This is in the stack of "ToDo" work for me...it was done, but it has lost its contact. I have no one's name to send it to and suspect this list as its an Ayrshire birth.. Hope someone recognized these names : 1855 Births, Kilwinning, entry #202 - Mary KELSO Born Sept 18, 5pm at Greenfoot in Kilwinning, the daughter of David KELSO, Farm labourer aged 25y [born Drumgullan, county Down, Ireland] and Elizabeth KELSO ms BIGHAM, this was her 3rd child, age 21y born Garvaughey? Ireland. Theywed 1850 in Garvaghey Ireland and had 1 boy and 1 girl now living. Informant was the father who made his mark [x]. Registered Sept 26 at Kilwinning. John Service, Registrar. Write if this is yours, I'll send the images [there are 2 for an 1855 Registration]. Meg Greenwood -----------------------------
Hi All, I'm curious what families have "connections" to Robbie Burns? He mentions one of the ministers at Kilmaurs who baptized some of my 4xg-grandparents' children, and the troubled Rev. Boyd of Fenwick as well, who others of my kin had their dealings with.... Ken Cuthbertson
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Heronjds Surnames: Gemmell, Bruce,Morrison, Johnstone Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/1.698.1.2.1.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello Linda, Thanks for your reply and contact. Regarding John Gemmell and Mary Johnstone I have found that a John Gemmell son of William Gemmell a weaver purchased land from William Forbes of Callender (sasine dated 11th July 1804). This land is behind Main Street in Newton on Ayr where Clunes Vennal is situated and Clunes Vennal was called Gemmell's Land in the 1851 or 1861 census where you will find several of our family lived. From this I believe James Gemmell married to Janet Bruce would be the son of John Gemmell and grandson of William Gemmell. John Gemmell died on friday 17th June 1836 of frailty aged 88 (OPRs)he was a Freeman of Newton on Ayr, Mary Johnstone wife of John Gemmell (carter) died on saturday 21st January 1826 at Newton (OPRs). When he married John was recorded as a weaver he must have progressed to a carter at some point and his son James became a fisherman, as a Freeman of Newton John Gemmell would have fishing rights explaining why son James became a fisherman. I am descended from James Gemmell and Janet Bruce their 3rd son James Gemmell who married Flora Morrison are my GGGrandparents, who are you descended from? I have identified 10 children of James and Janet and their families with the exception of Mary Gemmell born on 5th May 1812, could she be your line? Kind regards Bill Heron Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
Ah, it's yourself Jenny! Welcome to the list! Unfortunately I can't help with any of your names, though you've made me think it's about time I posted my Ayrshire names again! Best wishes, Louise
Dear Jenny, I too have an interest in the Mushet family you mention. Agnes Mushet (daughter b 1787 of the William Mushet shoemaker you mention) married Robert Boyle (gardener) in Kilmarnock 1806. Their granddaughter Helen Boyle (daughter of John Boyle, brickmaker) married my great grandfather John Humphrey in 1871. Agnes' brother George, like William, became a shoemaker. Although he's in the 1841 census, unmarried, I've found no trace of him thereafter. I have an additional link through Janet Blair - a daughter b <1810> of Archibald Blair & Henrietta Mushet (b 1792, a daughter of James Mushet and Janet Adam) - who in 1837 married another Boyle, John's brother William, a Kilmarnock quarryman. I wonder if you have any further Boyle or Mushet information? My curiosity was piqued when I found the handwritten 1790 birth certificate of George Mushet among my grandfather's papers, without knowing what family connection there was. Best regards John (in Canada)
Hi Robyn, I have noted your interest in the Blue and Wilson families from West Kilbride. I have gathered a reasonable amount of information on these families which I would be happy to share with you. My ancestor was John WILSON (married to Margaret LINDSAY) brother of Janet WILSON who married Daniel BLUE. Janet WILSON was a cousin of Elizabeth WILSON who married Hugh BLUE. I would be interested in making contact and sharing more details. Regards Alec > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 10:48:21 -0000 > From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [AYR] BLUE FAMILY MEMBERS > To: <AYRSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <1263725302.208223@rootsweb.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: Robyn_Blue > Surnames: Blue > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/3645.1/ mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > I hope to contact you by phone as William Blue has told me about you. > > I can give you the New Zealand information on the descendents of Dugald Blew/Blue and Elizabeth Blew/Blue of West Kilbride. They had 7 children, one of whom was Hugh, who had a son Robert Wilson BLUE who went to the USA (your relation). > > The also had a son Daniel Blue, who is my direct descendent. He had four children, one of whom was John Blue, my great great grandfather who came to NZ in 1863 aged 20. > > Wilson features very strongly in both our families, as the two brothers Daniel and Hugh married a Wilson. Daniel Blue married Janet Wilson (29.22.1839), and Hugh Blue married Elizabeth Wilson (circa 1835). > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. > > > > > > ------------------------------ -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.560 / Virus Database: 270.12.26/2116 - Release Date: 15/05/09 06:16
Dear all, I'm a newcomer to this list, but know that I will recognise some of you from other lists, and from the archives I see names of people I've corresponded with before. I'm Jenny Blain, and my Ayrshire names are Mushet or Muschet, Adam, Hamilton and (possibly going back a good way) Blain and Hannay. My Blains were in Inch parish in Wigtownshire in the late 18th century and possibly a while before that, but may have earlier been around Barr or Barrhead, or may have been closely related to the Blains there. The Mushets in Kilmarnock are descendents of Henry Mushet who came from Perthshire with his wife Janet Denivan, living first in Ochiltree (1735) and then Tarbolton (1738) before coming to Kilmarnock (by 1742). All the later Mushets around Kilmarnock seem to be descended from this couple. James Mushet, nailer, son of Henry and Janet, married Janet Adam by 1772. (They were reprimanded for ante-nuptual fornication.) I think Janet was the daughter of James Adam and Margaret Johnston, born in Kilmarnock in 1747, but don't have further information on her. And finally, I'm descended from John Mushet, nailer, son of James amd Janet, born 1784, who married Jean Hamilton in Kilmarnock in 1802. Their son John Wallace Mushet, b. 1804, later header for Paisley, then Glasgow and later Greenock. Many of the family seem to have been iron-workers - iron moulder, nailer, engine fitter and so on. An exception was William (son of Henry Mushet and Janet Denivan, married Jean Murdoch in 1778) who was a shoemaker. That's enough for now! I've got quite a bit more on these Mushets. What I don't have is about Jean Hamilton and her family, and the parents of Janet Adam. All best, Jenny
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Robyn_Blue Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/3645.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi there That is incredible! I am one the direct descendents of John Blue and have seen that line. My grandfather was Francis Ritchie Blue, son of John Blue. As you know, the Wilsons and Ritchies are all interconnected in West Kilbride, and also in NZ (and now in the US - see below). Where do you live? I live in Wellington, NZ and now that our parents have passed on a group of us are piecing together the puzzle of the family tree. I have made contact wih a guy in the US, John Walsh Blue, 66 years, who is also our relation (no email - but lives in Massachusets) He was doing genealogy 35 years ago when it was all by post. His great great grandfather was Hugh Blue, brother of Daniel Blue. Hugh Blue married Elizabeth Hannah Wilson, a SISTER to Janet Wilson [so we are doubly connected and related]. They had Robert Wilson Blue who went to USA in 1863, the same year as John Blue came to NZ. Robert Wilson Blue is his grandfather. Please email me and I can give further contact detail! s. He would love to hear from you. r.blue@paradise.net.nz. Regards Robyn Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lunrau119 Surnames: Gemmell Bruce Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/1.698.1.2.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: It has been a while Bill. I would love to hear what new info you have found. regards...Linda Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cjgilbert Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/3645.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello Robyn I am also a direct descendant of Dougal BLUE & Elizabeth MONTGOMERY. My mother (born in West Kilbride) was the gt gr dau of Daniel BLUE & Janet WILSON through their dau Ann Ritchie BLUE. My mother's family came to NZ when she was a young child and initially stayed with family in Southland. Carol Gilbert Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Heronjds Surnames: Gemmell, Bruce Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/1.698.1.2.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello Linda, Just trying to make contact again. I have gained more information regarding the Gemmell and Bruce families since our last contact in 2006. Hoping you are still working with Ancestry.com Regards Bill Heron Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: modernmen Surnames: Sweaton, Docherty Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/13580.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi I know it's been a long time since your query on this post but I would be interested on any history involving the sweaton family Regards, Craig Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: 51738 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/13916.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, This family is named MCMURRAY on the 1841 Census and the tree is like this. Regards Charles ----------------- Descendants of Gordon McMURRAY Generation No. 1 1. Gordon1 McMURRAY was born 1808 in Sanquhar, Dumfries, Scotland Re 1841 / 1851 Census. He married Anne DEMPSTER. She was born 1808 in Durisdeer, Dumfries, Scotland. More About Gordon McMURRAY: Occupation 1: Apr 1851, Miner at Bones' Row, Carsphairn, Kirkcudbright Occupation 2: Jun 1841, Agric lab at Newtown of Sanquhar, Sanquhar, Dumfries Children of Gordon McMURRAY and Anne DEMPSTER are: 2 i. Agnes2 McMURRAY, born 02 Oct 1826 in Durisdeer, Dumfries, Scotland. 3 ii. James MURRAY, born 1827 in Durisdeer, Dumfries, Scotland. 4 iii. Janet McMURRAY, born 22 Mar 1828 in Durisdeer, Dumfries, Scotland; died Bef. 1836. 5 iv. Robert MURRAY, born 28 Feb 1830 in Durisdeer, Dumfries, Scotland. 6 v. Grace MURRAY, born 1831 in Penpont, Dumfries, Scotland. 7 vi. Janet MURRAY, born 1836 in Sanquhar, Dumfries, Scotland. 8 vii. Gordon MURRAY, born 1838 in Penpont, Dumfries, Scotland. 9 viii. Alexander MURRAY, born 1843 in Wanlockhead, Dumfries, Scotland Re 1881 Census. 10 ix. John MURRAY, born 30 May 1844 in Carsphairn, Kirkcudbright, Scotland. 11 x. Thomas MURRAY, born 30 Sep 1845 in Carsphairn, Kirkcudbright, Scotland. 12 xi. William MURRAY, born 18 May 1847 in Carsphairn, Kirkcudbright, Scotland. Generation No. 2 3. James2 MURRAY (Gordon1 McMURRAY) was born 1827 in Durisdeer, Dumfries, Scotland. He married Ann FERGUSON. She was born Abt. 1831. Child of James MURRAY and Ann FERGUSON is: 13 i. Gordon3 MURRAY, born 29 Apr 1853 in Carsphairn, Kirkcudbright, Scotland. 9. Alexander2 MURRAY (Gordon1 McMURRAY) was born 1843 in Wanlockhead, Dumfries, Scotland Re 1881 Census. He married Mary Beattie NIELSON 17 Aug 1866 in Crawford, Lanark, Scotland. She was born 1843 in Carsphairn, Kirkcudbright, Scotland. More About Alexander MURRAY and Mary NIELSON: Marriage: 17 Aug 1866, Crawford, Lanark, Scotland Children of Alexander MURRAY and Mary NIELSON are: 14 i. John3 MURRAY, born 05 Sep 1866 in Leadhills, Lanark, Scotland; died Bef. 1867. 15 ii. Thomas Neilson MURRAY, born 03 Nov 1867 in Leadhills, Lanark, Scotland Re 1881 Census. 16 iii. Sarah MURRAY, born 08 Sep 1869 in Leadhills, Lanark, Scotland Re 1881 Census. She married Alexander STEWART 24 Dec 1886 in Leadhills, Lanark, Scotland; born 1863 in Leadhills, Lanark, Scotland Re 1881 Census. More About Alexander STEWART and Sarah MURRAY: Marriage: 24 Dec 1886, Leadhills, Lanark, Scotland 17 iv. John MURRAY, born 30 Jul 1871 in Leadhills, Lanark, Scotland; died Bef. Apr 1881. 18 v. Richard MURRAY, born 1873 in Leadhills, Lanark, Scotland Re 1881 Census. 19 vi. James MURRAY, born 1876 in Leadhills, Lanark, Scotland Re 1881 Census. 20 vii. Alexander MURRAY, born Abt. Sep 1880 in Leadhills, Lanark, Scotland Re 1881 Census. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ChrisGoldstraw77 Surnames: Campbell Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/13914.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, I don't think I have any David's in my line. They are mainly Matthew,John, William,George from abt 1750.The girls are Nargaret,Ann,Marion,Agnes. I have Muir's tied in there too. Cheers Chris Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: gwing_1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/13916.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I agree with what you found. The problem came from family papers that were handwritten and handed down. The paper said Gordon Murray was born, raised and wed in Ayrshire. I too could find no record of him there. Thank you for your help. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jonndean Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/13916.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello Kim, First i dont see where get your information that Gordon Murray, was born in Ayrshire. you also state you saw the 1851. census, this census should state where he was born. The 1851. census that i see the family on is Carsphairn, Kirkcudbright, ie. Gordon Murray, Arg Laboure, M. age 41 years,M. born Sanquhar, Dumfries, Anne Murray, Wife, F. age 42 years, M. born Durrisdeer, Dumfries, Agnes Murray, Dau, F. age 24 years, U. born Durrisdeer, Dumfries, James Murray, son, M. age 23 years, U. born Carspharin, Dumfries, Robert Murray, son, M. age 21 years, U. born Durrisdeer, Dumfries, Grace Murray, Daur, F. age 19 years, born Penpont, Dumfries, Gordon Murray, son, M. age 12 years, born Penpont, Dumfries, Alexander Murray, son M. age 8 years, born Sanquhar, Dumfries, John Murray, son, M. age 6 years, born Durrisdeer, Dumfries, William Murray, son, M. age 3 years, born, Carspharin, Kirkcudbright. There are only three births registered to this couple, ie Agnes Murray, 2/Oct/1826, Durisdeer, Dumfries, Robert Murray, 28/Feb/1830, Durisdeer, Dumfries, William Murray, 25/June/1847, Carsphairn. All to parents Gordon Murray, and Ann Dempster. These three births date, places,fit perfect with three of the children in above census. Agnes, being the oldest, and William, the youngest, then Ann Dempster, is Gordon Murray's, partner from at least 1826. until 1851, and most certainly the mother of all the children on the census. However as happened in Scotland, prior to 1855. when compulsary registration of Births, Marriages, and Deaths, occured, it was not compulsary to register these events prior to 1855. I can find no marriage in Scotland, for Gordon, and Ann Dempster, thats not to say it did not occur,lots of old documents did not survive the ravages of time, the same applies to the births of the other children. Regards, Jonn. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: daxman51 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/13914.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Chris:The info I have on James Campbell b. 1798 is as far back as I can get. However, the Scottish naming patterns "might " point to his father's name being "David Campbell" or even "Noble Campbell" (The first son that I have record of was David Noble Campbell b.1833). Thanks for your prompt response !!! Dave. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: gwing_1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/13916.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: That I don't know. I was told Gordon Murray emigrated America through Canada and then to the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
----- Original Message ----- From: "The Pools" <p.ml.pool@xtra.co.nz> To: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 8:37 AM Subject: Re: [AYR] Kilmarnock Campbells ???? > Hi Dave, > yes you do have access to kilmarnock records through Scotlands People web > site. www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk there you can look for a baptism record > for James. It is a pay site but not expensive £6 for 30 credits. > I see the marriage records for James and Mary Jane were on the IGI, you > need to look at the original souce of this information and it may tell you > what parish James was from. The date given could be the marriage date or > the dates the banns were called. > > Hope this helps > Margaret > NZ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> > To: <AYRSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 5:00 AM > Subject: [AYR] Kilmarnock Campbells ???? > > >> This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. >> >> Author: daxman51 >> Surnames: Campbell, Hyndman >> Classification: queries >> >> Message Board URL: >> >> http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/13914/mb.ashx >> >> Message Board Post: >> >> My g.g.grandfather James Campbell b. 1798 is said to be from Kilmarnock >> but I can't find documentation to point to this.He married Mary Jane >> Hyndman (Hindman)on May 1 , 1829 and they were registered in both >> Tolbooth Kirk, Edinburgh and Kilmarnock. They had sons David Noble b. >> 1833 (Dalkeith)and James dob. July 12, 1838 (Edinburgh). By 1842-44 they >> had all emigrated to Cumberland County, Nova Scotia, Canada. I live in >> Canada and don't have access to Kilmarnock records --could any one in >> that area do a look up for me and try to find a birth record of my elder >> James Campbell? Thank you so very much . Dave Campbell. >> >> Important Note: >> The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you >> would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link >> above and respond on the board. >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JanetDishon Surnames: Weir, Gibson, McKindlay Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/13917/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Does anyone have any information on these two sisters? They were the children of Robert and Ann McKindlay Weir.There were 3 other sisters Marion,Lillian,and Margaret. Thanks. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.