Page 78 1652 obeyed - Andro McClane being delate for insolent carage in tyme of worship on the sabboth day compeired confessing the same & is ordained to acknowledge his sine two several sabboth dayes The qlk day Johne Aird sone to Peter Aird is nominat and chosin ruleing elder for waiting upon the several dyets of the presbetrie until the nixt Synod. Delations Christin Bryson for foron wt James Gemmel. Jonet Johnestone for threshing on the sabboth day. Januar 22 1652 She obeyed - The qlk day Christin Brysone being delate & sumondit for foron wt James Gemmel compeired as also James Gemmel for the same sine compeired & both confessing wer ordained to acknowledge yr sine in the publick place three several lords dayes. The qlk day Janet Johneston for sabboth breking by threshing called not compeiring is ordained to be sumondit pro secundo. Delations Mart Lymburner suspect to be wt chyld Johne Tod for foron wt Mart Wallace Febrii 5 1652 Obeyed - The qlk day Janet Johnestone being delate and sumondit for threshing upon the lords day compeired confessing the same and is ordained to acknowledge her sin in the publick place befoir the congregation Mart Lymburner being delate and sumondit as being wt chyld compeired who after serious examination other did confes she was wt chyld and yt the chyld did belong to Johne Gemmell in templetone it is referred to furder tryal these were ordained to be sumondit

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jaxx10002004 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/13887.1.2.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am also related to Annabella Craig who married James Livingstone. I have her date of birth as 28 September - source was the archive in edinburgh: Annabella Craig daughter of James Craig, Farmer in Rowland (?) and Annabella Richmond spouses was born there the 28th September and baptised the 21st october 1827 parish 584 volume 0020 Craigie Her parents would be my 5th Great Grandparents. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ConradJamesHunter Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/1034.1055/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello, I've been researching our Hunter family since 1972. Five Hunter brothers and their widowed mother immigrated from just outside Londonderry during the 1750s(where their father had been a well-known drapery merchant on the "Bleach-Green Farm." Their paternal grandfather had immigrated to Ulster from the Glasgow area during the plantation. I have worked with genealogists in Londonderry without results. Can you recommend a resource or professional that could help me in Scotlant to help link the family to Ireland and complete the lineage. I would assume that the paternal grandfather would have been in the linen trade as well. Thank you, Conrad Hunter Charlotte, North Carolina Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi Alana, Thanks for your message. That is exciting - so you and I must be either 4th or 5th cousins once removed! Probably 4th. We have to go out shortly but I'll search out more Goldie info later. That solves one problem as someone (in Australia I think) said Ann married Arthur Devlin whereas I had a different husband - so she had two. But it is going to take me a while to find the correspondence. I think James Morton was Ann's first husband? Where did you find Eliza attached to Douglas' name? She appears on all censuses as Douglas and had a sister Elizabeth - my gg-grandmother? I have often puzzled about Douglas name. Did you manage to find any brothers for these four daughters? Ann Andrew's sister Elisabeth married Robert Stewart and their son Robert Reid Stewart married my gg-aunt Janet Templeton. More later. Best wishes, Mary

My Goldies just have to fit in somewhere. Hugh Goldie married Elizabeth Kay 1786 Auchinleck. They had 4 daughters: Douglas (b 1787) married William Andrew about 1814 Jean (b 1789) - I cannot discover what happened to her as there were two or more Jean Goldies. Margaret (b 1804) married William McKie in 1830 Elizabeth (b 1809) married Mungo McKie in 1833 (my gg-grandparents) The last two were brothers marrying sisters. There was also a George Goldie who married Hannah Kay in 1859 and she may have been Elizabeth Kay's sister and he Hugh's brother. With those four girls born 1787, 1789, 1804, 1809 - surely there must have been some boys in between to carry on the name? Still hoping! Mary

Thanks to all who replied on line and off line to this query. Yes It was on my map, but I only looked at Great Cumbrae Island and around - mile or two around Largs. Constablewood was over the page on the next fold. It is between two "old" Boyd estates of Tourgill and Noddsdale, but on the west side of Brisbane Waters. So I assume it was part of the Brisbane family estates. Can anyone confirm this please? Does anyone have access to a copy of Pont, to see if it is an entry there, to see if it gives any family tree data. Thank you Mike Boyd Brisbane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Loretta" <lynneage@h-o-l.com> To: "'Mike Boyd'" <mikejboyd@bigpond.com>; <ayrshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 9:33 PM Subject: RE: [AYR] Constablewood near Largs Mike, go to www.streetmap.co.uk and enter Constablewood. It's on the west side of Noddsdale Water, maybe three or four kilometers north of the town of Largs. Loretta -----Original Message----- From: ayrshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ayrshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mike Boyd Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 10:46 PM To: ayrshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [AYR] Constablewood near Largs Can anyone tell me where "Constablewood near Largs" might be please. This is where the Finnie family of Kilmarnock are said to have come from in the early 1700's. This family became coalmaster. There was mention that some branches of this family were buried in the church at Millport on Great Cumbrae Island which may suggest that Constablewood in on that Island, but I have the Ordnance Survey map for the Firth of Clyde in the Landranger series (1:50,000) but I can't see any name listed that is similar. Thank you Mike Boyd Brisbane ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Mary, Hugh Goldie and Elizabeth Kay are my 4x great grandparents. Their daughter Douglas (actually it is Eliza Douglas) and her husband are my 3x great grandparents. They had at least 2 children that I know of so far, Thomas Andrew b. about 1822 in Auchinleck and Ann Andrew (my 2x great grandmother) b. Feb. 28, 1829 in Auchinleck. Douglas died on April 21, 1861 in Auchinleck and William Andrew died on April 5, 1888 in Auchinleck (he was born in Mauchline about 1794). Their daughter Ann's second husband was Arthur Devlin who she married on Nov. 12, 1858 in Auchinleck. I am descended from Ann and her husband Arthur. Would love to compare more. Alana Farrell Montreal, Quebec ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Paton" <em.paton86@iinet.net.au> To: "Nick & Nancy Wood" <nick.nancy@mweb.co.za>; <ayrshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 10:34 PM Subject: [AYR] GOLDIE > My Goldies just have to fit in somewhere. Hugh Goldie married > Elizabeth Kay 1786 Auchinleck. > > They had 4 daughters: > > Douglas (b 1787) married William Andrew about 1814 > Jean (b 1789) - I cannot discover what happened to her as there were > two or more Jean Goldies. > Margaret (b 1804) married William McKie in 1830 > Elizabeth (b 1809) married Mungo McKie in 1833 (my gg-grandparents) > > The last two were brothers marrying sisters. There was also a George > Goldie who married Hannah Kay in 1859 and she may have been Elizabeth > Kay's sister and he Hugh's brother. > > With those four girls born 1787, 1789, 1804, 1809 - surely there must > have been some boys in between to carry on the name? > > Still hoping! > Mary > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

If anyone connects further information available. No relation to my family. Parish of Old Cumnock James SHANKS age 61 Wife Jane GRAY Father Andrew SHANKS dec'd Mother ---- MUIRHEAD dec'd Regards, Jenny

If anyone connects further information available. No relation to my family. Parish of Old Cumnock John HOWAT age 15 Father John HOWAT Mother Agnes CONNELL REgards Jenny

Mike, I have access to Pont and am sorry to say he does not mention Constablewood or Constable Wood. In George Robertson's "Topographical Description of Ayrshire: More Particularly of Cunninghame" (1820) is a chart entitled "Valued Rents Scots of the Parish of Largs," which includes Nodesdale and, immediately preceding that, Constable Ward, & West Grass Yards. At the time, unfortunately, the proprietors of Constable Ward were the heirs of James Wilson. There is no date attached to the chart, so I assume it is from the period in which the book was published. Going back to Pont, he does say this ... "... 'Yard' appears to be a measure, or quantity of land, in law phrase. It varied however, in different parts of the country, from 15 acres up to as much as 30 or 40. It is of very frequent occurrence in topography in various quarters- in the neighbourhood of Largs, besides this [Annat-Zaird of the Skelmorly Estate], there is 'Grass-yards, Constableyards,' &c." I've checked several similar volumes and found nothing, but there is this tombstone inscription from a rootsweb message: John FINNIE, b 1692, d Apr 1778; Proprietor of Constablewood, Largs Erected by his son, James I know this doesn't exactly answer your questions about Constablewood and the Boyds but thought you might want it anyway. Loretta -----Original Message----- From: ayrshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ayrshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mike Boyd Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 06:36 PM To: Loretta; ayrshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AYR] Constablewood near Largs Thanks to all who replied on line and off line to this query. Yes It was on my map, but I only looked at Great Cumbrae Island and around - mile or two around Largs. Constablewood was over the page on the next fold. It is between two "old" Boyd estates of Tourgill and Noddsdale, but on the west side of Brisbane Waters. So I assume it was part of the Brisbane family estates. Can anyone confirm this please? Does anyone have access to a copy of Pont, to see if it is an entry there, to see if it gives any family tree data. Thank you Mike Boyd Brisbane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Loretta" <lynneage@h-o-l.com> To: "'Mike Boyd'" <mikejboyd@bigpond.com>; <ayrshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 9:33 PM Subject: RE: [AYR] Constablewood near Largs Mike, go to www.streetmap.co.uk and enter Constablewood. It's on the west side of Noddsdale Water, maybe three or four kilometers north of the town of Largs. Loretta -----Original Message----- From: ayrshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ayrshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mike Boyd Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 10:46 PM To: ayrshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [AYR] Constablewood near Largs Can anyone tell me where "Constablewood near Largs" might be please. This is where the Finnie family of Kilmarnock are said to have come from in the early 1700's. This family became coalmaster. There was mention that some branches of this family were buried in the church at Millport on Great Cumbrae Island which may suggest that Constablewood in on that Island, but I have the Ordnance Survey map for the Firth of Clyde in the Landranger series (1:50,000) but I can't see any name listed that is similar. Thank you Mike Boyd Brisbane ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: darlenedoolittle1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/13520.2.2.1.1.4.2.1.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Dear Les I am the daughter of one of Rennies son's who was also named Rennie.I am finding many relatives I never knew I had cheers! Facebook is great. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Jenny, I have a Thomas Goldie b 29 July 1848 in Kilmarnock, son of James Goldie (grain dealer) and Elizabeth Clark. Thomas was one of 9 children (as recorded on my tree) and his older brother John (b. 1836, engine fitter) married one of my ancestors Janet Wood in Kilmarnock in 8 July 1859. Regards, Nick -----Original Message----- From: ayrshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ayrshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Catherine and Nick Madinaveitia Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 12:54 PM To: ayrshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [AYR] Thomas Goldie Hello Jenny, I have the family of James Goldie and Elizabeth Clerk who married 1835 Riccarton ; from the on-line IGI and the 1881 census. One of their sons in Thomas born Kilmarnock 1848. Could he be your man? Catherine > Does anyone have a Thomas GOLDIE b c1840? Occ. Engineer who married 26 Feb > 1862 Ochiltree to Margaret Ann Rorison HILLHOUSE b 28 Mar 1843 Stair, in > their tree? > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: worsley8pq Surnames: lindsay crawford Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/13907/mb.ashx Message Board Post: does anyone have these 2 names in their family. These are my middle names my sister has same and my brother just has Crawford as middle name. I know Lindsay is after my greatgrandmother ADA LINDSAY DAUGHTER OF DAVID LINDSAY both born SHEFFIELD SOUTH YORKSHIRE ENGLAND. DAVIS is son of JOSEPH P LINDSAY FROM COCKPEN SCOTLAND B 1816MARRIED HARRIET STORY in Rotherham 1844. It is the Crawford i am stuck on please can anyone throw light on this .thankyou kind regards Lorian Lindsay Crawford Worsley nee Griffiths Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: worsley8pq Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/1938.2124.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi To anyone with CRAWFORD LINDSAY in their family. I am trying to find out how our family came about these names. My FIRST NAME IS LORIAN WITH MIDDLE NAMES OF LINDSAY CRAWFORD. MY brothers middle name is CRAWFORD and my sister has same 2 middle names we know the Lindsay comes from a Great grandmother b ADA LINDSAY daughter of David Lindsay both born in Sheffield south yorkshire England . David son of Joseph p Lindsay born 1816 COCKPEN SCOTLAND but we dont know where the CRAWFORD comes from Can anyone help with this mystery Joseph paretns were JOHN LINDSAY AND CHRISTIAN WILSON ? kind regards Lorian Lindsay Crawford Worsley nee Griffiths Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I have been given these two statement about the marraige of Ann Boyd and William Finnie:- "William Finnie, Hammerman in Kilmarnock his 2nd marriage and Ann Boyd in the parish of Ardrossan were booked on Saturday April 13th 1745 and consigned eight marks of penalty and after orderly proclamation three several Sabbath days were married at Ardrossan on Tuesday April 30 - 1745 by Mr. Dow Minister there. (Kilmarnock entry) - Frame No 1320 "William Finnie in the Parish of Kilmarnock and Ann Boyd in this parish had given in their names for proclamation in order for marriage this 18th day of April" (Ardrossan entry) - Frame No 267 This would suggest that William and Ann were married in a church in Ardrosson, but does not tell us anything about Ann's parents or where they were living in 1745. While it is known that William was married previously to Mary Wilson on 3 November 1736 and they had three known children. Would anyone have any details on which Boyd family that Ann Boyd of "Ardrossan" might have come from. Mike Boyd Historical Committee, HBS

Can anyone tell me where "Constablewood near Largs" might be please. This is where the Finnie family of Kilmarnock are said to have come from in the early 1700's. This family became coalmaster. There was mention that some branches of this family were buried in the church at Millport on Great Cumbrae Island which may suggest that Constablewood in on that Island, but I have the Ordnance Survey map for the Firth of Clyde in the Landranger series (1:50,000) but I can't see any name listed that is similar. Thank you Mike Boyd Brisbane

This may help you Mike http://www.scotlandsplaces.gov.uk/search_item/index.php?service=RCAHMS&id=207281 Best regards, Linda Nordby ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Boyd <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> Date: Thursday, January 7, 2010 9:46 pm Subject: [AYR] Constablewood near Largs To: ayrshire@rootsweb.com > Can anyone tell me where "Constablewood near Largs" might be > please. This > is where the Finnie family of Kilmarnock are said to have come > from in the > early 1700's. This family became coalmaster. > > There was mention that some branches of this family were buried > in the > church at Millport on Great Cumbrae Island which may suggest > that > Constablewood in on that Island, but I have the Ordnance Survey > map for the > Firth of Clyde in the Landranger series (1:50,000) but I can't > see any name > listed that is similar. > > Thank you > > Mike Boyd > Brisbane > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Jenny, I have the family of James Goldie and Elizabeth Clerk who married 1835 Riccarton ; from the on-line IGI and the 1881 census. One of their sons in Thomas born Kilmarnock 1848. Could he be your man? Catherine > Does anyone have a Thomas GOLDIE b c1840? Occ. Engineer who married 26 Feb > 1862 Ochiltree to Margaret Ann Rorison HILLHOUSE b 28 Mar 1843 Stair, in > their tree? >

Hi Jenny   Agnes Connel (b.1826) was sister to my ggxgrandfather Andrew Connel.  Her son John was born on 6 April 1852, so for once the age is right!   I would be interested in any information you have.   Many thanks. Trish --- On Fri, 1/8/10, Jenny Myers <jenm@exemail.com.au> wrote: From: Jenny Myers <jenm@exemail.com.au> Subject: [AYR] SP Deaths 1867 HOWAT - CONNELL To: AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com Date: Friday, January 8, 2010, 10:58 AM If anyone connects further information available. No relation to my family. Parish of Old Cumnock John HOWAT age 15 Father John HOWAT Mother Agnes CONNELL REgards Jenny ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mike, go to www.streetmap.co.uk and enter Constablewood. It's on the west side of Noddsdale Water, maybe three or four kilometers north of the town of Largs. Loretta -----Original Message----- From: ayrshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ayrshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mike Boyd Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 10:46 PM To: ayrshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [AYR] Constablewood near Largs Can anyone tell me where "Constablewood near Largs" might be please. This is where the Finnie family of Kilmarnock are said to have come from in the early 1700's. This family became coalmaster. There was mention that some branches of this family were buried in the church at Millport on Great Cumbrae Island which may suggest that Constablewood in on that Island, but I have the Ordnance Survey map for the Firth of Clyde in the Landranger series (1:50,000) but I can't see any name listed that is similar. Thank you Mike Boyd Brisbane ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message