I wonder if anyone can help me find the location of a place called Unthank in the Parish of Kilbirnie?  It looks like Unthank on the birth registration of my Isabella McLELLAN in 1857. I am also searching for Braehead in Beith nearby in Renfrew. I think it is a street but cannot find it on a map.  It was given as the birthplace of the above Isabella's brother John in 1854. Thank you for any help that I can get. Anne Maye

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Page 91 October 20 1653 The whilk day James Mourchland being sumoned for drunknes at Air compeared deneyed yet the same the witneses being wer brought in their depositions did think fit to rebuik him sharply before the session for such presumptions as they found and to exhort him to sobrietie hence forth The whilk day Marrion Adam being sumond as suspect of fornication with ane Inglishman compeared deneying the act of fornication with the said Inglishman but acknowledging in circumspect and unbeseeming caredge with him ofen which the session did sharply rebuik hir and did exhort hir to forbear any more fellowship with him Delations Thomas Hog William Hoge sones to William Hoge and John Broun sone to Johne Browne salt man for profaining the saboth Thomas Crichtowne Johne Smith and Johne Mourdoch for profaining the Saboth. Rot Hog in burnend for not praying in his famalye Jonet Harper for being with child Johne Blackwood skinner for swearing William Kid and Johne Wasoun for drunknes in the fair night Novemb 24 1653 The whilk day the session hearing that Alexr Mackgussock wes wes come to the same ordained him to be sumoned for aledged fornication with Agnes Blackwood he compeared and is ordanyed to testifie his repentance before the congregation according to order both the saids persons did give obedience and wer recaved The whilk day Thomas Hoge William Hoge sones to William Hoge and Johne Browne sone to Johne Brown Saltman being sumoned for profaining the Lords day compeared the session finding them to be bot young boyes did sharply rebuick them exhorted them to have more respect to the saboth day hence forth. The whilk day Thomas Chrichtowne John Smith and Johne Mourdoch being sumond for profaining the Lords day compeared and ther sine being proven as also acknowledged be themselves

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Hi My book says a boll is a 'an old scottish dry measure of not more than 6 bushels' ...and a bushel equals 8 imperial gallons (64 US pints) But I don't get the tyme bit ...I don't think it can be thyme ... Irene On 25 April 2010 15:27, Loretta Layman <lynneage@h-o-l.com> wrote: > For Jenny and anyone else who may be interested, Heather has enlightened me > as to exactly what a "bow" or "bowl" is in Scots measures. Puts a new > light > on "thrie bow tyme meill" or "three bowls of thyme meal" > > > > Loretta > > > > From: Heather Grimwood [mailto:heather.grimwood@xtra.co.nz] > Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 4:54 PM > To: Loretta Layman > Subject: Re: [AYR] Kilmarnock Kirk Session Minutes, note 68 > > > > > a bowl /boll is three bushells and three pecks.......remembered > from > tables on back of exercise books studied in hours of > boredom!!.....Heather > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I too have Murchlands, David Murchland marr Janet Muir 1779 Kilmarnock. Children were, James ch 1789, John b 1792, Mathew b 1797, mary b 1779, Janet c1790 / David b 1788, Agnes b 1784, David b 1780, all born at Hill Fenwick. Janet c 1790 is my ggg grandmother, she married Peter Dickie 1810 Fenwick. Children, James b 1811, Janet b 1812, Agnes b 1816 my gg grandmother, married Robert Mackie, Jean b 1818, David b 1821, Peter b 1825. All were born at Horsehill Farm Fenwick. Regards Margaret

For Jenny and anyone else who may be interested, Heather has enlightened me as to exactly what a "bow" or "bowl" is in Scots measures. Puts a new light on "thrie bow tyme meill" or "three bowls of thyme meal" Loretta From: Heather Grimwood [mailto:heather.grimwood@xtra.co.nz] Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 4:54 PM To: Loretta Layman Subject: Re: [AYR] Kilmarnock Kirk Session Minutes, note 68 a bowl /boll is three bushells and three pecks.......remembered from tables on back of exercise books studied in hours of boredom!!.....Heather

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dunamis142 Surnames: Beckett Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/4528.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I'm looking for John Beckett's family in Victoria. Most of last geberation gone, but my mother remembers an Aunt Essie who had a boarding house in Sydney. John came up from Victoria to Sydney, and so did Ess and her family. The family we have been looking at had a Bethia and I thought it must have been her, but you have me thinking now. Did you find out any more of Essie? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Camracrazy Surnames: Sutherland, Lightburn Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/13978/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am looking for more information on Dolina Lightburn that died in 1908 in the Largs District of Ayrshire. She was born Donaldina Sutherland in 1845 in Wick, Caithness. She married John Fell Lightburn in the US in 1885. On the 1901 Scottish census she is listed in Glasgow in the employ of William Strachan as a housekeeper. I would love to find an exact date of death and where she is buried. Thanks Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

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I  am interested  in  ANY  Thomas  BROWN'S,  especially  with  a  daughter  Mary,  and  especially  if  it  is  his  second  daughter  i.e.  probably  after  his  mother However,  are you  sure  it  is  their  Mary  who  married  Hugh  STEEL  1803?  Even  supposing  Jean  and  Thomas  married  late,  a  Mary  born to them  would  seem to   be  an elderly  wife  for  your Hugh.  Have  you  got  HER  death?  Maybe  there  was  an  intervening  generation. ...Heather    

Following a letter I wrote in August 2009, I got Email last week from a lady, saying that she was part of one of the listed unknown families I had put at the bottom of this family chapter. She provided me this this:- "OBITUARY "FORT WILLIAM - DEATH OF MR DUNCAN BOYD, STRONCHREGGAN. - Another of our landmarks has been removed by the death of Mr Duncan Boyd of Stronchreggan, which took place at his residence in his 83rd year last Tuesday. Mr Boyd was, till within a few years since manager for the Macleans of Ardgour, and since for Lord Morton's Ardgour estate. The family records of the Macleans show that the deceased gentleman's ancestors have been confidential servants and friends of the Macleans for over 500 years. Mr Boyd was an elder of the Free Church, member of the Parochial and School Boards of Kilmallie, and always took a lively interest in all matters beneficial to the community at large. The burial took place on Saturday in the old burial-ground of Kilmodan. The funeral was largely attended by people from all quarters. Mr Boyd leaves a widow and grown up family of sons and daughters. His remains were placed in Neil, his late son's grave (formerly of the Clyde Trustees Office, Glasgow)." So this over 500 years linkage would take it back to 1380 and will open up another line of inquiry. These Boyd of Ardgour, just west of Fort William, would suggest that they were SEPARATE CADET BRANCH OF THE BOYD's I do not know very much about the history of the Macleans of Argyllshire, but the first POSSIBLE link could be the both fought at Bannockburn in 1314 with Bruce. But despite two visits to Stirling in 2008 and 2009, I have yet to find what Clans fought with Robert the Bruce at Bannockburn in 1314. All I could find as that Sir Robert Boyd, then Head of the Clan, was a "commander". The information did not say what he commanded. Although I do know he was not one of the other three Divisional Commanders, so can only guess it was a smaller formation. I do know that the first Earl of Kilmarnock's eldest daughter:- Q2 Lady Mary/Marie Boyd, b / /1665 ( ), C 15/12/1665 (Dumbarton, Kirkintillock Parish, Dumbartonshire), d 17xx ( ), bu , m / /168x ( , ), said to have married Sir Alexander Maclean, son of and (nee ) Maclean, b 16xx ( ), d 17xx ( ), bu , and had issue:- ? married Sir Alexander Maclean. So it would seem that this old alliance had not been forgotten in the later 1600's. However, despite going through The Baronage of Scotland; containing an Historical and Genealogical Account of the Gentry of that Kingdom: Sir Robert Douglas of Glenbervie, Bt, 1798, very carefully I could not find him listed. So I am not sure if his family had died out or had been promoted to a higher title. When I am in Edinburgh in September, I will search again for the familyof Sir Alexander Maclean and Mary Boyd. So if you have any details that me help me to find this couple, I would be grateful Thank you Mike Boyd Historical Committee, HBS

Fascinating, thanks as ever Jim. It's the first time I remember seeing a 'Mourchland' - two generations down the road, I've a marriage in 1714 of a James Adam, bonnetmaker, and Janet Murchland daughter of John Murchland who'd farmed in Kilmaurs. It is so interesting to see these names coming up. There were, of course, many Adams and doubtless quite a few Mourchlands! Jenny At 11:09 -0700 18/4/10, Jim Bundy wrote: >The whilk day compeared James Mourchland and being accused of drunknes at >Air denyed the same is refered to further probation >Marion Adam as suspect of fornication with ane Inglishman >

Hi Jenny. In my study of Lynns, I found these two Murchlands: 1. In 1608, Jon. Lin of that Ilk was named in the testament of Mareone Murchland, spous to Rot. Wilson in Lyn; at the time of Mareone's death, she was indebted to John Lin for thrie bow tyme meill. ["History of the County of Ayr: With a Genealogical Account of the Families of Ayrshire", Vol. I, James Paterson, Edinburgh (1847)] From definitions given in the online Dictionary of the Scots Language, it appears that "thrie bow tyme meill" is "three bowls of thyme meal". 2. In 1909, Charles Murchland was a printer for the Herald Office in Irvine, being listed as such for a 1909 publication called "Hammermen of Irvine". The following web page also says that Charles himself is included in the booklet's "Membership of the Craft of Hammermen as at 4 March 1909" and also that he is on the listed admitted to the guild in 1890. The question is whether he would have been a hammerman by virtue of being a printer or something else, with printing being a sort of sideline. The booklet itself lists only these crafts as being part of the hammermen guild: blacksmiths, goldsmiths, clock-makers, saddlers, cutlers, armourers and pewterers. [http://www.troonayrshirefhs.org.uk/hammermen/] Loretta -----Original Message----- From: ayrshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ayrshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of J Blain Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 4:49 AM To: Jim Bundy; Rootsweb Ayrshire Subject: Re: [AYR] Kilmarnock Kirk Session Minutes, note 68 Fascinating, thanks as ever Jim. It's the first time I remember seeing a 'Mourchland' - two generations down the road, I've a marriage in 1714 of a James Adam, bonnetmaker, and Janet Murchland daughter of John Murchland who'd farmed in Kilmaurs. It is so interesting to see these names coming up. There were, of course, many Adams and doubtless quite a few Mourchlands! Jenny

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: gilliesink Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/13968.3.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Would be interested to see if you have info on Jean Dick Born 1724 Married Thomas Brown. Thomas Brown's daughter Mary Married 21/4/1803 Hugh Steel Baptised 16/3/1788 Loudoun Ayrshire Ref 603/0010 0200. 1841C Age 55 Linen Weaver? Died Pre 1851C. Is there a connection? Regards Kit Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mommafrizz Surnames: Bunten Muir Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/6320.1.4.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks very much for your reply. My Elizabeth Muir continues to be elusive! If I find out more information regarding Robert Bunten/Elizabeth Muir I will post it to the list. Lynne Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Some years ago when constructing a Boyd family from Ardgour, just west of Fort William I found this:- In 1597 James VI of Scotland and I of England had "planted" the troublesome Isle of Lewis off the west coast of Scotland with 500 dependable settlers who, alas, died from hunger or were murdered. In 1607 he similarly "planted" Kintyre and it was relatively successful ... ." (The Irish Link, 5 June 1985, p 3) Besides Boyds, this family had Kennedies marrying into it. Does anyone on this list know anything about these various "Plantations" of the Scootish West Coast? And do they know if any Ayrshire families took part in this migration? Mike Boyd Historical Commitee, HBS

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jasper678 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/6320.1.4.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Lynne, Sorry I do not have any information on Robert Bunten and Elizabeth Muir apart from their names. Although it is thought that Elizabeth died abour 1846. This is only hearsay, as there are no records this earlyu. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.