother: Christina Carswell 1881 father: George Warnock 1880 at Howden farm Christinas parents were George and Grace Carswell George's mother Margaret Warnock Maybe there is some connection Liz Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lorraineweaver55 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14027.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi I found the marriage by just searching for Catherine's name. Go to Scotland's People search marriages 1855-2006, you can then download the marriage certificate for 5 credits. It should show you both sets of parents & whether deceased, also fathers occupation. Blackfiers is a district of Glasgow. Good Luck!!! Let us know how you get on. Cheers Lorraine Cairns QLD Australia Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lorraineshaw777 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14027.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, just a thought, if you can find Benjamin's death in Scotland it often gives the parents names, mother's maiden name and father's occupation. Lorraine Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sarahjordan24 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14027.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you Jack! I am hoping with this information I can find out more about our family. Would you happen to know how to search records for people coming into Scotland, as Benjamins dad came from England. Thank you again for your help! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sarahjordan24 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14027.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Lorraine, Thank you for the information. How did you go about finding it? I searched but I kept coming up with nothing. Also, do you know how I could find the actual certificate or record of this so I can see if there is information about parents of these two or birthdates? Also, You added a blackfriars entry number. Is there a way I can search using just this number? Thank you again! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: paisleyjack1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14027.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: To add to Lorraine's finding of Benjamin Davison & family in 1891. Seems his forename is abbreviated in 1901, and surname is as Davidson. ---- 1901 census Ben Davidson Age: 45 Estimated birth year: abt 1856 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Catherine Gender: Male Where born: England Registration Number: 644/6 Registration district: St Rollox Civil parish: Glasgow Maryhill County: Lanarkshire Address: 751 Springburn Rd Occupation: Steam Engine Mak Filler ED: 83 Household schedule number: 22 Line: 4 Roll: CSSCT1901_290 Household Members: Name Age Ben Davidson 45 - b. England Catherine Davidson 35 - b. Greenock Hannah Davidson 10 - b. Glasgow Maggie Davidson 9 - b. Glasgow James Davidson 7 - b. Glasgow Catherine Davidson 5 - b. Glasgow Mary S Davidson 3 - b. Glasgow Alice Davidson 1mo - b. Glasgow ---- Jack Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lorraineweaver55 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14027.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi again, Found the family on the 1891 census (below),couldn't locate on the 1901 census. Lorraine 1891 Scotland Census about Benjamin Davison Name: Benjamin Davison Age: 36 Estimated birth year: abt 1855 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Catherine Gender: Male Where born: England Registration Number: 644/3 Registration district: Dennistoun Civil parish: Glasgow Barony County: Lanarkshire Address: 6 Downs St Occupation: Engine Fitter ED: 114 Household schedule number: 67 Line: 4 Roll: CSSCT1891_254 Household Members: Name Age Benjamin Davison 36 Catherine Davison 25 born Greenock Hannah Davison 2 Mo born Glasgow Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lorraineweaver55 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14027.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Here's the marriage on Scotland's People 1 1890 DAVISON BENJAMIN MCLENIGHAN CATHERINE BLACKFRIARS GLASGOW/LANARK 644/05 0274 Cheers Lorraine Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sarahjordan24 Surnames: Davidson, McLenighan Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14027/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I hope someone can help. This has been a family mystery for years and despite my attempts I can't get any further with my family. Something fishy going on for sure! I am looking for more information on my grandfather and his family. I have found his birth certificate on Scotlands People and it reads as follows: Benjamin Davidson Lived 8 Fore Street Kilmarnock Born Jan 2, 1903 Father Benjamin Davidson- Engine Fitter Mother Catherine Davidson nee McLenighan Married Nov 14, 1890 - Glasgow. I have tried searching the parents marriage certifcate but I come up with nothing. I have tried googling, searching census records, but I am unable to come up with anything. We believe the father of Benjamin Davidson Sr is James Davison and mother is Anna Barton, but that is just word of mouth and isn't necessarily true. Can anyone help or does anyone have any information on either of these people that would be helpful? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Halmyre Surnames: CAMPBELL Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/4498.1.1.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello Jean, I have, in my tree, Margaret Campbell who married Francis Dickie in Mauchline on the 28th of April, 1789. Margaret is said to be "Of Meikleyard". Margaret and Francis's first child was named Hugh Campbell Dickie. Margaret was possibly born in Cockmoss, Galston, on the 12th of December 1765. That is the only information I have about her. Regards, Robert Struthers. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: andydeans3 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14023.3.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Kay Thanks for your response, unfortunately I don't think my James Dean and Elziabeth Wyllie were in Stevenston during the Landsborough censi. I have looked at them. His son James Dean and Marion banks are there in 1836 I think, but no sign of James Dean and Elizabeth Wyllie. They were certainly there during the 1841 census at Townhead, and there is a death line for a James Dean in 1842 or 1843, (there is some confusion about the date)which may be him, but it gives no clue to the previous generation. Thanks again Kay Andy from Fife. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kay1707 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14023.3.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: "He lived for over 30 years in the Stevenston/Kilbirnie area, does anyone have any idea about any other records, of any kind, for that era, where he might appear..." The minister of Stevenston, Dr Landsborough, conducted his own Census of his parish in 1819, 1822 and 1836. These are available on the Three Towners website: http://www.threetowners.com/1819 Landsborough Census/1819_census.htm "There would be no point in veiwing the record, it would be unlikely to give any more information. Those OPR birth records were pretty thin on detail unfortunately." In practice I have found it useful to look at the OPRs for Stevenston. Otherwise I would not have been able to distinguish between the various John Youngs. The Stevenston session clerk used occupations, addresses and even nicknames to distinguish between them (John Young, cartier cf. John Young in Townhead cf. John Young in Castlehill cf. alias Fair John cf. alias Black John). As for middle names, these really came into vogue in the Victorian period and don't seem to have been used most for ordinary folk before then. Best wishes, Kay in Edinburgh Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lnordby3826 Surnames: Frew Love Reid Logan Kilpatrick Yuille Ross McKean Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14023.3.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Andy, I have looked through the research on Graham Wilson's ayrshireroots.co.uk site as you noted in regards to your Dean ancestry and I find a difference in the early information as to what I have recorded and will need to take some time to do some work with it and get back to you. James Deans and Marion Banks as well as James Deans and Elizabeth Wylie. Two different families that may or may not be connected. Your James Dean born in approximate terms abt 1788 Ayrshire and James Deans born abt 1815 Kilbirnie as I have it, or 1812 as the researcher has stated on line. James Deans married to Marion Banks was still alive in Stevenston in 1877 when he applied for Poor Relief, your James died before 1851. 1861 Census Dreghorn James Deans age 45yrs b. Kilbirnie Marion Deans age 45yrs b. Stevenston David age 17yrs b. Stevenston Charles age 13yrs b. Beith Helen age 8yrs b. Beith Record No. 238. Applied on 15 Oct 1877 at 9 am. Residence 5 Southhook Rows; born in Kilbirnie, Scotland; married aged 65; occupation coalminer; partially disabled. My family connect to the Marion Banks and James Deans line. Andy, can you contact me directly at searchinguk@shaw.ca and I can send you a couple of files that may help. One very good way to try to find further information is to search through the Poor Relief records that are indexed on line at ayrshire-roots.com Elizabeth Murphy Deans applied many times and one can find a wealth of info on these records. I do have one in the file for Elizabeth, wife of Matthew. Poor Relief Record Stevenston June 1880 till Dec 1881 Elizabeth Murphy or Dean age 64, a hawker, widow of Mathew Dean who died 16 years ago. She has two daughters Elizabeth m. to James Burns a labourer, and Mary m. John McKinley a miner in Linwood. She has been in Stevenston 8 years. Lyn's suggestion as to "Matthew" is where I was going next. As to Elizabeth Wylie as I have her parents as Matthew Wylie and Elizabeth Calderwood although this is not sourced only an "approximate fit" Also, Matthew as a Christian name is important as there were many, many more Matthew Wylies than there were Matthew Deans. Many researchers can not go back beyond what recorded records exist with any certainty. Second names are important as they can often use surnames of ancestors or family members. The naming pattern is important. Cheers Andy, Hope to hear from you soon, Linda Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: andydeans3 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14023.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Lynn Thanks for input, I've seen that entry as well. There would be no point in veiwing the record, it would be unlikely to give any more information. Those OPR birth records were pretty thin on detail unfortunately. It could be him, but I don't know. The 1841 census for Stevenston where he appears, "suggests" a birth year around 1788, but that census supposedly rounded ages to the nearest 5, plus people in that era were often vague about their ages anyway. There's no evidence of him having any middle names, but there's no evidence he didn't have middle names. I doubt if I'll ever find out. He lived for over 30 years in the Stevenston/Kilbirnie area, does anyone have any idea about any other records, of any kind, for that era, where he might appear, that would give a clue as to his origins?? Thanks again for your effort. Andy Deans Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lynschwartz Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14023.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I checked Scotland's People and the only James Dean born in Ayrshire close to the dates you give is: James McLean Bu Dean b. 2 December 1781 There was not enough space for the second middle name but his mother's name was Burns (no first name given) and his father was Matthew Dean. The birth location was Irvine. I did not purchase the document just the preliminary page. Hope this helps! Lyn Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: vmarie2007 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/1083.1241.1381.1384.2793.3329.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I don't know if this helps, I'm VERY new at this. My G Grandmother, Isabella Thorburn B 12 Sept. 1868, at Loudoun, Ayr (Gaston, Scotland) A small village near both Kilmarnock & Galston D 4 Aug. 1919 (50) Dau of James and Margaret Ramage, Thorburn and Charles Ramage / Janet Roxburgh B 1789 M 1814 D 1841 Dau Janet Ramage B 21 Sep 1815 Kilmarnock, Ayrshire Dau Jean Crammond Ramage B 21 Oct 1817 Kilmarnock, Ayrshire Son Charles Ramage B 1820 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: judithollikkala Surnames: Ramage/Caldow/Cruickshanks, Logan. Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/1083.1241.1381.1384.2793.3329.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello Sheila, some of my Ramage family emigrated including my grandmother Annie Logan Ramage Caldow and her sister Agnes Cruickshanks Ramage Davidson to Massachusetts, and some others to ohio, both USA, and others to new Zealand and Australia, but Canada does not enter into this family. Sorry. Judith Caldow Ollikkala, Worcester Massachusetts USA Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jeanbunch93j Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/4498.1.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am a descendant of Hugh Campbell b abt 1681 in Galston son of Thomas Campbell. Mary Paterson b abt 1684 married Hugh in Sorn 21 Feb 1706. I am interested in any info regarding Thomas, his wife, siblings etc. Hugh had eight children in Galston and emigrated to the United States. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi.   I am interested in this family as my grandfather stayed with them as an apprentice Draper in 1891. [Census] His mother was a Brown and came from a long line of Ayrshire Browns. However I have often wondered if your Browns and mine were connected. Do you know the parents for your George Brown [marr. to Mgt. Peden}? perhaps I can connect if I can go back a further generation.   Any info would be appreciated.   kind regards   Merrylee  

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: RobbieWilson45 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/4498.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I saw your communication with Galston Parish Church concerning the Meikleyard Campbells. Jean Speirs Campbell of Meikleyard was my ancestors sister. Are you willing to share your Campbell information with me. My Speirs/campbell information is on line for anyone to see. Cheers Robbie Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.