Thanks, Judy, for searching for my Thomas. Just a small correction......the Carrick Ayrshire MI and the Fasti both contain the same error. Thomas was not the father of the Jessie who married McMaster. Thomas the minister had a son James, who was also a minister. James was the father of Jessie....Thomas was the GRANDfather. I have copies of many family letters written by James and Jessie proving this. The Russell family continues to be most complicated to sort out as everyone seems to have used the same names for their children. It looks like I'm going to have to order a few more MIs. Rose On 10/11/2010 5:57 PM, Judy Minchinton wrote: > In the book 'Carrick Ayrshire pre 1855 MI's, Girvan, page 82, G42 Thomas > Russell is mentioned as the father of Jessie Russell who marries a McMaster >

Wylie, Martha bn abt 1769 Beith. ( 2 born in same quarter, both married Shedden men) married 1790 Kilwinning to John Shedden, (this is the one i am following for now) there were 12 children. Mary, john, William, James, margaret, Elizabeth, Barbara, David, Janet, Robert, Alexander and martha. Mary Shedden bn Kilwinning 1791, married James Andrew 1817 in Beith. Of this line i belong, Jean Andrew then married Lauchlan mcintyre and came to australia I would dearly like to know if i can find out my Wylie connections. I believe Martha died about 1851 but after the census. Ive tried to find cemeterys on line for scotland, and visited the towns via the net, where there roots were. but not finding anything to help. Where is the  best spot to research for this era? or is there help out there on this mailing list? Margaret in Australia

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: wjmilne Surnames: McQueen Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14043/mb.ashx Message Board Post: >From known dates 1869 to at least 1913, 3 Generations of this family,reared,slaughtered animals and sold carcases in at least two locations in Ayr.They were recorded in the following locations.1869,Main Street,St.Quivox,Ayr. 1871 Mill Street,Ayr. 1872, High Street,Ayr. 1913,High Street,Ayr.Nothing indicates the foregoing as business premises.Can anyone in Ayr supply me with the business locations? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Oops, left in a note to self - in pp#2 - "not sure who at this point" should have been deleted. Judy, etc -----Original Message----- From: ayrshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ayrshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Judy Minchinton Sent: October-11-10 2:57 PM To: Ayrshire List Subject: Re: [AYR] Min Thos. Russell MI mention. McMaster MIs. In the ASAFHS booklet of cumulative index of deaths there is no RUSSELL MI in Colmonell cemetery. RUSSELLs are found in Alloway, Ballantrae, Dalrymple, Girvan Doune West Section, Maybole, Patna, and Straiton. In the book 'Carrick Ayrshire pre 1855 MI's, Girvan, page 82, G42 Thomas Russell is mentioned as the father of Jessie Russell who marries a McMaster - not sure who at this point. Page 82, #G42 says "Revd Peter McMaster for 36y pastor of the parish of Girvan died 5 Jan 1847 age 71 and in the 44th year of his ministry, wife Henrietta Maria Bulley died 19 Nov 1869 aged 75, 2da [second daughter] Mina b.13 Mar 1820 died 5 May 1890, yt [youngest] da Maria Cathcart died Mansefield Girvan 8 Sept 1905, 3da Jessie died Mansfield Girvan 26 Oct 1914 age 92. (Ed: [editor notes] see Fasti Ecclasiae 3 18 & 42- he was the first son of James McMaster farmer Inch, ordained to New Luce 1803, translated to Girvan 1810, md 1812 Jessie who died 25 Apr 1815 (fa [her father] Thomas RUSSELL minister of Antiburgher congregation Dunblane, son James minister Barr (Barr inscription noted here) married 1816 Henrietta Maria Bulley, chn Helen b. 14 April 1818 (her husband Robt Gordon of Rattra), Williamina, Janet b. 10 Feb 1822, Marion Cathcart b Nov 15 1824). MI end. It is my understanding that everything inside parentheses refers to the person mentioned immediately before; in other words (In the Editor notes, the "he" in the beginning refers to Peter McMaster. And, it seems to me that Jessie Russell was Peter's first wife -they married in 1812 and she died 1815 and then all the information in the next set of parentheses refers to Jessie Russell, the after the ) then Peter's 1816 marriage to Henrietta and the children of that marriage. I have used [ and] for my comment The MI referred to on #G42 'stone in Girvan is in Barr cemetery and is another McMaster 'stone. I'll transcribe it now but look for an MI for Thomas Russell d. 1803, maybe tomorrow. In the Carrick Ayrshire MI pre 1855 book, Barr cemetery, page 16 #72: "Urn. Revd James McMaster died 20 Dec 1852 age 37, wife Grace Gibson died 18 Mar 1860 age 32. eulogy. by parishioners of Barr (Ed: see Fasti Ecclesiae iii 18, 42 & the Girvan inscription [above] she was the daughter of James Gibson solicitor Wigtown & had chn Jessie Caldwell Russell b 15 Feb 1847, Henrietta Maria b 13 Mar 1849, Peter b 4 Nov 1850." Regards, Judy in BC Can Message----- From: Rose McClure [mailto:back2noah@rosecountry.net] Sent: October-11-10 9:23 AM To: Judy Minchinton Subject: Colmonell Monumental Inscriptions lookup please? Hello Judy... Might I also ask for a lookup from the Colmonell book? I'm looking for Thomas Russell, born about 1723, died 3 Oct 1803. Most interested in who might have been his wife. Thomas was a minister. Thanks ever so much. Rose No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.862 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3190 - Release Date: 10/10/10 23:34:00 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.862 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3190 - Release Date: 10/10/10 23:34:00

In the ASAFHS booklet of cumulative index of deaths there is no RUSSELL MI in Colmonell cemetery. RUSSELLs are found in Alloway, Ballantrae, Dalrymple, Girvan Doune West Section, Maybole, Patna, and Straiton. In the book 'Carrick Ayrshire pre 1855 MI's, Girvan, page 82, G42 Thomas Russell is mentioned as the father of Jessie Russell who marries a McMaster - not sure who at this point. Page 82, #G42 says "Revd Peter McMaster for 36y pastor of the parish of Girvan died 5 Jan 1847 age 71 and in the 44th year of his ministry, wife Henrietta Maria Bulley died 19 Nov 1869 aged 75, 2da [second daughter] Mina b.13 Mar 1820 died 5 May 1890, yt [youngest] da Maria Cathcart died Mansefield Girvan 8 Sept 1905, 3da Jessie died Mansfield Girvan 26 Oct 1914 age 92. (Ed: [editor notes] see Fasti Ecclasiae 3 18 & 42- he was the first son of James McMaster farmer Inch, ordained to New Luce 1803, translated to Girvan 1810, md 1812 Jessie who died 25 Apr 1815 (fa [her father] Thomas RUSSELL minister of Antiburgher congregation Dunblane, son James minister Barr (Barr inscription noted here) married 1816 Henrietta Maria Bulley, chn Helen b. 14 April 1818 (her husband Robt Gordon of Rattra), Williamina, Janet b. 10 Feb 1822, Marion Cathcart b Nov 15 1824). MI end. It is my understanding that everything inside parentheses refers to the person mentioned immediately before; in other words (In the Editor notes, the "he" in the beginning refers to Peter McMaster. And, it seems to me that Jessie Russell was Peter's first wife -they married in 1812 and she died 1815 and then all the information in the next set of parentheses refers to Jessie Russell, the after the ) then Peter's 1816 marriage to Henrietta and the children of that marriage. I have used [ and] for my comment The MI referred to on #G42 'stone in Girvan is in Barr cemetery and is another McMaster 'stone. I'll transcribe it now but look for an MI for Thomas Russell d. 1803, maybe tomorrow. In the Carrick Ayrshire MI pre 1855 book, Barr cemetery, page 16 #72: "Urn. Revd James McMaster died 20 Dec 1852 age 37, wife Grace Gibson died 18 Mar 1860 age 32. eulogy. by parishioners of Barr (Ed: see Fasti Ecclesiae iii 18, 42 & the Girvan inscription [above] she was the daughter of James Gibson solicitor Wigtown & had chn Jessie Caldwell Russell b 15 Feb 1847, Henrietta Maria b 13 Mar 1849, Peter b 4 Nov 1850." Regards, Judy in BC Can Message----- From: Rose McClure [mailto:back2noah@rosecountry.net] Sent: October-11-10 9:23 AM To: Judy Minchinton Subject: Colmonell Monumental Inscriptions lookup please? Hello Judy... Might I also ask for a lookup from the Colmonell book? I'm looking for Thomas Russell, born about 1723, died 3 Oct 1803. Most interested in who might have been his wife. Thomas was a minister. Thanks ever so much. Rose No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.862 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3190 - Release Date: 10/10/10 23:34:00

Some members of my DOUGLAS family lived in Colmonell, Ayrshire from the 1830's. There appear to be no available death/burial records for Colmonell. If anyone who has access to the Colmonell MI's could check them for me and let me know the details of any entries for DOUGLAS it would be greatly appreciated. The other related family members who died in Colmonell are as detailed below. Any MI's for them would also be of great interest: Hugh CAMPBELL died 30 November 1861 Elizabeth CAMPBELL died 15 August 1885 Janet FINLAY died 29 January 1916 With thanks Ian

Hello Ian, I could do some look-ups for you but want the forenames of your Douglas' first. In my Colmonell MI booklet (purchased from the Alloway South Ayrshire Family History Society) There are 10 tombstones mentioning DOUGLAS and one DOUGLASS. There are 15 'stones with Campbell. In my MI book "Carrick-Ayrshire MI's, pre 1855" in the cumulative index there are tombstones mentioning Douglas in Barr, Colmonell, Dailly, Maybole and Straiton. However, there was only 1 FINLAY, and it looks like it's your Janet d. 1916: In the Colmonell Kirkyard book, page 29, #138: "Sacred to the memory of WILLIAM FINLAY d. 06 Nov 1887, aged 57y. Also his daughters JANE d. 06 Feb 1865 AGNES d. 26 Jan 1867. Also his wife JANET CAMPBELL d. 29 Jan 1916 age 78 y. Also ELIZABETH BINNIE widow d. 08 Aug. 1952 aged 94 y. ROSE FINLAY b. 21 Oct 1871 d. 22 May 1957. HUGH C. FINLAY b. 29 Aug. 1868 d. 11 Jan 1958." Death documents should be available, for a sm. Fee, on 'scotlands people' website for deaths 1855 and after. The search for Wills/Inventories is free and often has lots of useful information. Regards, Judy in BC Can -----Original Message----- From: ayrshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ayrshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ian and Sharon Loiterton Sent: October-10-10 7:32 PM To: AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com Subject: [AYR] Colmonell Monumental Inscriptions lookup please? Some members of my DOUGLAS family lived in Colmonell, Ayrshire from the 1830's. There appear to be no available death/burial records for Colmonell. If anyone who has access to the Colmonell MI's could check them for me and let me know the details of any entries for DOUGLAS it would be greatly appreciated. The other related family members who died in Colmonell are as detailed below. Any MI's for them would also be of great interest: Hugh CAMPBELL died 30 November 1861 Elizabeth CAMPBELL died 15 August 1885 Janet FINLAY died 29 January 1916 With thanks Ian ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.862 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3189 - Release Date: 10/10/10 11:34:00

Ian, Sorry I can't help with the Colmonell MIs but, my Douglas family lived in Colmonell (Bougang/Bowgang Farm) for many years. They were: John Douglass (b 1776? d 1839, Colmonell) Jannet McMichael (b 1782 New Cumnock, d 1858 Colmonell) Their Children were: John Douglass (my direct line b abt 1809, m Margaret Lowrie 1839, went to Canada 1840s Robert Douglass (b 1811, m Eliz Alexander 1836, d 1876 Kirkcudbright Daniel Douglass (b 1816, m Alleson Cameron 1859, d 1879 Colmonell Jane Douglass (b 1818, m Peter McMillan 1848, d 1848 Wigtonshire William Douglass (b 1820, m Eliz McWhirter 1849, d 1888 Portpatrick James Douglass (b 1823) Mary Douglass (b 1823) Janet Douglass (b 1825, m Hugh McMaster 1850, d 1904 Colmonell) Isabella Douglass (b 1827, m James Murray 1849, m James Harvey 1868, d 1904 Colmonell) Margaret Douglass ? Any connections with your crew? Thanks, Larry

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ACawdron Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/5679.4.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Alastair My friend John is writing and article about the above family. We have not been able to find Charles birth c 1760 but know he is the son of Andrew Howatson and ? Their are no marriages for New Cumnock where the originated from and no births to an Andrew Howatson. I am not related to this family myself but helping my friend with his research. I am off an Ayrshire Howat branch. John is descended from John Howat from Old Cumnock who he believes originated form New Cumnock. I will pass your info to John and let him contact you with more details. Regards Angela Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Group: The "Discover My Past" magazine available for download at Scotland's People website has an article on Shipbuilding Ancestors. On page 26, there is an illustration of a postcard(?) "Launch of the Lalandia" from Ayrshire Dockyard Company, Irvine, 1914 and the corner of the card has printed "A. McMurtrie, Dreghorn" for you McMurtrie researchers. ecunningham@att.net

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ADowney4617 Surnames: HOWATSON SAMSON Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/5679.4.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: A son of Charles HOWATSON and Margaret REID was William HOWATSON (1808-1882) He married Jean SAMSON (1811- I can provide some further informaton about some of their descendants if desired Alastair Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cgpigott Surnames: HOWATSON, LENNOX, PARKER Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/1118.1119.3430.1.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Angela, Thanks for the message. William HOWATSON was a younger son of John HOWATSON & Margaret LENNOX; he was born in 1777 at Borland Mains, Old Cumnock (I have the date, but not in my head); he was Blacksmith in Glaisnock & Auchingilsie, Old Cumnock; he married twice & went to Quebec Province in Canada with his 2nd wife & three of the younger children, where he died about the year 1861 (he was enumerated in the 1861 Census). William's 3rd son, by his 1st wife Janet PARKER, was David HOWATSON, born in 1809; he was my gtx3-grandfather; his eldest daughter Janet Burns HOWATSON (1831-1918) was mother of Elizabeth THOMSON (1858-1888), the mother of my maternal grand-mother Janet Howatson YOUNG (1883-1936), the last of my ancestral line to have been born in Ayrshire (Kilwinning), & who emigrated to South Australia in 1912. I was not previously aware of John HOWATSON's parentage. Many thanks for that piece of information. Am very interested in learning about your friend's connection. Regards, Chris PIGOTT, Potts Point, N.S.W. cgpigott@yahoo.com.au Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ACawdron Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/5679.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Mary My friend John is writing an article on this Howatson family, who originated from the Afton Valley. I don't know if he has been in touch with you? The family became Ayrshire landowner at Cronbery, just outside Muirkirk. If not please let us know your connection to them. Regards Angela Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ACawdron Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/1118.1119.3430.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi My friend is a descendent of the said John Howatson and Margaret Lennox who he believes came from New Cumnock. John being the son of John Howatson and Margaret Campbell. Who is the William Howatson who went to Canada? There are no early marriage records for New Cumnock, but my friend John believes his Howatson's to be connected to the Howatson's of Pencloe, New Cumnock. Would be pleased to hear from you Regards Angela Cawdron Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: karpek Surnames: parker clanachan birch cosh mathews shepherd Mcdoull Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14041/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am looking for James Baird Parker.Possibly born Kilmarnock. Family reputed to be descended from kin in Kirkcowan. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mariephlox Surnames: Ronald, Stevenson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/13824.3.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Dean, My g-g-grandmother's sister, Janet STEVENSON was married to Robert RONALD on the 7th of July, 1840 in Greenock, Renfrewshire. Robert RONALD was the son of William RONALD and Janet BLACKBURN. William RONALD and Janet BLACKBURN were married the 5th Sept 1794, Muirkirk, Ayr. Source: www.familysearch.org IGI You mention that William & Janet had 10 children that you know of. I only have 4. Let me know if the following matches your info. Elizabeth RONALD b1801 Thomas RONALD b1808 John RONALD b1811 Robert RONALD b1814 d1856 All children baptised in Muirkirk, Ayr. Regards, Marie Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kingtonmagna Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/13824.3.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am a Ronald descendent. The records we have say that the Ronalds definitely came from Ayrshire. I never knew where, however, I began to think a little about what the other info was that was given. My GGgrandfather Thomas Ronald was supposed to have operated a halfway house in Strathaven. OK,he does show up in the 1841 census living in Strathaven, so I believe this was likely correct. Also his brother William & sons (first names not given)were carriers of iron from Muirkirk to Glasgow and stopped overnight at the halfway house. Now the 1837 Pigots directory for Muirkik -- a John Ronald age age 25 a carrier. Next 1841 cxensus Muirkirk --Janet F. Ronald age 70 Again John Ronald carrier, James Ronald carter. No William Ronald but he was old enough to have died I think. I think I have correctly located the William Ronald family. Now marriage records of Muirkirk -- Sept 5,1794 William Ronald & Janet I believe this is confirmation again! Now, the father of Thomas & William was supposed to be George or George James Ronald. Have I helped anyone by displaying this information? Can anyone make a connection to my family? Any help that anyone can give me would be greatly appreciated. Also William and Janet had 10 children that I know of and likely at least one more probably born elsewhere! Thank you all so much, Dean Thomson Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ljmacq Surnames: smillie-doolan dickson-dick humphrey Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/1852.3028.3031.3197.3202.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: my great grandmother grace smillie married my gf john doolan in ayr on the 7/1/1875.her parents were william smillie and christina dickson.their parents were john smillie/sarah humphrey and robert allan dickson/grace dick.is anybody else following this line or does anyone have more information Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hello Listers I have in my possession 2 letters written by Nan MILROY (my father's 1st cousin) in 1949 & 1950 from 6 Oswald Place Ayr to my father here in Queensland. Nan was born Agnes McCall PHILLIPS, only d/o of Albert Edward PHILLIPS and Margaret Lees ms CORNELIUS (called Meg). Nan and her brother, Victor Albert, were both born in Dumfries, in 1904 & 1903 respectively while their father was serving in the Army. Victor emigrated to Canada in 1927 and married Molly there in 1932 (from another family letter); they had at least 3 children, one, a girl, born in 1933. Nan married Archibald REID in 1925. He died in 1926 leaving her with a small son, Archibald James Phillips REID, born the year his father died. Nan married again, to Hugh MILROY, in 1935. When Hugh died in 1965, he was described as a widower. I'm looking for (at least, of course) 2 things - 1. The death of Agnes McCall MILROY (ms PHILLIPS formerly REID) between 1950 and 1965. 2. Information on Archibald James Phillips REID who married Sheena POUSTIE in 1948 and had children born in 1950 (David Poustie REID), 1952 (Moira Louise P REID) and 1954 (Gordon Phillips REID). As the REID 'children' were born in the 1950s, they are probably still alive and well. I'd love to make contact with any or all of them or anyone related to them. I wouldn't say 'no' to any info on the Canadian connection either! If you know of any of these names, I'd love to hear from you. With many thanks. Pam Beaudesert, Queensland, Australia

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