Hi have you looked on Scotlands People website for his death ? I have some Barrowmans, dont know if they are related to yours though, here they are. William Barrowman b 1837 Galston s/o William Barrowmand and Mary Howat, marr Margaret Mackie b c1841 Kilmarnock, d/o Richard Mackie and Margaret Gray. Children, Margaret Gray b 1866 Loudon, William b 1868 Kilmarnock, Richard b 1871 Kilmarnock, Mary b 1873 Kilmarnock, Annie b 1876 Kilmarnock, John b 1874 Lochwinnoch, Jane b 1879 Lochwinnoch, John b 1881 Lochwinnock.. Margaret NZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "RMW" <ancestorhunt@sbcglobal.net> To: <AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 7:49 PM Subject: [AYR] Barrowman > Looking for the family of Thomas Barrowman, born c1815 Kilwinning, > Ayershire. > Died 1861 Dreghorn, Ayershire. > Death records would be nice. Family, Margaret and 4 sons, immigrated to > America after his death. > I have his father dying on the same date and same place, James Thompson > Barrowman b: 1785 Dunsmore, Sterling, and died 1861 Dreghorn, Ayrshire. > Mother Janet Mann, Did James and Thomas die in mining accident together? > James's father was Robert B. c1750 and his mother Janet Thompson. c1750 > > The family for several generations spent their lives in Will Co., IL, with > each son following the same naming pattern. Makes it rather confusing to > follow them on the census records. Any info on the Barrowmans would be > very helpful/ > > Larry Forman > ancestorhunt@sbcglobal.net > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

> Page 110 > The qlk day Johne Dickie in camsbieth being somoned for ordinarie Curseing > and swearing was called and compearing deneyed the same the witneses being > sworne and examined depons to wit Johne Connell that he hard Johne Dickie > gods curse come on Rot Crafurd and on the herd and on the kine the Session > finding his sin proven did ordaine him to acknowledge and confesse the > same before the congregation severall dayes because curseing and swearing > wes fund to be his ordinarie he befor he gaved obedience he died under > processe > The whilk day Jonate Armour wyfe to James Blackwod bonet maker being > somoned for drunknes wes called and compearing deneyed the same the > witneses being sworne and examined did depone first Andro Boyd depons that > Jonate Armour was drunk and David Adam depons the same the Session finding > her drunknes proven did ordaine hir to confesse and acknowledge hir sin > before the congregation from the publick place. > The whilk day Margt Brown wyfe to William Stewart being somoned for > drunknes was called and compeared not is ordained she be somoned pro > tertio > The whilk day Alexr Blackwod being somoned for drunknes wes called and > compeared not is ordained he be somoned pro secundo > The whilk day Thomas Donachine being somoned for drunknes and offering > violence to ane elder wes called and compeared not is ordained to be > somoned pro secundo > The whilk day Healeane Bunteane widow being somoned for vyle and > unchristian speeches wes called and compearing deneyed the same the > witneses being sworne and examined to wit Marione Barr Margt Norvel and > Jonate Thomsone first Marione Barr depons that she hard Healeane Bunteane > say that Andro Boyd wes goeing comunion but all tyme bigpt on him and it > both Margt Norvell depons that she hard Healeane Buntaine say the same > Jonat Thomson depons that she hard Healeane Buntyne say that Andro Boyd > was to get his comunion bot ill tyme wad come on him and it both. The > Session finding that hir unchristiane speeches wer oberly proven and > judging hir transgression to be verie mor ordinarie thought fit to advyse > with the presbytrie about hir sensure > Delations > David Hendersone as suspect of fornicatione with Marion Harper > >

27th. 7th March 1836 On the Motion of John Brown agreed that it be debated on the 21st March What denomination of Christians is most scriptural and best suited for the benefit of mankind in government and discipline. Alex Fulton President. Decided in favour of Presbyterianism. 28th. 21st March 1836. On the Motion of William Morton agreed that it be debated on the 4th April Whether a public speaker possessed of great oratorical powers with common talents or one possessed of great talents but destitute of oratory is most beneficial to his hearers. John Brown President. Decided in favour of the one possessed of great talent. 29th. 4th April. On the Motion of James Taylor agreed that it be debated on the 18th April Whether is generally the most successfull in life the Modest or the Impudent Man. John Brown President. Decided in favour of Modesty. 29th. 18th April. On the Motion of John Brown, Agreed that it be debated on the 2d of May 1836 Would it be Beneficial to Britain to extend the Franchise and to what extent. John Kirkland President. Decided that household suffrage in present exigences is most expedient but universal every man's right and most Beneficial. 30th. 2d May. On the Motion of Robt Howat 2d May agreed that it be debated on the 16th May 1836 Whether the loss of love or the loss of Riches is the worst to bear. James Taylor President. Decided that the loss of Love is worst to bear. 31st. On the Motion of James Taylor 16th May, agreed that it be debated on the 30th May 1836 How does misfortune generally operate upon Mankind? Whether does it increase or diminish the energy of the soul? Thomas Fulton President. Decided that it generally diminishes the energy of the soul. 32nd. 30th May. On the Motion of John Gemmell agreed that it be debated on the 13th June 1836 Whether the feeling that the cultivation of natural science is inimicall to the interests of religion be a prejudice or a well-founded opinion? Alexr Armour President. Decided that it is a prejudice. 33d. 13th June. On the Motion of John Kirkland agreed that it be debated on the 27th June 1836 Whether the brightness of the riseing morn or the calm serenity of closeing day are best calculated to awake contemplation and excite the finest and most pleasing sensations and enjoyments. Alexr Armour President. Division Equall.

Hi Listers,is there anyone on this list who has ancestors from Burnbrae.Or knows anything about anyone who lived there around the 1900s.Maybe has documents concerning Burnbrae and it's people.Or can recommend any local publications available about the area. Shirley

Hello Larry, I have some details of the family of Thomas Barrowman and Janet Mann. Daughter Janet Barrowman born c 1822 married Michael Love in Kilwinning 1842. Michael is the brother of my 2nd g grandfather Alexander Love who married Ann Frew in Kilwinning 1839. Have you the source record for a death of son Thomas? Father James died in 1861 at Kirkland Rows Dreghorn. 1861 BARROWMAN JAMES THOMSON M 76 DREGHORN /AYR 589/00 0023 His age 76, cause of death is listed as general debility. Janet Mann was the informant, her mark (X) was witnessed. James parents were given as Robert Barrowman coal miner dec'd and Janet maiden surname Thomson both deceased as of 14th April 1861. He died approximately one week following the 1861 Census in Dreghorn 1861. Janet applied for Poor Relief in 1874 aged 93yrs. The application was accepted by Kilwinning. Janet died in 1876 at the age of 94yrs in the Parish of Dreghorn the informant was her grandson John McIntyre. As to son Thomas Barrowman and Margaret May Kilpatrick, Margaret is a widow on the 1861 Census living with 4 of her seven sons that I have been able to find. Also, she on the 1881 US Illinois Census as widowed head of household. Have you looked for immigration records for the family at all Larry and also are you a descendant of Thomas Barrowman and Janet Mann? I have found marriages and offspring for seven of their children. With best regards, Linda Nordby Researching Ayrshire's Logan Love Frew McKean Reid Kilpatrick Yuille Kerr McHarg Caldwell and Campbell -----Original Message----- From: ayrshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ayrshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of RMW Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 11:50 PM To: AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com Subject: [AYR] Barrowman Looking for the family of Thomas Barrowman, born c1815 Kilwinning, Ayershire. Died 1861 Dreghorn, Ayershire. Death records would be nice. Family, Margaret and 4 sons, immigrated to America after his death. I have his father dying on the same date and same place, James Thompson Barrowman b: 1785 Dunsmore, Sterling, and died 1861 Dreghorn, Ayrshire. Mother Janet Mann, Did James and Thomas die in mining accident together? James's father was Robert B. c1750 and his mother Janet Thompson. c1750 The family for several generations spent their lives in Will Co., IL, with each son following the same naming pattern. Makes it rather confusing to follow them on the census records. Any info on the Barrowmans would be very helpful. Larry Forman ancestorhunt@sbcglobal.net Looking for the family of Thomas Barrowman, born c1815 Kilwinning, Ayershire. Died 1861 Dreghorn, Ayershire. Death records would be nice. Family, Margaret and 4 sons, immigrated to America after his death. I have his father dying on the same date and same place, James Thompson Barrowman b: 1785 Dunsmore, Sterling, and died 1861 Dreghorn, Ayrshire. Mother Janet Mann, Did James and Thomas die in mining accident together? James's father was Robert B. c1750 and his mother Janet Thompson. c1750 The family for several generations spent their lives in Will Co., IL, with each son following the same naming pattern. Makes it rather confusing to follow them on the census records. Any info on the Barrowmans would be very helpful/ Larry Forman ancestorhunt@sbcglobal.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Page 110 The qlk day Johne Dickie in camsbieth being somoned for ordinarie Curseing and swearing was called and compearing deneyed the same the witneses being sworne and examined depons to wit Johne Connell that he hard Johne Dickie gods curse come on Rot Crafurd and on the herd and on the kine the Session finding his sin proven did ordaine him to acknowledge and confesse the same before the congregation severall dayes because curseing and swearing wes fund to be his ordinarie he befor he gaved obedience he died under processe The whilk day Jonate Armour wyfe to James Blackwod bonet maker being somoned for drunknes wes called and compearing deneyed the same the witneses being sworne and examined did depone first Andro Boyd depons that Jonate Armour was drunk and David Adam depons the same the Session finding her drunknes proven did ordaine hir to confesse and acknowledge hir sin before the congregation from the publick place. The whilk day Margt Brown wyfe to William Stewart being somoned for drunknes was called and compeared not is ordained she be somoned pro tertio The whilk day Alexr Blackwod being somoned for drunknes wes called and compeared not is ordained he be somoned pro secundo The whilk day Thomas Donachine being somoned for drunknes and offering violence to ane elder wes called and compeared not is ordained to be somoned pro secundo The whilk day Healeane Bunteane widow being somoned for vyle and unchristian speeches wes called and compearing deneyed the same the witneses being sworne and examined to wit Marione Barr Margt Norvel and Jonate Thomsone first Marione Barr depons that she hard Healeane Bunteane say that Andro Boyd wes goeing comunion but all tyme bigpt on him and it both Margt Norvell depons that she hard Healeane Buntaine say the same Jonat Thomson depons that she hard Healeane Buntyne say that Andro Boyd was to get his comunion bot ill tyme wad come on him and it both. The Session finding that hir unchristiane speeches wer oberly proven and judging hir transgression to be verie mor ordinarie thought fit to advyse with the presbytrie about hir sensure Delations David Hendersone as suspect of fornicatione with Marion Harper

Hi Listers, Just wondering, is there a cemetery at Failford, Ayrshire or when people die there, are they normally buried in the Tarbolton cemetery? I have 2 deaths, one in 1904 of John Campbell d Failford and his wife Agnes d Failford 1914. Many thanks Chris OZ

Hi Shirley, I don't have any family who were living in Burnbrae but have recently been reading about the abandoned communities of Britain. A good site to look at that gives excellent information and great photos that will give you a good look into life in Burnbrae http://www.abandonedcommunities.co.uk/ayrshire5.html Best regards, Linda Nordby -----Original Message----- From: ayrshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ayrshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Shirley Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 4:20 AM To: AYRSHIRE Subject: [AYR] Burnbrae Hi Listers,is there anyone on this list who has ancestors from Burnbrae.Or knows anything about anyone who lived there around the 1900s.Maybe has documents concerning Burnbrae and it's people.Or can recommend any local publications available about the area. Shirley ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Looking for the family of Thomas Barrowman, born c1815 Kilwinning, Ayershire. Died 1861 Dreghorn, Ayershire. Death records would be nice. Family, Margaret and 4 sons, immigrated to America after his death. I have his father dying on the same date and same place, James Thompson Barrowman b: 1785 Dunsmore, Sterling, and died 1861 Dreghorn, Ayrshire. Mother Janet Mann, Did James and Thomas die in mining accident together? James's father was Robert B. c1750 and his mother Janet Thompson. c1750 The family for several generations spent their lives in Will Co., IL, with each son following the same naming pattern. Makes it rather confusing to follow them on the census records. Any info on the Barrowmans would be very helpful/ Larry Forman ancestorhunt@sbcglobal.net

Is there any SKS that would have any 1841/ 1851 records of the St Quivox census as I am trying to find any McHoul, Mcwhenl, McHawel living in the area when these census were recorded. Any information would be appreciated. Regards Alan Ritchie Gore NEW ZEALAND

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: actonkid1940 Surnames: HINDS Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14039/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello Your family name has caught my attention - mainly because my late father Alexander S. Mochrie had fellow employees of the old Hydro Electric Power Commission of Ontario (H.E.P.C.) namely Wes and Jack Hinds. My dad was an employee of "Hydro" for 33 years until the time of his passing in 1964. Curious to know if these gentlemen were related to you? Regards, Allen Mochrie, Mississauga,Ontario adam67ca@yahoo.ca a_d_mochrie@hotmail.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I'll tell you my story because it fills in a lot of your questions. Once again to agree with everyone else, once you get into the 1700's it is hard to prove a link to the family unless you have a real oldster in the family. I had a Charles Fraser who married Ann King in Largs in 1775. He didn't seem to fit the rest of the Ayrshire Frasers. Wrong Christian name for a starter. The other Largs Frasers were Archibalds, Johns and Williams. He was also a servant at Kelburn (Earls of Glasgow) when he married although the couple moved to Stevenston where he became a coal miner. The other Frasers were either blacksmiths or fishermen. His son William declared himself to be Episcopalian on the Landsborough census of 1821. So I have a Charles Fraser, servant, Episcopalian living in an area that is mostly Presbyterians and he is a servant. Charles and Ann named their second daughter Mary which is the spot reserved for the mother of the father. First daughter is named after the maternal grandmother and they had named their first Elizabeth after Ann's mother. So I looked for the christening of a Charles Fraser with a mother called Mary. There was a couple in the Highlands and one in Edinburgh. I ran a query for all the children of all the mothers called Mary and the Mary in Edinburgh had another son James born before Charles, named after his father James Fraser..and then they had a daughter called Janet in Maybole! I looked up all the childrens' christenings and their father James Fraser was the principle servant to the Earl of Cassilis, John Kennedy. Charles had the King's Trumpeter as one of his sponsors on his christening. Their mother was Mary Masterton, youngest daughter to John Masterton, a merchant in Edinburgh and granddaughter to Francis Masterton of Parkmilne. Francis' eldest son and heir was Charles Masterton and there was another link. Mary named her middle son after her uncle Charles no doubt expecting some return down the road. To further link in the family, the will of Mary's brother James Masterton of Newson left money to "his niece Janet Fraser". So I found Charles father, James christening in Edinburgh to a James Fraser and Mary More. No real proof it was him but it was still the merchant class in Edinburgh. However I found a strange entry on the christening records of his eldest son Alexander. One of the sponsors was William McLean, dancing master. We seemed to have a little bit of an artistic theme going through the family christenings with King's Trumpeters and Court dancing masters. Then I found the clue to the whole puzzle. James Fraser, husband to Mary More was the son of Henry Fraser. Henry Fraser was listed as herauldic painter and then I discovered not only was he a herauldic painter - he was Ross Herald. Hence the ability of the family to move around the courtly class in Edinburgh and beyond. Due to their connections, James Fraser and Mary Masterton, no doubt, placed son Charles with the Earls of Glasgow as servant. Whatever happened though, Charles fell from grace (might have been marriage to Ann King) and ended up cutting the ties to his family. Once you get back to the eighteenth century you may not have direct links but there is a lot more clues buried in the christening records. Cheers, Elizabeth Russon --- On Wed, 9/22/10, ayrshire-request@rootsweb.com <ayrshire-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > From: ayrshire-request@rootsweb.com <ayrshire-request@rootsweb.com> > Subject: AYRSHIRE Digest, Vol 5, Issue 253 > To: ayrshire@rootsweb.com > Date: Wednesday, September 22, 2010, 3:00 AM > > > Today's Topics: > >    1. Re: How do you add to family tree > further (Judy Minchinton) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 09:37:18 -0700 > From: Judy Minchinton <grannym2@dccnet.com> > Subject: Re: [AYR] How do you add to family tree further > To: bellemarco@gmail.com, > Ayrshire List <AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <000501cb59ab$42624fd0$c726ef70$@com> > Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII > > Hello Elaine, > > I expect you've received responses to your question, and in > different ways > I'd guess they'll say that the further back you go the less > the 'guarantee' > that they're yours.  I go on likelihoods and > probabilities that the person > is a fit and then look and look for sound sources to > corroborate.  And I > have a 'question mark' pile - hard copies kept in 3 ring > binders.  After 10 > years seeking ancestors I discovered this year that I had a > wrong set of x3 > great grandparents. (!) I'll add in some of my thoughts to > your question. > > Scots naming pattern is important, but not a proof > (sometimes a new name is > added in to recognise a new Minister, the Laird, or maybe > just because the > parents liked it). > The Old Parish Records, if they were kept, and if they > survived time of > course, are a sound resource too but are just as accurate > as the person > recording the information. > > Family bibles are good too, but there is no way to know if > the entries were > recorded at the time or were done later by the writer's > memory.  The family > bible for one of my branches is out by at least a > year.  Family bibles can > might also not include an event that the family at the time > did not want to > acknowledge for whatever reason. > > The GRO, www.scotlandspeople website is great.  It is > a fee-pay so I suggest > reading around the site and make the most of > searches.  All your searches > over years are there for you to look at again, and to > arrange in a time > line, and to search by surname, and so on.  The free > Wills index gives lots > of information; downloading the Will/Inventory et al is the > fee pay. > > The LDS site is great too- I still haven't used it all but > being able to > search whole parishes by keying in the Batch number on the > IGI search screen > is helpful (spelling variations are so very common).  > Sometimes, and I've > forgotten the reason, the LDS volunteer transcribers > recorded only female > births - just one of those tidbits of information to know. > > > The book 'Surnames of Scotland' by George F. Black helps me > out a lot with > the variant spellings of names - and the history of the > name too. > Joining up with a local Family History Association to > register your people, > and seek local help. There is an annual membership fee. > The booklets of MI's - monument inscriptions which have > found whole families > for me and sometimes for others when I do look-ups. There > is a cost per > book. > And, of course, the Web and I include the very helpful > Rootsweb Listers. > > When to add someone?  Totally yours to decide - after > a couple of sources > make it look 'good'?  For me I put lots of notes in > the 'notes' section of > my computer file for future searching.  I'd tend to go > with the research of > a family member but then find the reliable sources to back > it up.  There can > be error in all records done by humans.  Literacy can > be a problem, but not > always.  My mother was born in Vancouver BC in 1914; > named Marjorie Isobel > Craig McKissock.  I have her original baptism paper > which records her name > as Margaret _____.  > > Regards, Judy in BC Can > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ayrshire-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:ayrshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of bellemarco@gmail.com > Sent: September-17-10 6:53 PM > To: Rootsweb Ayrshire > Subject: [AYR] How do you add to family tree further > > I have a simple question but I am sure a difficult answer. > How do you add  > to the family tree further. Case in point - I have Andrew > Wyllie b. abt.  > 1726-1728 according to a family member who did research > years ago. I have,  > thus far, not found his marriage record about 1745-1750? to > Janet Wylie.  > There was a family bible and maybe he got the information > from this bible.  > I have found a birth record for a Matthew Wylie s/o Thomas > Wylie and  > Margaret Stevenson b. 1728. How do I know this is the right > Matthew as I do > > not know who his parents were. Plus this couple did not > name any of their  > children Thomas or Margaret. Children I have been able to > find  > birth/baptism records for are John bapt. 1749, Mary b. > 1749, I do not think > > they were twins, Robert b. 1750 and Robert b. 1754 (I am > assuming the first > > one died and they named the next Robert?). The family > researcher also lists > > a James but I have not found a birth/baptism record for him > and he is  > listed as married to Mary Wilson. I did find such a > marriage but it took  > place in 1764 and I am wondering if he was too young to be > the right one.  > The only one that I have been able to find further info on > is the son John, > > from whom my niece is descended. So, back to my original > question, who do  > you know if you have the right person when doing research? > This family name > > was also spelled Wyllie and any other variation thereof. A > puzzlement? > > Elaine Sharp > Sacramento CA USA > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3146 - Release > Date: 09/19/10 > 11:34:00 > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the AYRSHIRE list administrator, send an email > to > AYRSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the AYRSHIRE mailing list, send an > email to AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of AYRSHIRE Digest, Vol 5, Issue 253 > **************************************** >

In the Archives of this mailing list is the answer to your question. http://news.rootsweb.com/th/read/AYRSHIRE/2007-02/1172005499 Since it says: BURNFOOT, in Tarbolton Parish, was located on the Ayr - * Mauchline* road. Then this must be your family in the 1851 Census. *Piece:* SCT1851/590 *Place:* Dundonald -Ayrshire *Enumeration District:*5f *Civil Parish:* Dundonald *Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island:*Dundonald *Folio:* 0 *Page:* 5 *Schedule:* 209 *Address:* Portland Street ------------------------------ Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks CAMPBELL George Head M M 51 Harbour Waiter Ayrshire - Mauchline Troon Village CAMPBELL Marion Wife M F 51 Ayrshire - Mauchline CAMPBELL Ann Dau U F 25 House Servant Ayrshire - Mauchline CAMPBELL John Son U M 18 Railway Clerk Ayrshire - Mauchline CAMPBELL Margaret Dau U F 16 Muslin Seamstress Ayrshire - Mauchline CAMPBELL George Son U M 12 Scholar Ayrshire - Mauchline

Hello Elaine, I expect you've received responses to your question, and in different ways I'd guess they'll say that the further back you go the less the 'guarantee' that they're yours. I go on likelihoods and probabilities that the person is a fit and then look and look for sound sources to corroborate. And I have a 'question mark' pile - hard copies kept in 3 ring binders. After 10 years seeking ancestors I discovered this year that I had a wrong set of x3 great grandparents. (!) I'll add in some of my thoughts to your question. Scots naming pattern is important, but not a proof (sometimes a new name is added in to recognise a new Minister, the Laird, or maybe just because the parents liked it). The Old Parish Records, if they were kept, and if they survived time of course, are a sound resource too but are just as accurate as the person recording the information. Family bibles are good too, but there is no way to know if the entries were recorded at the time or were done later by the writer's memory. The family bible for one of my branches is out by at least a year. Family bibles can might also not include an event that the family at the time did not want to acknowledge for whatever reason. The GRO, www.scotlandspeople website is great. It is a fee-pay so I suggest reading around the site and make the most of searches. All your searches over years are there for you to look at again, and to arrange in a time line, and to search by surname, and so on. The free Wills index gives lots of information; downloading the Will/Inventory et al is the fee pay. The LDS site is great too- I still haven't used it all but being able to search whole parishes by keying in the Batch number on the IGI search screen is helpful (spelling variations are so very common). Sometimes, and I've forgotten the reason, the LDS volunteer transcribers recorded only female births - just one of those tidbits of information to know. The book 'Surnames of Scotland' by George F. Black helps me out a lot with the variant spellings of names - and the history of the name too. Joining up with a local Family History Association to register your people, and seek local help. There is an annual membership fee. The booklets of MI's - monument inscriptions which have found whole families for me and sometimes for others when I do look-ups. There is a cost per book. And, of course, the Web and I include the very helpful Rootsweb Listers. When to add someone? Totally yours to decide - after a couple of sources make it look 'good'? For me I put lots of notes in the 'notes' section of my computer file for future searching. I'd tend to go with the research of a family member but then find the reliable sources to back it up. There can be error in all records done by humans. Literacy can be a problem, but not always. My mother was born in Vancouver BC in 1914; named Marjorie Isobel Craig McKissock. I have her original baptism paper which records her name as Margaret _____. Regards, Judy in BC Can -----Original Message----- From: ayrshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ayrshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of bellemarco@gmail.com Sent: September-17-10 6:53 PM To: Rootsweb Ayrshire Subject: [AYR] How do you add to family tree further I have a simple question but I am sure a difficult answer. How do you add to the family tree further. Case in point - I have Andrew Wyllie b. abt. 1726-1728 according to a family member who did research years ago. I have, thus far, not found his marriage record about 1745-1750? to Janet Wylie. There was a family bible and maybe he got the information from this bible. I have found a birth record for a Matthew Wylie s/o Thomas Wylie and Margaret Stevenson b. 1728. How do I know this is the right Matthew as I do not know who his parents were. Plus this couple did not name any of their children Thomas or Margaret. Children I have been able to find birth/baptism records for are John bapt. 1749, Mary b. 1749, I do not think they were twins, Robert b. 1750 and Robert b. 1754 (I am assuming the first one died and they named the next Robert?). The family researcher also lists a James but I have not found a birth/baptism record for him and he is listed as married to Mary Wilson. I did find such a marriage but it took place in 1764 and I am wondering if he was too young to be the right one. The only one that I have been able to find further info on is the son John, from whom my niece is descended. So, back to my original question, who do you know if you have the right person when doing research? This family name was also spelled Wyllie and any other variation thereof. A puzzlement? Elaine Sharp Sacramento CA USA ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3146 - Release Date: 09/19/10 11:34:00

Hello all, Have just re-looked at a death in 1870 of my ggg grandfather George Campbell. He died at Burnfoot, Tarbolton and I was wondering whether it was a place or a cottage of that name. He was 70 yrs old and the death said he died of 'old age'. His wife Marion lived till she was 90 yrs. Marion is in the Tarbolton Cem with the Imrie family as she lived with them after George died. Any help gratefully appreciated Cheers Chris Australia

The following is a explanation from David Thom to the Ayrshire Rootsweb list in 2007 regarding Burnfoot Tarbolton, hope it helps Linda BURNFOOT, in Tarbolton Parish, was located on the Ayr - Mauchline road, equidistant between Failford & Barskimming, and south east of Woodside, on the minor road into Barskimming Estate. I believe there was a small toll-house there. It is no longer marked on the modern maps but you will find it in the bottom right hand corner of the 1860 large scale map of FAILFORD which can be accessed via the Free Historical Maps Gazetteer. -----Original Message----- From: ayrshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ayrshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Loretta Layman Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 5:33 AM To: 'Goldstraw'; 'AYRSHIRE' Subject: Re: [AYR] Burnfoot, Tarbolton Hi Chris. There's a Burnfoot Bridge a mile or two east-southeast of Tarbolton, on the River Ayr. I know a bridge doesn't sound likely, but all the other Ayrshire places named Burnfoot are a considerable distance from Tarbolton. Go here and enter Burnfoot as the search term, making sure you have "place name" selected. www.streetmapco.uk Loretta -----Original Message----- From: ayrshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ayrshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Goldstraw Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 11:39 PM To: AYRSHIRE Subject: [AYR] Burnfoot, Tarbolton Hello all, Have just re-looked at a death in 1870 of my ggg grandfather George Campbell. He died at Burnfoot, Tarbolton and I was wondering whether it was a place or a cottage of that name. He was 70 yrs old and the death said he died of 'old age'. His wife Marion lived till she was 90 yrs. Marion is in the Tarbolton Cem with the Imrie family as she lived with them after George died. Any help gratefully appreciated Cheers Chris Australia ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Chris. There's a Burnfoot Bridge a mile or two east-southeast of Tarbolton, on the River Ayr. I know a bridge doesn't sound likely, but all the other Ayrshire places named Burnfoot are a considerable distance from Tarbolton. Go here and enter Burnfoot as the search term, making sure you have "place name" selected. www.streetmapco.uk Loretta -----Original Message----- From: ayrshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ayrshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Goldstraw Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 11:39 PM To: AYRSHIRE Subject: [AYR] Burnfoot, Tarbolton Hello all, Have just re-looked at a death in 1870 of my ggg grandfather George Campbell. He died at Burnfoot, Tarbolton and I was wondering whether it was a place or a cottage of that name. He was 70 yrs old and the death said he died of 'old age'. His wife Marion lived till she was 90 yrs. Marion is in the Tarbolton Cem with the Imrie family as she lived with them after George died. Any help gratefully appreciated Cheers Chris Australia

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ritasmith163 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/5445.1.1.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Don't know if you are still researching bug I lived in Hazelbank during the war. The Morton family were prominent members of the community. They owned fruit lands and we as young children, picked the berries, adults did too. I was back a couple of years ago and Mortons still live there, Not sure how many but one lives right on the edge of the river. That was owned by others when I lived there and we bought tomatoes from them. I would say if you walked up to where the old post office used to be you could look down on the Morton's property. Someone could help you. I met a man who had visited Morton's. I think he said he was married to a Morton and lived in Australia. Hope this helps if you haven't already got all the info you need Rita Smith Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Many thanks to all those who responded to my Barskimming query. We're off to Morven tomorrow, so will follow up on my return. Alastair Donald

Is there any kind soul that could help me find information on the Farm Barwheys . It was also spelt Barquheys in the old form My family of John Ritchie and Jean McHoul lived their around 1790to bring up a family These are all the family I know off James Ritchie b 28/11/1795 married Margaret Highet Hugh Ritchie b 3/3/1798 Janet Ritchie b 6/8/1800 married James Highet Jean Ritchie b 21/5/1807 Any information would be appreciated Regards Alan Ritchie Gore New Zealand