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    1. Re: [AYR] Lavat Blue Knitted Tam
    2. "E" Sharp
    3. Thank you all for your ideas, but these are the new Lavat Blue Tams which I believe is called a Balmoral. I am looking for the older model, an actual knitted one similar to this. It is knitted with the Lavat Blue yarn and has the pom pom on the top. I am trying to find out if someone is knitting and selling these - these days.......unfortunately, I never learned to knit. So far, I have not been able to find through google a picture of one that I am searching for. I think my husband probably saw it in one of the many, many, many books he reads. Elaine Sharp Sacramento CA USA

    11/30/2010 02:34:22
    1. Re: [AYR] Ayrshire Emigration to Ireland 1700-1750
    2. Mike Boyd
    3. There were Comptrollers of Customs at Irvine and Ayr. Could these have "kept" lists of passenagers? Mike Boyd ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Wilson" <neepdocker@gmail.com> To: <ayrshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 8:15 PM Subject: [AYR] Ayrshire Emigration to Ireland 1700-1750 > Hi Jim > > A very interesting topic especially with the Irish Plantation and the > back and forward traffic of people of people after that. I haven't > been able to find any passenger lists although many of the bookings were > made through a Sattlcoats 'travel agent' A lot of traffic also went > through Port Patrick and many of the local maps show this as the > location when heading south. Ardrossan did not have a port as such until > the early 1800s. Robert Burns when working with the Excise covered the > ports of Irvine and Saltcoats. There was quite heavy sea traffic > between Saltcoats and Ireland around this time taking local coal to > Ireland > > Graham Wilson > www.ayrshireroots.com > >

    11/29/2010 02:37:38
    1. Re: [AYR] Scotland to Ireland in 1650's
    2. Loretta Layman
    3. Hi Norma. At the website of the National Archives of Scotland are 28 references to the name Cowden between 1100 and 1700. It would take some study to determine the location of each of those events, but here are those referring specifically to people named Cowden: 1. A transaction dated 1632 mentions John Cowden of Smeitholm, but I haven't been able to locate Smeitholm. 2. Another dated 1619 names John Cowden in Smeitholm and his uncle Peter Cowden. 3. Another, dated 1550, shows Sir James Cowden as witness to a transaction for land in the former county of Edinburghshire. http://www.nas.gov.uk/onlineCatalogue/ Also, keeping in mind that family names sometimes were the same as place names, I checked www.streetmap.co.uk. There are several places listed, all in the northeast counties of Scotland (though they aren't officially called counties any more): Aberdeenshire, Clackmannanshire, Falkirk, Fife, Stirling, and Perth and Kinross. I would look for the family in each of those counties at www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk. Loretta -----Original Message----- From: ayrshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ayrshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Norma Roberts Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 7:07 PM To: AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com Subject: [AYR] Scotland to Ireland in 1650's I have been watching the list on this subject and it got me to wondering if anyone can help me figure out maybe where in Scotland my ancestors came from. May not ayrshire. Over here in US the story on my ancestor (Thomas MacCowden) is he was born in Scotland in abt 1630 and moved to Ireland in 1688. The old Cowden home in Ireland was at Manor Cunningham near Londonderry on the road to Letterkenny. There is still standing a large building called the "Cowden House".He supposed to have died at Cowden Row, Letterkenny, Ireland. His son Thomas Cowden was born in Scotland but died in Ireland. My question would be where in Scotland would maybe these MacCowdens have come from to go to the above area of Ireland. I believe that Londonderry is on County Derry Ireland. I have never tried to figure out any of this because it is beyond my scope of understanding any parts of Ireland or Scotland. Maybe some here can styeer me in the right direction to maybe figure out where in Scotland to start looking for my MacCowdens. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    11/29/2010 01:38:46
    1. [AYR] Scotland to Ireland in 1650's
    2. Norma Roberts
    3. I have been watching the list on this subject and it got me to wondering if anyone can help me figure out maybe where in Scotland my ancestors came from. May not ayrshire. Over here in US the story on my ancestor (Thomas MacCowden) is he was born in Scotland in abt 1630 and moved to Ireland in 1688. The old Cowden home in Ireland was at Manor Cunningham near Londonderry on the road to Letterkenny. There is still standing a large building called the "Cowden House".He supposed to have died at Cowden Row, Letterkenny, Ireland. His son Thomas Cowden was born in Scotland but died in Ireland. My question would be where in Scotland would maybe these MacCowdens have come from to go to the above area of Ireland. I believe that Londonderry is on County Derry Ireland. I have never tried to figure out any of this because it is beyond my scope of understanding any parts of Ireland or Scotland. Maybe some here can styeer me in the right direction to maybe figure out where in Scotland to start looking for my MacCowdens.

    11/29/2010 11:07:27
    1. [AYR] Lavat Blue Knitted Tam
    2. "E" Sharp
    3. I believe this is part of the Scottish genealogy. My husband is a Scot and he has been wanting a Lavat Blue Knitted Tam (like they used to wear in the olden days according to him and only Lavat Blue color) for a very long time. I believe it may have been "boiled wool?" I would like to buy him one for Christmas but have no idea where to look. We live in the US - CA so it would have to be shipped here. Anyone have any idea of who might be making these these days? Thank you. Elaine Sharp Sacramento, California

    11/29/2010 09:51:22
    1. Re: [AYR] Ayrshire Emigration to Ireland 1700-1750
    2. Irene Macleod
    3. Going to Ireland would not be regarded as real 'emigrating' and the boats that took them would not necessarily be large. For example it would be possible to sail in a small boat across the Firth of Clyde from Ayr to Arran and then to the Mull of Kintyre and from there to Larne ...you can see Ulster from the Mull of Kintyre. Recently I was reading part of the diaries of Mary Ann Wodrow who lived on the Wee Cumbrae in the Clyde in the 1700s ...she gallivanted about from the island to the mainland seemingly in the same way as you or I would take a bus into town. When she wanted a boat she lit a fire and a boat would come over and pick her up. I've also had a hunt in my books and found one called 'The Scottish Migration to Ulster in the reign of James 1' by M Perceval Maxwell . Talking about the ships trading with Ulster in the early 1600s he says 43 of them came from the Clyde ports. He talks about the journey time between Scotland and Co Down only being 3 hours in a favourable wind and that in the summer ships would arrive 2 or 3 times a week carrying goods and immigrants. Going to Ulster was not like going to the USA ...one could always come back <g> Irene

    11/29/2010 09:22:19
    1. Re: [AYR] Ayrshire Emigration to Ireland 1700-1750
    2. Loretta Layman
    3. Thanks for the great info Irene. I have a family which, in the 17th century, kept a home in Irvine, Ayrshire but did business in Ulster, with the husband (Henry Lin or Lyne) described as a merchant in Irvine and in Antrim and Donegal. -----Original Message----- From: ayrshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ayrshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Irene Macleod Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 11:22 AM To: Ayrshire-L@rootsweb.co Subject: Re: [AYR] Ayrshire Emigration to Ireland 1700-1750 Going to Ireland would not be regarded as real 'emigrating' and the boats that took them would not necessarily be large. For example it would be possible to sail in a small boat across the Firth of Clyde from Ayr to Arran and then to the Mull of Kintyre and from there to Larne ...you can see Ulster from the Mull of Kintyre. Recently I was reading part of the diaries of Mary Ann Wodrow who lived on the Wee Cumbrae in the Clyde in the 1700s ...she gallivanted about from the island to the mainland seemingly in the same way as you or I would take a bus into town. When she wanted a boat she lit a fire and a boat would come over and pick her up. I've also had a hunt in my books and found one called 'The Scottish Migration to Ulster in the reign of James 1' by M Perceval Maxwell . Talking about the ships trading with Ulster in the early 1600s he says 43 of them came from the Clyde ports. He talks about the journey time between Scotland and Co Down only being 3 hours in a favourable wind and that in the summer ships would arrive 2 or 3 times a week carrying goods and immigrants. Going to Ulster was not like going to the USA ...one could always come back <g> Irene

    11/29/2010 04:37:05
    1. [AYR] Ayrshire Emigration to Ireland 1700-1750
    2. Graham Wilson
    3. Hi Jim A very interesting topic especially with the Irish Plantation and the back and forward traffic of people of people after that. I haven't been able to find any passenger lists although many of the bookings were made through a Sattlcoats 'travel agent' A lot of traffic also went through Port Patrick and many of the local maps show this as the location when heading south. Ardrossan did not have a port as such until the early 1800s. Robert Burns when working with the Excise covered the ports of Irvine and Saltcoats. There was quite heavy sea traffic between Saltcoats and Ireland around this time taking local coal to Ireland Graham Wilson www.ayrshireroots.com On 29/11/2010 08:00, ayrshire-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Ayrshire Emigrant Ports in 1700-1750 Time Period? (Jim Good) > 2. Re: Ayrshire Emigrant Ports in 1700-1750 Time Period? (Mike Boyd) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 11:43:55 -0800 > From: Jim Good<jimgood56@gmail.com> > Subject: [AYR] Ayrshire Emigrant Ports in 1700-1750 Time Period? > To: ayrshire@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <AANLkTinTVB+Lsf2eqWkQBJOcubxvy1M-tipJrspbcGTT@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > (1) Could someone please inform me about the most popular ports in Ayrshire > used by emigrants to Northern Ireland? (I am interested in the 1700-1750 > time period)---AND > > (2) What were the most likely ports they would be sailing to in Northern > Ireland? > > Thanks very much, > > Jim Good > Cupertino, CA > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 10:01:45 +1000 > From: "Mike Boyd"<mikejboyd@bigpond.com> > Subject: Re: [AYR] Ayrshire Emigrant Ports in 1700-1750 Time Period? > To: "Jim Good"<jimgood56@gmail.com>,<ayrshire@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID:<0023CB1D948849B09FFEC3999C9D6C65@DD4KCF1S> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Jim > I WOULD ASSUME that Ardrossan, Saltcoasts, Irvine, Troon and Ayr would have > been the the main ports. Perhaps with Irvine and Ayr being the main > commercial centres and therefore the main ports for Ayrshire. > > I am not aware of any passenger lists between Ayrshire and Northern Ireland > form my visits to the three local studies Libraries in Ayrshire. > > Mike Boyd > Brisbane > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Good"<jimgood56@gmail.com> > To:<ayrshire@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 5:43 AM > Subject: [AYR] Ayrshire Emigrant Ports in 1700-1750 Time Period? > > >> (1) Could someone please inform me about the most popular ports in >> Ayrshire >> used by emigrants to Northern Ireland? (I am interested in the 1700-1750 >> time period)---AND >> >> (2) What were the most likely ports they would be sailing to in Northern >> Ireland? >> >> Thanks very much, >> >> Jim Good >> Cupertino, CA >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the AYRSHIRE list administrator, send an email to > AYRSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the AYRSHIRE mailing list, send an email to AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of AYRSHIRE Digest, Vol 5, Issue 311 > **************************************** -- Regards Graham Wilson www.ayrshireroots.com www.ayrshireroots.co.uk www.ayrshire-net.co.uk www.flickr.com/photos/ayrshireroots

    11/29/2010 03:15:29
    1. Re: [AYR] Ayrshire Emigrant Ports in 1700-1750 Time Period?
    2. Mike Boyd
    3. Jim I WOULD ASSUME that Ardrossan, Saltcoasts, Irvine, Troon and Ayr would have been the the main ports. Perhaps with Irvine and Ayr being the main commercial centres and therefore the main ports for Ayrshire. I am not aware of any passenger lists between Ayrshire and Northern Ireland form my visits to the three local studies Libraries in Ayrshire. Mike Boyd Brisbane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Good" <jimgood56@gmail.com> To: <ayrshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 5:43 AM Subject: [AYR] Ayrshire Emigrant Ports in 1700-1750 Time Period? > (1) Could someone please inform me about the most popular ports in > Ayrshire > used by emigrants to Northern Ireland? (I am interested in the 1700-1750 > time period)---AND > > (2) What were the most likely ports they would be sailing to in Northern > Ireland? > > Thanks very much, > > Jim Good > Cupertino, CA > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    11/29/2010 03:01:45
    1. Re: [AYR] Ayrshire Emigration to Ireland 1700-1750
    2. LINDA NORDBY
    3. IOn the subject of early immgration to Ireland have read that Montgomery and Hamilton of Ayrshire sailed initially to Ireland through Port Glasgow. also as Graham has said the smaller ports of Ayrshire were likely not available as early as the 1700 hundreds to facilitate travel the travel, it is indeed an interesting subject and finding the first shipping port in Ayrshire would be a great find. Below text states a relatively unheard story/. Cheers Linda The Dawn of the Ulster-Scots 2006 was be a big year for Ulster-Scots. It was the 400th anniversary of one of the most important events in Ulster-Scots history - the Hamilton and Montgomery Settlement of 1606 - yet like much of our history, its a story that hardly anyone knows about. The Ulster-Scots Agency aims to change that. Here’s a summary of the story: Before the Plantation of Ulster, two Ayrshire Scots - James Hamilton and Hugh Montgomery - pioneered a massive migration from the Lowlands of Scotland to County Antrim and County Down. Starting in May 1606, over ten thousand mainly Presbyterian Lowland Scots made the short voyage across the North Channel, transforming barren Ulster into an industrial powerhouse. Their success inspired King James VI of Scotland and 1 of England's Virginia Plantation of 1607 and his Ulster Plantation of 1610. Their achievement was “The Dawn of the Ulster-Scots”. The lands they came to had been devastated and depopulated by the wars of the late 1500s. Records say that Antrim and Down were “wasted”. The owner of the lands, Con O’Neill, had been imprisoned in Carrickfergus Castle by the late Queen Elizabeth 1 and was probably destined for execution. So Hugh Montgomery hatched an elaborate plan to both free O’Neill and to gain a Royal pardon for him from the newly-crowned King James 1 (formerly King James VI of Scotland) - and Montgomery’s payment was to be half of O’Neill’s lands. However James Hamilton found out and intervened in the negotiations - and won one third of the lands for himself. Hamilton was from Dunlop in Ayrshire, was an academic and had been a founder of Trinity College in Dublin. His new territory included the entire River Bann and the area around Coleraine, as well as a major part of County Down which took in Bangor, part of Comber, Killyleagh, Dundonald and some of the Ards Peninsula. Montgomery was the Sixth Laird of Braidstane and had been a mercenary in the wars in Holland. His new territory included Newtownards, Donaghadee, part of Comber, Greyabbey and a large portion of the Ards Peninsula. Hamilton and Montgomery can rightly be called “The Founding Fathers of the Ulster Scots”. ----- Original Message ----- From: Graham Wilson <neepdocker@gmail.com> Date: Monday, November 29, 2010 4:10 am Subject: [AYR] Ayrshire Emigration to Ireland 1700-1750 To: ayrshire@rootsweb.com > Hi Jim > > A very interesting topic especially with the Irish Plantation > and the > back and forward traffic of people of people after > that. I haven't > been able to find any passenger lists although many of the > bookings were > made through a Sattlcoats 'travel agent' A lot of traffic > also went > through Port Patrick and many of the local maps show this as the > location when heading south. Ardrossan did not have a port as > such until > the early 1800s. Robert Burns when working with the Excise > covered the > ports of Irvine and Saltcoats. There was quite heavy sea > traffic > between Saltcoats and Ireland around this time taking local coal > to Ireland > > Graham Wilson > www.ayrshireroots.com > > > On 29/11/2010 08:00, ayrshire-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Ayrshire Emigrant Ports in 1700- > 1750 Time Period? (Jim Good) > > 2. Re: Ayrshire Emigrant Ports in 1700- > 1750 Time Period? (Mike Boyd) > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > ------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 11:43:55 -0800 > > From: Jim Good<jimgood56@gmail.com> > > Subject: [AYR] Ayrshire Emigrant Ports in 1700-1750 Time Period? > > To: ayrshire@rootsweb.com > > Message-ID: > > <AANLkTinTVB+Lsf2eqWkQBJOcubxvy1M- > tipJrspbcGTT@mail.gmail.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; > charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > > (1) Could someone please inform me about the most popular > ports in Ayrshire > > used by emigrants to Northern Ireland? (I am interested in the > 1700-1750 > > time period)---AND > > > > (2) What were the most likely ports they would be sailing to > in Northern > > Ireland? > > > > Thanks very much, > > > > Jim Good > > Cupertino, CA > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 10:01:45 +1000 > > From: "Mike Boyd"<mikejboyd@bigpond.com> > > Subject: Re: [AYR] Ayrshire Emigrant Ports in 1700-1750 Time Period? > > To: "Jim Good"<jimgood56@gmail.com>,<ayrshire@rootsweb.com> > > Message-ID:<0023CB1D948849B09FFEC3999C9D6C65@DD4KCF1S> > > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > > reply-type=original > > > > Jim > > I WOULD ASSUME that Ardrossan, Saltcoasts, Irvine, Troon and > Ayr would have > > been the the main ports. Perhaps with Irvine and Ayr > being the main > > commercial centres and therefore the main ports for Ayrshire. > > > > I am not aware of any passenger lists between Ayrshire and > Northern Ireland > > form my visits to the three local studies Libraries in Ayrshire. > > > > Mike Boyd > > Brisbane > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jim Good"<jimgood56@gmail.com> > > To:<ayrshire@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 5:43 AM > > Subject: [AYR] Ayrshire Emigrant Ports in 1700-1750 Time Period? > > > > > >> (1) Could someone please inform me about the most popular > ports in > >> Ayrshire > >> used by emigrants to Northern Ireland? (I am interested in > the 1700-1750 > >> time period)---AND > >> > >> (2) What were the most likely ports they would be sailing to > in Northern > >> Ireland? > >> > >> Thanks very much, > >> > >> Jim Good > >> Cupertino, CA > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > To contact the AYRSHIRE list administrator, send an email to > > AYRSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > > To post a message to the AYRSHIRE mailing list, send an email > to AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com. > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE- > request@rootsweb.com> with the word "unsubscribe" without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the > > email with no additional text. > > > > > > End of AYRSHIRE Digest, Vol 5, Issue 311 > > **************************************** > > -- > Regards > > Graham Wilson > > www.ayrshireroots.com > www.ayrshireroots.co.uk > www.ayrshire-net.co.uk > www.flickr.com/photos/ayrshireroots > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    11/29/2010 02:52:51
    1. [AYR] Ayrshire Emigrant Ports in 1700-1750 Time Period?
    2. Jim Good
    3. (1) Could someone please inform me about the most popular ports in Ayrshire used by emigrants to Northern Ireland? (I am interested in the 1700-1750 time period)---AND (2) What were the most likely ports they would be sailing to in Northern Ireland? Thanks very much, Jim Good Cupertino, CA

    11/28/2010 04:43:55
    1. Re: [AYR] an addendum to my previous post about McGENNs etc.
    2. Mike Boyd
    3. Georgia It may help if you told th elsit what hte names were of the 12 children and the period? And what have you looked at in your search. That may kelp others to help you find additional sources. Mike Boyd Brisbane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Georgia" <flashquarter@gmail.com> To: <AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 5:56 AM Subject: [AYR] an addendum to my previous post about McGENNs etc. > Sorry for not being clearer. I am looking more for relatives going forward > to current times than tracing back. I have quite a detailed tree moving > back > in time, I am trying to find out what happened to the 12 siblings of this > one family, the McGENNs of Kilmarnock (Ayr and Troon). > > Many thanks, > > Georgia > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    11/28/2010 02:19:28
    1. [AYR] List of McGENN children as one more addendum to my post
    2. Georgia
    3. Hello, It was suggested by a list member that I list all the siblings in the family I am researching. The names in bold are the ones that I *do not know* what became of them. Many thanks to all who have taken the time to read and reply to my post. I really appreciate it. Georgia *Agnes McGENN Birth 3 Oct 1869 in Portpatrick, Wigtownshire, Scotland Death 28 Jan 1907 in Kilmarnock, Ayrshire, Scotland Married James SILLER (or SILLAR) 3 Jun 1891 in Kilmarnock* 
*Alexander McGENN Birth 19 Sept 1871 in Mochrum, Wigtownshire, Scotland Death Dec 1909 in Coventry, Warwickshire, England* Hugh McGENN (my Great Grandfather) Birth 29 Oct 1873 in Mochrum, Wigtownshire, Scotland Death 29 Dec 1956 in St. Thomas, Elgin County, Ontario, Canada 
*John McGENN Birth 1876 in Mochrum, Wigtownshire, Scotland Death 29 Jan 1942 in Ayr, Ayrshire, Scotland Married Annie Dodds WILSON In Ayr * 
*William McGENN Birth 1879 in Mochrum, Wigtownshire, Scotland Death 10 Mar 1952 in Kilmarnock, Ayrshire, Scotland Married Isabella WILSON in Glasgow* 
Jane McGENN Birth abt 1880 in Penninghame, Wigtownshire, Scotland Death 4 Dec 1939 in Kilmarnock, Ayrshire, Scotland Died of Coal Gas Poisoning, unmarried 
Daniel James McGENN Birth 16 Dec 1882 in Girvan, Ayrshire, Scotland Death 1950? in Chicago, Cook County, Illinois, USA Married Catherine PATON 
Grace McGENN Birth 1885 in Colmonell, Ayrshire, Scotland Death 1 March 1965 in Kilmarnock, Ayrshire, Scotland Did not marry 
James McGENN Birth 1887 in Girvan, Ayrshire, Scotland Death 5 Nov 1914 in Flanders, Belgium Married Christina Ramsay Brown in Glasgow *Annie McGENN Birth 1890 in Colmonell, Ayrshire, Scotland Death Jun 1985 in Kilmarnock, Ayrshire, Scotland Married Edward McCABE in Kilmarnock* 
Helen McGENN (died as an infant)
1891 – 1892 Robert McGENN (died as a child)
1894 – 1902

    11/27/2010 02:56:35
    1. [AYR] Kerr in Ayrshire and others discoveries
    2. The Duffs
    3. Hi all- I love the holidays over here in the USA. We just finished Thanksgiving and I am thankful for having the time to make three discoveries in the family tree. First, I have found that the relation to the Kerr family. John Kerr was a witness to the marriage of my g grandfather Andrew Robertson Duff and Agnes Skelly in 1874. Hugh Kerr (b 1821, Newton, Ayrshire) was John's father and was a coal miner. He married Ann Bone. They had at least 4 kids, Jane, Daniel, John and William. Second, I have found my ties to John Winning, witness at John Duff and Jean Scollick marriage in 1858. I found him in the 1861 Dreghorn Census as being a neighbor to Jean Scollick (nee Marr) who was widowed at the time. Third, I found that James Barr (who married Agnes Thomson) was indeed the one who witnessed my great great grandfather John Duff and Jean Scollick marriage. James Barr was related to the Scollicks through the marriage of John Scollick and Allis Barr. It pays to figure out who were the witnesses to the wedding. It all makes sense to me now. Bob

    11/27/2010 01:27:59
    1. [AYR] GIBB
    2. Mary Paton
    3. I have a George Ranken Gibb (or possibly Logan) born about 1819 and baptized Cumnock/New Cumnock 1820. Parents Jean Gibb and John Logan of Knockshinnock. His mother sponsored him at baptism. He would be my gg-grandmother's half-brother and I'd love to know what happened to him. Any ideas or clues welcome. Cheers, Mary

    11/27/2010 11:44:19
    1. [AYR] an addendum to my previous post about McGENNs etc.
    2. Georgia
    3. Sorry for not being clearer. I am looking more for relatives going forward to current times than tracing back. I have quite a detailed tree moving back in time, I am trying to find out what happened to the 12 siblings of this one family, the McGENNs of Kilmarnock (Ayr and Troon). Many thanks, Georgia

    11/27/2010 07:56:24
    1. Re: [AYR] New Member - Researching McGENN, McCABE, SILLER (SILLAR), HUNTER, McMURTRIE
    2. LINDA NORDBY
    3. Welcome Georgia. Are you able to give any other information regarding your Annie Gibb? I am cousin to a Gibb researcher in Saltcoats that may be able to assist. The Gibb surname begins in my data base about 1815 with William Gibb b Ireland and Matilda Stibbard b Wigton, the family moves into Stevenston/ Saltcoats and Ardrossam. with the birth of of David 1859 Best regards, Linda Vanoouver ----- Original Message ----- From: Georgia <flashquarter@gmail.com> Date: Saturday, November 27, 2010 9:31 am Subject: [AYR] New Member - Researching McGENN, McCABE, SILLER (SILLAR), HUNTER, McMURTRIE To: AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.comi > Hello all, > > My main family is the McGENNs of Kilmanock (from Wigtownshire). > But also in > Ayr and Troon. My focus is James McGENN and Annie McGENN (nee > GIBB). They > had 12 children. I am descended from one of them. As a > special project, I > am trying to find out what happened to the others in this one family. > > The other names mentioned are are the married names of the > female children. > > Does anyone have access to cemetery records or memorial > inscriptions for > cemeteries in Ayr and Troon? > > Any advice on how to proceed on finding births and marriages > after 1930? > > Kind regards from Canada, > > Georgia > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    11/27/2010 04:16:34
    1. Re: [AYR] New Member - Researching McGENN, McCABE, SILLER (SILLAR), HUNTER, McMURTRIE
    2. Irene Mitchell
    3. Georgia: I knew some of the Gibb family in Troon (many moons ago) and have one of them in my extended family tree, viz: Ardrossan & Salcoats Herald, 1924-04-04 Marriages GIBB-SPROAT. At St. Andrew's U.F. Church, Kilmarnock, on 2nd April, by the Rev. S.J.M. Compton, assisted by the Rev. Robert Smith, Troon, Charles Gibb, eldest son of Mr and Mrs Charles Gibb, Troon, to Mary McKinnel, second daughter of Mr and Mrs William Sproat, Kilmarnock. Any connection to yours? Mitch

    11/27/2010 03:07:25
    1. [AYR] New Member - Researching McGENN, McCABE, SILLER (SILLAR), HUNTER, McMURTRIE
    2. Georgia
    3. Hello all, My main family is the McGENNs of Kilmanock (from Wigtownshire). But also in Ayr and Troon. My focus is James McGENN and Annie McGENN (nee GIBB). They had 12 children. I am descended from one of them. As a special project, I am trying to find out what happened to the others in this one family. The other names mentioned are are the married names of the female children. Does anyone have access to cemetery records or memorial inscriptions for cemeteries in Ayr and Troon? Any advice on how to proceed on finding births and marriages after 1930? Kind regards from Canada, Georgia

    11/27/2010 03:01:02
    1. Re: [AYR] Kerr family. Farmers at Lochridge, between Beith and Kilbirnie
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: hughgemmell Surnames: Lochridge/Lockridge/Loughridge Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/1153.1180/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Somewhat of a digression but I am curious about the name of Lochridge of West Lochridge Farm, as that is the maiden name of my wife (in North America the spelling was changed to "Lockridge"). The name originated in Ayrshire, as there is a Lochridge Burn as well as a Lochridge Mains and also a Lochridge House located just outside of Stewarton. As far as I know there are no Lochridges left in Scotland as they were all transplanted to Antrim during the period of the Covenanters. In Ireland the name is Loughridge. My wife's family emigrated to Canada during the Great Famine of the 1840's, but many preceded them to the United States as early as the 17th Century. I would be interested if there is anyone with knowledge of the name in Ayrshire or the farms connected with the name. Hugh Gemmell Toronto, Canada Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    11/26/2010 07:51:08