Hi Andrew, There is this Thomas on the 1851 census (below from Ancestry) no sign of a son John. Also this marriage from the IGI Cheers Lorraine Cairns THOMAS RHONEY Pedigree Male Family ---- Marriages: Spouse: HANAH DEAN Family Marriage: 25 FEB 1822 Monkton, Ayr, Scotland Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date. 1851 Scotland Census about Thomas Ronney Name: Thomas Ronney Age: 51 Estimated birth year: abt 1800 Relationship: Head Spouse's name: Hannah Gender: Male Where born: Ireland Parish Number: 606 Civil parish: Monkton and Prestwick Town: New Prestwick County: Ayrshire Address: Maybole Row Occupation: Cotton Weaver Hand Loom ED: 5 Page: 16 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 66 Line: 7 Roll: CSSCT1851_136 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Ronney 51 Hannah Ronney 44 Elisabeth Williamson 24 daughter Andrew Williamson 21 son in law Henry Ronney 20 Hannah Ronney 18 Margaret Ronney 15 Barbara Ronney 7 Mary Ronney 10 Agnes Ronney 4 Isabella Ronney 3 Mo Charles Dean 74 father in law James Shaw 17 border -----Original Message----- From: ayrshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ayrshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Sent: Sunday, 18 April 2010 8:46 PM To: AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com Subject: [AYR] Thomas RONIE born about 1798, died age 62, 1860 Good Evening, If possible I would like to know some more about Thomas RONIE whose parents were John and Elizabeth RONIE ( nee MULHOLAND or MULHOLLANDS ). Thomas was a cotton hand loom weaver ( as was his father ). Thomas appears to have had a son, John, but I do not know who Thomas married and if he had any other children. I would also like to know if Thomas had any siblings. Thomas died in the parish of Monkton. Thank you. Andrew, Australia ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

A question suddenly occurs in my mind. Is there ever a distinction in such Session records between fornication and rape? I'd think that some of the consorting with the "Inglish" might actually be the former... but since the Cromwellians were actually an occupying force at the time the civil authorities probably would not have had the ability or inclination to proceed. The Kirk probably couldn't do anything about the English either, but I wonder if some of the "guilty" women were actually victims? Ken Cuthbertson In a message dated 4/18/2010 12:10:30 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, jbundy48@verizon.net writes: Hi Listers, At this point the handwriting and spelling make a real change, obviously a new clerk. I like his handwriting better than the previous clerk, but he wrote in a very tiny style. I may need stronger reading glasses. Jim Bundy Page 90 Jun 12 1653 The whilk day Hew Caldwell being summoned for neglect of familie exercise compeared confessed the same and that because he judged himself not able to doe it the session did rebuke him and did exhort him to doe as he could whereunto he did bind himself by promise The whilk day Janet Smith being summoned for scandalouse caredge with some Inglish by drinking with them in the tyme of sermon compeired acknowledging the same was sharply rebuked by the session and exhorted to forbear their company hence forth The whilk day compeared Isobell Smith who was somoned for scandalouse cariedge with Thomas Arthour purged hirself of fornication the session did think fit to rebuike hir sharply and to exhort hir to forbear his felowshipe The whilk day Agnes Blackwood being summoned as suspect of fornication compeared acknowledging that she was with chyld to an Alexr Mackduffe who lives in Galoway the session suspecting hir dissimulation referd the mater to further tryall Delations July 29 1653Adam Clerk suspect of fornication wt Agnes Mongersland James Mourchland for drunknes at Air The whilke compeared Adam Clerk being somoned as suspect of fornication with Agnes Mongersland and she also being somoned both compeared confessing the same and is ordained to acknowledge ther sinn publickly before the congregation which both did The whilk day compeared James Mourchland and being accused of drunknes at Air denyed the same is refered to further probation Marion Adam as suspect of fornication with ane Inglishman ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Good Evening, If possible I would like to know some more about Thomas RONIE whose parents were John and Elizabeth RONIE ( nee MULHOLAND or MULHOLLANDS ). Thomas was a cotton hand loom weaver ( as was his father ). Thomas appears to have had a son, John, but I do not know who Thomas married and if he had any other children. I would also like to know if Thomas had any siblings. Thomas died in the parish of Monkton. Thank you. Andrew, Australia

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Hi Listers, At this point the handwriting and spelling make a real change, obviously a new clerk. I like his handwriting better than the previous clerk, but he wrote in a very tiny style. I may need stronger reading glasses. Jim Bundy Page 90 Jun 12 1653 The whilk day Hew Caldwell being summoned for neglect of familie exercise compeared confessed the same and that because he judged himself not able to doe it the session did rebuke him and did exhort him to doe as he could whereunto he did bind himself by promise The whilk day Janet Smith being summoned for scandalouse caredge with some Inglish by drinking with them in the tyme of sermon compeired acknowledging the same was sharply rebuked by the session and exhorted to forbear their company hence forth The whilk day compeared Isobell Smith who was somoned for scandalouse cariedge with Thomas Arthour purged hirself of fornication the session did think fit to rebuike hir sharply and to exhort hir to forbear his felowshipe The whilk day Agnes Blackwood being summoned as suspect of fornication compeared acknowledging that she was with chyld to an Alexr Mackduffe who lives in Galoway the session suspecting hir dissimulation referd the mater to further tryall Delations July 29 1653Adam Clerk suspect of fornication wt Agnes Mongersland James Mourchland for drunknes at Air The whilke compeared Adam Clerk being somoned as suspect of fornication with Agnes Mongersland and she also being somoned both compeared confessing the same and is ordained to acknowledge ther sinn publickly before the congregation which both did The whilk day compeared James Mourchland and being accused of drunknes at Air denyed the same is refered to further probation Marion Adam as suspect of fornication with ane Inglishman

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mjpaton Surnames: DOCHERTY, PATON, CORNISH, MCGRORY Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/57.1533.1617.2847.3087.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Paddy Interesting - in my family I have a THOMAS DOCHERTY ( ships carpenter) married to a NANCY CORNISH in Ireland. They had a daughter SARAH JANE DOCHERTY in b1858 in Ireland and d1940 in Partick. She married SAMUEL PATON in Paisley in 1879 and they raised 9 children. I have not traced all. AGNES PATON b1882 JOHN PATON b1883 THOMAS PATON b1885 SARAH PATON b1896 ELIZABETH JULIA PATON b1899 GEORGE PATON 1901-1964 MARRIED HELEN MCGRORY Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: AshleyMichele79 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/13971.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: So sorry! I was wrong this is my family! Thank you so much! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lnordby3826 Surnames: Logan Thomson Kilpatrick Sinclair Yuille Frew Love Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/13971.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello again Ashley, I can see that this post may have confused you as there is a typo error on my part regarding the Christian name in the first part of the message. Should read John and not "Robert". The marriage certificate details of John Thomson and Agnes Garrett are clear. Yes, Agnes Garretts mothers Christian name was Agnes and her father's name was John as shown. I will email you a copy of the Banns. John Thomson did indeed have a brother, older, named Alexander. He also had siblings named following Alexander, Margaret, Ann, Sarah Duff, Cecelia Robina,Hendry, Agnes, Martha and Robert. Cheers Linda Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: AshleyMichele79 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/13971.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Linda, I am sorry. My grandfather was Robert Thomson, born June of 1914 to John Thomson and Agnes Garrett. John Thomson, my great-grandfather had a brother named Alex or Alexander. My great-grandmother, Agnes Garrett had parents named Agnes and John Garrett. I appreciate your help, though, thank you. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: closeau67 Surnames: KNOX McHAFFIE Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/13661.2.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: It is possible that the one Samuel Knox married twice. Birth & baptism 1828 at Beith: KNOX, John Bir 1828 Scot Ayrs Beith Fa: Samuel KNOX Mo: Jean KNOX And yet a Samuel Knox married a much younger Jane/Jean Hamilton in 1839 at Beith and seen 1841 at Bunswynd. JEAN HAMILTON - International Genealogical Index / BI Gender: Female Marriage: 07 DEC 1839 Beith, Ayr, Scotland It would seem she next married Charles McLuskie in 1852 also at Beith. The Jean Knox household in 1851 includes S in L Agnes UM aged 38 who seems to be one of the many children of Robert Knox m. Ann Kerr and likely parents of Samuel (Kerr) Knox. For 1841 this Agnes seems to be in residence with Hugh Knox and wife Jean Patrick. Agnes was given the middle name Wilson as was her older sister Margaret. My Samuel Hunter Knox was seen in a WILSON household for the 1841 Census when his father was likely deceased and his mother was in Glasgow. This was likely John Wilson m. 1834 Beith to Margaret Wilson. Unfortunately I do not have Ancestry membership and do not have a cert trail of these Knox of Beith except for my own direct lineage to Thomas Knox m. Catherine McHaffie. FYI my files do not indicate why I have Samuel KERR Knox as son of Robert Knox m. Ann Kerr. I cannot find that reference at FamilySearch today. A GOOGLE search gives one result for the name from Rootsweb/Ayrshire Archives. Hoping this helps. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: CatherineScherer Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/6941.1.1.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The info I have says that James Wilson was born in 1779 on the Kilpatrick Farm in Ayrshire Scotland. It is very near Barr - I have seen the farm. I don't know anything about any siblings. I did find his birth record in parish records held at the Carnegie library in Ayr. I've attached a photo that one of my cousins had of James and his wife Jane Lusk Wilson. We also found their burial place in the churchyard at Colmonell, Scotland. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: gilliesink Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/6941.1.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Can you give any info you have on James Wilson....his parents or sibblings etc. I have Wilson's from Kilamurs in Ayrshire and wonder is ther a connection? Thanks Kit Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: paddydocherty27 Surnames: docherty, paton, canning. brady. Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/57.1533.1617.2847.3087.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My name is Paddy Docherty from Greenock. My father was John Docherty he married my mother Mary Ann Paton also from Greenock. My grandfather was Michael Docherty born 1879 Stroove Greencastle Donegal Ireland, he married my grandmother Mary Brady in Greenock in 1909. My Gr Grandfather James Docherty Married Sarah Canning in ireland. My Gr Gr grandfather Michael Docherty was a tailor to trade so he was called Micky Taylor he also lived in Stroove. paddydocherty@gmail.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: closeau67 Surnames: KNOX McHAFFIE HUNTER Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/13661.2.1.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello and thank you for your response to my post. KNOX is the primary line in my Scottish research. There is much I don't know about this line. My brickwall is Thomas who married in 1804 at Cathcart/Ren to Catherine McHaffie. I have three different theories for the last child being named Samuel Hunter Knox. These theories were possible because at one time I had contact with a 'cousin' living in Glasgow who had oral tradition with regard to our line. FYI there was another William Hunter Knox born in Glasgow and bapt at Hutchesontown Relief Church in 1825. Parents William Knox m. 1820 Glasgow to Margaret Hunter. I would be interested in email contact if that would interest you? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: imitchel Surnames: KNOX, HAMILTON Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/13661.2.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Regarding John Knox, b. 1828, if you look at the 1841 Census on FreeCEN, you will see that his mother is listed there as Jane Hamilton. She appears in the 1851 Census as Jean Knox, Widow, age 29, Occ: Sewer. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: esbfun Surnames: Knox, Hunter Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/13661.2.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am interested in your Samuel Hunter Knox. My great grandfather was William Hunter Knox bn. 1881. I haven't been able to trace where the Hunter came from yet. His father was John Knox, born in Beith in 1828. John's parents were Samuel Knox (weaver) who married a Jean Knox. I haven't been able to trace their marriage so far. Did you have any more luck pinning down the Hunter connection ? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: VivienneShakespeare Surnames: McDonald Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/13972/mb.ashx Message Board Post: William was the father of James McDonald born in Carlisle, Cumberland in 1839. His mother is stated as Mary on James marriage Certificate when he married Jane Scott born in Girvan, Ayeshire in 1841. William may have originally come from Scotland but I now have some reason to believe he may be from Ireland though where I don't know. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lnordby3826 Surnames: Logan Thomson Kilpatrick Sinclair Yuille Frew Love Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/13971.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Greetings from Vancouver Canada I am able to help you with in regards to your Thomson family research. My Stevenston, Ayrshire family connect a number of times into your Thomson family line. First of all, I will copy for you here on the marriage details of your great grandparents Robert and Agnes and then follow with the census records for the years 1871 through 1901. In 1861 your Robert was at home with his parents aged 14yrs and working as a coal miner. I can continue to assist with your ancestor information that has been possible for me to document. Your gg grandparents are named: Alexander Thomson and Ann Kilpatrick both born in Stevenston and died in Stevenston. Your Robert born Feb 17 17th, 1842 died Nov 14 1908. I have 10 children born to Robert Thomson and Agnes Duff with marriages for five. With best regards, Linda Nordby ______________ 615/00 0011 Stevenston, Ayrshire, Scotland Marriage on the 16th day of January 1914 at 14 Ardoch Crescent, Stevenston, Ayrshire After Banns according to the Forms of the Free Church of Scotland John THOMSON, bachelor, coalminer aged 22yrs of 47 New Street, Stevenston (signed) and Agnes GARRETT, spinster, dynamite worker aged 21yrs of 14 Ardoch Crescent, Stevenston (signed) Parents of the Groom: Robert Thomson, coalminer (deceased) Agnes Thomson, maiden surname DUFF Parents of the Bride: John Garrett, dynamite worker (deceased) Agnes Garrett, maiden surname MCMILLAN Witnessed by: Neil Sinclair and Susan Garrett (both signed) Officiating: Edward Gillespie of the Stevenston Free Church (signed) Registered at Stevenston January 19 1914 ___________________________________________ 1871 Census Boglemart St, Stevenston Name: Robert Thomson Age: 24 Estimated birth year: abt 1847 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Agness Gender: Male Where born: Stevenston, Ayrshire Registration Number: 615 Registration district: Stevenston Civil parish: Stevenston County: Ayrshire Address: Boglemart St Occupation: Coalminer ED: 3 Household schedule number: 114 Line: 9 Roll: CSSCT1871_115 Household Members: Household Members: Name Age Robert Thomson 24 Agness Thomson 21 Alexander Thomson2 Margaret Thomson8 Months ___________________________________________ Dwelling: Boglemart St 1881 Census Place: Stevenston, Ayr, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203609 GRO Ref Volume 615 EnumDist 3 Page 1 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Robert THOMSON M 34 M Stevenston, Ayr, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Coal Miner Agnes D. THOMSON M 31 F Kilbirnie, Ayr, Scotland Rel: Wife Occ: Coal Miners Wife Alexander THOMSON 12 M Stevenston, Ayr, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Coal Miners Daur Margret THOMSON 10 F Monkland, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Ann THOMSON 8 F Stevenston, Ayr, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Sarah D. THOMSON 7 F Stevenston, Ayr, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Cecilia THOMSON 3 F Stevenston, Ayr, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Coal Miners Daughter Hendrey THOMSON 2 m M Stevenston, Ayr, Scotland Rel: Son ________________________________________________ 1891 Census Boglemart, Stevenston Name: Robert Thomson Age: 45 Estimated birth year: abt 1846 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Agnes Gender: Male Where born: Stevenston, Ayrshire Registration Number: 615 Registration district: Stevenston Civil parish: Stevenston Town: Stevenston County: Ayrshire Address: Boglemart Occupation: Coal Miner ED: 3 Household schedule number: 108 Line: 11 Roll: CSSCT1891_216 Household Members: Name Age Robert Thomson 45 Agnes Thomson 42 Sarah Thomson 17 Cecilia Thomson 13 Hendry Thomson 10 Agnes Thomson 8 Martha Thomson 4 Robert Thomson 2 John Thomson 3Months ___________________________________________ 1901 Census New Street Name: Robert Thomson Age: 55 Estimated birth year: abt 1846 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Agnes Gender: Male Where born: Ayrshire, Stevenston Registration Number: 615 Registration district: Stevenston Civil parish: Stevenston Town: Stevenston County: Ayrshire Address: New St Occupation: Coal Miner ED: 3 Household schedule number: 151 Line: 9 Roll: CSSCT1901_237 Household Members: Name Age Robert Thomson 55 Agnes Thomson 54 Harry Thomson 20 Agnes Thomson 17 Marth Thomson 14 Robert Thomson 13 John Thomson 11 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: AshleyMichele79 Surnames: Thomson-Garrett Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/13971/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, I am looking for information on my grandfather and great-grandparents. My grandfather, Robert Thomson, was born on June 1914 in Ayrshire, Scotland to John Thomson and Agness (Garrett) Thomson. I know that Agnes Garrett had a brother named Matthew and her mother's name was also Agnes. John on the other hand, I know very little, he was a miner and demolitions expert and died shortly after his arrival in America in 1916. I do know that he had an older brother named Alexander or Alex Thomson who also came to America and lived in Pennsylvania for a short period of time. I am at a loss and cannot find anything further. Any help or guidance would be greatly appreciated. My email address is amthompson1026@gmail.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: danjdavy Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/1311.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, I am a doctoral student at the University of Otago, in Dunedin, NZ, where I am researching the Otago gold rushes. I am currently trying to locate letters, diaries and memoirs written by gold miners that are held in private hands, and I am wondering if you might have any relevant material you'd be willing to let me take a look at. In exchange, I'd be happy to send you whatever information I can find about your ancestors. I can be reached at danjdavy@hotmail.com Thanks, Dan Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.