My Mom Elizabeth (Bessie) McCreadie was born in Dailly in 1898, She was the daughter of Jimmie & Jane McCreadie. Her sister Jean also born in Dailly married an Andrew McBride. My Mom & Dad (Alex Mackenzie) & three children lived in The Toll House until coming to Canada in 1929. Elizabeth in Canada

The mother's maiden name was often used for a middle name. I have found that where an unfamiliar surname has appeared in my family it has been a surname of a family member on a maternal line from three or four generations before, and it is only by tracing further back that I've found the connection. Cheers, Andrea. -----Original Message----- From: ayrshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ayrshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Loretta Layman Sent: Tuesday, 9 November 2010 2:04 AM To: ayrshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AYR] Middle name mystery I've also read and can easily believe that folks sometimes named their children after nobles and lairds. In my research of several American families, I've found more than once that sons were named for Presidents. In my husband's family tree there are Benjamin Franklin Layman and George Washington Layman. In a tree I did for a friend, there are Abraham Lincoln Copeland and George Washington Copeland. George Washington was particularly popular and appears numerous times among the families I've studied. I even saw a family (the last name of which I don't now recall but will list as Smith) with all three sons named for Presidents: Abraham Lincoln Smith, Benjamin Franklin Smith, and George Washington Smith. Loretta -----Original Message----- From: ayrshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ayrshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Janet MacDonald Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 9:38 AM To: ayrshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AYR] Middle name mystery I had wondered about an ancestor's middle names for a long time, and discovered recently that she was named for the minister of the parish and his wife, might be worth a bit of exploration of that sort?   Janet   --- Original Message ----- From: "The Duffs" <the4duffs@verizon.net> To: <AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 10:22 PM Subject: [AYR] MacFarlane middle name mystery > All- >  I have been very puzzled by the middle name of MacFarlane in my > ancestor's names.  There are two of them - James (b 1856) and Thomas (b. > 1864).  <snip>   > I'm puzzled and I don't know where to look. > > Bob   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is what I found on this new Cadet Branch during my trio to Scotland. According to a History of Renfrewshire, it says:- "C. 'And a little towards the east lie the lands of Gavin and Rysk, and old possession of the Boyds, an ancient family in Ayrshire. The first I have found of this family, is dominus Robertus Boyd, miles, a witness in a contact of agreement betwixt Bryce de Eglinton and the village of Irvine, in the year 1205, as the original extent, in the charter chest of Irvine, testifies; and excerpt of which I have seen, subscribed by the provost of that burgh) by the favour of George Ross of Galston, a gentleman well seen in the antiquities of this country. The lands, above mentioned, came afterwards to the Boyds of Badenheath, and early cadet of the noble family of Kilmarnock. For this I have seen a charter granted by king Robert III. to William Boyd, son and apparent heir of William Boyd of Badenheath, upon his father's resignation in the year 1405 (a), and continued for several hundreds of years, a possession of that family. And, in the year 1518, these lands came to Mr Robert Boyd of Kipps, deseended of the family of Badenheath; and, by marriage of Margaret, his daughter and heiress, the lands of Kipps came to Mr David Sibbald, of the house of Rankeilor. They were father and mother of that learned gentleman and curious antiquary, Sir Robert Sibbald of Kipps, doctor of medicine. The superiority of the lands of Gavin and Rysk were lately acquired from William, first earl of Kilmarnock, by Francis lord Glassford. (a) Carta penes Will comitem de Kilmarnock. "Scots Peerage", says that the Boyds went to Renfrewshire, when they first came to Scotland. This location is justover the Ayrshire border with Renfrewshire and is at the top of the valley running from Irvine. And as such it would have been a good defensive position to help defend the lowlands from Vikings. Mike Boyd Brisbane

Hi, I was puzzled about the middle name "Boyd" in my family....it turned out to be the maiden name of my 5th g.grandmother. :)) Cheers, Lynne. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Goldstraw" <goldies@westvic.com.au> To: "Janet MacDonald" <glaschujan@yahoo.co.uk>; "AYRSHIRE" <AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [AYR] Middle name mystery > > Hi, > My father's middle name was after Mt Lyell in Queenstown,Tasmania. Also > the > family lived at Lisle during the gold days but maybe my grandmother got > the > spelling mixed up and called him after a mountain instead of the town of > Lisle. I never asked him. > > Chris > -------------------------------------------------- > >> I had wondered about an ancestor's middle names for a long time, and >> discovered recently that she was named for the minister of the parish and >> his wife, might be worth a bit of exploration of that sort? >> >> Janet >> >> --- Original Message ----- >> From: "The Duffs" <the4duffs@verizon.net> >> To: <AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 10:22 PM >> Subject: [AYR] MacFarlane middle name mystery >> >> >>> All- >>> I have been very puzzled by the middle name of MacFarlane in my >>> ancestor's names. There are two of them - James (b 1856) and Thomas (b. >>> 1864). <snip> >> >>> I'm puzzled and I don't know where to look. >>> >>> Bob >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

WHOOPS - I am sorry - I got that wrong. William McKay who married Jane McGlashen was my gg-uncle. Both Mungo McKay and his wife Elizabeth Goldie and their respective siblings William McKay and Margaret Goldie had sons called William around 1840 who were double cousins. But this one was Mungo and Elizabeth's son, not William and Margaret's. Many apologies for the muddle. Mary

Hello List, I have a Jane/Jean Murdoch who married James McGlashen in Cumnock, 1840. They had a daughter Jane/Jean McGlashen in 1840 or 1841 who Jane married Willliam McKie/McKay in Logan, Cumnock, 18th June 1869. They had two children that I know of: Mungo 1870 Jane Murdoch McKie 1873 William McKie/McKay was the son of William McKay and his wife Margaret Goldie who were also brother and sister of my gg-grandparents Mungo McKay and Elizabeth Goldie. So he was my double-first-cousin 3 times removed. Or that's what I THINK! Do these folk ring bells for anyone? Best regards, Mary

Hello List, I have a Jane Murdoch who married James McGlashen in Cumnock, 1840. They had a daughter Jane McGlashen in 1840 or 1841 who Jane married Willliam McKie/McKay in Logan, Cumnock, 18th June 1869. They had two children as far as I know: Mungo 1870 Jane Murdoch McKie 1873 William McKie/McKay was the son of William McKay and Margaret Goldie who were brother and sister of my gg-grandparents Mungo Mckay and Elizabeth Goldie. So he was my double-first-cousin 3 times removed. I THINK! Do these folk ring bells for anyone? best regards, Mary

Hi, My father's middle name was after Mt Lyell in Queenstown,Tasmania. Also the family lived at Lisle during the gold days but maybe my grandmother got the spelling mixed up and called him after a mountain instead of the town of Lisle. I never asked him. Chris -------------------------------------------------- > I had wondered about an ancestor's middle names for a long time, and > discovered recently that she was named for the minister of the parish and > his wife, might be worth a bit of exploration of that sort? > > Janet > > --- Original Message ----- > From: "The Duffs" <the4duffs@verizon.net> > To: <AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 10:22 PM > Subject: [AYR] MacFarlane middle name mystery > > >> All- >> I have been very puzzled by the middle name of MacFarlane in my >> ancestor's names. There are two of them - James (b 1856) and Thomas (b. >> 1864). <snip> > >> I'm puzzled and I don't know where to look. >> >> Bob > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It was quite usual in the case of an illegitimate child to give the father's surname as a middle name.   However, I have one baby girl (illeg) who was not only given her father's surname but the first name and maiden name of his mother.  (so she had four names).   I wonder if it was done out of spite or if there was intention to marry at some stage in the future (they didn't). --- On Tue, 9/11/10, Andrea <fitzys@alphalink.com.au> wrote: From: Andrea <fitzys@alphalink.com.au> Subject: Re: [AYR] Middle name mystery To: AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, 9 November, 2010, 9:06 The mother's maiden name was often used for a middle name.  I have found that where an unfamiliar surname has appeared in my family it has been a surname of a family member on a maternal line from three or four generations before, and it is only by tracing further back that I've found the connection. Cheers, Andrea. -----Original Message----- From: ayrshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ayrshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Loretta Layman Sent: Tuesday, 9 November 2010 2:04 AM To: ayrshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AYR] Middle name mystery I've also read and can easily believe that folks sometimes named their children after nobles and lairds.  In my research of several American families, I've found more than once that sons were named for Presidents.  In my husband's family tree there are Benjamin Franklin Layman and George Washington Layman.  In a tree I did for a friend, there are Abraham Lincoln Copeland and George Washington Copeland.  George Washington was particularly popular and appears numerous times among the families I've studied.  I even saw a family (the last name of which I don't now recall but will list as Smith) with all three sons named for Presidents: Abraham Lincoln Smith, Benjamin Franklin Smith, and George Washington Smith. Loretta -----Original Message----- From: ayrshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ayrshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Janet MacDonald Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 9:38 AM To: ayrshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AYR] Middle name mystery I had wondered about an ancestor's middle names for a long time, and discovered recently that she was named for the minister of the parish and his wife, might be worth a bit of exploration of that sort?   Janet   --- Original Message ----- From: "The Duffs" <the4duffs@verizon.net> To: <AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 10:22 PM Subject: [AYR] MacFarlane middle name mystery > All- >  I have been very puzzled by the middle name of MacFarlane in my > ancestor's names.  There are two of them - James (b 1856) and Thomas (b. > 1864).  <snip>   > I'm puzzled and I don't know where to look. > > Bob         ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The website scotlandspeople.com explains marriage law, which might be relevant to this and similar instances. In addition to "regular" marriages, there were two recognized forms. First, as in many cultures, some couples never married by any kind of formal act but merely chose to live together as man and wife. In Scotland, the state considered such couples to be married “by habit and repute”, and the wife and children would legally inherit. Second, hand fasting or hand tying was not a binding marriage but only a year-long “trial” period, at the end of which the couple had the right to separate if they did not wish to continue living together. Still, any child born of that union was considered legitimate. Then, if the couple was content with the union at the end of a year, it was followed by a marriage outside the church during which the couple could say, with or without witnesses, that they took each other as husband and wife. Afterward, such unions were legal marriages in the eyes of the state, and both the wife and the children of such a union would legally inherit. However, such marriages were not recognized by the church, and the church often tried to persuade such couples to be married in a church ceremony. Loretta -----Original Message----- From: ayrshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ayrshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of TRISH DAY Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 4:36 AM To: AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AYR] Middle name mystery It was quite usual in the case of an illegitimate child to give the father's surname as a middle name.   However, I have one baby girl (illeg) who was not only given her father's surname but the first name and maiden name of his mother.  (so she had four names).   I wonder if it was done out of spite or if there was intention to marry at some stage in the future (they didn't).

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: girvanmurdoch Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/94.3335.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello Moira, Are you still working on the Murdoch tree? If so, I would like to know if William Murdoch Inventor's brother Robert is in the line I am researching. Did he have a son David, who married Elizabeth Campbell? David was born 1763 at Auchinleck - he was a Murdoch of Dalsalloch Farm. His Daughter Jane was my 3xGt grandmother who married James Girvan. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Another common one was to name the child after a doctor involved in the birth. In a family of James and Johns, I suddenly came across an "Ellerington" - who was named after the doctor involved, I assume, in a difficult birth. Best wishes, and happy hunting Louise On 8 November 2010 14:37, Janet MacDonald <glaschujan@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > I had wondered about an ancestor's middle names for a long time, and > discovered recently that she was named for the minister of the parish and > his wife, might be worth a bit of exploration of that sort? > > Janet > > --- Original Message ----- > From: "The Duffs" <the4duffs@verizon.net> > To: <AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 10:22 PM > Subject: [AYR] MacFarlane middle name mystery > > > > All- > > I have been very puzzled by the middle name of MacFarlane in my > > ancestor's names. There are two of them - James (b 1856) and Thomas (b. > > 1864). <snip> > > > I'm puzzled and I don't know where to look. > > > > Bob > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I had wondered about an ancestor's middle names for a long time, and discovered recently that she was named for the minister of the parish and his wife, might be worth a bit of exploration of that sort?   Janet   --- Original Message ----- From: "The Duffs" <the4duffs@verizon.net> To: <AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 10:22 PM Subject: [AYR] MacFarlane middle name mystery > All- >  I have been very puzzled by the middle name of MacFarlane in my > ancestor's names.  There are two of them - James (b 1856) and Thomas (b. > 1864).  <snip>   > I'm puzzled and I don't know where to look. > > Bob  

I am reasearching above names in & around Girvan, Maybole & Dailly Elizabeth in Canada

My Aunt's middle name is Cunningham and we don't know how she got it! 1901 Census Camlachie, Parkhead Glasgow, Lanark, Scot 644/2 E.D. 64 p 17 #91 at 22 E Wellington Hector McLean, head, age 49 (abt 1852), b Argyleshire, iron worker wife Annie, age 48 (abt 1853), b Glasgow son Hector, age 20 (abt 1881), b Glasgow dau Jessie, age 16 (abt 1885), b Glasgow dau Mary, age 14 (abt 1887), b Glasgow son David, age 10 (abt 1891), b Glasgow boarder John Cunningham, age 35 (abt 1866), b Glasgow, hammerman 1904, 7 June William Ferguson and Flora Cunningham (nee McLean) M 1904 (abt 22) at Parkhead Public Hall, Glasgow Flora, spooler in carpet factory   Duncan McLean & Mary McNeil B 28 May 1851 D Laborer, quays, D 2 Dec 1872 at 8 Chapel St, Greenock (61)   Birth: FHL Film 1,041,075 North Knapdale OPR  (Batch C115304) Hector, son of Duncan McLean and Mary McNeill of Tayvallich, b 28 May 1851 chr 28 Aug 1851   1861 Census N Knapdale, Argyll, Scotland 530 E.D. 4 p 116 #86 at Tayvallich Duncan McLean, head, age 60 (abt 1801), b N Knapdale, worsted weaver   son Duncan, age 10 (abt 1851), b N Knapdale, scholar   son Hector, age 8 (abt 1853), b N Knapdale, scholar   1881 Census Camlachie, Barony Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland 644/2 E.D. 77 p 1 #4 at 80 New Road Mary McLean, head, age 70 (abt 1811), b North Nabdale Highland   son Duncan, age 26 (abt 1844), b North Nabdale (Highlands), Argyllshire, laborour - ironwork   gson John Cunningham, age 15 (abt 1866), b Glasgow, labourer - ironwork Mary's son Hector McLean and his family are also at 80 New Road    God bless all my friends & family~thank you for being in my life              Vickie Marie Keep looking up and Trust in God Have an awesome day, and know that someone who thinks you're great has thought about you today! "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." ~Abraham Lincoln~ --- On Mon, 11/8/10, LINDA NORDBY <searchinguk@shaw.ca> wrote: From: LINDA NORDBY <searchinguk@shaw.ca> Subject: Re: [AYR] Middle name mystery To: "Janet MacDonald" <glaschujan@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: ayrshire@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, November 8, 2010, 11:17 AM Hi All, In  Cunninghame Ayrshire one may often find the sencond name of Landsborough Cunningham Reid Warner Eglington All prominent personalities during the 18th and 19th century.  Also as mentioned the names of the Minister of the day and the Physicians. One of my searches involved the question as to why my ancestor on my Reid and Logan family was named Joanna Shearer Logan, granddaughter of my 3x grandfather William Logan., born 1786 Stevenston. Unusual Christian name for the day and never could find a connection to Shearer till I was able to find the Poor Relief record for my ancestor: Minute book CO3/59/2 Stevenston Poor Relief 3 June 1859 William Logan collier applied for aid being advanced in age and his wife also unfit to do anything for their support - has rent from the Shearers house in Cowroding, kindly granted by his granddaughter Joanna Shearer in America. Allowed 2/- per week. Through this Poor Relief record I was able to fast forward and find the descendants of Joanna who were only living about 35 minutes from my home in BC Canada. It is a great journey! All the best Linda Nordby ----- Original Message ----- From: Janet MacDonald <glaschujan@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Monday, November 8, 2010 8:40 am Subject: Re: [AYR] Middle name mystery To: ayrshire@rootsweb.com > I had wondered about an ancestor's middle names for a long time, > and discovered recently that she was named for the minister of > the parish and his wife, might be worth a bit of exploration of > that sort? >  > Janet >  > --- Original Message ----- > From: "The Duffs" <the4duffs@verizon.net> > To: <AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 10:22 PM > Subject: [AYR] MacFarlane middle name mystery > > > > All- > >  I have been very puzzled by the middle name of MacFarlane in > my > > ancestor's names.  There are two of them - James (b 1856) and > Thomas (b. > > 1864).  <snip> >  > > I'm puzzled and I don't know where to look. > > > > Bob >  > > >        >  > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi All, In Cunninghame Ayrshire one may often find the sencond name of Landsborough Cunningham Reid Warner Eglington All prominent personalities during the 18th and 19th century. Also as mentioned the names of the Minister of the day and the Physicians. One of my searches involved the question as to why my ancestor on my Reid and Logan family was named Joanna Shearer Logan, granddaughter of my 3x grandfather William Logan., born 1786 Stevenston. Unusual Christian name for the day and never could find a connection to Shearer till I was able to find the Poor Relief record for my ancestor: Minute book CO3/59/2 Stevenston Poor Relief 3 June 1859 William Logan collier applied for aid being advanced in age and his wife also unfit to do anything for their support - has rent from the Shearers house in Cowroding, kindly granted by his granddaughter Joanna Shearer in America. Allowed 2/- per week. Through this Poor Relief record I was able to fast forward and find the descendants of Joanna who were only living about 35 minutes from my home in BC Canada. It is a great journey! All the best Linda Nordby ----- Original Message ----- From: Janet MacDonald <glaschujan@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Monday, November 8, 2010 8:40 am Subject: Re: [AYR] Middle name mystery To: ayrshire@rootsweb.com > I had wondered about an ancestor's middle names for a long time, > and discovered recently that she was named for the minister of > the parish and his wife, might be worth a bit of exploration of > that sort? > > Janet > > --- Original Message ----- > From: "The Duffs" <the4duffs@verizon.net> > To: <AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 10:22 PM > Subject: [AYR] MacFarlane middle name mystery > > > > All- > > I have been very puzzled by the middle name of MacFarlane in > my > > ancestor's names. There are two of them - James (b 1856) and > Thomas (b. > > 1864). <snip> > > > I'm puzzled and I don't know where to look. > > > > Bob > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I've also read and can easily believe that folks sometimes named their children after nobles and lairds. In my research of several American families, I've found more than once that sons were named for Presidents. In my husband's family tree there are Benjamin Franklin Layman and George Washington Layman. In a tree I did for a friend, there are Abraham Lincoln Copeland and George Washington Copeland. George Washington was particularly popular and appears numerous times among the families I've studied. I even saw a family (the last name of which I don't now recall but will list as Smith) with all three sons named for Presidents: Abraham Lincoln Smith, Benjamin Franklin Smith, and George Washington Smith. Loretta -----Original Message----- From: ayrshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ayrshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Janet MacDonald Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 9:38 AM To: ayrshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AYR] Middle name mystery I had wondered about an ancestor's middle names for a long time, and discovered recently that she was named for the minister of the parish and his wife, might be worth a bit of exploration of that sort?   Janet   --- Original Message ----- From: "The Duffs" <the4duffs@verizon.net> To: <AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 10:22 PM Subject: [AYR] MacFarlane middle name mystery > All- >  I have been very puzzled by the middle name of MacFarlane in my > ancestor's names.  There are two of them - James (b 1856) and Thomas (b. > 1864).  <snip>   > I'm puzzled and I don't know where to look. > > Bob   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am researching the above names in the Maybole and Girvan areas. I would be delighted to find anyone who is connected. Kay > > ______________________________________________ This email has been scanned by Netintelligence http://www.netintelligence.com/email

Hello, I have been researching the names Jamieson and Pettigrew both from Beith Ayr I have Barr Jamieson born April 2nd 1798 married to Ann Pettigrew born Feb 6th 1801 married July 23, 1819 at Beith Ayr. They arrived to NZ aboard the ship Duchess of Argyle in 1842. I am searching for the descendants of the eldest child Robert who stayed in Scotland. He was Robert Jamieson born Jan 30th, 1824 married Janet Howie . Regards Fay Dobos New Zealand.

Hello Bob and all, Funnily enough, I had the same problem with my G GF, Andrew McFarlan McLetchie. After years of wondering, I discovered from a Census return that my GG GF was in the employ of a John McFarlan. Just goes to show that the answer may not be as obvious as family names passed down....good luck ! Cheers Andrew ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Duffs" <the4duffs@verizon.net> To: <AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 10:22 PM Subject: [AYR] MacFarlane middle name mystery > All- > I have been very puzzled by the middle name of MacFarlane in my > ancestor's names. There are two of them - James (b 1856) and Thomas (b. > 1864). Now, a little background here - My great grandfather was Andrew > Robertson Scollick Duff because he was born out of wedlock to Jean > Scollick and Andrew Robertson almost 5 years before Jean Scollick married > John Duff (of whom I know that he was born in Glasgow and his parents > were Jean McMillin and John Duff and died in 1870). Ok, I got it now that > great grandfather Andrew got his name after his true father. > > Now two years before Jean married John in 1858, she had Thomas' brother > James MacFarlane Duff. Thomas was born in 1864 - 6 years after they wed. > > Why oh why would she name him Thomas MacFarlane Duff? Was James the > illegitimate son of John Duff? > > No record of father on James birth certificate. John Duff was the father > of Thomas. No previous generations of Scollick had MacFarlane > connections. It must be from John's side then. > > Could the Macfarlane be from grandfather and uncles of John? > > I'm puzzled and I don't know where to look. > > Bob > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message