This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lnordby3826 Surnames: Logan Love Reid Kilpatrick Frew McKean Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14520.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Greetings from Vancouver, I have this family in my LOGAN tree. What I can share with you is John's first wife was Jane Logan Thomson c.1835, daughter of William Thomson and Mary Logan of Stevenston, Ayrshire. I do have the certificate details of her marriage to John Gillan in Irvine on the 15th day of May 1863. (attachment) Father of John is noted as Laurence and mother, Margaret Glancie (it appears to me) The marriage in the Irvine Catholic Church was witnessed by Mary Thomson and William Burke. Two children that I have been able to find, but not followed as of yet. Any info would be appreciated. Margaret Gillian Sept 8 1863 b Dreghorn, Ayrshire and Jane Gillan July 29 1865 b. Auchinleck. Ayrshire. With best regards, Linda Nordby A proud Logan descendant Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jmontgomerie1957 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14515.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Ellie, thanks so much, it never occurred to me Sidehead was the name of a place! I've been Googling Earl of Eglinton but still haven't managed to pinpoint where Sidehead actually was - in fact it seems there are a number of places with this name. On the marriage register it says "both in this parish" so perhaps Sidehead was a small area within Ardrossan? Does it still exist? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Jkmcgillan60 Surnames: McCoubray Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14520/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello I"m looking into the family tree of Gillan also known as Gillen very large family. I'm hitting a brick wall at the minute with info that I have to date. Any Gillan information would be useful to see if there is a connection somewhere. Known family lived in Rutherglen, Cambuslang and Ireland, however some of the family could of emigrated to USA or CANADA too. John Gillan was born approx 1934 in Rutherglen, Glasgow. His parents were Lawrance & Margaret, however I don't seem to be able to find out anything about his father. I think Lawrance also known as Larry may have been born in Ireland but where i don't know. I do know John married Ann McCoubray in Kilmarnock in 1869, however he was deceased at that time. His occupation was a coal miner. Furthermore John was married previously as it states widower on his marriage certificate to Ann but who too? He married Ann on the 10th June 1869, St Joseph's Chapel, Kilmarnock. John was a coal miner and lived in Fife. Ann lived in Irvine Road, Kilmarnock. Her parents were Samuel & Margaret. Any information would be useful and thank you in advance. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Fiona_Bathgate Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14519.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: There may also be some information links here http://www.scotlandsplaces.gov.uk/ Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

I am interested in your Love family...also little family. M in California ----- Original Message ----- From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: <AYRSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 1:57 PM Subject: Re: [AYR] Gillan/Gillen Family > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: lnordby3826 > Surnames: Logan Love Reid Kilpatrick Frew McKean > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14520.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Greetings from Vancouver, > I have this family in my LOGAN tree. What I can share with you is John's > first wife was > > Jane Logan Thomson c.1835, daughter of William Thomson and Mary Logan of > Stevenston, Ayrshire. I do have the certificate details of her marriage > to John Gillan in Irvine on the 15th day of May 1863. (attachment) > Father of John is noted as Laurence and mother, Margaret Glancie (it > appears to me) > The marriage in the Irvine Catholic Church was witnessed by Mary Thomson > and William Burke. > > Two children that I have been able to find, but not followed as of yet. > Any info would be appreciated. > Margaret Gillian Sept 8 1863 b Dreghorn, Ayrshire and > Jane Gillan July 29 1865 b. Auchinleck. Ayrshire. > > With best regards, > Linda Nordby > > A proud Logan descendant > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > <br> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: AdamsonE60 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14515.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Sidehead would be were he stayed. Search Earl of Eglinton. Ellie Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: annstewart42 Surnames: Douglas, Baird, Wallacre Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14209.1.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Reva: We found the connection from your David Douglas & Catherine Baird. A cousin has old letters and they mentioned cousin DW Douglas in Waukon, Iowa and others. Catherine Baird must be the sister to our Sarah Baird who married William Wallace. Email and I can give you more details. My e-mail: annstewart@wildblue.net Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: annstewart42 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14209.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Marc: This is probably connected to our Sarah Baird. It looks like Auchinleck is a hot spot. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jmontgomerie1957 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14515.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Ellie, thanks for taking the trouble to reply. I've already done a google search and couldn't get anywhere with the WayBack Machine. I may post in the Threetowners site, thanks for bringing it to my attention. In the meantime have emailed a question to the local family history society. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: AdamsonE60 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14515.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: http://www.threetowners.com/forum/search.php should find you some help. Post in the Threetowners lounge. Mongomerie's are a well known family of standing in Ayrshire .Also try a google search ,and the Wayback Machine. Ellie Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: AdamsonE60 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14519.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Try Internet Archives(Wayback Machine) Ellie Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

Hi All, I am most appreciative of the interest in my search for the antecedents of Mary Boyd who bore a child [Barbara] by Stewart Murray Fullarton in 1794 (GROS Data 595/00 0020 0062). While I am still hoping to find at least some of the info that I am seeking I will try to cover the several questions that have been raised in your responses. Firstly Mary Boyd and Stewart Murray Fullarton did not marry; I suspect that her social position may not have permitted this. Stewart did acknowledge the child on the Baptism at Irvine as his "Natural Daughter" on 02/10/1794 (GROS Data 595/00 0020 0062), born 01/10/1794 There does seem to have been some longer standing feeling or relationship between these two as I have found the daughter, Barbara, now married to David T. Glover a sea captain, at Stewart's home in High St. Irvine on the 1841 census. The 1851 Census records William Fullarton aged 23 at Barbara's home, he had been listed at his father's home [Stewart] in 1841 as 12 years, his occupation in 1851 was given as "House Proprietor of Irvine Ayrshire" Stewart married Rosetta the apparent daughter of his second cousin, Colonel William Fullarton, on 04/01/1796 and that marriage is registered at both Irvine and Dundonald on that day, GROS Data 590/00 0020 0089 and also 595/0030 0082. Their first female child, born in 1798, was also named Barbara the name of Stewart's mother and also that of the wife of Colonel Fullarton his predecessor as Laird. Mary Boyd appears to have been born C 1774 given the age of 84 stated on her death record in March 1858 (GROS Data 564/02 00521). The informant was a son, James, who stated that Mary's father was a Ropemaker, John Boyd. In August 1803 Mary Boyd married William Roxburgh at Greenock "Old or West" (GROS Data 564/03 0040 0289), there is no reference to the occupations of either's father. During the 1770's there are only 3 recorded births in Ayrshire of a Mary Boyd with a father named John. Of these one has no father's occupation listed, one records the father as a "taylor" [no doubt a tailor], while regarding the third I have requested a Scottish friend to try to discern the minister's writing [GROS Data 602/00 0010 0222], also this baptism took place in 1775 which could fit with the age stated at death. This last record was made at Largs where I would anticipate the trade of Ropemaker would be in demand. So this Mary Boyd is most unlikely to be a high born individual such as the respondents are looking for; however I would very much appreciate any information that may be out there on this family both the Boyds and the Roxburghs. Peter Melbourne Australia

Which says 6. MARY, said to have been married to Sir Alexander Maclean. *8 This Sir Alexander Maclean is a Cadet of the Maclean’s of Argyllshire and I have been trying for several years to find out if he and Mary had any children. I did find out in 2012, on a visit to Fort William, that he was one of King James’s Regiment commander in Ireland in 1689-90, but I have not yet found out what happened to him after 1690 when James was defeated at the Battle of the Boyne. 2) The second point is that – from the dates given – Mary was only 12 years old when she died, so it is very unlikely that if she died about 1677 that she would have been married and had a child at that age 3) Thirdly, the Earl and family appear to have been living at Badenhealth in Dumbatonshire – just west of Cumbernauld – during the 1660’s and 1670’s, as Dean Castle seems to have been used as a Military “Post” during the Covenanter period. 4) Mary Boyd, is one of the most common female Boyd names, so if this Mary Boyd died in about 1677 in KILMARNOCK, it could be that she is from a separate Boyd family. In the 1691 Health Tax list there is more than 30 Boyd families in Kilmarnock. And I expect that nearly every one of these families had a daughter called Mary Boyd. Oh, who do you have as this Mary Boyd’s husband. Mike Boyd From: Deborah Rea Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2014 9:39 PM To: Mike Boyd Cc: Peter STRAUSS ; AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com ; SCT-RENFREW@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AYR] MARY BOYD m 1794 Stewart Murray Fullarton Hello Mike, The Lady Mary Boyd I have was b. 15 Dec. 1665 Kilmarnock and died abt 1677 Kilmarnock. So, would she be a part of the House of Boyd? Lady Mary Boyd 1st cousin 2x removed of husband of 4th great grand aunt Birth 15 December 1665 in Kilmarnock, Ayrshire, Scotland Death 1677 in Kilmarnock, Ayrshire, Scotland I have William Boyd, Fourth Earl of Kilmarnock who was the 2nd great grandfather of wife of 3rd great grand uncle. I suspect that he might need to be moved from his present place on the tree because once these relationships start going out I become worried. I have recently discovered the Boyd-L Archives and am wading my way through all the names. William Boyd Fourth Earl of Kilmarnock 2nd great grandfather of wife of 3rd great grand uncle Birth 12 May 1705 in Dean Castle, Kilmarnock, Ayrshire, Scotland Death 18 August 1746 in Tower Hill, London, England executed for his part in the rising 1745 Regards, Debbie Rea

Debbie 1) I have these Details for Lady Mary Boyd Q2 Lady[1] Mary/Marie[2] Boyd, b / /1665 ( ), C 15/12/1665 (Dumbarton, Kirkintillock Parish, Dumbartonshire)[3], d 17xx ( ), bu , m / /168x ( , ), said to have married Sir Alexander Maclean, son of and (nee ) Maclean, b 16xx ( ), d 17xx ( ), bu , and had issue:- ? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [1]From notes by Robert H. Boyd, 2221 SE Gowin Dr., Port St Lucie, Florida. USA. 34952. based on History of the Boyd Clan and Related Families by Fredrich T. Boyd PhD 1962. [2]Name as listed in the 1994 IGI for the UK - MARIE BOYDE. My understanding is that Mary and Marie were interchangeable names in Scotland at this period. [3]From 1994 IGI for the UK. This is from The Scots Peerage, Vol 5, p 174 whcih says From: Deborah Rea Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2014 9:39 PM To: Mike Boyd Cc: Peter STRAUSS ; AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com ; SCT-RENFREW@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AYR] MARY BOYD m 1794 Stewart Murray Fullarton Hello Mike, The Lady Mary Boyd I have was b. 15 Dec. 1665 Kilmarnock and died abt 1677 Kilmarnock. So, would she be a part of the House of Boyd? Lady Mary Boyd 1st cousin 2x removed of husband of 4th great grand aunt Birth 15 December 1665 in Kilmarnock, Ayrshire, Scotland Death 1677 in Kilmarnock, Ayrshire, Scotland I have William Boyd, Fourth Earl of Kilmarnock who was the 2nd great grandfather of wife of 3rd great grand uncle. I suspect that he might need to be moved from his present place on the tree because once these relationships start going out I become worried. I have recently discovered the Boyd-L Archives and am wading my way through all the names. William Boyd Fourth Earl of Kilmarnock 2nd great grandfather of wife of 3rd great grand uncle Birth 12 May 1705 in Dean Castle, Kilmarnock, Ayrshire, Scotland Death 18 August 1746 in Tower Hill, London, England executed for his part in the rising 1745 Regards, Debbie Rea On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 7:32 AM, Mike Boyd <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> wrote: Deborah I just looked at my 1981 IGI for the Scotland but in the Mary Boyd’s I do not have the page that covers 1802-1822. As the Fullarton’s came from south of Irvine, so this Mary Boyd might have come from – Irvine Dreghorn or even Ayr town In 1794 how old was “Stewart Murray Fullarton”? And was he married or a “young” man. This might determine Mary’s year of birth. If a servant, she could have been a teenager – so born between 1773 or later. I know that the North Ayrshire Local Studies Library has the Old Parish Registers, so they might be able to help find Barbara Fullarton birth entry and to see what Mary Boyd is listed as and if there are any details about Mary’s parents Mike Boyd From: Deborah Rea Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2014 11:19 AM To: Mike Boyd Cc: Peter STRAUSS ; AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com ; SCT-RENFREW@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AYR] MARY BOYD m 794 Stewart Murray Fullarton Mike, Do you have any dates (birth/death) records for this Mary Boyd? Regards, Debbie Rea On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 12:59 AM, Mike Boyd <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> wrote: With Mary Boyd being married in 1794 would mean that she was not part of the Head of Clan Boyd, as the Head of the Clan was executed in 1746 and his son James Boyd in 1758 became the Earl of Errol and changed his name to Hay. In the 1600's you had a number of centres where Boyds lived. - Kilmarnock - Ayr (town) - Irvine - Ardrossan - and around Largs Mike Boyd -----Original Message----- From: Deborah Rea via Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2014 12:23 AM To: Peter STRAUSS Cc: AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com ; SCT-RENFREW@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AYR] MARY BOYD

Thank you Mike - much appreciated! Regards, Debbie On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 9:52 PM, Mike Boyd <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> wrote: > Debbie > > 1) I have these Details for Lady Mary Boyd > > > Q2 Lady[1] Mary/Marie[2] Boyd, b / /1665 ( ), C > 15/12/1665 (Dumbarton, Kirkintillock Parish, Dumbartonshire)[3], d 17xx ( > ), bu , m / /168x ( , ), > said to have married Sir Alexander Maclean, son of and > (nee ) Maclean, b 16xx ( ), d 17xx ( ), > bu , and had issue:- ? > > ------------------------------ > > [1]From notes by Robert H. Boyd, 2221 SE Gowin Dr., Port St Lucie, > Florida. USA. 34952. based on *History of the Boyd Clan and Related > Families *by Fredrich T. Boyd PhD 1962. > > [2]Name as listed in the *1994 IGI for the UK* - MARIE BOYDE. My > understanding is that Mary and Marie were interchangeable names in Scotland > at this period. > > [3]From *1994 IGI for the UK.* > > This is from The Scots Peerage, Vol 5, p 174 whcih says > > > > > *From:* Deborah Rea <deborah.rea94@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Sunday, November 23, 2014 9:39 PM > *To:* Mike Boyd <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> > *Cc:* Peter STRAUSS <p.strauss@iinet.net.au> ; AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com ; > SCT-RENFREW@rootsweb.com > *Subject:* Re: [AYR] MARY BOYD m 1794 Stewart Murray Fullarton > > Hello Mike, > > The Lady Mary Boyd I have was b. 15 Dec. 1665 Kilmarnock and died abt 1677 > Kilmarnock. So, would she be a part of the House of Boyd? > > Lady Mary Boyd 1st cousin 2x removed of husband of 4th great grand aunt > Birth 15 December 1665 in Kilmarnock, Ayrshire, Scotland Death 1677 in > Kilmarnock, Ayrshire, Scotland > I have William Boyd, Fourth Earl of Kilmarnock who was the 2nd great > grandfather of wife of 3rd great grand uncle. I suspect that he might need > to be moved from his present place on the tree because once these > relationships start going out I become worried. I have recently discovered > the Boyd-L Archives and am wading my way through all the names. > > William Boyd Fourth Earl of Kilmarnock 2nd great grandfather of wife of > 3rd great grand uncle Birth 12 May 1705 in Dean Castle, Kilmarnock, > Ayrshire, Scotland Death 18 August 1746 in Tower Hill, London, England > executed for his part in the rising 1745 > Regards, > Debbie Rea > > > On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 7:32 AM, Mike Boyd <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> wrote: > >> Deborah >> I just looked at my 1981 IGI for the Scotland but in the Mary Boyd’s I do >> not have the page that covers 1802-1822. >> >> As the Fullarton’s came from south of Irvine, so this Mary Boyd might >> have come from – Irvine Dreghorn or even Ayr town >> >> In 1794 how old was “Stewart Murray Fullarton”? And was he married or a >> “young” man. This might determine Mary’s year of birth. If a servant, she >> could have been a teenager – so born between 1773 or later. >> >> I know that the North Ayrshire Local Studies Library has the Old Parish >> Registers, so they might be able to help find Barbara Fullarton birth entry >> and to see what Mary Boyd is listed as and if there are any details about >> Mary’s parents >> >> Mike Boyd >> >> *From:* Deborah Rea <deborah.rea94@gmail.com> >> *Sent:* Sunday, November 23, 2014 11:19 AM >> *To:* Mike Boyd <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> >> *Cc:* Peter STRAUSS <p.strauss@iinet.net.au> ; AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com ; >> SCT-RENFREW@rootsweb.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AYR] MARY BOYD m 794 Stewart Murray Fullarton >> >> Mike, >> >> Do you have any dates (birth/death) records for this Mary Boyd? >> >> Regards, >> Debbie Rea >> >> On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 12:59 AM, Mike Boyd <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> >> wrote: >> >>> With Mary Boyd being married in 1794 would mean that she was not part of >>> the Head of Clan Boyd, as the Head of the Clan was executed in 1746 and his >>> son James Boyd in 1758 became the Earl of Errol and changed his name to Hay. >>> >>> In the 1600's you had a number of centres where Boyds lived. >>> >>> - Kilmarnock >>> - Ayr (town) >>> - Irvine >>> - Ardrossan >>> - and around Largs >>> >>> Mike Boyd >>> >>> -----Original Message----- From: Deborah Rea via >>> Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2014 12:23 AM >>> To: Peter STRAUSS >>> Cc: AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com ; SCT-RENFREW@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: Re: [AYR] MARY BOYD >>> >>> >

Hi Johan, I have researched the Fullartons back to Alanus born C 1230. The origins of Rosetta are a mystery, at least as to who her mother was. I am fairly convinced that Colonel William Fullarton of Fullarton was her father, however the first mention I have found of her is in 1794 when she gave Fullarton House as her address when subscribing to A. Guthrie, bookseller of Edinburgh, for Hector MacNiel’s “Scotlands Skaith”. She is referred to in a Deed of Settlement made by Colonel Fullarton and he is referred to on her marriage record as her father. She was interred at Restalrig Church yard in the tomb of Alexander Tait WS, however I have not been able to find details of any inscription that may be attached to Tait’s tomb. A grandson of Stewart Murray Fullarton became Harbour Master of Melbourne and I have found references to other Fullarton descendents in India, Australia and New Zealand. I have found descendents of his liaison with Mary Boyd in Australia and the USA as well as records and graves in New Zealand. Colonel William Fullarton of Fullarton was an extremely intelligent and industrious person, he appears to have had one serious deficiency however, he seems to have been less than careful with who he trusted and employed and how he oversaw his finances. Cheers Peter Melbourne Australia From: J LOCHRIDGE [mailto:j.lochridge@btinternet.com] Sent: Sunday, 23 November 2014 7:28 PM To: Peter STRAUSS; 'Deborah Rea'; sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com Cc: AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com; SCT-RENFREW@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCT-RENFREW] [AYR] MARY BOYD m 794 Stewart Murray Fullarton Peter, You do have an interesting line to research

Ok, so now I have you on my Burns tree. The relationship is out and suspect it's because of not linking people like the Calderwoods or even other Boyds. Ann Boyd had the following sisters: Jane Bryson Boyd b. 1815-1847 Ester 1820-1900 Janet b. 1826 Unknown female b. 1826 Possibly another Janet b. 1829 She also had the following brothers: Robert (no dates) William (no dates) Thomas b. 1828 Mike Boyd wrote about M'Kay's History of Kilmarnock at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/AYRSHIRE/2005-07/1120704055 Lyn Swartz adds her research at http://lrbschwartz.blogspot.co.uk/2012_05_01_archive.html I have searched high and low for this Robert Boyd including non-conformist records and wills/probate. I am wondering if he was b. in Kilmarnock instead - IGI has a Robert b. 20 Oct 1790 however his father is a Thomas. Re your Janet Alexander - were you aware that we also have a Janet Alexander (in fact, we have lots of Alexanders) - it would be interesting to see if they are connected. Regards Debbie On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Bruce Shields <bshields@pwshift.com> wrote: > Regarding my Boyd connection, information is somewhat spare. My > GGrandfather William Shields (born Ayrshire abt. 1816) married in Vermont > Ann Boyd abt. 1845. She was born I think in Kilmarnock 4 May, 1822. She > had two sisters born in Kilmarnock: Jane Bryson Boyd 1 Mar 1815 and Esther > 7 Jan 1820. A 4th sister, Janet was born in Vermont 30 Dec 1826. Their > parents were Robert Boyd and Janet Alexander who married in Kilmarnock 23 > Oct 1812. > > Of this Robert I have very little information. Mrs Cory found his birth > in OPR Irvine 595/2 to Robert Boyd & Isobel Hamilton 19 Oct 1791. The > father Robert’s occupation in OPR is given as “mariner.” Mrs Cory was > unable to verify siblings or further identify the parents. > > Janet Alexander was daughter of Alexander Alexander and Jean Bryson, born > 28 Feb 1787 OPR Kilmarnock 597/3. According to Mrs Cory, the parents were > apparently both born in approximately 1760. > Alexander Alexander was variously described as “wright” or “carpenter.” > They had 11 children from William 2 June 1780 to Mathew 10 Feb 1796. > Near Janet in birth order was Jean Alwxander who married Robert Glass, who > worked in Glasgow. Jean was a twin, born 10 Jun 1791 with brother James. > The Glasses lived in Glasgow, which I know from a letter written 1861 by > Robert (giving his address on Gallowglass St) which arrived in Vermont > following Ann Boyd’s death and was preserved among her papers. > > Richard Boyd, convener of the US based “House of Boyd” society, arranged a > reprint of an optically scanned copy of Archibald M’Kay’s History of > Kilmarnock. Included with that was a family tree of the Earl’s family. > There is no place on the Earl’s tree for my Robert to branch off. M’Kay’s > history shows numerous householders, farmers, and merchants surnamed Boyd, > so I do not expect to find any connection. > > On Nov 23, 2014, at 6:13 AM, Deborah Rea <deborah.rea94@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Peter, > > I would love to have whatever information you have on these Irvine Boyds > as they might be related to my distant Bruce Shields of Vermont and thus to > me. William Boyd, 9th Lord is our 1st great grand uncle of husband of 4th > great grand aunt who would be William Holburn b. 19 Sept. 1763 Titwood, > Kilmaurs who died 21 Dec. 1835 Stewarton. Since I am not yet well-versed > with these Boyds I have no idea if what I have in my tree is correct, so > any information that is well sourced would be greatly appreciated. > > Regards, > Debbie Rea > > On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 3:31 AM, Peter STRAUSS <p.strauss@iinet.net.au> > wrote: > >> Hi Debbie, >> >> >> >> The Mary Boyd who I am seeking information on was born C 1774 [calculated >> from age on death document]. She did not marry Stewart Murray Fullarton >> >> > Bruce P. Shields > 6405 Garfield Rd > Wolcott VT 05680 > (802) 888 5165 > bshields@pwshift.com > >

Peter In Mary Boyd/Roxburgh – I assume there is no mention of her parents name in the death certificate? With the Irvine Church Session minutes, is there any mention of Mary Boyd’s parents or where Mary might have lived? Mike Boyd From: Peter STRAUSS Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2014 1:31 PM To: 'Deborah Rea' Cc: AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com ; SCT-RENFREW@rootsweb.com ; 'Mike Boyd' Subject: RE: [AYR] MARY BOYD m 794 Stewart Murray Fullarton Hi Debbie, The Mary Boyd who I am seeking information on was born C 1774 [calculated from age on death document]. She did not marry Stewart Murray Fullarton Her first child, Barbara Fullarton was born out of wedlock, but acknowledged by Stewart Murray Fullarton, later Laird; she married William Roxburgh in Renfrew in 1803, he was a ships carpenter. They had probably 6 children 4 of who survived into adulthood. She died in 1858 at Renfrew. I suspect that she was possibly a servant in the Fullarton household or perhaps her parents worked on the [Bartonholme] estate. I have not pinpointed a birth document on ScotlandsPeople but do have the birth record for Barbara Fullarton [which includes Stewart Murray Fullarton’s name] she is recorded as a “Natural Daughter”. I have copies of PP 199,200 and 202 of the Irvine Church Session minutes for May, July and October 1774 which records that Mary and Stewart were “...absolved from the scandal of the sin of fornication...” I could send you copies of the documents that I have if you wish. Cheers Peter Melbourne Australia From: Deborah Rea [mailto:deborah.rea94@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, 23 November 2014 12:20 PM To: Mike Boyd Cc: Peter STRAUSS; AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com; SCT-RENFREW@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AYR] MARY BOYD m 794 Stewart Murray Fullarton

Deborah I just looked at my 1981 IGI for the Scotland but in the Mary Boyd’s I do not have the page that covers 1802-1822. As the Fullarton’s came from south of Irvine, so this Mary Boyd might have come from – Irvine Dreghorn or even Ayr town In 1794 how old was “Stewart Murray Fullarton”? And was he married or a “young” man. This might determine Mary’s year of birth. If a servant, she could have been a teenager – so born between 1773 or later. I know that the North Ayrshire Local Studies Library has the Old Parish Registers, so they might be able to help find Barbara Fullarton birth entry and to see what Mary Boyd is listed as and if there are any details about Mary’s parents Mike Boyd From: Deborah Rea Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2014 11:19 AM To: Mike Boyd Cc: Peter STRAUSS ; AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com ; SCT-RENFREW@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AYR] MARY BOYD m 794 Stewart Murray Fullarton Mike, Do you have any dates (birth/death) records for this Mary Boyd? Regards, Debbie Rea On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 12:59 AM, Mike Boyd <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> wrote: With Mary Boyd being married in 1794 would mean that she was not part of the Head of Clan Boyd, as the Head of the Clan was executed in 1746 and his son James Boyd in 1758 became the Earl of Errol and changed his name to Hay. In the 1600's you had a number of centres where Boyds lived. - Kilmarnock - Ayr (town) - Irvine - Ardrossan - and around Largs Mike Boyd -----Original Message----- From: Deborah Rea via Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2014 12:23 AM To: Peter STRAUSS Cc: AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com ; SCT-RENFREW@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AYR] MARY BOYD

Hi Debbie, The Mary Boyd who I am seeking information on was born C 1774 [calculated from age on death document]. She did not marry Stewart Murray Fullarton Her first child, Barbara Fullarton was born out of wedlock, but acknowledged by Stewart Murray Fullarton, later Laird; she married William Roxburgh in Renfrew in 1803, he was a ships carpenter. They had probably 6 children 4 of who survived into adulthood. She died in 1858 at Renfrew. I suspect that she was possibly a servant in the Fullarton household or perhaps her parents worked on the [Bartonholme] estate. I have not pinpointed a birth document on ScotlandsPeople but do have the birth record for Barbara Fullarton [which includes Stewart Murray Fullarton’s name] she is recorded as a “Natural Daughter”. I have copies of PP 199,200 and 202 of the Irvine Church Session minutes for May, July and October 1774 which records that Mary and Stewart were “...absolved from the scandal of the sin of fornication...” I could send you copies of the documents that I have if you wish. Cheers Peter Melbourne Australia From: Deborah Rea [mailto:deborah.rea94@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, 23 November 2014 12:20 PM To: Mike Boyd Cc: Peter STRAUSS; AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com; SCT-RENFREW@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AYR] MARY BOYD m 794 Stewart Murray Fullarton