Marg I have also copied this to the Aus-Military net list You will need to look up the British Commonwealth War Graves website to get James Dobbie's details. I can't recall if that will lead you to the Aust. War Memorial site where you might need to use his service number from the War Graves. This data might give you parents, etc Mike Boyd brisbane -----Original Message----- From: marg o'leary Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 7:23 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [AYR] DOBBIE, DEAN, YOUNG. Hi all, Wonder if anyone can help. I am trying to track the family of James Dobbie who died in WW1, 1916. He was 41 years old, said he came from Glasgow and was a marine fireman before joining the Australian army (AIF)in 1916. I think he had arrived in Sydney abt 1901. Need to find a living relative. He does fit the profile of James DOBBIE born in Kilbirnie, 1875, whose family moved on to Glasgow later. The parents were James Dobbie and Mary Dean, m 1860. grandparents James Dobbie and Mary Young, all around Kilbirnie, Beith and Auchinloch. I have tracked this in Scotland's people and family search. What I cant find is any siblings for James b. 1875, and although his father was one of 8 children, cannot find any of them marrying etc. In other words a bit of a brick wall. What I wonder is if there are any cemetery of other local records that might supply some clues. Hope there are some local experts with some ideas. Thanks heaps. regards Marg Port Stephens NSW [email protected] also [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi all, Wonder if anyone can help. I am trying to track the family of James Dobbie who died in WW1, 1916. He was 41 years old, said he came from Glasgow and was a marine fireman before joining the Australian army (AIF)in 1916. I think he had arrived in Sydney abt 1901. Need to find a living relative. He does fit the profile of James DOBBIE born in Kilbirnie, 1875, whose family moved on to Glasgow later. The parents were James Dobbie and Mary Dean, m 1860. grandparents James Dobbie and Mary Young, all around Kilbirnie, Beith and Auchinloch. I have tracked this in Scotland's people and family search. What I cant find is any siblings for James b. 1875, and although his father was one of 8 children, cannot find any of them marrying etc. In other words a bit of a brick wall. What I wonder is if there are any cemetery of other local records that might supply some clues. Hope there are some local experts with some ideas. Thanks heaps. regards Marg Port Stephens NSW [email protected] also [email protected]

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ellenadamson1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14296.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: B elieve James Allan and Margaret Kelso ended up in Kilbride,Bute. 6 Issue born in North Leith.Jean Allan 3 June 1812 Bute Ellen Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: markallan007 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14296.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Ty so much Meg for your assistance. I have William Allan B 1803 D 1872 not the Birth Certificate but I do have his Baptism Certificate 29/3/1803 O>P>R Births 692/01 0040 0138 saying Lawful son of James Allan Shipmaster in the Parish of Leith North and Margaret S Kelso Birth March 20 baptised March 29th 1803. Williams Death Certificate 1872 Statutory Deaths 615/00 0036 saying William Allan Pauper formally Stoker Collier married to Mary Kelso d March 2nd Quay St Saltcoats aged 72 Parish Stevenston Ayr. Father James Allan Quarryman ( Foreman ) Deceased and mother Margaret Allan ie Margaret S Kelso and the informant William Allan Son Nineyards Street Saltcoats. Mark Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: markallan007 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14296.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Ty Ellen, Everything you have posted is correct except as for Mary Allan Estimated Birth Year: abt 1809, I have nothing listed for that birth year or Mary Kelso was born Stevenston and the father William Kelso and mother: Susanna Mackay. This maybe another interesting twist to the family Tree. I have William Allan born 24 March 1803 d 1872 and Mary Allan ( Kelso ) b 1820 D 1872 and a large array of the Kelso line. Ty so much for the link to Threetowners as almost all my ancestors were from Stevenston and some had died and worked in the Ader factory. I can see I will have a lot of reading to do :) It seems Margaret S Kelso born 1775 is a mystery and married James Allan B 20 April 1770, that elusive Marriage Certificate still awaits. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

Ha, I had to look this one (Dreich) up and it does often apply .... but there is so much beauty in the moors and lochs when the weather turns. Spent many a day with rainproof, hat and boots enjoying Scotland :) Hugh -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 5:18 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AYR] Thankyou This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: paisleyjack1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14380.1 /mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Chris, Thank you for taking the time to seek me out. You deduced correctly, and got the right person! Please accept my apologies for the delay in replying. It was welcome news to hear that the censuses were of some use. Many families are complicated - but I'm very sure you already know that! I had to refresh my memory on TalkingScot about your families. It was around then that I often had to visit The Mitchell, Glasgow to look at original census pages. After starting family history I soon realised that censuses could often be as important as BMDs. And on quite a number of occassions even more so. They've solved many a problem for me... ...created some too, but also leading to previously unkown related families. As with BMDs I don't always take censuses at face value. Understandably some are mistranscribed etc, but I have some that I know were deliberately wrong! Even with mistakes I must admit to having a great fondness for them. Apart from usefulness they also give a nice snapshot of our families over the years. Much obliged to you for writing Chris, and I wish you continued success. Jack - on a rather dreich autumn day in Scotland... Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: paisleyjack1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14380.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Chris, Thank you for taking the time to seek me out. You deduced correctly, and got the right person! Please accept my apologies for the delay in replying. It was welcome news to hear that the censuses were of some use. Many families are complicated - but I'm very sure you already know that! I had to refresh my memory on TalkingScot about your families. It was around then that I often had to visit The Mitchell, Glasgow to look at original census pages. After starting family history I soon realised that censuses could often be as important as BMDs. And on quite a number of occassions even more so. They've solved many a problem for me... ...created some too, but also leading to previously unkown related families. As with BMDs I don't always take censuses at face value. Understandably some are mistranscribed etc, but I have some that I know were deliberately wrong! Even with mistakes I must admit to having a great fondness for them. Apart from usefulness they also give a nice snapshot of our families over the years. Much obliged to you for writing Chris, and I wish you continued success. Jack - on a rather dreich autumn day in Scotland... Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

Hi In the "Statistical Account of Scotland" 1791-1799 for the parish of Currie in Midlothian (this family later moved to Ayrshire) it stated that the annual wage of a person employed at the paper mill was between L 1000 and L 1200 sterling. Would this mean between 1000 shillings and 1200 shillings p.a.? This seems an awful lot of money for the late 1700s. Many thanks for any help. Kerrie Australia

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: rjnm5 Surnames: McWhinnie/Crawford Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/2772.5/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am looking for information on Jane Crawford and William McWhinnie. Thank you Bob M [email protected] Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: marbillion Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/4908.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: William McBride a Master Mariner was born in Irvine and married Annie McBride, they moved to Pirnmill in Arran and built Annefield House to the north of Pirmill. Their first son born William Lamb and changed to William McBride after they married. William married Isobella Martin from Campbelltown and settled in Pirnmill. They built a house called Seahome in the middle of the village. They had I think 3 sons and 2 daughters. Isobella died aged 39 years and William re-married Tina. They in turn had one son, William and one daughter Margaret. William was killed in Holland towards the end of the war (LT in the army). Aunt Margaret died around 2 years ago. My grandmother Annie Lamb McBride was a daughter of William and Isobella, Ella was the other daughter, sons were Angus, Jimmy, ???. My mother is still alive aged 84 years and lives in Saltcoats. I have more info, too much to write about in here. regards, Billy Lamb [email protected] Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ellenadamson1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14296.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: father: William Allan mother: Mary Kelso NameJames AllanGenderMaleChristening Date21 Jun 1840Christening PlaceARDROSSAN,AYR,SCOTLANDBirth Date09 Jun 1840 Depending in which part of Satcoats they stayed ,bapts would i be under Ardrossan or Stevenston 1841 Name: James Allan Age: 1 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840 Gender: Male Where born: Ayrshire, Scotland Civil Parish: Stevenston County: Ayrshire Address: Bradshaw St Parish Number: 615 Household Members: Name Age Wm Allan 25 Mary Allan 20 Mary Allan 4 William Allan 2 James Allan 1 Donald Mcintyre 15 Cathrine Mckinzie 9 Comes under Ardrossan Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lincoln5775 Surnames: CARROLL, FERNBACH, GREEK, HANLON, MALLORY, MURPHY, PARLA, QUINN, SHAW, WATTERSON Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14426.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you for your reply. My Rose Murphy lived on Blair Row. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ij_gor Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/4602.1.1.1.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Ann I am a few year late with this information, but is it possible that your John Archibald was a Robert Archibald, the reason I am asking is as follows. My g g g g grandmother was Margaret Archibald born in Dalry 1820/21, her parents were Robert Archibald and Margaret Kirkwood. What do you think? PS I was born in Beith and live in Dalry. Ilene Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lincoln5775 Surnames: CARROLL, FERNBACH, GREEK, HANLON, MALLORY, MURPHY, PARLA, QUINN, SHAW, WATTERSON Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14426/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Just wanted to put this here in case anyone knows about the baptismal sponsors lsted. Some of the spellings I wasn't sure about (marked with a ?). Also, would I be correct in assuming Blair Row of the 1861 & 1871 Census is the current Blair Road? No. 5 & No. 7 Blair Road are listed historical buildings now. http://hsewsf.sedsh.gov.uk/hslive/hsstart?P_HBNUM=1186 _______________ All baptized at Saint Palladius, Dalry. Parents were Terrance & Susan (Hanlon) Murphy. Entire Murphy (2 parents & 6 children) family went to USA in 1871-1872. MURPHY Bridget - Terrance Murphy & Susan Hanlon are parents - SPONSORS: John Hanlon & Bridget Quinn (Born: 26 Nov 1854; bap 27 Nov 1854) (Bridget married John Fernbach in US) _________ MURPHY Mary - Terrance Murphy & Susan Hanlon are parents - SPONSORS: Patrick Hanlon & Margaret Watterson (?) (Born: 19 Jan 1858; bap 20 Jan 1858) __________ MURPHY Patrick - Terrance Murphy & Susan Hanlon are parents - SPONSORS: Michael Carroll ? & Rose Hanlon (Born: 14 Mar 1860; bap 18 Mar 1860) _________ MURPHY Susanna - Terrance Murphy & Susan Hanlon are parents - SPONSORS: Michael Hanlon & Catherine Mallory (Born: 20 Nov 1862; bap 23 Nov 1862) (Susanna married Louis Greek in the US) _____________ MURPHY Margaret - Terrance & Susan (Catholic register says Judith) are parents - SPONSORS: Peter Hanlon & Rose Hanlon (Born: 16 Mar 1865; bap 19 Mar 1865) ________ MURPHY Rose - Terrance Murphy & Susan Hanlon are parents - SPONSORS: Michael Shaw & Mary Ann ? Parla? (Born: 28 Jan 1869; bap 30 Jan 1869) ________ SPONSORS: John Hanlon Michael Hanlon Patrick Hanlon Peter Hanlon Rose Hanlon Michael Carroll ? Catherine Mallory Mary Ann ? Parla? Bridget Quinn Michael Shaw Margaret Watterson (?) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: markallan007 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/6875.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Lindy, I have sent you an email but unsure if you will receive it. My email address is [email protected] and I may be able to shed a lot of information your way. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: markallan007 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14425/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello everyone, My father Alexander Allan born 11th May 1929 Saltcoats Ayreshire Scotland ( Stevenston ) died 6th June 2012. As I am the only child, I am trying so hard to continue our family History. I have a James Allan Birth 20th April 1770 in Leith, Midlothian, Scotland wife: Margaret S Kelso born 1775. Siblings: Margaret, William, Jean Allan and a Jean Kelso,born Allan. In the Kelso Ancestory, does anyone have a Margaret S Kelso in the family tree ? as Jean Kelso daughter ie Allan, Born 1812 Died 1873 married a James Kelso b 1810 D 1892. No matter how hard I have tried I cannot find a marriage certificate. I know the Parents of James Allan born 1770 were Robert Allan and Elizabeth Thompson. Hoping that someone has further information on James Allan and Margaret Allan Born Kelso. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: hughgemmell Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14424.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: So many Gemmells in Scotland but she is not one of mine. Thanks for asking. Hugh Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Hall_Beth Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14424.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: not that I am aware of yet..still searching out many connections...what are her Kerr & Dempsey connections? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: noreenburniefinch Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14424.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hugh My mother Nora McLaren of Barrassie Poultry Farm, Barrassie, Troon used to talk about her friend May Gemmell. Is May part of your family? Noreen Burnie Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: hughgemmell Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14424.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Have you consulted ScotlandsPeople which contains the official records of the Registrar General of Scotland from 1855 to the present day? - http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk. It's a pay site for usage at 30 credits at a time at a very reasonable cost of 7 Pounds (sterling) but transferable to Dollars of all countries paid by credit card on a secure pay system. 1855 (the first year of compulsory registration) even gives the most complete information of all the years! To quote on SR (Statutory Registration) Marriages: "1855 marriage records give full name, age, marital status, occupation, usual residence, date and place of marriage, name and occupation of father, name and maiden name of mother, names of witnesses and the officiating clergy. They also include the birthplace and number of former marriages of each spouse (plus the number of children by those marriages). Birthplaces and previous marriage details were dropped after 1855, but the former was restored after 1972." What better information can you get than that to start your genealogical search on this couple? Hugh Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.