This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: RobbieWilson45 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14368.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Keith, This my cousin's wife's family. I have researched this family who came from Ayrshire, Dumfriesshire, Kirkcudbrightshire and in the Highlands and in England. All the best Robbie Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: hughgemmell Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14399.3.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you Mary, That makes your connection to the Gemmill-Youngs at High Gainford Farm very clear. Whereas, I am not yet sure I AM connected. My GGGrandfather James Gemmill, 1776-1857, lived in Kilmarnock where he was a muslin agent. He had a sister Margaret who lived in an area of Kilmarnock called "Beansburn" and was married to a Thomas Andrew who was a "thatcher". They had at least 2 sons, John and William. The first son, John, m Ann Wallace of Dundonald and in the 1850's this family emigrated to Halton County in Ontario, Canada. Margaret is buried in Kilmaurs. Another brother and sister to James Gemmill lived out their lives in Riccarton, Andrew Gemmill 1800-1869 and Agnes Barnes 1806-1889. Andrew m Margaret Urie and had a family of 5 girls, one of whom emigrated to America. Agnes Gemmill m Robert Barnes and had one surviving son, John. I believe she sometimes acted as a midwife in Riccarton. The parents of THIS family were John Gemmel and Jean Richmond who married in FENWICK! (1775), but I don't yet know what families they were connected to. I understand that you are now living in Wigtonshire, although you have connections to the Youngs of Kilmaurs and Fenwick. One of James Gemmill's children, Margaret Hopkin Gemmill (Lambie), moved to Wigton to join one of her daughters, who raised a family there, and she died in Newton Stewart. That was c 1912. How long have YOU lived in Wigtonshire? I don't suppose you know who now owns the farm at High Gainford, or even if it is still in the Young-Gemmill family. We visited in Fenwick just over a year ago and stayed at a B&B farm there called West Tannacrief, but I'm sure the area has changed almost entirely from 100 years ago! Thanks for getting back to me. Hugh Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: auch123 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14399.3.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi I will send what I have and see if anything fits with your line. Unfortunately the only thing I have on the Wyllie side is Christina. James Young married Elizabeth Fulton (don't have any dates). They had a son Thomas Y. born 1820, Kilmarnock Parish. He married Helen Lockhart 1849, Dundonald. They had children James Thomas Y, Janet Y, John Y and Elizabeth Y. James Thomas Y married Elizabeth Gemmill 1878 High Gainford Farm, Fenwick and had children Christina, Helen, Thomas, Andrew and Elizabeth. Janet Y married John Currie 1875 Redding Farm, Kilmarnock (sometimes shown as Monkredding). They had children Ellen & Robert. John Y married Margaret Service 1883 Towerhill Farm, Kilmaurs and had children Mary Miller Y, Thomas Y (my grandfather), Helen Lockhart Y, Margaret Service Y, William Service Y, John Y and Janet Y. Mary Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

John Nodisdale is to the NE of Largs - about 6 kms. I have taken Kilbryde to mean West Kilbride just on the bank of the River Clyde. Mike Boyd Brisbane -----Original Message----- From: John Carswell Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2013 1:28 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SCT-RENFREW] Naristoun, in Lanarkshire Hello Mike , Take a look at this site as it mentions Naristoun in the 3rd last parra :- http://www.scottish-places.info/towns/townhistory551.html ," the lands of Nodisdale, Kilbryde, Narristoun, and Cairtoun, " Google also brings up lots of hits. You may be able to piece it together. John Carswell . Interests :-Carswell ,Stevenson ,Howie , McLuckie, McKay, Gemmell ,all of Neilston Parish Renfrewshire & McLuckie.

Thank you to all those that have replied - publically and privately. >From the map that Don has cited and putting the Clyde River in the right direction, it would appear that Nariston is east of Rutherglen in about the Eastfield and Cambuslang area. However David Thom and Arrick Wilkinson have suggested Nerston (variously Nerstown / Narriston / Nairstoun) - is a settlement in the parish of Kilbride, Lanarkshire just north of East Kilbride on the A749 road. I will have to take this advise with me when I go to Glasgow next year and visit the Mitchell Library to confirm this location The Scots Peerage Founded on Wood's edition of Sir Robert Douglas's Peerage of Scotland, Containing an Historical and Genealogical Account of the Nobility of that Kingdom, ed Sir James Balfour Paul, Volume V, 1908, pp 147-149, says:- "THOMAS, Earl of Arran, is first mentioned in 1467, when he was, by his father's influence, married to the Lady Mary, sister of the reigning King, (then a minor), James III., and created Earl of Arran by charter dated 26 April. Though this was the customary method of creating Scottish earldoms at that date, 'the form of the erection of the earldom of Arran was somewhat peculiar,' (See note by R. R. Stodart, Lyon Clerk Depute, The Complete Peerage, i. 132) four charters being simultaneously granted, 26 April 1467, to Thomas, Master of Boyd, the designed Earl, and Mary, his wife. (Reg. Mag. Sig., i. Nos. 912-915.) The first of these conveyed the isle of Arran, within the sheriffdom of Bute, the second the lands of Stewartoun, Tarrinzean, Turnberry, and Risedalemure, in Ayrshire, and Meikle Cumrey, in Bute; the third Cavertoun, in Roxburghshire, Teling in Forfarshire and Polgavy, in Perthshire, and the last Kilmarnock, Dalry, Kilbride, Nodesdale, Monfudd and Flat, in Ayrshire, and Naristoun, in Lanarkshire, on the resignation of his father. He sat in Parliament 16 October 1467. On the 25 April 1468 he was with other nobles, including Lord Boyd, a party to a mutual agreement anent the guardianship of the King, (Boyd Papers.) and the same year was one of the commissioners appointed to visit foreign courts to select a wife for the King. A marriage treaty having been arranged with the Princess Margaret of Denmark, he proceeded with a noble train to escort her to Scotland. >From the above list of Charters, it said that "Naristoun, in Lanarkshire" in 1467 and not in Bute as some of the other members have suggest While it is known that Simon the father of Sir Robert Boyd, was the younger step brother of Walter, the High Stewart of Scotland, however, it is not known from Boyd history if Naristoun was given to them for assisting Robert the Bruce in March 1306 or if it was an Estate given by Walter Stewart in the late 1100's or if it came to the Boyds some other way before 1467. Thank your for those that have replied. Mike Boyd Historical Committee House of Boyd Society -----Original Message----- From: Don Muirhead Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2013 1:19 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SCT-RENFREW] Naristoun, in Lanarkshire Nairstoun was a small estate south of Glasgow in Rutherglen just west of the Clyde adjacent to the Hamilton Farm. I believe it evolved into the Rutherglen Farm. You can see it here http://maps.nls.uk/view/00000432 Find Glasgow look for Ruglan then look below it. Don -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Boyd Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 9:52 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [SCT-RENFREW] Naristoun, in Lanarkshire While this location is not in either Ayrshire and Renfrewshire, could any member give me directions to where in Lanarkshire that Narristoun, Nariston might be. This name has been taken from a 1467 Charter and would have been the name of an Estate. I could not find this in the two Atlases that I have but I do have the 1:50,000 Landranger Ordnance Map for Glasgow. So hopefully that will allow me to find the general area. Thank you Mike Boyd Brisbane, Aust. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Mike, I wonder if there are any Harrises there with you in Australia that have roots in Ayrshire? Or McCalls? We have a DNA Harris group that goes back there very early and on tow of the lines go to Australia I think directly from Ireland, but we don't know who the submitters were so impossible to use the lines. I am keeping an eye out for Boyds. I have not found as many as expected but do see then in the early PA lines and some mention in the Harris Valentine Dunlop book on the PA Harrises that also tie in to Boggs very early. The Harris/Herries line is connected to the border Douglases and others like the Hamiltons, Stewarts, Calhouns, Alexanders, Glens, Scotts, Caldwells, Wallaces, Armstrongs, Cunninghams etc. The Harris line is discussed in a book that is available online as a free google ebook is Colonel George Stuart and Margaret Harris by Robert Stewart. In it is the Mifflintown Document written in 1801 which outlines the descendants of Edward Herries and Flora Douglas of Ayrshire. Especially son Robert Harris who married Dorothy Wylie/Wiley and had seven sons and one daughter. I would love to find out more on Dorothy's family. There are many Wylies by the Harrises as they moved across the United States but we do not have her direct line. The name Gemmil also caught my attention as that surname is also mentioned in the Stewart book. Buchanans are also close and one of the grandchildren of Robert and Dorothy Margaret Harris daughter of John Harris and Grizzel Steel stayed behind and married Andrew Buchanan if that sounds familiar to anyone. Our Harrises which are Group 3 are know to have emigrated about 1730 with the Pickens, Calhouns, and McCalls to Lancaster, PA and migrated outwards. There is a James Harris in Wythe, VA that is connected some way and lived until about 1790 and died at age 110 and was the grandfather of Lt Col James McCall who served inn Abbeville, SC during the Revolution. Would love to exchange info with anyone researching this very interesting group of immigrants. The families stayed as a pack for centuries so I would love to hear from anyone researching any of these lines as I have learned a lot about my own family by looking in their alliance with these families. Or is anyone has suggestions on finding McBays which might be McBee or McBath. Or if anyone else has ancestors in Abbeville, South Carolina or Mecklneburg, North Carolina during the American RevolutionŠ I also wonder if there is an Ayrshire DNA group that anyone knows about? We have several Group 3 DNA lines now but several unplaces and I hoped maybe the wives' families might help to place the Harrises. Thanks Mike for all the work you do to keep the board active and informational! Terese Mitchell On 10/13/13 3:00 AM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote: > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Gemmill-Young-Wylie ([email protected]) > 2. Re: [SCT-RENFREW] Naristoun, in Lanarkshire (Mike Boyd) > 3. Re: [SCT-RENFREW] Naristoun, in Lanarkshire (Mike Boyd) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 17:12:21 -0000 >From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [AYR] Gemmill-Young-Wylie >To: <[email protected]> >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Content-Type: text/plain; > >This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > >Author: auch123 >Surnames: >Classification: queries > >Message Board URL: > >http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14399 >.3.1/mb.ashx > >Message Board Post: > >Hi Hugh. It's me again. Not much time at the moment, but I will be in >touch tomorrow. Christina Young's father I think was James Thomas Young, >and one of his brothers was John Young. He is my g.grandfather. > >Important Note: >The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you >would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link >above and respond on the board. > > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 2 >Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2013 10:48:08 +1000 >From: "Mike Boyd" <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [AYR] [SCT-RENFREW] Naristoun, in Lanarkshire >To: <[email protected]>, <[email protected]>, > <[email protected]> >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > >Thank you to all those that have replied - publically and privately. > >>From the map that Don has cited and putting the Clyde River in the right >direction, it would appear that Nariston is east of Rutherglen in about >the >Eastfield and Cambuslang area. > >However David Thom and Arrick Wilkinson have suggested Nerston (variously >Nerstown / Narriston / Nairstoun) - is a settlement in the parish of >Kilbride, Lanarkshire just north of East Kilbride on the A749 road. I >will >have to take this advise with me when I go to Glasgow next year and visit >the Mitchell Library to confirm this location > >The Scots Peerage Founded on Wood's edition of Sir Robert Douglas's >Peerage >of Scotland, Containing an Historical and Genealogical Account of the >Nobility of that Kingdom, ed Sir James Balfour Paul, Volume V, 1908, pp >147-149, says:- > > "THOMAS, Earl of Arran, is first mentioned in 1467, when he was, by >his >father's influence, married to the Lady Mary, sister of the reigning >King, >(then a minor), James III., and created Earl of Arran by charter dated 26 >April. Though this was the customary method of creating Scottish >earldoms >at that date, 'the form of the erection of the earldom of Arran was >somewhat >peculiar,' (See note by R. R. Stodart, Lyon Clerk Depute, The Complete >Peerage, i. 132) four charters being simultaneously granted, 26 April >1467, >to Thomas, Master of Boyd, the designed Earl, and Mary, his wife. (Reg. >Mag. Sig., i. Nos. 912-915.) The first of these conveyed the isle of >Arran, >within the sheriffdom of Bute, the second the lands of Stewartoun, >Tarrinzean, Turnberry, and Risedalemure, in Ayrshire, and Meikle Cumrey, >in >Bute; the third Cavertoun, in Roxburghshire, Teling in Forfarshire and >Polgavy, in Perthshire, and the last Kilmarnock, Dalry, Kilbride, >Nodesdale, >Monfudd and Flat, in Ayrshire, and Naristoun, in Lanarkshire, on the >resignation of his father. He sat in Parliament 16 October 1467. On the >25 >April 1468 he was with other nobles, including Lord Boyd, a party to a >mutual agreement anent the guardianship of the King, (Boyd Papers.) and >the >same year was one of the commissioners appointed to visit foreign courts >to >select a wife for the King. A marriage treaty having been arranged with >the >Princess Margaret of Denmark, he proceeded with a noble train to escort >her >to Scotland. > >>From the above list of Charters, it said that "Naristoun, in >>Lanarkshire" in >1467 and not in Bute as some of the other members have suggest > >While it is known that Simon the father of Sir Robert Boyd, was the >younger >step brother of Walter, the High Stewart of Scotland, however, it is not >known from Boyd history if Naristoun was given to them for assisting >Robert >the Bruce in March 1306 or if it was an Estate given by Walter Stewart in >the late 1100's or if it came to the Boyds some other way before 1467. > >Thank your for those that have replied. > >Mike Boyd >Historical Committee >House of Boyd Society > >-----Original Message----- >From: Don Muirhead >Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2013 1:19 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [SCT-RENFREW] Naristoun, in Lanarkshire > >Nairstoun was a small estate south of Glasgow in Rutherglen just west of >the >Clyde adjacent to the Hamilton Farm. I believe it evolved into the >Rutherglen Farm. > >You can see it here http://maps.nls.uk/view/00000432 Find Glasgow look for >Ruglan then look below it. > >Don > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] >[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Boyd >Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 9:52 PM >To: [email protected]; [email protected] >Subject: [SCT-RENFREW] Naristoun, in Lanarkshire > >While this location is not in either Ayrshire and Renfrewshire, could any >member give me directions to where in Lanarkshire that Narristoun, >Nariston >might be. > >This name has been taken from a 1467 Charter and would have been the name >of >an Estate. I could not find this in the two Atlases that I have but I do >have the 1:50,000 Landranger Ordnance Map for Glasgow. So hopefully that >will allow me to find the general area. > >Thank you > >Mike Boyd >Brisbane, Aust. > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 3 >Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2013 10:55:10 +1000 >From: "Mike Boyd" <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [AYR] [SCT-RENFREW] Naristoun, in Lanarkshire >To: <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > >John >Nodisdale is to the NE of Largs - about 6 kms. I have taken Kilbryde to >mean West Kilbride just on the bank of the River Clyde. > >Mike Boyd >Brisbane > >-----Original Message----- >From: John Carswell >Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2013 1:28 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [SCT-RENFREW] Naristoun, in Lanarkshire > >Hello Mike , > > Take a look at this site as it mentions Naristoun in the >3rd last parra :- >http://www.scottish-places.info/towns/townhistory551.html > > ," the lands of Nodisdale, Kilbryde, >Narristoun, and Cairtoun, " > > Google also brings up lots of hits. You may be able to piece >it together. > > John Carswell . > > Interests :-Carswell ,Stevenson ,Howie , McLuckie, McKay, >Gemmell ,all of Neilston Parish Renfrewshire & McLuckie. > > > > > >------------------------------ > >To contact the AYRSHIRE list administrator, send an email to >[email protected] > >To post a message to the AYRSHIRE mailing list, send an email to >[email protected] > >__________________________________________________________ >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] >with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the >body of the >email with no additional text. > > >End of AYRSHIRE Digest, Vol 8, Issue 231 >****************************************

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: auch123 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14399.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Hugh. It's me again. Not much time at the moment, but I will be in touch tomorrow. Christina Young's father I think was James Thomas Young, and one of his brothers was John Young. He is my g.grandfather. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

While this location is not in either Ayrshire and Renfrewshire, could any member give me directions to where in Lanarkshire that Narristoun, Nariston might be. This name has been taken from a 1467 Charter and would have been the name of an Estate. I could not find this in the two Atlases that I have but I do have the 1:50,000 Landranger Ordnance Map for Glasgow. So hopefully that will allow me to find the general area. Thank you Mike Boyd Brisbane, Aust.

Hi Mike I think perhaps *ROTHESAY is what you are looking for. The name was spelt many different ways but article below calls it NARRISTOWN, Hope this is what you were looking for.* *Regards* *Diana Nowell* * * http://www.electricscotland.com/history/nation/rothesay.htm* * *The Scottish Nation Rothesay* ------------------------------ *ROTHESAY*, Duke of, one of the titles which was vested from his birth in the eldest son of the possessor of the Scottish throne. The first who bore it was the unfortunate David, earl of Carrick, and prince and steward of Scotland, eldest son of King Robert III. In a solemn council held at Scone 28th April 1398, he was created duke of Rothesay in the Isle of Bute, his uncle the earl of Fife, regent of Scotland, being at the same time created duke of Albany. This was the first introduction of the ducal dignity into Scotland. The duke of Rothesay has continued from that time the title of the king’s eldest son as a collateral for Scotland to that of prince of Wales for England. David, first duke of Rothesay, then in his 29th year, is currently said to have fallen a victim to the ambition of his uncle the regent Albany, on 27th March 1402, but it is more likely that he died from weakness and dysentery, the consequence of his dissipated life. The dukedom was transferred by charter, dated at Perth 10th December 1404, to his brother, James, afterwards James I. of Scotland. By an act of parliament passed 27th November 1409, it was declared that “the lordship of Bute, with the castle of Rothesay, the lordship of Cowal, with the castle of Dunoon, the earldom of Carrick, the lands of Dundonald, with the castle of the same, the barony of Renfrew, with the lands and tenandries of the same, the lordship of Stewarton, the lordship of Kilmarnock, with the castle of the same, the lordship of Dalry; the lands of Nodisdale, Kilbryde, Narristown, and Cavirton; also the lands of Frarynzan, Drumcall, Trebrauch, with the fortalice ofthe same, ‘principibus primogenitia Regium Scotiae successorum nostrorum, perpetuis futuris temporibus, uniantur, incorporentur, et annexantur.’” Since that period, the dukedom of Rothesay, in common with the principality and stewartry of Scotland, the earldom of Carrick, the lordship of the Isles, and the barony of Renfrew, has been vested in the first-born son and heir apparent of the sovereign, with all the privileges of a peer of Scotland. In the event of the death of the eldest son, these titles pass to the king’s next surviving son, to the exclusion of a grandson, the son of the eldest prince; and when the king has no son or heir apparent, they vest in himself, as the representative of the prince who ought to possess them. He can neither give them nor withhold them. In the Union roll of the peerage of Scotland, that is, the list of Scottish peers as it stood on 1st May 1707, laid before the House of Lords, the title of duke of Rothesay is not inserted, as the then sovereign, Queen Anne, had no son in existence at the time. On the accession of George I. in 1714, his eldest son and heir apparent, George, prince of Wales, afterwards George II., became of course duke of Rothesay, and that title was accordingly placed at the head of the roll of the peers of Scotland. His Royal highness as duke of Rothesay, voted twice by proxy at the election of Scots peers, the first time on 3d March 1715, and the second time on 28th February 1716. When he succeeded as king, his eldest son, Frederick, prince of Wales, became duke of Rothesay of right, but he never exercised his privilege of voting for a Scottish peer. He predeceased his father, 20th March 1751, and on 20th April following, his eldest son, George, afterwards George III., was created, by patent, prince of Wales and earl of Chester in England. In this patent the titles of prince and steward of Scotland, duke of Rothesay, earl of Carrick, lord of the Isles, and baron of Renfrew, in Scotland, as well as that of duke of Cornwall in England, were omitted, these honours being annexed to estates limited by law to the eldest son and heir apparent of the sovereign. In 1751, a signature being presented to the barons of Exchequer in Scotland, for expediting a charter by the king as prince and steward of Scotland, a doubt arose as to whether the principality did not belong to Prince George, the eldest son of the last prince as heir apparent of the crown. In December of the same year, the question became the subject of a conference between the whole judges of the courts of session and exchequer, but they differed in opinion, and the point was not then determined. Subsequently a temporary act of parliament was passed, entitled an act to obviate doubts that had arisen with regard to the admission of vassals within the principality of Scotland until the prince became of age, and authorizing the king to possess the principality and to exercise all acts connected with it. The prince of Wales attained majority 4th June 1759, but no farther steps were adopted for ascertaining the right to the principality. On his accession to the throne, 25th October 1760, that right became vested in his majesty, and so continued till 12th August 1762, when his eldest son, afterwards George IV., was born. His Royal highness exercised his privilege as a peer of Scotland by voting by proxy for two representatives of the Scottish peerage 28th March 1787, and at several subsequent elections (See Douglas’ Peerage, Wood’s edition, vol. ii. p. 436.) On 12 October 2013 02:52, Mike Boyd <[email protected]> wrote: > While this location is not in either Ayrshire and Renfrewshire, could any > member give me directions to where in Lanarkshire that Narristoun, Nariston > might be. > > This name has been taken from a 1467 Charter and would have been the name > of an Estate. I could not find this in the two Atlases that I have but I > do have the 1:50,000 Landranger Ordnance Map for Glasgow. So hopefully > that will allow me to find the general area. > > Thank you > > Mike Boyd > Brisbane, Aust. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Good morning Wonder if anyone on the list knows anything about this person who is a "missing relation". Leslie KIRK married to Marion FINDLAY last known address in 1983 was 14 High Street Kilbirnie. Unable to trace him so any and all help would be appreciated. Ewan Steed Ayrshire On-Line a great source for Ayrshire Libraries: FHS: etc. www.ancestryroots.co.uk/ayrshire-onlineindex.htm

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ellenadamson1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14420.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Not sure what you are seeking,as you have both sets of parents.You have the correct parents for Willliam ,Father was William McCall of Beechwood,Irvine. http://www.ayrshire-roots.co.uk/vSignup/login.php Ellen Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dheath1 Surnames: McCall,Breckenridge Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14420/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My Gt. Uncle William married a Janet Breckenridge who had a sister called agnes. William McCall and Janet Breckenridge were both born in Irvine, Ayrshire But William McCall (who was in the mecial corps))DSO was killed in Italy. Send any reply to [email protected] Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dboyce8 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/1897.2.1.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Illene, Information re Hugh Boyce and Jane and their family initially came from my sister's research in Scotland in the early 1970's. I have added bits and pieces. I do not have my sister's notes with me, so I /she may well have recorded Thomas's baptism 1854 as his birth. I visited all the Boyce families in Dalry and surrounds in 1990 while teaching in England and made positive connections descendants of James Boyce (Hugh's brother) and Mary Dickenson. Most visits did nothing to add to the family puzzle. Also spent 2 days in Donaghadee without any luck. At a later time a Boyce cousin from NZ went to Dalry to visit the family and that is when in was confirmed that James Boyce and Elizabeth Hamilton were the parents of James, (and Hugh?) Thanks for the extra bits of information you have sent- I will add it to what I have got. James Boyce and Mary Dickenson had 15 children- all survived! Once shifting to Ayrshire they were iron miners in Dalry, Kilwinning and Dalmellington mainly. Their only child I have little information about is Thomas Boyce, born 25/7/1862 in Kilwinning. That makes him somewhat older than Mary, but a possibility of the Thomas when Mary remarried??? I am putting my time (with a little help from my friends) into establishing links between our Boyce family and the Boyce families in Donaghadee and surrounds, and the Boyce families in Dalry and surrounds. The following are Boyce families in Ayrshire towns and yet be linked to our family: William Boyce and Ann Allen ch. William b. 1857, Dalry. There is a William Boyce born 1828 in Donaghadee. Purely as conjecture I have your Hugh, William and Henry born 1821 Donaghadee as siblings and therefore brothers of James also. However there are a number of Boyce families in Donaghadee and surrounds at this time. Charles Boyce b. 1837 Dalry, o. pithead labourer m. Isabella Crawford, b.1832 Cantyre, Argyll, Scotland ch. Archibald 1859 Dalry Ellen 1861 Dalry James 1864 Dalry Isabella 1866, (Annabella?) Dalry Charles 1869 Dalry Charles' family may have come from England and descendants of Charles (b.1869) most probably in Patna in 1990. I visited Patna and spoke to several Boyce's. Thomas Boyce from Comber to Dalry in 1849 -coincidence? Mary Boyce m. Robert Willie 25/7/1872 Dalrymple, Dalmellington Sarah Boyce m. Thomas Thompson 1876 Dalmellington (which Boyce family were Mary and Sarah from?) 1891 Dalry census: Jane Boyce, 60, seamtress, b. N Ireland (1831?) Mary Patterson, 12, g-daughter, b. Dalry (1879?) Illene please keep in contact- we may be able to tease out a few more details! Regards, David (Presently teaching in Singapore, but returning to NZ to retire in a couple of years) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: nualacockburn Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14419.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: You might have some success using the Argyllshire board. This is specifically for Ayrshire, Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: D_SNOW55 Surnames: Campbell Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14419/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Am researching Duncan Campbell from Argyll Scotland who moved his Family to Australia in c1907 He had 5 children Archiebald ,Duncan, Margaret,Mary and Christina who was 8yrs on the voyage. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ellenadamson1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14416.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Have you looked for the wife Agnes Hodgson ? Ellen Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Hall_Beth Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/1840.1892/mb.ashx Message Board Post: looking for information on Sidney Kerr married Patrick Dempsey Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sarahdobingx3hotmailcouk Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14416.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have actually tried Scotland's people but cannot work out if it the right family, as they are common names at this time in scotland Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ij_gor Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/1897.2.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Appreciate information, on James/ Hugh & Elizabeth and Hugh & Jane, had no information on them when they were still in Ireland. I have only recently joined Ancestry.com my information comes from Scotland's People. I wondered if you had seen Thomas Boyce's baptism information as it shows he was actually born on 12 May 1850 and baptised in 1854 in Dalry. Jane Murray Boyce was born at 7am on 14 Oct 1872 in Smith Street, Dalry John Boyce (whom I am descended from) remarried after Alice Lowe died and had 3 sons with his second wife Christina Keenan Thomas & Jane also had a daughter Elizabeth (possibly named after Elizabeth Hamilton) who was born at 6am on 27 May 1879 in North Street, Dalry Hope this information helpful, thanks again for your imput. Ilene Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Bemidy Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14415.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Happy to do that. I will need to know where to email the kit number to reach you. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.