Lynne It is interesting that there are two generations of Boyd/Finnie marriages. Do you have any data on when Patrick Finnie married Elizabeth Boyd? And how many children they had? And do you have Elizabeth Boyd's date and place of birth and her parents? I have that William Finnie married first to Mary Wilson on 3 November 1736. Thank you Mike Boyd -----Original Message----- From: Lynne Hadley via Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 9:52 PM To: ayrshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [AYR] Robert Finnie & Janet or Jonet Dunlop, Largs. Hi All, I'm researching the Finnie family of Largs (17th-18th Century), and I'd be very interested to hear from anybody who has information relating to this couple. The information I have so far, is: PATRICK FINNIE Pedigree Male Birth: 26 MAR 1701 Christening: 06 APR 1701 Inverkip, Renfrew, Scotland Father: ROBERT FINNIE Family Mother: JONET DUNLOP Janet Finnie (A.K A. Dunlop:) buried 30.12.1730 Largs-Spouse -Robert Patrick Finnie's birth record clearly states that his parents lived in Largs. My 5th grandfather, William Finnie, was said to have moved to Kilmarnock from Constablewood, Largs. He married Ann Boyd in Ardrossan in 1745, but prior to this was married to Mary Wilson in Largs in 1736. Patrick married Elizabeth Boyd and all of their children were born at Constablewood. Cheers, Lynne. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi All, I'm researching the Finnie family of Largs (17th-18th Century), and I'd be very interested to hear from anybody who has information relating to this couple. The information I have so far, is: PATRICK FINNIE Pedigree Male Birth: 26 MAR 1701 Christening: 06 APR 1701 Inverkip, Renfrew, Scotland Father: ROBERT FINNIE Family Mother: JONET DUNLOP Janet Finnie (A.K A. Dunlop:) buried 30.12.1730 Largs-Spouse -Robert Patrick Finnie's birth record clearly states that his parents lived in Largs. My 5th grandfather, William Finnie, was said to have moved to Kilmarnock from Constablewood, Largs. He married Ann Boyd in Ardrossan in 1745, but prior to this was married to Mary Wilson in Largs in 1736. Patrick married Elizabeth Boyd and all of their children were born at Constablewood. Cheers, Lynne. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: gillianpaterson63 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14534/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I hope you don't mind me using this thread to ask for your help. Darlington Church in the centre of Ayr is becoming derelict and needs a new purpose before grants can't be obtained to restore the building. I have an original purpose and need feedback on whether people would use an internal Columbarium, and pay to exhibit memorials to loved ones. With each memorial inscription there would be a link to electronic information about the life of the individual. I am hoping that the Columbarium/Museum would be full of stories about the Sons and Daughters of Ayrshire. Those that were born in Ayrshire that emigrated and vice versus, for those who moved to Ayrshire. I know that I have a collated a lot of information on my family members but have no-where to 'display' it to others. If interested please could you spend less than 5 minutes on a survey. Many thanks. http://www.smartsurvey.co.uk/s/AyrColumbariumProject?x=8 or www.ayrcolumbarium.co.uk Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

Bob Have you asked the North Ayrshire Local Studies Library to look up any of the Stevenston town cemeteries MI's. This was published about 20 years ago and is quite useful to find location of graves along with the inscription if the grave has been damaged. Mike Boyd -----Original Message----- From: Bob Campbell via Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 4:28 AM To: AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AYR] Robert Campbell born Ayr or Glasgow around 1836in1841/1851? Many thanks to both Jo Ann, and Linda Norby for their speedy response. This weekend will attempt to obtain the images of the 1841 and 1851 census to verify the transcriptions, and perhaps the English ones from then on. A couple of questions :- If Ann Munn Campbell baptism was in 1830, then by the 1841 census she should be aged 11 and the eldest daughter, maybe she died or is elsewhere? if there is no record for a 3 year old Marion (twin to Peter?) it maybe that she is Mary Ann and she should be 8? I have a “free weekend” coming up on Findmypast are the Scottish census images available on that website as well as transcripts? I have recently expended some credits on Scotlandspeople for images not just census but also Old Parish register entries on the maybe the wrong family at Loudoun, is this the only source for such images?. If as Jo Ann says “ NAME: Mary Ann Campbell BIRTH: 21 Oct 1833 - Ayrshire, Scotland DEATH: 04 Nov 1896 (4 Nov 1896) - Edinburgh(Midlothian)MARRIAGE: 30 Nov 1852 - Longside, Aberdeen(Aberdeenshire)PARENTS: Robert Campbell, Mary Mayor

Many thanks to both Jo Ann, and Linda Norby for their speedy response. This weekend will attempt to obtain the images of the 1841 and 1851 census to verify the transcriptions, and perhaps the English ones from then on. A couple of questions :- If Ann Munn Campbell baptism was in 1830, then by the 1841 census she should be aged 11 and the eldest daughter, maybe she died or is elsewhere? if there is no record for a 3 year old Marion (twin to Peter?) it maybe that she is Mary Ann and she should be 8? I have a “free weekend” coming up on Findmypast are the Scottish census images available on that website as well as transcripts? I have recently expended some credits on Scotlandspeople for images not just census but also Old Parish register entries on the maybe the wrong family at Loudoun, is this the only source for such images?. If as Jo Ann says “ NAME: Mary Ann Campbell BIRTH: 21 Oct 1833 - Ayrshire, Scotland DEATH: 04 Nov 1896 (4 Nov 1896) - Edinburgh(Midlothian)MARRIAGE: 30 Nov 1852 - Longside, Aberdeen(Aberdeenshire)PARENTS: Robert Campbell, Mary Mayor SPOUSE: William Legg “ then the Mary Ann I found age 17 with James Honderwood as a “visitor” in 1851, could be the same with the “niece” connection to James’ wife Catherine (nee’ MAYOR) , BUT she should just appear as Mary Ann LEGG in later census. Is the Mary Ann aged 37 in 1871 and listed as Peter’s sister, listed as a CAMPBELL or a LEGG? Is Mary Ann LEGG shown in the 1861 census with her husband William? So far I have drawn blanks in verifying Robert’s father was James Campbell a blacksmith, which is only mentioned once on his marriage register entry in Dublin in 1861. His RHA attestation paper may indicate otherwise however prior to 1883 these seem elusive at the TNA in London. I believe that yes indeed the army took in very young boys for example “drummer boys” and the difference in birth year 1796 or 1801 for John Campbell could be explained he lied about his age. Findmypast.com has 5 John Campbells listed in its Waterloo medal roll, one of those may be him. If he is listed with his birth year” and regiment, number etc he may also be on FMP’s regimental service records for army pensioners. The pension records usually list medals received. There is one likely candidate for a John Campbell among 11 born in Scotland in 1796 with the “event” date of 1812 at Barony Glasgow Lanarkshire. “Event” on these records usually meant when enlisted making this particular recruit just 16. Cheers from Bob Campbell From: LINDA NORDBY Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 3:47 PM To: Bob Campbell Cc: AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AYR] Robert Campbell born Ayr or Glasgow around 1836 in1841/1851? Hello Bob, I am just looking through this information and agree that the age discrepancy due to transcription error on Freecen as mentioned by Jo Ann. In any event I do have some early research on this family as I looked at them while looking for my Campbell of Stevenston family. I just did a fast forward on Ancestry and can find them on the 41 as noted but on the 51 Robert, Mary Mayor, son Peter as well as James Donaldson b Ayrshire abt 1831.Mary Ann, Robert Jr and Ann Munn Campbell not at home with the parents but haven't looked for then yet. By 61 Peter Mayor Campbell is lving with his parents in Lancashire with John Donaldson age 4 yrs, nephew. By 71 Mary Mayor is aged 73, her son PeteMayor Campbelll is head of household and sister Mary Ann is living with the family aged 37 yrs Information that I have researched on the family is noted below and Peter Mayor listed on the 1911 England Census as a retired sub editor and registration agent/ Please remember that is was given to me and meant to be a guide to possibly find more answers to queries and hopefully help bring you closer to an answer. Alexander Campbell and Jane Cunningham m Jan 26 1793, Robert b Jan 5 1804 Stevenston and married May Mayor June 6 1830 Stevenston I have a date for John brother to father Robert of 1791 and the following sent to me in 2004. .''I know also from a book written by Peter Mayor CAMPBELL that his father had a brother John, who was a soldier, and I have found from the regimental records that he should have been born in 1796. However according to the parish records he was born 22 Aug 1801 However as he is supposed to have taken part in the Peninsular Wars and been at the Battle of Waterloo, a birth year of 1801 seems a little late - or did they have fourteen year old soldiers in those days? Reference only from John Rouse 2004" Also: .In 1914 in a dedication at the front of his book "Newton in Makerfield, Its History, with some account of its people" John Henry Lane wrote: PETER MAYOR CAMPBELL was born on the 28th May, 1838, "in a house on the south side of the High-street of Stevenston," a village in Ayrshire, and is the younger son of Robert Cunningham Campbell and his wife Mary, the eldest sister of Peter Mayor of Coatbridge. His father was a silk weaver, but on that industry declining, joined his brother-in-law, Peter Mayor, in making tiles to drain the Duke of Portland's estates in Ayrshire. Jon Rouse wrote:Linda Nordby 2000 For example on my wife's side, her grandfather was Robert Frederick Syme CAMPBELL. His mother was Christina SYME, and his father was Peter Mayor Campbell. Peter Mayor's mother was Mary MAYOR, and his father Robert Cunningham CAMPBELL. All the best Linda Nordby -------------------------------- A bit more online research and I MAY have come up with the answer to my question...... By not assuming James was Robert's father, via the IGI I came up with the 1830 marriage for a Robert CAMPBELL and a Mary MAYOR at Stevenston, Ayr. I believe Mary MAYOR was the sister to James HONDERWOOD's 1844 wife Catherine MAYOR. So in that case Robert Campbell 15 in the 1851 census for Lancashire was indeed nephew to Catherine and by extension to James HONDERWOOD also. Interesting it seems the Mary Ann CAMPBELL 17 also listed as a "visitor" was also a niece to the head of the household but possibly not living there. also per IGI Robert CAMPBELL and Mary MAYOR there are these 4 baptisms:- Ann Munn CAMPBELL 1830 Mary Ann in 1833, Robert CAMPBELL in 1836. Peter Mayor CAMPBELL IN 1838 All born at Stevenston, Ayr

Yes, scotlandspeople or an LDS family history center are the only sources for actual images of the Scottish records. You can find a local LDS center via their website at familysearch.org. You would then need to order in (think it costs $6USD each) the films you need and wait for them to be delivered to you local facility. Jo-Ann Croft On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Bob Campbell via <ayrshire@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > I have a "free weekend" coming up on Findmypast are the Scottish census > images available on that website as well as transcripts? I have recently > expended some credits on Scotlandspeople for images not just census but > also Old Parish register entries on the maybe the wrong family at Loudoun, > is this the only source for such images?. >

Hello Bob,, As you will see by the results of the 1871 census two different Mary Anns`. Mary Ann wife of William Legg living in Aberdeen, noted as born Glasgow and Mary Ann Campbell b Oct 21 1833 Stevenston Ayrshire is the sister of Peter Mayor Campbell born Stevenston, May 27 1838. She is noted on the image as unmarried. 1871 Name: Mary Ann Legg Age: 38 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833 Relationship: Wife Spouse's name : William Legg Gender: Female Where born: Glasgow Registration Number: 225 Registration district: New Deer Civil Parish: New Deer County: Aberdeenshire Address: Village Of New Maud Occupation: Slater's Wife ED: 2 Household schedule number: 61 LINE: 2 Roll: CSSCT1871_41 Household Members: Name Age William Legg 44 Mary Ann Legg 38 George Legg 17 Margaret M Legg 11 William R Legg 9 Angus G Legg 7 Mary Agnes Legg 4 Frederick Legg 2 Isabella B Legg 1 Mo Helen Will 18 1871 Name: Mary Anne Campbell Age: 37 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834 Relation: Sister Mother's name: Mary Mayer Campbell Gender: Female Where born: Scotland Civil Parish: Newton in Makerfield Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Warrington Sub-registration district: Newton in Makerfield ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Household schedule number: 25 Piece: 3899 Folio: 101 Page Number: 5 Household Members: Name Age Peter Mayer Campbell 32 Mary Mayer Campbell 73 Mary Anne Campbell 37 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Campbell via" <ayrshire@rootsweb.com> To: AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2015 12:28:55 PM Subject: Re: [AYR] Robert Campbell born Ayr or Glasgow around 1836 in1841/1851? Many thanks to both Jo Ann, and Linda Norby for their speedy response. This weekend will attempt to obtain the images of the 1841 and 1851 census to verify the transcriptions, and perhaps the English ones from then on. A couple of questions :- If Ann Munn Campbell baptism was in 1830, then by the 1841 census she should be aged 11 and the eldest daughter, maybe she died or is elsewhere? if there is no record for a 3 year old Marion (twin to Peter?) it maybe that she is Mary Ann and she should be 8? I have a “free weekend” coming up on Findmypast are the Scottish census images available on that website as well as transcripts? I have recently expended some credits on Scotlandspeople for images not just census but also Old Parish register entries on the maybe the wrong family at Loudoun, is this the only source for such images?. If as Jo Ann says “ NAME: Mary Ann Campbell BIRTH: 21 Oct 1833 - Ayrshire, Scotland DEATH: 04 Nov 1896 (4 Nov 1896) - Edinburgh(Midlothian)MARRIAGE: 30 Nov 1852 - Longside, Aberdeen(Aberdeenshire)PARENTS: Robert Campbell, Mary Mayor SPOUSE: William Legg “ then the Mary Ann I found age 17 with James Honderwood as a “visitor” in 1851, could be the same with the “niece” connection to James’ wife Catherine (nee’ MAYOR) , BUT she should just appear as Mary Ann LEGG in later census. Is the Mary Ann aged 37 in 1871 and listed as Peter’s sister, listed as a CAMPBELL or a LEGG? Is Mary Ann LEGG shown in the 1861 census with her husband William? So far I have drawn blanks in verifying Robert’s father was James Campbell a blacksmith, which is only mentioned once on his marriage register entry in Dublin in 1861. His RHA attestation paper may indicate otherwise however prior to 1883 these seem elusive at the TNA in London. I believe that yes indeed the army took in very young boys for example “drummer boys” and the difference in birth year 1796 or 1801 for John Campbell could be explained he lied about his age. Findmypast.com has 5 John Campbells listed in its Waterloo medal roll, one of those may be him. If he is listed with his birth year” and regiment, number etc he may also be on FMP’s regimental service records for army pensioners. The pension records usually list medals received. There is one likely candidate for a John Campbell among 11 born in Scotland in 1796 with the “event” date of 1812 at Barony Glasgow Lanarkshire. “Event” on these records usually meant when enlisted making this particular recruit just 16. Cheers from Bob Campbell From: LINDA NORDBY Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 3:47 PM To: Bob Campbell Cc: AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AYR] Robert Campbell born Ayr or Glasgow around 1836 in1841/1851? Hello Bob, I am just looking through this information and agree that the age discrepancy due to transcription error on Freecen as mentioned by Jo Ann. In any event I do have some early research on this family as I looked at them while looking for my Campbell of Stevenston family. I just did a fast forward on Ancestry and can find them on the 41 as noted but on the 51 Robert, Mary Mayor, son Peter as well as James Donaldson b Ayrshire abt 1831.Mary Ann, Robert Jr and Ann Munn Campbell not at home with the parents but haven't looked for then yet. By 61 Peter Mayor Campbell is lving with his parents in Lancashire with John Donaldson age 4 yrs, nephew. By 71 Mary Mayor is aged 73, her son PeteMayor Campbelll is head of household and sister Mary Ann is living with the family aged 37 yrs Information that I have researched on the family is noted below and Peter Mayor listed on the 1911 England Census as a retired sub editor and registration agent/ Please remember that is was given to me and meant to be a guide to possibly find more answers to queries and hopefully help bring you closer to an answer. Alexander Campbell and Jane Cunningham m Jan 26 1793, Robert b Jan 5 1804 Stevenston and married May Mayor June 6 1830 Stevenston I have a date for John brother to father Robert of 1791 and the following sent to me in 2004. .''I know also from a book written by Peter Mayor CAMPBELL that his father had a brother John, who was a soldier, and I have found from the regimental records that he should have been born in 1796. However according to the parish records he was born 22 Aug 1801 However as he is supposed to have taken part in the Peninsular Wars and been at the Battle of Waterloo, a birth year of 1801 seems a little late - or did they have fourteen year old soldiers in those days? Reference only from John Rouse 2004" Also: .In 1914 in a dedication at the front of his book "Newton in Makerfield, Its History, with some account of its people" John Henry Lane wrote: PETER MAYOR CAMPBELL was born on the 28th May, 1838, "in a house on the south side of the High-street of Stevenston," a village in Ayrshire, and is the younger son of Robert Cunningham Campbell and his wife Mary, the eldest sister of Peter Mayor of Coatbridge. His father was a silk weaver, but on that industry declining, joined his brother-in-law, Peter Mayor, in making tiles to drain the Duke of Portland's estates in Ayrshire. Jon Rouse wrote:Linda Nordby 2000 For example on my wife's side, her grandfather was Robert Frederick Syme CAMPBELL. His mother was Christina SYME, and his father was Peter Mayor Campbell. Peter Mayor's mother was Mary MAYOR, and his father Robert Cunningham CAMPBELL. All the best Linda Nordby -------------------------------- A bit more online research and I MAY have come up with the answer to my question...... By not assuming James was Robert's father, via the IGI I came up with the 1830 marriage for a Robert CAMPBELL and a Mary MAYOR at Stevenston, Ayr. I believe Mary MAYOR was the sister to James HONDERWOOD's 1844 wife Catherine MAYOR. So in that case Robert Campbell 15 in the 1851 census for Lancashire was indeed nephew to Catherine and by extension to James HONDERWOOD also. Interesting it seems the Mary Ann CAMPBELL 17 also listed as a "visitor" was also a niece to the head of the household but possibly not living there. also per IGI Robert CAMPBELL and Mary MAYOR there are these 4 baptisms:- Ann Munn CAMPBELL 1830 Mary Ann in 1833, Robert CAMPBELL in 1836. Peter Mayor CAMPBELL IN 1838 All born at Stevenston, Ayr ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

A bit more online research and I MAY have come up with the answer to my question...... By not assuming James was Robert's father, via the IGI I came up with the 1830 marriage for a Robert CAMPBELL and a Mary MAYOR at Stevenston, Ayr. I believe Mary MAYOR was the sister to James HONDERWOOD's 1844 wife Catherine MAYOR. So in that case Robert Campbell 15 in the 1851 census for Lancashire was indeed nephew to Catherine and by extension to James HONDERWOOD also. Interesting it seems the Mary Ann CAMPBELL 17 also listed as a "visitor" was also a niece to the head of the household but possibly not living there. also per IGI Robert CAMPBELL and Mary MAYOR there are these 4 baptisms:- Ann Munn CAMPBELL 1830 Mary Ann in 1833, Robert CAMPBELL in 1836. Peter Mayor CAMPBELL IN 1838 All born at Stevenston, Ayr The questions now is are the whole family listed in the Scotland 1841 census and by definition Robert and Mary Ann should both be absent by 1851 if I am on the right track? What is the occupation of the father? Cheers from Bob Campbell -----Original Message----- From: Bob Campbell Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 6:03 AM To: AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com Subject: Robert Campbell born Ayr or Glasgow around 1836 I am searching for the birth record and possible 1841 census entry for this Robert Campbell's family. Robert was born around 1835/36 and joined the RHA as a shoesmith in 1857 On census later he claimed Glasgow as his birthplace but his pension papers say this was in Ayr Connondle in 1835 which may be the army's interpretation for "Colmonell". I believe this is him in the 1861 census........... Robert aged 15 across the border in Lancashire as an apprentice to his uncle James Honderwood a blacksmith. This 1851 census household also has a Mary Ann Campbell "visitor" aged 17 born in Scotland (1834) maybe a clue connection to Robert? James Honderwood's wife from 1851 was a Catherine Mayor they were married in 1844 at Prescott, Lancashire, so no Campbell connection there. per the IGI James Honderwood was born in Ayr in 1815. Perhaps he was married to a Campbell earlier? Robert on his marriage certificate was very specific that his father was James Campbell and his occupation was blacksmith! He also claimed being born in Glasgow in later census, so maybe he was referring to James Honderwood as he knew no better? His original parents maybe both deceased by 1851? Any likely 1841 sightings for Robert aged 5 but missing in Scotland 10 years later for the 1851 census may be him, and obviously the Honderwood family have some connection. Cheers from Bob Campbell in Aus

I am searching for the birth record and possible 1841 census entry for this Robert Campbell's family. Robert was born around 1835/36 and joined the RHA as a shoesmith in 1857 On census later he claimed Glasgow as his birthplace but his pension papers say this was in Ayr Connondle in 1835 which may be the army's interpretation for "Colmonell". I believe this is him in the 1861 census........... Robert aged 15 across the border in Lancashire as an apprentice to his uncle James Honderwood a blacksmith. This 1851 census household also has a Mary Ann Campbell "visitor" aged 17 born in Scotland (1834) maybe a clue connection to Robert? James Honderwood's wife from 1851 was a Catherine Mayor they were married in 1844 at Prescott, Lancashire, so no Campbell connection there. per the IGI James Honderwood was born in Ayr in 1815. Perhaps he was married to a Campbell earlier? Robert on his marriage certificate was very specific that his father was James Campbell and his occupation was blacksmith! He also claimed being born in Glasgow in later census, so maybe he was referring to James Honderwood as he knew no better? His original parents maybe both deceased by 1851? Any likely 1841 sightings for Robert aged 5 but missing in Scotland 10 years later for the 1851 census may be him, and obviously the Honderwood family have some connection. Cheers from Bob Campbell in Aus

Hello Bob, I am just looking through this information and agree that the age discrepancy due to transcription error on Freecen as mentioned by Jo Ann. In any event I do have some early research on this family as I looked at them while looking for my Campbell of Stevenston family. I just did a fast forward on Ancestry and can find them on the 41 as noted but on the 51 Robert, Mary Mayor, son Peter as well as James Donaldson b Ayrshire abt 1831.Mary Ann, Robert Jr and Ann Munn Campbell not at home with the parents but haven't looked for then yet. By 61 Peter Mayor Campbell is lving with his parents in Lancashire with John Donaldson age 4 yrs, nephew. By 71 Mary Mayor is aged 73, her son PeteMayor Campbelll is head of household and sister Mary Ann is living with the family aged 37 yrs In formation that I have researched on the family is noted below and Peter Mayor listed on the 1911 England Census as a retired sub editor and registration agent/ Please remember that is was given to me and meant to be a guide to possibly find more answers to queries and hopefully help bring you closer to an answer. Alexander Campbell and Jane Cunningham m Jan 26 1793, Robert b Jan 5 1804 Stevenston and married May Mayor June 6 1830 Stevenston I have a date for John brother to father Robert of 1791 and the following sent to me in 2004. .'' I know also from a book written by Peter Mayor CAMPBELL that his father had a brother John, who was a soldier, and I have found from the regimental records that he should have been born in 1796. However according to the parish records he was born 22 Aug 1801 However as he is supposed to have taken part in the Peninsular Wars and been at the Battle of Waterloo, a birth year of 1801 seems a little late - or did they have fourteen year old soldiers in those days? Reference only from John Rouse 2004" Also: . In 1914 in a dedication at the front of his book "Newton in Makerfield, Its History, with some account of its people" John Henry Lane wrote: PETER MAYOR CAMPBELL was born on the 28th May, 1838, "in a house on the south side of the High-street of Stevenston," a village in Ayrshire, and is the younger son of Robert Cunningham Campbell and his wife Mary, the eldest sister of Peter Mayor of Coatbridge. His father was a silk weaver, but on that industry declining, joined his brother-in-law, Peter Mayor, in making tiles to drain the Duke of Portland's estates in Ayrshire. Jon Rouse wrote:Linda Nordby 2000 For example on my wife's side, her grandfather was Robert Frederick Syme CAMPBELL. His mother was Christina SYME, and his father was Peter Mayor Campbell. Peter Mayor's mother was Mary MAYOR, and his father Robert Cunningham CAMPBELL. All the best Linda Nordby -------------------------------- A bit more online research and I MAY have come up with the answer to my question...... By not assuming James was Robert's father, via the IGI I came up with the 1830 marriage for a Robert CAMPBELL and a Mary MAYOR at Stevenston, Ayr. I believe Mary MAYOR was the sister to James HONDERWOOD's 1844 wife Catherine MAYOR. So in that case Robert Campbell 15 in the 1851 census for Lancashire was indeed nephew to Catherine and by extension to James HONDERWOOD also. Interesting it seems the Mary Ann CAMPBELL 17 also listed as a "visitor" was also a niece to the head of the household but possibly not living there. also per IGI Robert CAMPBELL and Mary MAYOR there are these 4 baptisms:- Ann Munn CAMPBELL 1830 Mary Ann in 1833, Robert CAMPBELL in 1836. Peter Mayor CAMPBELL IN 1838 All born at Stevenston, Ayr The questions now is are the whole family listed in the Scotland 1841 census and by definition Robert and Mary Ann should both be absent by 1851 if I am on the right track? What is the occupation of the father? Cheers from Bob Campbell -----Original Message----- From: Bob Campbell Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 6:03 AM To: AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com Subject: Robert Campbell born Ayr or Glasgow around 1836 I am searching for the birth record and possible 1841 census entry for this Robert Campbell's family. Robert was born around 1835/36 and joined the RHA as a shoesmith in 1857 On census later he claimed Glasgow as his birthplace but his pension papers say this was in Ayr Connondle in 1835 which may be the army's interpretation for "Colmonell". I believe this is him in the 1861 census........... Robert aged 15 across the border in Lancashire as an apprentice to his uncle James Honderwood a blacksmith. This 1851 census household also has a Mary Ann Campbell "visitor" aged 17 born in Scotland (1834) maybe a clue connection to Robert? James Honderwood's wife from 1851 was a Catherine Mayor they were married in 1844 at Prescott, Lancashire, so no Campbell connection there. per the IGI James Honderwood was born in Ayr in 1815. Perhaps he was married to a Campbell earlier? Robert on his marriage certificate was very specific that his father was James Campbell and his occupation was blacksmith! He also claimed being born in Glasgow in later census, so maybe he was referring to James Honderwood as he knew no better? His original parents maybe both deceased by 1851? Any likely 1841 sightings for Robert aged 5 but missing in Scotland 10 years later for the 1851 census may be him, and obviously the Honderwood family have some connection. Cheers from Bob Campbell in Aus ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This family is most likely the Campbell one found in 1841 Stevenston, Ayrshire consisting of Robt, 38, Cotton Hand Loom Weaver Mary, 40 Robt, 5 Peter, 3 Marion, 3 While Marion's age is off in the transcription (and I do have to say that freecen is very careful with their transcriptions), it could be an error somewhere along the way from original record to enumerator's book becoming changed from an 8 to a 3. A unaccessible tree on ancestry.com has this info for Mary Ann, just the birth for Peter and no info on Robert at all. NAME: Mary Ann Campbell BIRTH: 21 Oct 1833 - Ayrshire, ScotlandDEATH: 04 Nov 1896 (4 Nov 1896) - Edinburgh(Midlothian)MARRIAGE: 30 Nov 1852 - Longside, Aberdeen(Aberdeenshire)PARENTS: Robert Campbell, Mary Mayor SPOUSE: William Legg I believe you can cross this family off your possibility list. Jo-Ann Croft On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 7:49 PM, Bob Campbell via <ayrshire@rootsweb.com> wrote: > A bit more online research and I MAY have come up with the answer to my > question...... > > By not assuming James was Robert's father, via the IGI I came up with the > 1830 marriage for a Robert CAMPBELL and a Mary MAYOR at Stevenston, Ayr. > I believe Mary MAYOR was the sister to James HONDERWOOD's 1844 wife > Catherine MAYOR. > So in that case Robert Campbell 15 in the 1851 census for Lancashire was > indeed nephew to Catherine and by extension to James HONDERWOOD also. > Interesting it seems the Mary Ann CAMPBELL 17 also listed as a "visitor" > was > also a niece to the head of the household but possibly not living there. > also per IGI > Robert CAMPBELL and Mary MAYOR > there are these 4 baptisms:- > Ann Munn CAMPBELL 1830 > Mary Ann in 1833, > Robert CAMPBELL in 1836. > Peter Mayor CAMPBELL IN 1838 > All born at Stevenston, Ayr > > The questions now is are the whole family listed in the Scotland 1841 > census > and by definition Robert and Mary Ann should both be absent by 1851 if I am > on the right track? What is the occupation of the father? > >

James Honderwood might be Robert's uncle via a marriage between James' sister and a Campbell. And Robert's parents don't need to be deceased in 1851. As an apprentice blacksmith he would quite likely live with his master instead of his parents. Perhaps finding information on the Honderwood family will help or tracking down Mary Ann Campbell in another census. Jo-Ann Croft On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Bob Campbell via <ayrshire@rootsweb.com> wrote: > I am searching for the birth record and possible 1841 census entry for this > Robert Campbell's family. > Robert was born around 1835/36 and joined the RHA as a shoesmith in 1857 > On census later he claimed Glasgow as his birthplace but his pension papers > say this was in Ayr Connondle in 1835 which may be the army's > interpretation > for "Colmonell". > I believe this is him in the 1861 census........... > > Robert aged 15 across the border in Lancashire as an > apprentice to his uncle James Honderwood a blacksmith. > This 1851 census household also has a Mary Ann Campbell "visitor" aged 17 > born in Scotland > (1834) maybe a clue connection to Robert? > James Honderwood's wife from 1851 was a Catherine Mayor they were married > in > 1844 at Prescott, Lancashire, so no Campbell connection there. > per the IGI James Honderwood was born in Ayr in 1815. Perhaps he was > married > to a Campbell earlier? > > Robert on his marriage certificate was very specific that his father was > James Campbell and his occupation was blacksmith! He also claimed being > born > in Glasgow in later census, so maybe he was referring to James Honderwood > as > he knew > no better? His original parents maybe both deceased by 1851? > > Any likely 1841 sightings for Robert aged 5 but missing in Scotland 10 > years > later for the 1851 census may be him, and obviously the Honderwood family > have some connection. > > Cheers from > Bob Campbell > in Aus > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jeangourley1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/2057.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Just noticed your message. Barbara McAulay was my g.g.grandfather Alexander McAulay's sister. Some time ago I printed a copy of the 1881 census of Kilmory, Bute and finding a John McCauly age 63yrs and thinking maybe he was also a brother, he was living there as a lodger with the McNeish family. Barbara and Alexander's sister Christina married into the McNeish family, just thinking would John possibly be the earlier relation of your Barbara McMillan McAulay Regards Jean Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dmt2010 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/201.543.603.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, I don't think we have corresponded before but I have not revisited this issue for many years. Do you by any chance have any information of the following Wallace person: Agnes Wallace who married (CharelsTom) CharlesThom 17 July 1751 Coylton, Ayrshire. I currently have a possible Agnes being christened 9 Aug 1727 Fenwick Father: JOHN WALLACE Mother: JANNET SMITH but would appreciate knowing whether you have any Agnes closer to Coylton in your listings born between 1723 and 1728. Their known children Janet, Euphan, Agnes, Archibald, and John do seem to correlate, though on the Thom side, I could not locate a son called Charles. There is an obvious gap between christenings 1758 and 1761. This THOM family may have common ancestry with mine (a John Thom and Mary Reid who married c1754 ) but I have thus far been unable to prove it. Charles's parents were possibly an Archibald (Archbald) Thom and Margaret McCletchie. A farm called Tenshillingland is the link between Archibald(Archbald) and his son Charles. Charles Thom was christened 7th April 1723 Tenshilling Land, Coylton Any comments welcome. Many thanks, Derek Thom Wolverhampton UK P.S The email address doesn't seem to function even with a fullstop instead of a comma. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: messina63 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/201.543.603.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: hi christine my name is colin wallace my family ancestery back to 1249 sir malcom 1st lord eldersile wallace [ 1249 [d 23aug1305 loudoun hill ayrshire i can go back to 1068 sir de wallense [d 1100 if you need any more info on the family contact me my email black pudding37@ hotmail,com aus i live in australia colin hope to hear from you Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

Irene I can't recall any hotel in West Kilbride, but down the hill one or two kms is the Seamill Hotel. Although it might be a little expensive. I am sure that there are B&B's with WEst Kilbride. So you will need to check with either the North Ayrshire council or Scotland Tourist Office in Glasgow. How are you getting to West Kilbride? And where are you coming form and going to? In West Kilbride is Law Castle - now in private hands - where Princes Mary Stewart was said to have been "housed" when she returned to Scotland by her brother King James III - either after her husband, Thomas Boyd, Earl of Arran, died or forced to divorce him. While a few kms west of W K is Portincross Castle which has been partly restored. I think that is now opened to the Public but you willneed to check with the Council on times extra. There is a Montgomery Castle in Ardrossan. Plus the Montgomery County Part at the old Montgomery Castle in Kilwinning - along with the old Abbey at Kilwinning. The town of Saltcoats and Stevenson may also be worth visitng as well. While north you have Largs which is while while spending sometime, as it is the site of the 1263 Battle with the Vikings. I am not sure where the North Ayrshire Local Studies Library is now located after it moved out of Irvine, so ask the Council, as they may also have some information. Mike Boyd -----Original Message----- From: polk via Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2015 6:31 AM To: ayrshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AYR] AYRSHIRE Digest, Vol 10, Issue 41 Hi Mike, Spent my childhood in Geelong, pity it is so far away would love to visit. I would also like a summary of your places to visit and stay in Ayrshire. I’m mostly interested in West Kilbride. So I guess Ardrossan would be best ?? We have talked before on Boyds but I see you have Montgomery in your interests as well, where are they from ? I have Montgomery married into my Gemmell line. Some went to Australia. Irene in Hamilton New Zealand Today's Topics: 1. Geelong Highland Games Sunday 1 March at Deakin University Waurn Ponds campus (Mike Boyd) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- This is to advise those Boyd living in the Geelong and Melbourne areas, I will at the Boyd tent tomorrow, Sunday 1 March. I will be quite happy to talk to about your Boyd family and add it to the 750 Boyd family Chapters that I have already collected or to help you develop your own tree. If you can?t attend, I will be staying at the Comfort Inn Eastern Sands (1 Bellerine Street, Geelong) so I have put aside an hour at 7.30 pm on Sunday 1 March, if anyone wishes to talk to me about their family or visit Scotland. I have been going to Scotland since 2005 nearly every years, so I have built up a little traveling information and where to research, etc, which I am quite happy to pass onto others. For those that have Ayrshire families, the Boyd lived there prior to 1306 and have married into many of the Ayrshire families such as Montgomery, Blair, Kerr, Cunningham, Muir, Campbell, Crawford, Wallace, Kennedy and many other families, so I have some knowledge on these families as well. Mike Boyd Chairman Historical Committee House of Boyd Society Brisbane, Aust. ------------------------------ To contact the AYRSHIRE list administrator, send an email to AYRSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the AYRSHIRE mailing list, send an email to AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of AYRSHIRE Digest, Vol 10, Issue 41 **************************************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message