Page 89 Hew Caldwel often sumondit for neglect of family exercise was called & compeired not it is ordained be sumondit pro tertio. James Baird & Janet Mongersland being summondit as guiltie of forn both compeired denying the same, and the session finding not bein presumchal of there guilt after tryal did think fit the said Jas sould give his oath before the session that he was free of foron wt the sd Janet qlk he did, and was exhorted to for beir her fellowship. Maren Lymburner beinf delate & summondit for foron compeired confessing that she was wt chyld to ane corporal Davie englishman: the session after tryal whither the sd corporal Davie would tak wt the chyld or not finding that he did oun the chyld, did ordain her to acknowlege her sin in the publick place three several saboth dayes, and in the meintyme to be conferred wt by some elders for making her sensible Maren Galt being delate & summondit for fornication compeired confessing that she was wt chyld to one Robert Thomsone who as she affirmed she saw bot on tyme, the session suspecting her dissimulation appointed some to bring her to ane real and ingenuous confession of the truth and in end acknowlege that her chyld belong to Archbald Boyd in craigie her master ane married man. He is ordained to be sumondit to the session. Janet Smith being summondit for drinking wt englishme upon the lords day in tyme of sermon and for other miscarriages wt them compeired confessing her drinking wt them in tyme of sermone. The mater delayed till further tryall.

Hi Shirley Andrew interchanged with Allan - no, not to my knowledge maybe it was a transcription error. Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "barugh" <barugh@farmside.co.nz> To: <NEW-ZEALAND@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 6:12 PM Subject: [nz] Scottish Christian Names > Does anyone know if Andrew was interchanged with Allan? > > I have an Andrew CAMERON who came out, he was a brother ot my grandfather > Peter CAMERON. Peter is shown on a passenger list but it is an Allan who > is with him on the same list. Allans age fits with Andrews. Any ideas? > > Thanks again > > Shirley Barugh > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am looking for information on Margaret Goudie born circa 1843 possibly in Girvan. On both her marriage (1866) and death certificates (1921) her parents are recorded as John Goudie occupation Nailer (what is that?) and Margaret Baird. I can't find this family in the 1851 census when Margaret was 8 or in 1851 when she may have been working.

Nailer = someone who made nails. More info here : http://scotsfamily.com/occupations.htm http://www.rmhh.co.uk/occup/n-o.html#N Pat "Here's tae us! Wha's like us? Damn few! - an' they're a' deid!" Old Scots Toast -----Original Message----- From: ayrshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ayrshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Valerie Szabo Sent: 10 April 2010 08:59 To: ayrshire-request@rootsweb.com Subject: [AYR] Goudie family I am looking for information on Margaret Goudie born circa 1843 possibly in Girvan. On both her marriage (1866) and death certificates (1921) her parents are recorded as John Goudie occupation Nailer (what is that?) and Margaret Baird. I can't find this family in the 1851 census when Margaret was 8 or in 1851 when she may have been working.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JHMcDonnell Surnames: Brown Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/1646.3230/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The story of John Brown of Priesthill's murder by Claverhouse in front of this new wife, Isobel Weir, still with child and their infant son is well known, at least among his descendants and students of the period. Lets not forget however that John Brown had a previous marriage with Jonat Richart It is from that marriage that those such as myself claim descent. The tradition has been passed down in my mother's side of my family from at least six generation back with a stone mason named Mathew Brown, born in Ayrshire in about 1733. Mathew was most likely John Brown of Priesthill's great-grandson. Mathew's direct descent from JB of Priesthill is quite sure, and therefore so is those who followed such as myself. The number of generations, either 2 or 3, between John Brown and Mathew is not so sure. Sam Gibson in his genealogical presentation of John Brown of Priesthill gives only three children by his earlier marriage to Jonat Richart, Willian born in abt 1649, the year after they married followed 27 years later by Janet born in abt 1676 with James coming the next year, 1677. Assuming these dates and persons are correct, it seems very unlikely that no other children were produced in the years between. It is probably from one of those children, a son, and even possibly from William that my particular line of Scottish Browns begins I'd be especially interested in correspondence from anyone who can claim a similar descent. Regards to all. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: tomctaylor Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/13967/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I'm searching for Marion Hogg born Muirkirk 1818.Daughter of John Hogg & Marion Mcmillan. Many Thanks Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hello Catherine, The book "the Wilson Family History Anniversary 75th Edition" has a great long list of DODDS in their names index. On page 59 is the start of the narrative for "Family of Andrew and Christina Wilson Dodd, Christina Dodd branch. "Andrew Wright Dodd (1816-1896) married in 1844 to Christina Wilson (1824-1913) at Glessal Farm, Ayrshire, Scotland. Andrew and Christina Dodd lived as sub-renters on the farm Kilpatrick, Ayrshire, until 1858 when they moved on a dairy farm near Wigtown in southwestern Scotland. After one year they moved gain to Mull of Galloway, 30 miles away. This was not a successful venture, so in 1861the family moved to the James Wilson farm at Pinmore until 1863 when they decided to come to America and join Christina's brothers and sisters in Tama County. On July 1 1863, they with their eight living sons--first eight born at Kilpatrick and two at Whithorn, Wigtownshire, Scotland (two died) arrived at Luka (now Tama, Iowa). Their relatives did not know exactly when they would arrive so were not there to meet them. A Mr. Rice agreed to take them north to the Wolf Creek settlement, and they arrived at the West Wilson home that hot afternoon. Beginning in 1864 the family rented nearby farms in Grant and Crystal townships, and late established their own farm and home in Crystal townships, and late established their own farm and home in Crystal Township southwest of Traer. Three daughters were born between 1863 and 1868. Andrew and Christina Dodd both died at the home of Jean (daughter) and Thomas Bicket in Dinsdale Iowa. Both are buried in Buckingham Cemetery. Christina was known in the family as "Auntie Kerstie," who main object in life was to agree with everybody." There is a link with Christina Wilson and 'my' John Wilson; John is born on Glessal Farm, and Christina marries at Glessal Farm. The history refers to Christina joining her brothers and sisters when she and family make the move to Tama Iowa. John could be an older brother of Christina. If you contact me off-list I'll scan the 20 pages of the listing of the desc of Andrew and Christina. Also, there is an annual "Wilson" family reunion that you may be interested in. BTW - we live on the same coast...I'm a bit north of Vancouver on the rural "Sunshine Coast". Regards, Judy in BC Can -----Original Message----- From: ayrshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ayrshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of gc-gateway@rootsweb.com Sent: April-07-10 5:31 PM To: AYRSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AYR] descendants of James and Jane Lusk Wilson? This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: CatherineScherer Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/6941.1. 1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I think this is a completely different line, if indeed we both came from the James and Jane Lusk Wilson family. The Wilson/Lusk marriage took place in 1806. Their daughter Christina Wilson married Andrew Wright Dodd in 1846. Andrew was the son of Henry Dodds(later became Dodd) and that started our line. Christina and Andrew emigrated to Tama County Iowa and raised their 8 kids, one of whom was West Dodd, my great-grandfather. I recently ran into a third cousin here (I live on a small island in Puget Sound)which was an amazing coincidence. My sister and I went to Ayrshire a couple yrs ago and did a lot of research in the library there - extremely well organized historical records. We also found the graves of James/Jane Lusk Wilson in an old churchyard in Colmonell, Ayrshire, Scotland. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.801 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2797 - Release Date: 04/07/10 11:32:00

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: janetdavidusa Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/5899.1.2.1.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Vicki So far I have been unable to link our trees Should anything come to light I will let you know Janet Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: CatherineScherer Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/6941.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I think this is a completely different line, if indeed we both came from the James and Jane Lusk Wilson family. The Wilson/Lusk marriage took place in 1806. Their daughter Christina Wilson married Andrew Wright Dodd in 1846. Andrew was the son of Henry Dodds(later became Dodd) and that started our line. Christina and Andrew emigrated to Tama County Iowa and raised their 8 kids, one of whom was West Dodd, my great-grandfather. I recently ran into a third cousin here (I live on a small island in Puget Sound)which was an amazing coincidence. My sister and I went to Ayrshire a couple yrs ago and did a lot of research in the library there - extremely well organized historical records. We also found the graves of James/Jane Lusk Wilson in an old churchyard in Colmonell, Ayrshire, Scotland. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ladybuggz Surnames: Ayrshire, Dodds,Agnew,Hyslop Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/6941.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello Catherine, What a surprise! you were the second person to respond to my query the same day! the other person is related to the Dodd's in Ayrshire, and also lives there. I replied to them today also, I included all the info I have on the Dodd's,you might also want to read that one. I'll quickly run through it and I hope I don't miss anyone. My Great Grandmother was "Sarah Dodds" born abt.1825 in Maybole,Aryshire, she died June 20,1902 in Ayr,Ayrshir, at the age of 77. She married William Agnew, born abt.1819 in Colmonell,Ayrshire,who died Oct.01.1891 in St.Quivox,Ayrshire. Their children were, James-1843, Jane-1846, Helen-1848, Marion-1852, Sarah-1858, Jane-1860, Mary-1863.(I guess the first Jane must of passed away). Sarah Dodds(Agnew)mother was named Mary Dodds,born abt.1808 and no father was listed. Mary was listed in the 1881 Scotland Census as being age 73, and living in Lanarkshire. I do know that there were 2 other Mary Dodds and families, one living in Wigtownshire,and the other in Ayrshire,they had been born approx. in 1796, but I did not find any Sarah's in those families. I listed the other two families with all the names in the letter I wrote previously to yours(the person who lives in Ayr), so it will be posted and you can read over that also. I hope this helps, and lucky you for being able to visit Scotland(I'm jealous!). Good Luck! Teresa Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ladybuggz Surnames: Ayrshire, Dodds,Agnew,Hyslop Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/6941.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello, thank you for responding, the answer to your question is: My Great Great Grandparents on my mothers side are .. William Agnew and his wife Sarah Dodds. They both where working according to the 1841 Census at Dunure Harbour in Maybole. On the Marriage Register for my Great Grandparents, in 1889, in the District of Ayr, in the County of Ayrshire at the Hotel High Street, John Hyslop and Mary Agnew Wed. Listed for parents of the bride (Mary Agnew)are "William Hyslop and his wife Sarah Dodds" they lived in Lanarkshire, William was a gardener. I have "Sarah Dodds Born approx. 1825,in Maybole,Ayrshire and she died June 20/1902 in Ayr, Ayrshire, she was 77yrs old" mother, "Mary Dodds" born approx. 1808, but no father listed. I also found her at the age of 73, living in Lanarkshire in the 1881 Census. I seem to of hit a wall trying to find info on Sarah and her mother Mary and her father/husband. I know of 2 other families with Mary Dodds,one is with husband George, and daughter Mary who was 12yrs old in 1841, also listed is a son Thomas who was 7. they were also from Wigtownshire. I have also come across another Family of Dodds, Henery 55yr,Mary 45yr,Thomas 25yrs, Andrew 25yrs,Laimet 20yrs,Henery 15,John 16 yrs, Robert 10yrs. and Mary 8yrs old. Are you descendants of either of these families?? Do you know of the Mary Dodds in which I'm related ? Even if you find my Dodds aren't related, I'd still like to know, it is very interesting! Thank you very much, Teresa Asman Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Diana_Nowell Surnames: McKelvie, Muir, Brown Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/5899.1.2.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have in my data base: Thomas McKelvie b.26 Jan 1815 Ayershire, Scotland d. 24 April 1866 Knoxville, Knox Co, Illinois who married 0n 27 Mar 1840 Riccarton, Ayr, Scotland, Janet/Jennette Muir also His brother was John McKelvie b.4 Aug 18o7 Kilmarnock, Ayershire, Scotland d. 18 March 1864 Warren CO, Illinois who marriedon 21 May 1841 Riccarton, AYr, Scotland, Agnes Muir. I have as their parents: Frances McKelvie b. Dundonald & Janet Brown. Both brothers married sisters. John McKelvie & Agnes Muir were my grt-grt-grt grandparents. Do any of these names look familiar? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: vls42657 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/5899.1.2.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Jane/Jean McKelvie was born Feb. 25, 1871 in Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland. She married Hugh McLean McCulloch on August 9, 1889 in St. Quivox, Ayr, Scotland. Jean's parents were Robert and Margaret (Jean) Gibson. Robert was born Feb., 12, 1843 in St. Quivox, Ayr, Scotland. He and Margaret Gibson were married in Maybole, Ayr,Scotland on Dec., 31, 1866. Robert died in Ayr, Scotland on September 16, 1916. Margaret Gibson was born Sept. 24, 1846 in Maybole, Ayr, Scotland and died April 30, 1930 in Glasgow, Scotland. Robert McKelvie was the son of Duncan and Jean Norval McKelvie. Jean McKelvie McCulloch would be my great-grandmother. Robert and Margaret (Jean) Gibson my great-great-grandparents. Vicki Snearly Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: janetdavidusa Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/5899.1.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Vicki Can you give me years and areas of birth for Jane/Jean McKelvie and her parents also the year of their marriages Thanks Janety Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hello All, The subject line caught my attention because it's possible that 'my' John Wilson b. 1811 is a son of the folks in the subject line. In my tree I have married-in John WILSON, b. 16 Aug 1811 at Glessal Farm, Colmonell. He marries my gtgt Aunt, Jean MCCOSH b.7 Mar 1815 Patna Straiton on 8 Nov 1834 Barr, and they have 14 children. Their first born child and son is named James b. 16 Aug 1835 and their 4th child, and second daughter, is Jean Lusk Wilson b. 30 Jan 1840. Follows are the notes from a huge book "the Wilson Family History, 75th Anniversary edition 1921-1995" sent to me by family researcher Randy Lyon. John and Jean both d. in Perry Township, Tama Iowa. Jean d. 1881, John 1892 - and had married wife #2 Martha Hopkins in 1882. Follows are the file notes I have for John WILSON: "Gt. gt Uncle by marriage. John was born at Glessal Farm near Kilpatrick in Colmonell Parish AYR Sct. His parents are James Wilson and Jean or Jane Lusk. Note from page iii of the Wilson Family History 75th ed. "John, born on Glessal Farm; married in 1834 to Jean McCosh in Ayrshire. Had fourteen children. Lived near Old Luce, Wigtown Scotland until 1851 when they came to Norwich Connecticut. Arrived in Tama County in 1855 and settled on a farm three miles southwest of Traer. A son, James, better known as "Tama Jim" was the U.S. Secretary of Agriculture under Presidents McKinley, Theodore Roosevelt and Taft. John Wilson Branch." There is a huge amount of information in the book "Wilson Family History" including photos. In the 1880 US census, John age 68 farmer, wife Jean age 64 and daughter Flora age 40 a teacher and a grandson John W. Turnbull age 2 and said to be born in MA and his father is born Scotland, are in the home. Census place Perry, Tama, Iowa, FHL film 1254365, NA film number T-9-0365, page number 549C. MA is which US State? Thought Maine is Me, but maybe it was MA in 1880". (Left in the 'notes to self'. MA?) My main interest is MCCOSH; gt aunt Jean McCosh's parents are my x3 gt grandparents Peter MCCOSH (1784-1856) and Flora M. RAMSAY (1792-1865). Several of my McCoshes went to the US as well, to Perry Twp Tama Idaho. The McCosh name variants in the US are Cosh and Cash. Happy to share information with those connected to my ancestral family. Regards, Judy in BC Can -----Original Message----- From: ayrshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ayrshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of gc-gateway@rootsweb.com Sent: April-06-10 11:47 PM To: AYRSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AYR] descendants of James and Jane Lusk Wilson? This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lusks Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/6941.1. 1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: What is the connection with Dodds. My husbands gr grandfather was married to Maria Dodds and as you can see our surname is Lusk. We still live in Ayrshire but as far as I know have no connections to the places you mentioned. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.800 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2794 - Release Date: 04/05/10 23:32:00

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lusks Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/6941.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: What is the connection with Dodds. My husbands gr grandfather was married to Maria Dodds and as you can see our surname is Lusk. We still live in Ayrshire but as far as I know have no connections to the places you mentioned. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: vls42657 Surnames: McKelvie, McCulloch Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/5899.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Jill - I am most interested in making contact with you regarding the McKelvie family. My great-grandmother was Jane/Jean McKelvie who married Hugh McLean McCulloch in Maybole, Ayr, Scotland. She was the 3rd child of Robert and Margaret Gibson McKelvie. Jean and Hugh immigrated with their family to Peterborough, Ontario, Canada in 1912. I can provide you with information on Jean and Hugh McCulloch's family. Do you have any pictures of the McKelvie family. I hope to hear from you soon. Vicki Snearly Novi, MI USA Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: donnjohnston1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/5681.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Yes indeed I am still a looking. You can reach me at donnjohnston@gmail.com looking forward Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: CatherineScherer Surnames: Dodd Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/6941.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: It has been some years since that post and I am delighted to get a response! Yes, I am seeking contact with and/or info on any Dodds in Ayrshire. I was unable to find anyone currently living in the area when I visited with my sister a couple years ago. Thanks for responding - Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hello Arlene, The information below may help with an explanation; as well it seems that the lofts were accessible by outside staircases. One picture in on the site noted shows just that. Other articles speak of the lofts being set out for Heritors' which gave them a private space and often with fireplace and special seating apart from the congregation. http://www.wgma.org.uk/Articles/NEScotland/article.htm Also, I do have a book called "Drongan The Story of a Mining Village" which gives a wonderful accounting of the early 17th and 18th century coalmining. The 1791 Statistical Account reads "that on the lands of Drongan is an extensive coalliery, which has been wrought above a century, to the great benefit of Air and the neighbourhood". Survived is an early map dated may 19th 1710 and shows the coal shafts then in operation. The distances are in ells, an old Scottish measurement (1ell = 38") By the year 1900 the village consisted of 65 houses near the pithead and a few shops. These communities consisted entirely of the miners and their families. The rows were demolished in the 1930's due to the appalling conditions. By 1946 it was proposed that Drongan be developed as a 'new town" and miners with their families from other communities were also housed there. __________________________ Best regards, Linda Nordby In Part from the wgma site: Many lofts were built to accommodate the new choirs (11), the reasoning for them being set out in the July 1755 Scots Magazine. The anonymous correspondent urged "... that a body of the singers sit together, generally in some gallery or loft, by which means they mutually assist each other, and lead the voices of such as are scattered in the body of the church, and command them more effectually than it is the power of any precentor to do". In August 1755 it was further reported that "the gentlemen and ladies usually contribute very generously to ease the poorer people of some of the expense of being taught, and to purchase psalm-books for them: and the heritors not only afford their countenance, but have also built commodious lofts or galleries for the performers, in churches where they were wanting". In Kintore in 1754 "the new loft which the Earl of Kintore had built and gave free to those who were taught to sing, contained about 120 people and had greatly slacken'd the body of the church" (12). Visible evidence remains at Rayne, the third parish to experience the revival according to the Scots Magazine report; at the top of an external stair to a side gallery the date 1754 is carved. The choirs seem basically to have been three-part: at Huntly for example the new loft was divided into sections for cantus or treble, for tenor and for bassus (12). __________________________________________________________________ Subject: [AYR] Drongan Loft In regards to Stair, Ayrshire, I found an interesting site that mentions the church that was built in 1706.  It appears to have had two 'lofts' one named Drongan and the other Barskimming.  Could anyone clarify the loft designation?  I think that the baptismal record for my ancestor mentions being 'baptized at Drongan' Any help appreciated Arlene Hetchler Arizona, . ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message