As administrator of a Lynn DNA project, I'm looking for men named Lynn or some variation thereof (Lyne, Linn, etc.) who believe they had Lynn ancestors in Ayrshire and who would be willing to take a DNA test paid for by certain members of the project. If you or someone you know might be interested, please write to me directly at Lynneage@comcast.net. Thanks very much. Loretta (Lynn) Layman

Hi, I have been working on this line of my family tree for several years, and it is fairly complete ( as far as I want to go), the only thing I do not have is any photo's of the people in my immediate part of the tree, so I am looking for any decendants of Hugh Gemmell Houston, b. 1900 Galston, ( parents - John and Isabella (Wyper). Grace Houston (nee Pollock Wyper ) b. 1905 Galston - Parents Robert Pollock and Maggie ( nee Wyper), that may have any photo's of these people so that we could put some names to faces, also any old photo's of Galston, Henrietta st,Chapel st. Many Thanks, Dawn, Christchurch, New Zealand.

Early this year a kind person form Vancouver, said that she would take me up to Whistler – about 3 hurs form Vancouver. I have just spent he last hour trying to find her message – without success – so could you contact me again please? Thank you Mike Boyd Brisbane, Australia

Many thanks to those who offered help, much appreciated. I took another look on Scotlands People and only entered ’Gem’ for John and up came the marriage. It is very hard to read and Scotlands People are trying to improve the image for me. Thanks again Margaret

Hi Margaret and Jim, Margaret - do you know who Janet's parents were? I have two Janet Tannahills b. January 1700 in Aikenhead, Fenwick, Ayrshire, Scotland and one b. 1734 and lots of Gemmells but if they were your ggparents then these would be too early. My partner in crime researcher cousin Ann Frew Wyllie has often gone to the Dick Instit. and/or the Burns Centre in Kilmarnock and found original documents which are often very different from those either (or not) on line. The Tannahills are in her Frew family. Unfortunately my house phone isn't working and am waiting for an engineer (Tues.) but when the phone is sorted I'll ring her to see what other Janet Tannahills she has. Debbie On 26 July 2015 at 15:37, James Bundy via <ayrshire@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hi Margaret, > I couldn't find that in ancestry. > Jim Bundy > > -----Original Message----- > From: ayrshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ayrshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of ayrshire-request@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2015 12:01 AM > To: ayrshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: AYRSHIRE Digest, Vol 10, Issue 96 > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. John Gemmell and Janet Tannahill (The Pools) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2015 15:30:41 +1200 > From: "The Pools" <p.ml.pool@xtra.co.nz> > Subject: [AYR] John Gemmell and Janet Tannahill > To: "Aryshire roots" <ayrshire@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <05FE5EDA56D04FD5A7BF529E0BD00620@Margaret> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hello > > yesterday I found a marriage for the above couple on a Burns family tree > on > Ancestry dated 5 August 1723 Horsehill, Fenwick. This couple are some of my > great grandparents. > I looked on Scotlands People and Family Search and there is no record of > the > marriage, so I am very interested to know where the details have came from. > Some of their children were born at Horsehill. I am descended from Gemmells > of Horsehill. > > I thought there might be someone on the list who is also descended from > this > couple before I try to track down the Burns family tree, I do not have an > Ancestry subscription at the moment. > > Many thanks > > Margaret > NZ > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the AYRSHIRE list administrator, send an email to > AYRSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the AYRSHIRE mailing list, send an email to > AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. > > > End of AYRSHIRE Digest, Vol 10, Issue 96 > **************************************** > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello yesterday I found a marriage for the above couple on a Burns family tree on Ancestry dated 5 August 1723 Horsehill, Fenwick. This couple are some of my great grandparents. I looked on Scotlands People and Family Search and there is no record of the marriage, so I am very interested to know where the details have came from. Some of their children were born at Horsehill. I am descended from Gemmells of Horsehill. I thought there might be someone on the list who is also descended from this couple before I try to track down the Burns family tree, I do not have an Ancestry subscription at the moment. Many thanks Margaret NZ

Hi Margaret, I saw your posting about John Gemmell and Janet Tannahill. I'm also looking for these names in Fenwick. Your problem of finding "information" on Ancestry and being unable to confirm it through other sources is something I have experienced, too. After 20 years of searching for a marriage record I thought I had struck gold when I saw it on an Ancestry family tree. However, it was not to be found on the Family History database - which I had previously searched many times. I ordered the microfilm of the parish registers and looked for the original record. Yes, someone with the last name I was searching for did marry in that parish in 1795 but his first name was John not George and his wife's name was completely different from the one I was seeking. A detailed search of the rest of the records found no marriage record remotely like the one I sought. How these mistakes occur is puzzling as they are far more than a typing error. Lesson to be learned - double or triple check everything! Try going to www.familysearch.org and select the Family Tree option. Choose Find and enter the information about John Gemmell and Janet Tannahill and their date of marriage. I found a record of them and seven children. On the right of the screen there is a link titled Show All Changes. This will take you to a list of all additions and deletions made to this family tree. Nearly all of them were done by someone named Jamie Scott Kay whose e-mail address will appear when you click on the name. Maybe this person will be able to tell you the source of the information he/she has posted. Good luck with your search. Margaret Canada -----Original Message----- From: ayrshire-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2015 12:00 AM To: ayrshire@rootsweb.com Subject: AYRSHIRE Digest, Vol 10, Issue 96 Today's Topics: 1. John Gemmell and Janet Tannahill (The Pools) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2015 15:30:41 +1200 From: "The Pools" <p.ml.pool@xtra.co.nz> Subject: [AYR] John Gemmell and Janet Tannahill To: "Aryshire roots" <ayrshire@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <05FE5EDA56D04FD5A7BF529E0BD00620@Margaret> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello yesterday I found a marriage for the above couple on a Burns family tree on Ancestry dated 5 August 1723 Horsehill, Fenwick. This couple are some of my great grandparents. I looked on Scotlands People and Family Search and there is no record of the marriage, so I am very interested to know where the details have came from. Some of their children were born at Horsehill. I am descended from Gemmells of Horsehill. I thought there might be someone on the list who is also descended from this couple before I try to track down the Burns family tree, I do not have an Ancestry subscription at the moment. Many thanks Margaret NZ ------------------------------ To contact the AYRSHIRE list administrator, send an email to AYRSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the AYRSHIRE mailing list, send an email to AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of AYRSHIRE Digest, Vol 10, Issue 96 ****************************************

I found a Wilkinson tree with this couple. I asked the tree owner to contact you. I don't know if they actually have a source as they cite unnamed Ancestry trees. Jo-Ann Croft The Pools via <ayrshire@rootsweb.com> wrote: Hello yesterday I found a marriage for the above couple on a Burns family tree on Ancestry dated 5 August 1723 Horsehill, Fenwick. This couple are some of my great grandparents. I looked on Scotlands People and Family Search and there is no record of the marriage, so I am very interested to know where the details have came from. Some of their children were born at Horsehill. I am descended from Gemmells of Horsehill. I thought there might be someone on the list who is also descended from this couple before I try to track down the Burns family tree, I do not have an Ancestry subscription at the moment.

Hi Margaret, I couldn't find that in ancestry. Jim Bundy -----Original Message----- From: ayrshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ayrshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of ayrshire-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2015 12:01 AM To: ayrshire@rootsweb.com Subject: AYRSHIRE Digest, Vol 10, Issue 96 Today's Topics: 1. John Gemmell and Janet Tannahill (The Pools) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2015 15:30:41 +1200 From: "The Pools" <p.ml.pool@xtra.co.nz> Subject: [AYR] John Gemmell and Janet Tannahill To: "Aryshire roots" <ayrshire@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <05FE5EDA56D04FD5A7BF529E0BD00620@Margaret> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello yesterday I found a marriage for the above couple on a Burns family tree on Ancestry dated 5 August 1723 Horsehill, Fenwick. This couple are some of my great grandparents. I looked on Scotlands People and Family Search and there is no record of the marriage, so I am very interested to know where the details have came from. Some of their children were born at Horsehill. I am descended from Gemmells of Horsehill. I thought there might be someone on the list who is also descended from this couple before I try to track down the Burns family tree, I do not have an Ancestry subscription at the moment. Many thanks Margaret NZ ------------------------------ To contact the AYRSHIRE list administrator, send an email to AYRSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the AYRSHIRE mailing list, send an email to AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of AYRSHIRE Digest, Vol 10, Issue 96 ****************************************

Hello I am wanting to get in touch with Ken Cuthbertson from the USA with regards to Dickie research, are you still on the list Ken regards Margaret NZ

Hi Margaret, I am in touch with Ken as well. I have Dickies on my Burns tree. Regards, Debbie Rea On 22 July 2015 at 08:34, The Pools via <ayrshire@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hello > > I am wanting to get in touch with Ken Cuthbertson from the USA with > regards to Dickie research, are you still on the list Ken > > regards > > Margaret > NZ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Greetings Listers I know that the move from the Julian Calendar to the Gregorian Calendar took effect in England on 1 Jan 1752. Was it effective on the same date in Scotland - or did it happen earlier? (I have a bell ringing that it may have been earlier than England, but I can't verify it). Many thanks. Pam Beaudesert, Queensland, Australia --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

What an excellent explanation! Thank you very much, John. Jose Sent from my iPad > On 12 Jul 2015, at 07:57, John Humphrey via <ayrshire@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Hi Pam, > > I apologize for an overkill of detail, but the answer to your question > is a little bit complicated. > > The short answer is that, in most respects, Scotland dropped the Julian > Calendar and adopted the Gregorian Calendar */at exactly the same time > as England/*. But in one small respect it was more than */150 years > ahead/* of England. > > The Julian Calendar (established under Julius Caesar) was slightly out > of whack with the solar calendar. The earth’s orbit around the sun takes > about 365 ¼ days. The Julian Calendar had introduced leap years (every 4 > years) which added one day to the month of February to compensate for > that quarter day. But actually this slightly *_over_*compensated, so > that calendar dates (very) slowly drifted ahead of the seasons. > > To correct this, a calendar adjustment was introduced to Catholic > countries under the papacy of Gregory XIII (“the Gregorian Calendar”), > effective October 1582 .It refined the formula that defined leap years. > Every year that was divisible by*/four/* remained a leap year, /*except > for*//**/ years that were exactly divisible by */one hundred/*. Those > ‘centurial’ years would be treated as leap years only if they were > exactly divisible by */four hundred/*. So 1700, 1800, and 1900 were no > longer treated as leap years, but the year 2000 was. Also, as a one-off > change, to eliminate slippage that had already occurred, the calendar > was moved forward by 10 days. Thursday, 4 October 1582 was followed by > Friday, 15 October 1582 > > Protestant countries did not adopt this change immediately.But in 1752, > both England and Scotland (which by then were joined as the United > Kingdom) did so together. By that time, further time slippage meant that > they had to omit */11/* (not 10) days from their calendar to put the > date back in sync with the seasons (earth’s orbit), and to align it with > that used by most European countries by that time. This change occurred > effective the end of 2 September 1752; the next day became 14 September > 1752. > > The only difference between England and Scotland was in 1599. Until > then, both countries treated March 25 as the start of a new year.The day > after March 24 1500, for example, was March 25 */1501/*. Scotland (which > was then a separate country) decided that it made more sense for the > start of the calendar year to be January 1 (the nativity).So it decreed > that January 1, 1599 (“Old Style”) should be called January 1, */1600/* > (“New Style”), and so on going forward. Overlapping “Old Style” and “New > Style” forms of dating the first three months of the year lasted for > several generations [e.g. "January 27 1731/2", or "March 13 1648/9"]. > > Catholic countries had already changed New year's day to January 1 as > part of the Gregorian reform. England did not catch up with Scotland, > and adopt this “New Style” until 1752. By the way, this change is why > September, October, November and December (named after the Latin for > seven, eight, nine and ten) are actually now the ninth, tenth, eleventh > and twelfth month of our year. > > But, in Scotland (like England), the definition of leap years, and the > 11 days out of synch, remained as per the */Julian /*Calendar until 1752. > > > John > > > > > >> On 7/11/2015 9:43 PM, PMR via wrote: >> Greetings Listers >> >> I know that the move from the Julian Calendar to the Gregorian Calendar took effect in England on 1 Jan 1752. >> >> Was it effective on the same date in Scotland - or did it happen earlier? (I have a bell ringing that it may have been earlier than England, but I can't verify it). >> >> Many thanks. >> >> Pam >> Beaudesert, Queensland, Australia > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Pam, I apologize for an overkill of detail, but the answer to your question is a little bit complicated. The short answer is that, in most respects, Scotland dropped the Julian Calendar and adopted the Gregorian Calendar */at exactly the same time as England/*. But in one small respect it was more than */150 years ahead/* of England. The Julian Calendar (established under Julius Caesar) was slightly out of whack with the solar calendar. The earth’s orbit around the sun takes about 365 ¼ days. The Julian Calendar had introduced leap years (every 4 years) which added one day to the month of February to compensate for that quarter day. But actually this slightly *_over_*compensated, so that calendar dates (very) slowly drifted ahead of the seasons. To correct this, a calendar adjustment was introduced to Catholic countries under the papacy of Gregory XIII (“the Gregorian Calendar”), effective October 1582 .It refined the formula that defined leap years. Every year that was divisible by*/four/* remained a leap year, /*except for*//**/ years that were exactly divisible by */one hundred/*. Those ‘centurial’ years would be treated as leap years only if they were exactly divisible by */four hundred/*. So 1700, 1800, and 1900 were no longer treated as leap years, but the year 2000 was. Also, as a one-off change, to eliminate slippage that had already occurred, the calendar was moved forward by 10 days. Thursday, 4 October 1582 was followed by Friday, 15 October 1582 Protestant countries did not adopt this change immediately.But in 1752, both England and Scotland (which by then were joined as the United Kingdom) did so together. By that time, further time slippage meant that they had to omit */11/* (not 10) days from their calendar to put the date back in sync with the seasons (earth’s orbit), and to align it with that used by most European countries by that time. This change occurred effective the end of 2 September 1752; the next day became 14 September 1752. The only difference between England and Scotland was in 1599. Until then, both countries treated March 25 as the start of a new year.The day after March 24 1500, for example, was March 25 */1501/*. Scotland (which was then a separate country) decided that it made more sense for the start of the calendar year to be January 1 (the nativity).So it decreed that January 1, 1599 (“Old Style”) should be called January 1, */1600/* (“New Style”), and so on going forward. Overlapping “Old Style” and “New Style” forms of dating the first three months of the year lasted for several generations [e.g. "January 27 1731/2", or "March 13 1648/9"]. Catholic countries had already changed New year's day to January 1 as part of the Gregorian reform. England did not catch up with Scotland, and adopt this “New Style” until 1752. By the way, this change is why September, October, November and December (named after the Latin for seven, eight, nine and ten) are actually now the ninth, tenth, eleventh and twelfth month of our year. But, in Scotland (like England), the definition of leap years, and the 11 days out of synch, remained as per the */Julian /*Calendar until 1752. John On 7/11/2015 9:43 PM, PMR via wrote: > Greetings Listers > > I know that the move from the Julian Calendar to the Gregorian Calendar took effect in England on 1 Jan 1752. > > Was it effective on the same date in Scotland - or did it happen earlier? (I have a bell ringing that it may have been earlier than England, but I can't verify it). > > Many thanks. > > Pam > Beaudesert, Queensland, Australia --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Greetings Listers John Borland, sometimes Bordland, (9 x ggf) married Agnes Miller (9 x ggm) in Ochiltree on 3 Oct 1643. They had three known children, all daughters - Bessie (1644), Jean (1646) and Marion (1648). IF they followed the Scottish naming pattern, then John's mother would be Jean and Agnes's mother would be Bessie, but there's no guarantee of that of course. I have no further knowledge of John and Agnes - no baptisms for them, nor burials, nor any other children, nor an occupation for John. I'm descended from Bessie who married John Aird in Ochiltree in 1664. Can anyone give me a direction to find, hopefully, further information on John and Agnes please? Many thanks Pam Beaudesert, Queensland, Australia --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

I ma looking for any info connected to this name. >From the Registers for St Mirins 1815 an entry for John TULEY to Biddy or Bridget DIVAN. I cannot find any more info this couple Did they emmigrate or are there any deaths recorded Have tried under most spellings of this Tuley still come up with nothing If there is a death for this Biddy, I am hoping her father is Dennis or Daniel Thanks Elaine

Hi I have Thomas Fitzsimmons married to Helen Divan 1821 St Mirins Paisley and they seemed to have 10 or more children 1.. Mary was supposed to have married McLaughlin 2.. Daniel married Catherine Currie, don't know if that is correct 3.. Thomas born 1822 4..William 1825 5..Francis or Francy (male) 1827 6.Ann 1830 married John O'Hara 7. Helen 1836 and others My request is who is Helen Fitzsimmons or Fitzsimons parents as I am trying to put the Divan, Diver. Driver, Divine and other spelling Also is there anyone connected to this Fitzsimmons tree Thanks for reading Elaine in Australia

Would there be any kind researcher that would help me with the following query. I am looking for any information on Thomasina McGhie who married William McCaa. William died at sea on the 11th jan 1918 after he had been invalided out of a war zone. Thomasina was recorded as living at 8 Burn St Dalbeattie. Thomasina is also stated as a maid at Garrallan House when she married A census record showing Thomasina and William at Garrallan House would be a fantastic piece of information. All information would be appreciated Regards Alan Ritchie Gore New Zealand

Allan the only way to find that information is to search the census or Valuation Rolls on ScotlandsPeople, especially if the information relates to the early 1900s...unfortunately no freely available info is available for this time period it is all tied up with the GROS. Regards, Jenny -----Original Message----- From: Alan Ritchie via Subject: [AYR] McGhie and McCaa Would there be any kind researcher that would help me with the following query. I am looking for any information on Thomasina McGhie who married William McCaa. William died at sea on the 11th jan 1918 after he had been invalided out of a war zone. Thomasina was recorded as living at 8 Burn St Dalbeattie. Thomasina is also stated as a maid at Garrallan House when she married A census record showing Thomasina and William at Garrallan House would be a fantastic piece of information. All information would be appreciated Regards Alan Ritchie Gore New Zealand --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Cumnock History Group knows a bit about the family. Contact me! Cumnock Connections tree http://cumnockconnections.tribalpages.com <http://cumnockconnections.tribalpages.com/> Cumnock soldiers http://cumnocksoldiers.blogspot.co.uk <http://cumnocksoldiers.blogspot.co.uk/> Cumnock History group http://www.cumnockhistorygroup.org <http://www.cumnockhistorygroup.org/> > On 20 Jun 2015, at 08:00, ayrshire-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. McGhie and McCaa (Alan Ritchie) > 2. Re: McGhie and McCaa (Jennifer Myers) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 16:45:41 +1200 > From: Alan Ritchie <alanr06@clear.net.nz> > Subject: [AYR] McGhie and McCaa > To: ayrshire@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <04AE832E212640089BEA0310BDB702CF@allane05a344d4> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Would there be any kind researcher that would help me with the following query. > I am looking for any information on Thomasina McGhie who married William McCaa. William died at sea on the 11th jan 1918 after he had been invalided out of a war zone. Thomasina was recorded as living at 8 Burn St Dalbeattie. Thomasina is also stated as a maid at Garrallan House when she married > A census record showing Thomasina and William at Garrallan House would be a fantastic piece of information. > All information would be appreciated > Regards Alan Ritchie Gore New Zealand > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 15:06:41 +1000 > From: "Jennifer Myers" <jenm@exemail.com.au> > Subject: Re: [AYR] McGhie and McCaa > To: "Alan Ritchie" <alanr06@clear.net.nz>, <ayrshire@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <84B928A3BDC7416D9D3D8A0D7DD3E65D@JennyPC1> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Allan the only way to find that information is to search the census or > Valuation Rolls on ScotlandsPeople, especially if the information relates to > the early 1900s...unfortunately no freely available info is available for > this time period it is all tied up with the GROS. > > Regards, > Jenny > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alan Ritchie via > Subject: [AYR] McGhie and McCaa > > Would there be any kind researcher that would help me with the following > query. > I am looking for any information on Thomasina McGhie who married William > McCaa. William died at sea on the 11th jan 1918 after he had been invalided > out of a war zone. Thomasina was recorded as living at 8 Burn St Dalbeattie. > Thomasina is also stated as a maid at Garrallan House when she married > A census record showing Thomasina and William at Garrallan House would be > a fantastic piece of information. > All information would be appreciated > Regards Alan Ritchie Gore New Zealand > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the AYRSHIRE list administrator, send an email to > AYRSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the AYRSHIRE mailing list, send an email to AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of AYRSHIRE Digest, Vol 10, Issue 90 > ****************************************