This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: marydavidson36148 Surnames: mortons Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/5445.1.1.1.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Catching up with some of the posts. Icome from hazelbank and crossford and was a morton from orchardville( house on the hill at kirkfieldbank side one of the biggest orchards in the area) The house beside the water (WATERSIDE) IT IS NOW OCCUPIEDby a second cousin Derrick Morton his mum and dad lived at LAMMAS KNOWE across from park and uncle at Oatbank just next to it . I am doing the family tree at the moment and would love if you had any info. Dericks sister lived in Australia and her family are there. Most of the fruitgrowing has gone now very few tomato houses and a lot of the orchards have died out , a group of people are trying to get the orchards planted up again. Hope to hear from you Mary. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Trying to trace Oswald Buoy (Bowie) my GGGrandfather born,abt 1776 in the Dumfries area. He married Jane Clark in Straiton, Ayrshire in 1796. He died Bef 1881. We think he may have been born in Ireland, hence the spelling variation. Jim

We have a James Anderson (born 1798) who was born in Kilmarnock Ayrshire - he married a Janet Marshall (born 1800) also from Kilmarnock. They emigrated to Hartford Connecticut and had children born in USA - Adam born 1829, Janet born 1831, Agnes born 1833, William born 1834, John born 1836, Humphrey born 1838 and George born 1842. They also had four other children born in Kilmarnock Helen born 1821, Matthew born 1823, James born 1825 - assumed died and another James born 1825. As the last born in Kilmarnock was in 1825 and the first in Hartford 1929 - so assume they departed UK in 1826 - 1828 Regards John Stevenson

Hello Jim, To me it sounds as though he wishes to build a little house/room adjoining the gable of his house downward to the kirk dyke wall and the length being 4 ells (which is also the measurement used for a length of plaid and/or cloth)..... the height not exceeding the height of the house to which it will be adjoined avoiding hazards etc to the kirk ....... boiling the tallow using the dyke wall as part of the furnace of large height....with no entry by/within the kirk yard .... there be no lights within the kirk yard other than a light in the gable if need be. A Scottish ell = to 37 Scots inches or approx 37 Eng. inches approx. 94.5 centimetres, only slightly longer than the 36" yard. Regards, Jenny >>>wtout prejudice to (t)he kirk or kirk yard the sd supplicant might build fure littell house adjoynt to the sd gabil of his house downward upon the kirk yard dyke four ells orderly of lenth (bacsniger sharp foote eaf the eaf chisel of peeas winds of the gulate the bleamrt circh of the gabills, to the end the hight of the sd winds be not prejudged) and ells of breadeth keiping a foule wtin the northe cornor of the former gabil all along, to the end the passage befor may be rather planned nor praitened and yr that hight of the sd house to be buidat sall not exceed yt hight of the ryt house to qch it is to be adjoynt and for avoiding of hazard and other discommodities to the kirk and kirk yard the session forsd ordaines that for boylling of tallow on the dyke the supplicant sall build here furnace in the southwest corner of the sd house (to be buildit) toward the watter in forme of a breaers furnace of also large a hyght as the top of the gabill yrof and that yr be no blyth entrie to the sd house wtin the kirk yard but the entrie qch is alredie in the former house and yt yr be no lygts wtin the kirk yard except one in the gabill (if need be) and that wt this provision the session sall close it

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: andersonrandi Surnames: Anderson (William), Philip (Elizabeth) Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14042.4718/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I believe we are linked here. My daughter had here DNA tested and it shows a large chunk of DNA coming from Ayreshire, Scotland. That DNA has to come from me since her father has no Scotish ancestorage. My earliest recorded ancestor lining in America were a William Anderson who married an Elizabeth Philip. I do not know the dates but my daughter would know since she has been vigorously involved in geneology and I have not until this moment. I became curious when I met a neighbor yesterday from Lockerbie, Scotland. We put pictures of our grandchildren side by side and saw they could easily be siblings. Not just cousins but siblings. I have become curious because these seem to be very strong genes that get passed on above all else. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jwest211 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14045/mb.ashx Message Board Post: John Cuthbertson m. Anne Graham in 1811. I am looking for the names of their children. Would appreciate any help. Thanks, Janet Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi, John CUTHBERTSON & Anne GRAHAME had a daughter, Anne, b. 1789 in Ayr, Scotland, who married James STRACHAN in Renton, Dunbartonshire, Scotland. When and where were John CUTHBERTSON and Anne GRAHAM married? Janet

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lowlandscot Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/1536.1539.1924.1961.1974.2281.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: His 1855 should give you both his parents plus the names of his children. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

----- Original Message ---- From: "ayrshire-request@rootsweb.com" <ayrshire-request@rootsweb.com> To: ayrshire@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, 3 October, 2010 8:00:33 PM Subject: AYRSHIRE Digest, Vol 5, Issue 262 Today's Topics: 1. JAMES MUNDELL BURIAL (EDWARD PAXTON) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2010 16:27:42 +0000 (GMT) From: EDWARD PAXTON <e.paxton@btinternet.com> Subject: [AYR] JAMES MUNDELL BURIAL To: ayrshire@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <119404.71473.qm@web86202.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I have a problem where my GG grandfather's burial location is unknown. He lived, worked, and died in Glasgow in February 1919, but there is NO record of his burial in the City. Thinking laterally, I wonder whether his wife, who was from Largs, had his remains transported to Largs for burial in a family lair. [Although I have my doubts about this, his wife died in Largs, and so maybe she had bought the lair for them both]. His wife was Janet Aitken, born 17 Dec 1847 Died 5 Feb 1940 at 132 Main Street, Largs. Her parents were John Aitken and Susan Hill, both born in 1817 in Kilbarchan, Renfrewshire and Largs respectively. Would anyone have any access to Largs burials in either 1919 or 1940, or MI's for Largs cemeteries? TIA edward Edward R Paxton ------------------------------ To contact the AYRSHIRE list administrator, send an email to AYRSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the AYRSHIRE mailing list, send an email to AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of AYRSHIRE Digest, Vol 5, Issue 262 ****************************************

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: fitz17 Surnames: MCDOWELL, SUFFERN Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14044/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am looking for information/descendants/relatives of THOMAS MCDOWELL & his wife SARAH JANE SUFFERN. They appear in the 1851 census for GIRVAN. Also listed with them are their children: ISABEL, ANN & WILLIAM. By the 1860 census they had emigrated to SHEFFIELD, VT. I look forward to hearing from you! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: HVACCOM1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/1536.1539.1924.1961.1974.2281.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My gggrandfather was Thomas Kerr married 1851 to Elizabeth Lauchlan in Dalry Ayrshire. He died 1855 in Dalry, he was born in Antrim circa 1825 and that is all the info I have on him. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: margarite42 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/1536.1539.1924.1961.1974.2281/mb.ashx Message Board Post: have you heard the name Thomas Kerr he had a child a son with an Elspeth young at the Dubbin castle in Scotland and was sent to Australia to have that child. Thomas Kerr is my blood ggg grand father Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Can any kind person please tell me when the earliest part of the Churchill Barracks in Ayr was built? Did it always have that name? It was demolished in the 1950s, but exactly when? I would also very much appreciate any photos or drawings of it. The Royal Scots Fusiliers had a great history and many people were sorry to see them go. Cheers, Ian. Member: British Isles Family History Society of Greater Ottawa, Canada.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: TerryMagyar51 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/13908.2867.2.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Sorry, but your reply was no help at all. I inquired about the tombstone you photographed. It's difficult to read. It "looks like" John Giffin, with the N being backwards. You photograghed it, did you transcribe it ? What might it be ? The stone I referenced was a different John Giffen (en). My John is in the West End of the Keil Cemetery. Where is yours located ? West End ~ Keil Cemetery 29. John GIFFEN, weaver, Kildavie, and Janet DUNLOP his wife in memory of John and Janet their children who died in infancy. Also of Elizabeth THOMSON his former spouse died in the 34th year of her age. Might my John Giffen, be the only (en) Giffen in the UK ? LINK: http://www.ralstongenealogy.com/cemetery.htm Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bargantoys Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/13908.2867.2.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: just to confuse matters the earliest spelling is gyffon which comes from france, which is now giffon ,there is a castle gyffon and if you start at this name and meve forward the gyffon becomes gyffin becomes giffin...mary queen of the scots when held in captivitie was helped by a giffin who took her septure(RELIGOUS STICK) over to france the gyffons came over to england with the huganos during the persecutions and landed in wales and took the giff name into wales and parts of scotland the train station giffen was named after a castle which was in the area( is now a mining company on the spot) the giffen castle has nothing to do with our family and was never owned by a giffin.it was owned by the patterson family name Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lowlandscot Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/13908.2867.2.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Universal education didn't start until the 1870s so until about 1900 spelling was at the whim of the writer... it's not unheard of to get two spellings in the same entry. And if the writer was unfamiliar with the surname then he wrote what he heard ...eg McCartie ...heard in NE England ...turned out to be McKirdy ...try McCartie with a Belfast accent!! One of my branches were from Shannon to Shinnon to Shewdon to Shadon to Sheddon in the space of 80 years. So don't get hung up over spelling ...especially not Mc and Mac... they're completely interchangeable. Irene Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bargantoys Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/13908.2867.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: this was taken from the graveyard you spoke about. i did have contact with a different american who got quite upset with me when i proved that the name is giffin and not giffen i can assure you of one thing and that in 1776 the british laungauge was very confusing e and i are used in many names but mean the same thing...all the graves in the uk are giffin and all the graves in america are giffen i can link the giffin british tree with the american giffen tree if you go way back to around 1500 you can find quotes of our name meaning gif = a skilled handed man who uses his hand skills in a field also a giff is a good strong handed warrior fin = is some one who works or lives on the lower lands as a farmer skilled worker fen = some one who works/lives at the brow/top of a hill can you see were the name comes from and how close the two spellings are i have all the info to back up all my claims, i hope this helps Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: TerryMagyar51 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/13908.2867.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Yes, I was curious about that tombstone. Can you tell me more about it ? My GIFFEN family came from Scotland about 1776. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bargantoys Surnames: giffin giffen Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/13908.2867.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: heres the photo which i took it spells giffin hope this helps thankyou matt Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: TerryMagyar51 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/13908.2867.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Matt, I believe the name was spelled with an "E", in Southend, Argyll, Kinytrene. Check the Keil Cem for John Giffen. Terry Magyar, s/o June Giffin Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.