This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: davidmcmillan99 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14431.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi 51738, thanks for that. yes the info you give on "Ezekiel" is correct. In 1851 he was a Carpet Trader and he disappears thereafter, though interestingly an Ezekiel McMillan, Watchmaker, was named as father on the 1881 marriage record of a Peter McMillan to a Flora McGilvray in Bunessan Mull. This Peter McMillan was born, illegitimately to Jane McMillan, Washer, of 174 Gallowgate, Glasgow on 3rd Sept 1860. No father details given. Jane or Janet's actual surname was McCaffer or McCaffray. My Ezekiel's parents were Alexander McMillan, Carpet Weaver, and Jean Johnston who married in Kilmarnock on 7 Oct 1825. His surname was shown then as Mullen. Alexander McMillan died before 1851 so most frustratingly I cannot establish his parents. George McMillan, a Cartel Weaver, Woollen Weaver was Ezekiel's older brother. He married Catherine Marquise in Kilmarnock in 1857, though was widowed by 1881 and appears in Aberdeen, though goes off the radar thereafter. I had noted Mary Blair who was married to an earlier Ezekiel McMillan, who as you note may have been a brother of my Alexander. Mary McMillan, widow of Ezekiel McMillan, Weaver, died aged 75 at 164 High Street, Ayr, on 25 May 1866. It seems this Ezekiel must have died pre 1855, as again no death record. Appreciated your digging on my behalf. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ianandrosa Surnames: Rodger Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14432/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have found a 1861 Scotland census record for my 3rd Great grandfather and was wondering how I can go about finding more about him. I will be in Scotland in July of 2014 and would like to know how to go about finding out more about him. Thanks Ian Duncan Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: 51738 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14431.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: An Ezekial McMILLAN was born 1838/9 in Kilmarnock to Alexander McMILLAN and Jean JOHNSTON. This Ezekial was a carpet salesman in 1851. See Freecen for Ayrshire 1851 his name on it is EZICHIAL. On the 1841 Freecen Census it is ESEKIEL. Looks like he emigrated after 1860 as no sign of him later and no death in Scotland. He had 10 siblings b 1827-1846 at Park Street, Kilmarnock, where father Alex was a carpet weaver ( b abt 1808 ,died before Apr 1851) .Ezekiel's mother Jean was born about 1806 in Kilmarnock. Alex may be the brother of another Ezekiel born about 1810 who maried Mary BLAIR at Ayr 6th June 1835. On of Ezekiel's brothers George looks like the one in Aberdeen in 1881 a Woollen Weaver born Kilmarnock and a widower. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

Catherine Your Jean Paterson, do you know where she came from? There were Paterson's in Kilmarnock, who I copied on my visit to Kilmarnock last year, as part of them married into a few Boyd families. If you need the reference let me know and I will look up my folders. Mike Boyd Brisbane, Aust -----Original Message----- From: Catherine and Nick Madinaveitia Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 11:51 PM To: Alan Ritchie ; [email protected] Subject: [AYR] McHoull family Hello Alan Thank you for putting me right about the marriage date of james Ritchie and Margaret Highet. That makes a lot more sense. I have quite a bit on the McHOULLs since it's such an unusual name I suppose. Not much about JEAN who married John Ritchie other than her birthdate 7 July 1767 Tarbolton. The marriage (I think you told me this) was in Barclays (farm? Tarbolton?) and you know the names of their children Her father was JOHN McHoull born about 1730 He and his wife whose name I don't yet know had the following children all born in Tarbolton HUGH 10 march 1751 married LILIAS SMITH (6 children one of whom was my ancestor WILLIAM who married JEAN HAMILTON ) and second married MARGARET GUTHRIE (6 children) MARY 31 July 1758 JOHN 9 March 1755 married ANN MAIR or MUIR (6 children) and JEAN REID(3 children) JAMES 22 March 1759 GEORGE 22 March 1761 JANET 3rd April 1763 (AGNES) 10 march 1765 died before 1774 JEAN ## who married Ritchie ELIZABETH 18th May 1769 MARGARET 21 November 1771 AGNES 17 July 1774 who married WILLIAM STRUTHERS and had 2 children My Tree goes back from John McHoull born about 1730 to his father HUGH and wife MARY his grandfather WILLIAM McHOULL and wife JEAN PATERSON his great grandfather GEORGE McHoull and CHRISTINA WALLACE to an unknown great great grandfather with three other children apart from George. I have offspring for quite a few of these McHoulls, and if you would like the full Tree I can send you a Report !!! Best wishes Catherine ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: davidmcmillan99 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14431.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Lois, Yes, the Agnes Johnston Mullen is one of mine. The surname was sometimes given as Mullen on early (pre 1841) records. The Ezekial Killen / McKillen was a good possibility, but he was born in Ireland. I have tried searching all sorts of variations of both surname and forename. Ezekiel itself may point to a Northern Irish descent, as they were given to using such biblical names. I appreciate your interest and assistance. David Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: davidmcmillan99 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14431.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Judy, I have the pre 1855 Gravestone Inscriptions in Kilmarnock & Loudon District. I'm not aware of a post 1855 version or other transcribed records for Kilmarnock. Scottish death records started in 1855 but these do not show anything. Thanks for your interest. David Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

Re  comment  about  Killen's coming/not  coming  from  ireland.  My  5x  great  grannie  had child in  Sorn  to  a  James  Killen from Ireland  1782  from  memory.....folk  came  back  and  forth  for  work  among  other reasons....  Heather  from  sunny Dunedin  New  Zealand

Hello Catherine, I have a Margaret McHoul who married David Reid. They raised a large family in Mauchline. Their daughter Jane Reid married John McKie (my 1st cousin 3 times removed) in about 1863. I don't know anything more about her. It was the unusual name I remembered. Cheers, Mary

Hello Alan Thank you for putting me right about the marriage date of james Ritchie and Margaret Highet. That makes a lot more sense. I have quite a bit on the McHOULLs since it's such an unusual name I suppose. Not much about JEAN who married John Ritchie other than her birthdate 7 July 1767 Tarbolton. The marriage (I think you told me this) was in Barclays (farm? Tarbolton?) and you know the names of their children Her father was JOHN McHoull born about 1730 He and his wife whose name I don't yet know had the following children all born in Tarbolton HUGH 10 march 1751 married LILIAS SMITH (6 children one of whom was my ancestor WILLIAM who married JEAN HAMILTON ) and second married MARGARET GUTHRIE (6 children) MARY 31 July 1758 JOHN 9 March 1755 married ANN MAIR or MUIR (6 children) and JEAN REID(3 children) JAMES 22 March 1759 GEORGE 22 March 1761 JANET 3rd April 1763 (AGNES) 10 march 1765 died before 1774 JEAN ## who married Ritchie ELIZABETH 18th May 1769 MARGARET 21 November 1771 AGNES 17 July 1774 who married WILLIAM STRUTHERS and had 2 children My Tree goes back from John McHoull born about 1730 to his father HUGH and wife MARY his grandfather WILLIAM McHOULL and wife JEAN PATERSON his great grandfather GEORGE McHoull and CHRISTINA WALLACE to an unknown great great grandfather with three other children apart from George. I have offspring for quite a few of these McHoulls, and if you would like the full Tree I can send you a Report !!! Best wishes Catherine

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: LoisCopping Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14431.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello David, This is one example of a family event in the Church of Scotland OPR found online at FamilySearch: Agnes Johnston Mullen, "Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950" Name: Agnes Johnston Mullen Gender: Female Christening Date: 26 Nov 1840 Christening Place: , KILMARNOCK, AYR, SCOTLAND Birth Date: 07 Sep 1840 Birthplace: Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father's Name: Alexander Mullen Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Jean Johnston Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C11597-5 System Origin: Scotland-VR GS Film number: 1041388 Reference ID: 2:16F89JQ More possibilities: Ezekial Mckillin Scotland Census, 1891 birth: 1849 residence: 1891 Bridgeton, Lanarkshire, Scotland Eziekial Killen Scotland Census, 1881 birth: 1844 residence: 1881 St Rollox, Lanarkshire, Scotland Eziekial Killen Scotland Census, 1881 birth: 1844 residence: 1881 St Rollox, Lanarkshire, Scotland I have determined over the years the possibility that surnames of outsiders in a parish were spelt differently than the locals of the same name. Just me............you will know. My paternal lineage from England includes many Ezekiels. My maternal KNOX lineage did not. Hoping this helps you. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

The parents of James Ritchie who married Margaret Highet are I think John Ritchie born about 1751 died 10 July 1826 and Jean McHoull born about 1767 who was the sister of Hugh McHoull born 10 march 1751 who married Lilias Smith born 17 sept 1760. These are my interest but I'm always happy to add twigs. Catherine

You will need to contact the East Ayrshire Local Studies Centre at the Robert Burns Centre in Kilmarnock. They have a list of all the Kilmarnock and other East Ayrshire cemeteries. You can get their Email from the Council website. Mike Boyd Brisbane PS Have you also looked at Scotlandspeople website for him? -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 3:53 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AYR] Ezekiel McMillan born Kilmarnock / Ayrshire c 1838/39 This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: emilyf6 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14431.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My suggestion is to ask for someone who has the Monument Inscriptions booklet/other transcribed records for the tombstones of Kilmarnock. With any luck his father has a tombstone which may say where son Ezekiel died - even if it was not in UK. Surrounding parishes s/be searched as well. regards, Judy in BC Can Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mary Contact the Presbyterian Church at Fenwick. They have a little booklet with the known graves listed. Crofthead is about 3 kms north of Fenwick on the west side of the M77. While High Gainford is on the north side of the B778 road between Fenwich and Stewarton.- about 2 kms Have you been in contact with Alistair Dunlop of Fenwick? He would be able to tell you who is living on these farms to day. He lives across the road from the Fenwick Church. Mike Boyd Brisbane From: Mary Forsyth Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 2:06 AM To: Mike Boyd Subject: Re: [AYR] Gemmill-Young-Wylie Mike A lot of my Young/ Gemmill families were from the Fenwick area, so I must try to find inscriptions in the churchyard there. Some of the farm names were Crofthead, High Gainford & High Todhill. Some of the Youngs were from Western Monkredding (or sometimes called the Reddens), Kilwinning. Thanks for taking the time to get in touch Mike. Mary From: Mike Boyd <[email protected]> To: [email protected]; [email protected] Sent: Sunday, 10 November 2013, 22:55 Subject: Re: [AYR] Gemmill-Young-Wylie Mary I can't recall if your original query on the Gemmill-Yong-Wylie was on these families coming from Fenwick or not. If it is from Fenwick, I recall seeing quite a lot in the Fenwick Churchyard. Mike Boyd Brisbane -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 6:07 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AYR] Gemmill-Young-Wylie This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: auch123 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14399.3.2.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hugh Thank you very much for getting back to me on this line of Young/ Gemmell families. A lot of work still to do, which is what genealogy is all about, but you have certainly added more details for me to get my teeth into. If you are in touch with Don and he ever wants to get in touch could you maybe let him know my e-mail address is:- [email protected] Once again thanks for your time. Mary

I am reposting my interests in the following family hoping that some one can help me with some information. I am looking for WILLIAM McCAW ( father WILLIAM McCAW and mother JEAN FERGUSON who were married at GIRTHON, KIRKCUDBRIGHT on the 23 june 1850).WILLIAM was born on the 28 feb 1853 at BALMAGHIE. WILLIAM,s brothers and sisters that I know off include , MARY b 21 oct 1850 at GIRTHON MARION b 3 jan 1855 at BALMAGHIE WILLIAM married ELIZABETH RITCHIE at KILMARNOCK on the 14 aug 1874 and lived at rhe GARRALLAN SMITHY OLD CUMNOCK as stated in the 1881,1891,CENSUS . Their family that I know about include , JANET McCAW born in 1878 at OLD CUMNOCK (she was still living near GARRALLAN as I have a post card from her dated during the WORLD war 1. JAMES.R.McCAW born around 1881. I pursume that the "R" stands for RITCHIE , but I have no proof. I have a JOHN McCAW (father WILLIAM McCAW and mother ELIZABETH RITCHIE ) found in the LDS born on the 21 apr 1874 which mucks up all my records on WILLIAM if they used the SCOTTISH naming pattern.JOHN,s been born before they married. WILLIAM,s mother JEAN FERGUSON (father WILLIAM FERGUSON and mother MARY KELLY) was born 16 oct 1828 at GIRTHON,and brothers and sisters include WILLIAM FERGUSON b GIRTHON 14 june 1822 JAMES " b " 13 apr 1824 twin ELIZABETH " b " 13 apr 1824 twin PETER " b " 25 may 1826 ** JEAN " b " 16 oct 1828 MARGARET " b " 29 mar 1832 MARY " b " 8 may 1834 IT would be great to hear from researchers that have connections with the above names especially JAMES R McCAW/McCAA,. REGARDS ALAN RITCHIE GORE NEW ZEALAND

Dear People, I am new to the Ayrshire list and I seek your help. I live on a farm property in the Yarra Valley, Vic. Aust. called “Highbow Hill” The property was named by the original settler, John Williamson who named it after a hill near where he lived in Ayrshire before he migrated to Victoria in the mid 1800`s. On the net I found reference to a D. SYMINGTON, Land Steward on Loudoun Estate, Highbow Hil, Newmilns. Is any of the above familiar to any member of the list.? I`m trying to discover the exact location of Highbow Hill and if a hill carrying the name still exists. Norman A. in the Yarra Valley, Victoria.

What a small world this is !! I wondered if I'd ever see this name again. Ezekiel McMillan (surely has to be the same one) unmarried, had a son Peter McMillan to Janet McMillan ( Janet bap 27 May 1838 Kildalton) : - son Peter born 3 Sep 1860 Calton, Glasgow (died 1934 Kilfinichen parish, Mull). Janet's parents Duncan & Charlotte McCaffer/McCaffray both of Kildalton and both died Bunessan, Mull Peter married Flora McGilvray 22 Dec 1881 Bunessan, Mull (my G-grandfather Neil McPherson was miller there at the time). I have 6 children for them. As for Ezekiel ? - alas nothing more Michael www.mullfamilies.co.uk

What a small world this is !! I wondered if I'd ever see this name again. Ezekiel McMillan (surely has to be the same one) unmarried, had a son Peter McMillan to Janet McMillan ( Janet bap 27 May 1838 Kildalton) : - son Peter born 3 Sep 1860 Calton, Glasgow (died 1934 Kilfinichen parish, Mull). Janet's parents Duncan & Charlotte McCaffer/McCaffray both of Kildalton and both died Bunessan, Mull Peter married Flora McGilvray 22 Dec 1881 Bunessan, Mull (my G-grandfather Neil McPherson was miller there at the time). I have 6 children for them. As for Ezekiel ? - alas nothing more Michael www.mullfamilies.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 5:53 PM Subject: Re: [AYR] Ezekiel McMillan born Kilmarnock / Ayrshire c 1838/39 > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: emilyf6 > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14431.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > My suggestion is to ask for someone who has the Monument Inscriptions > booklet/other transcribed records for the tombstones of Kilmarnock. With > any luck his father has a tombstone which may say where son Ezekiel died - > even if it was not in UK. Surrounding parishes s/be searched as well. > regards, Judy in BC Can > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > <br> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: emilyf6 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14431.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My suggestion is to ask for someone who has the Monument Inscriptions booklet/other transcribed records for the tombstones of Kilmarnock. With any luck his father has a tombstone which may say where son Ezekiel died - even if it was not in UK. Surrounding parishes s/be searched as well. regards, Judy in BC Can Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

You can find High Bowhill just north of Newmilns at NS526401 on the Landranger Map of that area. I found it through the maps.nls.uk site, but you can also view it though streetmaps.uk which proves that it still exists. http://maps.nls.uk/geo/find/#zoom=15&lat=55.60745&lon=-4.32665&layers=B000000TFFTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF Jo-Ann On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 6:52 AM, norman A <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear People, > I am new to the Ayrshire list and I seek your help. > I live on a farm property in the Yarra Valley, Vic. Aust. called “Highbow > Hill” > The property was named by the original settler, John Williamson who named > it after a hill near where he lived in Ayrshire before he migrated to > Victoria in the mid 1800`s. > On the net I found reference to a D. SYMINGTON, Land Steward on Loudoun > Estate, Highbow Hil, Newmilns. > Is any of the above familiar to any member of the list.? > I`m trying to discover the exact location of Highbow Hill and if a hill > carrying the name still exists. > Norman A. in the Yarra Valley, Victoria. > >

Mary I can't recall if your original query on the Gemmill-Yong-Wylie was on these families coming from Fenwick or not. If it is from Fenwick, I recall seeing quite a lot in the Fenwick Churchyard. Mike Boyd Brisbane -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 6:07 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AYR] Gemmill-Young-Wylie This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: auch123 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14399.3.2.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hugh Thank you very much for getting back to me on this line of Young/ Gemmell families. A lot of work still to do, which is what genealogy is all about, but you have certainly added more details for me to get my teeth into. If you are in touch with Don and he ever wants to get in touch could you maybe let him know my e-mail address is:- [email protected] Once again thanks for your time. Mary