I have the Cadet papers for our William Brown ca 1814. On them, it says he was a student at Macfarlane Parish School, Stewarton and Jameson Academy London. I have googled both and read those sites but am wondering if anyone has any specific student/teacher records from either. I am also trying to find out what school William Shields taught in ca 1824 when he married in Stewarton. Thank you. Elaine Rainy Sacramento CA USA

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MegGreenwood Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14045.1.3.1.1.1.2.1.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I've sent you an email on the 1855 Registration for the marriage, I had it a few days ago but Rootsweb had somehow dropped my ID and I had to re-register as a new person. No idea how someone can be dropped entirely. Meg Greenwood Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jwest211 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14045.1.3.1.1.1.2.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Meg, Thank you so very much for this information. This information really brings everything together for me. I have always believed Margaret and Janet were sisters and this record proves it for me. Thimble St. and Burns St. is where Janet m. to James Strachan lived. Janet Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MegGreenwood Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14045.1.3.1.1.1.2.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I've got access to the 1855 Registrations for Scotland. The Marriage for Margaret CUTHBERTSON to Walter COLQUHOUN is as follows : On May 18th, 1855 at Renton, Married according to the rites of the Church of Scotland. Groom was Walter COLQUHOUN currently residing Burns St, Renton Cardross and usually residing same place age 26y a Calico Printer, Bachelor born but not registered on 24th Nov, 1828 at Renton, Cardross the son of Walter COLQUHOUN Calico Printer deceased and Jane COLQUHOUN ms STEWART. Bride was Margaret CUTHBERTSON currently residing Thimble? St, Renton, Cardross usually residing same place, 31y a Grainer? at a Factory, Spinster born but not registered 23rd Jan [or Jun] 1824 at Renton, Cardross to John CUTHBERTSON ?Grenyman? [its not Journeyman] deceased and Ann CUTHBERTSON ms GRAHAM. Marriage officiated by William KIDD, Min of Aberdeen?. Witnesses signed as David? McPhie and Mary McKENZIE?. Registered 21 May at Cardross. Robert Brokman? Registrar. The handwriting was extremely hard to read, its heavily slanted to the right //// and very compact with ink smudges forming at all turns. If anyone would like to view JPGs of this entry [2 pages], write to Meg at scotquester@bartnet.net/ and I'll send scans if this is the right Registration. MegG in Oklahoma Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kaymcmeekin Surnames: Campbell Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14046.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Here he is in Glasgow in the 1901 census John Patrick Campbell Age: 44 Estimated birth year: abt 1857 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Catherine Campbell Where born: Stevenson, Ayrshire Registration district: Kinning Park Burgh Civil Parish: Glasgow Maxwell County: Lanarkshire Address: 19 Ardgowan Place Occupation: Seaman Name Age John Patrick Campbell 44 Catherine Campbell 40 b Glasgow James Campbell 4 There is a marriage of John Patrick Campbell to a Catherine in 1897 in Glasgow. My advice would be to download the certificate, for a small fee, from scotlandspeople.gov.uk Then you will get his and her parents' names and occupations There is a marriage in Glasgow City in 1897 of John Patrick Campbell to Catherine Possible candidates are James Campbell and Marion Brown married 22 Nov 1844 in Stevenston. Statutory records start in 1855 in Scotland. Before that coverage is patchy. Children of that couple are 1. MARION CAMPBELL - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Birth: 05 JAN 1861 Stevenston, Ayr, Scotland 2. CHARLES CAMPBELL - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Birth: 12 SEP 1858 Stevenston, Ayr, Scotland 3. JAMES CAMPBELL - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Birth: 08 JUL 1856 Stevenston, Ayr, Scotland The family is in Stevenson in 1861 James Campbell 42 collier born Stevenston Marion Campbell 39 born Lanark James Campbell 4 Charles Campbell 3 Marion Campbell 3 MO Agnes Campbell 13 daughter And this might be them in 1851 1851 Kilwinning (not far from Stevenston) Name: Marion Campbell Age: 28 Estimated birth year: abt 1823 Relationship: Wife Spouse's name: James Campbell Gender: Female Where born: Lesmahagoiw, Lanark Parish Civil Parish: Kilwinning Town: Eglenton Iron Works County: Ayrshire Address: 38 Double Row Name Age James Campbell 38 b Stevenston coal miner Marion Campbell 28 b Lesmahagow, Lanarkshire William Campbell 7 b stevenston Agnes Campbell 4 b stevenston John Campbell 11 MO b Stevenston Have searched the siblings names for musicians. Unfortunately Campbell is a very common name. Start with what you are certain of - get the marriage certificate from 1897 - and work back! Kay Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jwest211 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14045.1.3.1.1.1.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have never seen a middle name for Ann. I can tell you that the Strachan naming pattern began with my earliest ancestor and continued right down to my grandfather's family and my father's family. Her first child was Ann, that was also a reason I wondered if the John Cuthbertson, Ann Graham marriage could be her parents. Since then I have found Janet Cuthbertson, b. 14 Jan 1821, Abbey, Paisley, Renfrew, parents William Cuthbertson & Agness Lieshman. The year of birth is a little late for Janet and Agness does not fit in with any of my Strachan line. Janet Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: campbells200 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14046/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, I'm trying to trace my family back, and only have the above information about my great great grandfather. Apparently he was a Draper that had a son called James, or John Patrick Campbell(my great Granddad) in 1857, in Stevenston, Ayrshire that ran away to sea. But John Patrick had at least 2 other siblings, one a notable violinist that played around Scotland, the other a fairly well known Opera singer. Does this ring any bells with anyone? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kaymcmeekin Surnames: Cuthbertson, Strachan Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14045.1.3.1.1.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I've had a look at Ardrossan births wondering if she was Ann Graham's child but not John Cuthbertson's. No luck there either. Her first child is Ann Strachan b 1840 and that fits Scottish naming pattern. First girl should be named after mother's mother. It is all circumstantial though. Don't suppose Ann Strachan's middle name was Graham? Can't think what else to suggest. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jwest211 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14045.1.3.1.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: You won't find her death in Scotland as she died in America. Both her husband and sons all died in America and also her daughters. I tried to find a record of her death to see if her parents were listed but the State only began keeping them in 1906 and she died earlier than that. The church they attended and were members merged with another church. I sent emails to both churches looking for her death but but emails came back as the e-address on the internet was no longer available. I don't think their death record would have her parents name on it anyway. The cemetery records do not have parent information with their records. I have all the obituaries and no mention of parents or even that they were born in Scotland are mentioned. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kaymcmeekin Surnames: Cuthbertson, Strachan Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14045.1.3.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The Janet in 1842 census is married to Alexander JANET MCLEISH Marriage: 13 DEC 1840 Cardross. The others in the household transcribed as McLeith on ancestry will be her family. Had a try finding Janet's death on SP (without spending any credits) No-one fulfilling even 2 of the criteria: Cuthbertson, Strachan, mother's maiden name Graham, Dunbartonshire. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jwest211 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14045.1.3.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Not knowing it was you, I thought she was connected to one of the families and I might be able to help her since I do have information on all families. Thanks for this information you just sent. Janet Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I have a Thomas McDowall married to a Sarah Jane Severance. I suspect these may be the same couple as my records indicate that Thomas' mother was named Isabel. Thomas' burial is recorded in Wheelock VT vital records Regards Bill McNatty, McDowall, ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 17:59:04 -0000 From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> Subject: [AYR] MCDOWEEL-SUFFERN in GIRVAN To: <AYRSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <1287251945.238568@rootsweb.com> Content-Type: text/plain; This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: fitz17 Surnames: MCDOWELL, SUFFERN Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14044/m b.ashx Message Board Post: I am looking for information/descendants/relatives of THOMAS MCDOWELL & his wife SARAH JANE SUFFERN. They appear in the 1851 census for GIRVAN. Also listed with them are their children: ISABEL, ANN & WILLIAM. By the 1860 census they had emigrated to SHEFFIELD, VT. I look forward to hearing from you! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------ To contact the AYRSHIRE list administrator, send an email to AYRSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the AYRSHIRE mailing list, send an email to AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of AYRSHIRE Digest, Vol 5, Issue 273 **************************************** _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1136 / Virus Database: 422/3201 - Release Date: 10/16/10

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kaymcmeekin Surnames: Cuthbertson, Strachan Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14045.1.3.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Janet (that was me as well I seem to have 2 log-ins to ancestry!) JAMES STRACHAN Marriage: 11 JUL 1840 Cardross, Dunbarton, Scotland There is a Janet age 20 with the others in Renton in 1841 but that can't be her as she is already married. Also she is recorded later at the bottom of the list. 1841 census doesn't give relationships. Ann Cuthbertson 55 Martha Cuthbertson 20 Margt Cuthbertson 15 Robt Cuthbertson 14 James Cuthbertson 12 Andrew Cuthbertson 9 Alex Mcnab 20 John Mcnab 10 Mary McLeith 40 Malcolm McLeith 20 Mary McLeith 15 Andrew McLeith 15 Rachel McLeith 10 Wm McLeith 6 Agnes McLeith 4 Angus McLeith 2 Alex Cuthbertson 20 Janet Cuthbertson 20 I suppose you have tried for her death certificate? That should give you her parents if it is 1855 or later and the informant knows who they are. And no I have no connection! Just like to help. Kay Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jwest211 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14045.1.3.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks for your reply. Janet Cuthbertson is married to James Strachan and they live in Renton, Dunbartonshire. The only connection I can figure for Janet is the period of the marriage of John Cuthbertson and Anne Graham. It fits the time period and is the only marriage that I could find that seems to fit. Are you connected to the Cuthbertson, Graham or Strachan families? Janet Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: KayRolinson Surnames: Cuthbertson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14045.1.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: What else do you know about Janet? WHat makes you think she is connected? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: billmc_1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14044.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have brothers Thomas and Richard McDowell b Cty Down NI, 1821. Thomas m Sarah Jane Severance; Richard m Jane McNatty in Girvan Ayrshire. Both brothers show in the Vermont records Parents are Robert Thomas McDowell and Isabelle Johnson Hope these are your people regards Bill McNatty Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jwest211 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14045.1.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Kay, Thank you so much for these children. I was hoping for a daughter Janet b. betw. 1814 and 1818. I believe she is their daughter but have not been able to prove it in any of the many searches I have done on her over the years. Am hoping someone has found proof of her connection to John and Anne Cuthbertson. Janet Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kaymcmeekin Surnames: Colquhoun, Cuthbertson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14045.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: And the marriage of Margaret in 1855 is to Walter Colquhoun on 18 MAY 1855 in Renton Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kaymcmeekin Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14045.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: There is also a Martha Cuthbertson age 20 with the family in 1841 census. Kay Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kaymcmeekin Surnames: Cuthbertson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14045.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Janet I see the marriage in 1811 in Ardrossan. A parent search reveals children born some time later in Dunbartonshire: Margaret Cuthbertson - Birth: 28 JAN 1824 Renton, Cardross, Dunbarton, Scotland Margaret Cuthbertson - : Female Marriage: 18 MAY 1855 ARCHIBALD MCCARTNEY CUTHBERSON - Birth: 12 JAN 1831 ARCHIBALD MCCARTNEY CUTHBERSON - Male Christening: 11 MAR 1831 Cardross, Dunbarton, Scotland ROBERT CUTHBERSON - Male Christening: 20 DEC 1828 Cardross, Dunbarton, Scotland JOHN CUTHBERSON - Christening: 09 JUN 1829 Cardross, Dunbarton, Scotland ANDREW DUNSMORE CULBERTSON - Male Birth: 17 MAR 1832 ANDREW DUNSMORE CULBERTSON - Male Christening: 26 APR 1832 Cardross, Dunbarton, I see the family in 1841 and 1851 censuses with no father John. Ann is 55 in 1841 which fits with marriage date Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.