Hi Stewart, I cannot see a connection but then I don't know how many children Robert and Marion had. My line comes from their son John born c. 1772 in Sanquhar, Dumfriesshire. He married Grace/Grizzel Hainen (don't know her birth place) and only have info on one of their children son John Kerr born 1795 c. Sanquhar, Dumfriesshire. John married Mary MacNeil from Dumfriesshire. Johns children (one of which is my GGrandfather George Kerr born 1838) were born between 1826-1848, in Dumfriesshire, the same period as your Alexander Kerr. So my George and your Alexander could be 2nd cousins???? I'm not sure where Dalmellington is in Ayrshire. George a Shepherd, did however marry Deborah Dick who came from New Cumnock, Ayrshire and their first son John Kerr was born in New Cumnock, Ayrshire in 1860. Their 2nd son William was born at sea in 1862 on their way to Australia. Happy hunting Chris in New Zealand In Ayrshire searching for families Arnott, Wallace, Kerr,Muir and Dick (so far!!!) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stewart Davidson" <stewart.davidson1@googlemail.com> To: "fabiochris" <fabiochris@orcon.net.nz>; "Ayrshire List" <ayrshire-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 12:44 AM Subject: Re: [AYR] Muir-Kerr connection > Hi Chris, Lynne and the list. > > I have a Kerr family in Ayrshire but the furthest back I have is > Alexander Kerr born 1841 in Dalmellington to a John Kerr and Ellen > Williamson - any connections? > > Stewart >> Hi Lynn, >> >> I do not know if our families connect in any way, but I have a Muir and >> Kerr marriage in 1768 . Robert Kerr born c.1737 in NewCumnock, Ayrshire >> married Marion Muir born c.1738, Burnhouse,Wiston, Lanarkshire on July >> 10th >> 1768 in Sanquhar, Dumfriesshire. Robert or Marion could have been Uncle >> or >> Aunt to your William or Jane. I have been told that Marion probably >> ended >> up in Dumfriesshire because many families in the Wiston area were >> involved >> in the weaving trade and moved to the Dumfries in the mid 1700's. >> >> Happy Hunting >> Chris in NZ >> - >> ---- Original Message ----- >> From: "Lynne Frizzell"<lynnef@telusplanet.net> >> To: "Ayrshire - List"<AYRSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 12:26 PM >> Subject: [AYR] William Muir 1751 >> >> >> >>> I am looking for siblings of William Muir, born March 3, 1751 in Dalry >>> (or >>> Drakemyre). He died October 17, 1833. His parents were William Muir >>> and >>> Margaret White. William married Jane Kerr in Dalry in 1785. Does >>> anyone >>> have this family in their tree? >>> >>> Thanks, Lynne >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> Internal Virus Database is out of date. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.5.406 / Virus Database: 270.14.105/2562 - Release Date: >> 12/13/09 >> 07:39:00 >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.406 / Virus Database: 270.14.105/2562 - Release Date: 12/13/09 07:39:00

Thank you Mary, Louise and Alex for clearing that up for me. Kind regards Chris in NZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alexander Hughes" <alex@mitchell-place.co.uk> To: <AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 5:11 AM Subject: Re: [AYR] mailing list or message board > Hi Chris > > As Louise said, if you are on the list you will get posts to the board > and the list. Sometimes there are more posts sent to the list itself and > other times there are more via the board. Having the board and list > mirrored means people on the list also see the message board posts. > > Regards, > Alex > > List & Board Admin > > fabiochris wrote: >> I recently joined the Ayr mailing list because I saw my message board >> query was sent to the mailing list but recently I am seeing now that the >> only emails I receive from the mailing list are those that are first put >> on the Ayr message board. Can someone explain to me why this is please? >> My experience with other mailing lists is that queries are sent directly >> to the list. >> >> Many thanks >> >> Chris in NZ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2687 - Release Date: 02/14/10 >> 07:35:00 >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.406 / Virus Database: 270.14.105/2562 - Release Date: 12/13/09 07:39:00

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ahynes77 Surnames: Brown, Gould Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/461.2555.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I believe they are my great-great grandparents! Though I have it listed as Jean Gould instead of Jane in my photos. I do have a picture of Jean but I have yet to find one of John. I believe your grandfather is the brother of my great-grandfather John Jordon Gould who was born in 1881. My great-grandfather then married Sarah Spink and they had three children, John Jordan Gould Jr. (my grandfather), Jean, and Joseph who died young. I have no information farther back than Jean and John though. So cool to finally find someone researching the same thing!! Allison Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Page 81 Janet Mclory being delate & sumondit for foron wt Frederick Bar, compeered and confessing is ordained to acknowledge hir sin publickly three several sabboths befoir the congregation. The qlk day Johne Boyd in strand is nominated & chosin treasaurer of the consignations, penalties & amumed rents in Adam Bairds place. Rot Crafurd in the gleib land being sumondit diverse tymes for stryking his mother compeired and confessed yt he violently thrust ovir his mother and yt in the face she was blooded, and is ordained to stand in sackcloth and acknowlege his sine in the publick The ministers and elders whoever appointed to deal wt Johne Gemmel to bring him to ane confession of the alleged adulterie wt Mart Lymburner did report yt he still stood to his denyal: the session ordaines them both to be referred to the presbetrie. Julii 6 1652 The qlk day Frederick Bar delate & sumondit for foron wt Jat Mclory, compeered confessing the sam is ordained to acknowlege his sine in the publick place three several sabboths. Johne Gemmel compeering befoir the presbytrie and denying she the act of adulterie wt Mart Lymburner, the presbytrie advysis that the session examine the presumptions of adulterie by witnessis and if after serious examination of the sourses he stil deny that then he purge himself by his oath befoir the congregation: this is reported by the ministers and ruling elder to the session. The qlk day Rot Crafurd in nether toun is chosin to be rulling elder to wait upon the presbytrie until the nixt synod. Page 82 Delations Johne Baird give wright for stryking and abusing his wife in his drukenes Rot Crafurd in Walstoun for alleget foron wt Elisabeth Cuming August 5 1652 The qlk day Elisabeth Cuming having slandered Robert Crafurd in Walstone of foron wt her self and the same Rot being sumondit befoir the session compeired denying not only the act of foron wt her bot the verie intention of it, the session for finding on the truth did cad hir yrby confronting of them the session might be the more cleir how to judge she she affirming hir guilte and he denying: and after all exact tryall as could be had the session did finde it expedient she sould acknowlege hir sin befoir the congregation, and that the said Rot sould purge himself by his oath publickly. Johne Baird being delate and sumondit for drukenes and stryking of his wife compeired, denying the same is referred to further trial The qlk day Nicol Robesone merchand did give in ane petition to the session for libertie to build ane ane house upon the ane nook of the church yaird, the session take it to further consideration. Delations Wm Hill & Allexr Chambers, Jas Boreland for profaning of the lords day by stealing poultry and pease and oyromso cenras. October 26 1652 The qlk day Johne Baird called & summondit diverse tymes for stryking and abusing of his wife and for drukennes not compeiring is ordained to be sumondit again Wm Hill Allexr Chambers James Bordland lads being brought befoir the session for profaining of the lords day it was ordained yt they sould be scourged by yr

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: shirleyk58 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/890.2487.2500.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi,just wondred if your william martin kennedy, had an ancestor, martin kennedy, born around 1847, regards sk Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi Lynn, I do not know if our families connect in any way, but I have a Muir and Kerr marriage in 1768 . Robert Kerr born c.1737 in NewCumnock, Ayrshire married Marion Muir born c.1738, Burnhouse,Wiston, Lanarkshire on July 10th 1768 in Sanquhar, Dumfriesshire. Robert or Marion could have been Uncle or Aunt to your William or Jane. I have been told that Marion probably ended up in Dumfriesshire because many families in the Wiston area were involved in the weaving trade and moved to the Dumfries in the mid 1700's. Happy Hunting Chris in NZ - ---- Original Message ----- From: "Lynne Frizzell" <lynnef@telusplanet.net> To: "Ayrshire - List" <AYRSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 12:26 PM Subject: [AYR] William Muir 1751 >I am looking for siblings of William Muir, born March 3, 1751 in Dalry (or > Drakemyre). He died October 17, 1833. His parents were William Muir and > Margaret White. William married Jane Kerr in Dalry in 1785. Does anyone > have this family in their tree? > > Thanks, Lynne > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.406 / Virus Database: 270.14.105/2562 - Release Date: 12/13/09 07:39:00

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: gilliesink Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/13773.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Katiebags Was so interested to read your info and have added it to my tree that I am building on an excel sheet! I seem to be missing a 9th child of James and Mary. I have Mary, Robert, Joseph, John, Margaret, Hugh, William, George. Who is my missing 1? So your husband is the grand son of my Grt x 3 Uncle John, wonder what makes your husband and me.......how many cousins how many times removed? Grace Steel actually died while visiting with my gran Margaret W S Allan (Gillies)at the house my father was brought up in , in Kelty. I stayed in that house many times during my child hood! Mungo and Grace had another child; Mary Wallace Allan Born 3/5/1905 Hayside Row Dreghorn Ayrshire. Married 15/7/1932 Age 27, Linen Factory Weaver, Lyall's Buildings Main St Kelty James Laing (Born ?6/1904 Dunshalt Falkland) Age 28 Linen Factory Tenter, 11 Swanacre Kinross. At Central Hall Kelty. Ref 410/02 0020. I am in touch with their daughter who lives in Canada. My personall email is gilliesink@hotmail.com so if you want you can contact me there. I could copy you yhe info I have on Mary, James and Gabriel. Best regards Kit Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I recently joined the Ayr mailing list because I saw my message board query was sent to the mailing list but recently I am seeing now that the only emails I receive from the mailing list are those that are first put on the Ayr message board. Can someone explain to me why this is please? My experience with other mailing lists is that queries are sent directly to the list. Many thanks Chris in NZ

Hi Chris As Louise said, if you are on the list you will get posts to the board and the list. Sometimes there are more posts sent to the list itself and other times there are more via the board. Having the board and list mirrored means people on the list also see the message board posts. Regards, Alex List & Board Admin fabiochris wrote: > I recently joined the Ayr mailing list because I saw my message board query was sent to the mailing list but recently I am seeing now that the only emails I receive from the mailing list are those that are first put on the Ayr message board. Can someone explain to me why this is please? My experience with other mailing lists is that queries are sent directly to the list. > > Many thanks > > Chris in NZ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2687 - Release Date: 02/14/10 07:35:00 > >

I wonder if there is anyone on the list who lives near Largs/Skelmorlie who could tell me if Ashcraig House is still standing, even if it has been modified into a hotel or some such please. Anne Maye. Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com

Hi Chris, Lynne and the list. I have a Kerr family in Ayrshire but the furthest back I have is Alexander Kerr born 1841 in Dalmellington to a John Kerr and Ellen Williamson - any connections? Stewart > Hi Lynn, > > I do not know if our families connect in any way, but I have a Muir and > Kerr marriage in 1768 . Robert Kerr born c.1737 in NewCumnock, Ayrshire > married Marion Muir born c.1738, Burnhouse,Wiston, Lanarkshire on July 10th > 1768 in Sanquhar, Dumfriesshire. Robert or Marion could have been Uncle or > Aunt to your William or Jane. I have been told that Marion probably ended > up in Dumfriesshire because many families in the Wiston area were involved > in the weaving trade and moved to the Dumfries in the mid 1700's. > > Happy Hunting > Chris in NZ > - > ---- Original Message ----- > From: "Lynne Frizzell"<lynnef@telusplanet.net> > To: "Ayrshire - List"<AYRSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 12:26 PM > Subject: [AYR] William Muir 1751 > > > >> I am looking for siblings of William Muir, born March 3, 1751 in Dalry (or >> Drakemyre). He died October 17, 1833. His parents were William Muir and >> Margaret White. William married Jane Kerr in Dalry in 1785. Does anyone >> have this family in their tree? >> >> Thanks, Lynne >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Internal Virus Database is out of date. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.406 / Virus Database: 270.14.105/2562 - Release Date: 12/13/09 > 07:39:00 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

I think it just happens to be that most folk post via the message board. But if you're on the mailing list you will get all the messages, not just those on the message boards. Louise On 14 February 2010 10:57, fabiochris <fabiochris@orcon.net.nz> wrote: > I recently joined the Ayr mailing list because I saw my message board query > was sent to the mailing list but recently I am seeing now that the only > emails I receive from the mailing list are those that are first put on the > Ayr message board. Can someone explain to me why this is please? My > experience with other mailing lists is that queries are sent directly to the > list. > > Many thanks > > Chris in NZ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jthincmh Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/13933/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Looking for Ann Brown born Ayrshire ca.1820 possibly Richerton. Married Hugh Osborne Dec. 1841. Jon Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lrharton Surnames: DOW Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/13932/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Researching the Dow family in Ayreshire kilmarnock region details I have are: John Dow DOB 9 Nov 1800.... 1st Marriage Harriot Lindsay 15 Apr 1825.... 2nd Marriage Barbara Pratt 13 Apr 1851.... DOD 16 Mar 1867.... Father: Robert Dow.... DOB 1779.... married Agnes Bicket - 16 Jul 1799.... DOD 25 Apr 1862 - yet to be confirmed.... Sibling - Ann Dow - DOB 05 Oct 1811, Kilmarnock.... If you are researching the same family please contact me, or if you have any further to add I would be greatful... Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I have an Ann BROWN b 1815 at Stewarton but whose parents James BROWN and Elizabeth Macfarlane were m in Riccarton.....if she is your Ann her eldest daughter will probably be named Elizabeth Macfarlane and the second son James........best wishes...Heather --- On Sun, 14/2/10, gc-gateway@rootsweb.com <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> wrote: > From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [AYR] Ann Brown > To: AYRSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Sunday, 14 February, 2010, 3:46 PM > This is a Message Board Post that is > gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: jthincmh > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/13933/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Looking for Ann Brown born Ayrshire ca.1820 possibly > Richerton.  Married Hugh Osborne Dec. 1841. > > Jon > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this > list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on > the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: iangdawson Surnames: Anderson Hislop Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/244.1.1.1.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am the Greatgrandson of this couple. My late mother's effects included several photos, invitations and press cuttings. I sent a CD of them to Barbara Anderson in New Zealand some years ago. and have posted some of them on my public tree Dawson family tree (note the upper and lower cases as there are other similarly named trees. direct e-mail address is iang.dawson@ntlworld.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Katiebags09 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/13773.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Kit, So pleased to have found link to the Wallace/Allan line. It's my husband who's a Wallace. James Wallace born abt 1750 married Mary Train 1785 Mauchline Parish Ayrshire they had 11 children I've traced, Mungo Wallace b 6.6.1799 was No.7. Mungo married Jean McKnight 1826 Stair Parish Ayrshire and they has at least 9 children. You are descended from Mary(1838) No.6 we are descended from John(abt 1840) No.7. (1871 census John is living with James Allan and Mary Wallace Crosshouse Kilmaurs Parish Ayrshire aged 30y) John married Margaret Kerr Aird 1873 Tarbolton Ayrshire they had 5 children. We are descended from their eldest John b.1874 Kilmaurs Parish. This John married Catherine Campbell Ramsey Coubrough 1903 Balantyre Lanarkshire they had three sons Robert the 2nd son was my husbands father. I have Mungo Allan and Grace Steel deaths both in Keilty Fife, have 3 children for them James. Margaret and Gabriel. Did they have anymore? any info on James or Gabriel? Regards Katiebags Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: nessie309 Surnames: Blackwood, Clark, Brown, Barbour, Farrell, Owens Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/1230.1265.3636.3667.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I've just found your thread and am not sure where you all are with your research on the Blackwoods... My grandfather was Archibald Blackwood (b.10 June 1895 in Hurlford, Ayrshire) His father was James married first to Elizabeth (nee Brown) b:1848 d:1883 Then married to Mary (nee Clark)b: 1860... with the following kids...John, Marion, Susan, Mary, Thomas, Robert and Archibald. Mostly Miners in Ayrshire...Let me know if this helps and I'll get you documentation/photos ...e-mail direct to billmcclung@comcast.net Regards Bill Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lakewoman121 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/13928.2.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thx John, I double checked, I can find no birth or death info for Mary Wallace. I did find the 1881 census, Mary is living with son Richard. Richard on census appears to have a birth date abt 1839, which is a fit. And Mary's age at time of census would be a fit also. Are these Morton's in your line? If so, we should chat... Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: gilliesink Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/13773.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: P.S. What is your connection? Wallace McKnight, Goldie? Mungo was my Grt x 3 g father. Regards Kit Gillies Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.