The 1887 Nanaimo Mine Disaster Mining Victims from Many Nations _____ This article is reproduced in it's entirety from Volume 13, Issue 4, Winter 1996 of AncesTree, and cross indexed over to Volume 11, Issue 3, Fall 1994 for the level numbers, published by the Nanaimo Family Historical Society. Another excellent reference resource about the lives of miners on Vancouver Island is the soft cover book "Three Dollar Dream" by Lynne Bowen, (ISBN0889820651, Published in 1987 by Ooolichan Books, Lantzville, British Columbia, $19.95). Using photos, maps, testimony from the inquest, and vivid descriptions from the families of lost miners, Bowen paints a clear picture of the 1887 tragedy and documents the underground working conditions at that time. This well-researched book also chronicles the tales of immigrants from many nations who came to dig the coal, and the tragic accidents that befell them. _____ On May 3, 1887, a massive explosion erupted deep underground in the Number One Coal Mine in Nanaimo, British Columbia, taking the lives of 148 souls, many of whom had immigrated to Vancouver Island from countries all over the world. By the end of that week, the Nanaimo Free Press had published the names of most of those confirmed dead in the disaster. Because newspaper accounts on the tragic accident were incomplete (and the surviving clippings have deteriorated to the point where some names are almost illegible), the following transcription may contain errors and omissions. Victims of the 1887 Nanaimo Mine Explosion * Allen, Thomas(No. 5 Level)- Bristol, England, 24 yrs, single, runner * Benton, Edward(No. 1 Level)- Rothwell, Yorkshire, England, 34 yrs, left a wife & 6 children * Bertram, George S.(No. 3 Level)- Yorkshire, England, 37 yrs, left a wife & 3 children * Bevilockway, Herbert(No. 3 Level)- Nanaimo, 24 yrs, single * Biggs, George(New Slope)- Nanaimo, 27 yrs, single * Bjurling, Arvid(No. 5 Level)- Sweden, 30 yrs, supposed to be single * Blundell, Jonathan(New Slope)- Maryport, Cumberland, England, 33 yrs, wife & 5 children * Buffington, Robert(No. 1 Level)- * Bone, William(No. 1 Level)- Penzance, Cornwall, England, 42 yrs, left a wife & 3 children * Bowden, George(No. 1 Level)- Cornwall, England, 71 yrs, widower * Bramley, Jonathon, Jr.(No. 1 Level)- Rothwell, Yorkshire, England, 36, wife & 3 children * Brun, H - runner No. 5 Level - Old Slope * Burns, William(New Slope)- Scotland, 35 yrs, single, won silver medal as soldier in Egypt * Byers, James(No. 3 Level)- Wrickbridge, Cumberland, England, 22 yrs, left a wife & child * Campbell, William R(No. 1 Level). - Cape Breton, Nova Scotia, 28 yrs, single, engineer * Campbell, James(No. 1 Level)- Rye, Sussex, England, 39 yrs, married no children * Cochrane, William L.(Sinking Shaft)- step-son of J. Crave, Wellington Rd, single * Corcoran, Michael(No. 5 Level)- County Kerry, Ireland, 46 yrs, left a wife & 6 children * Davey, William(No. 3 Level)- Whitehaven, Cumberland, England, 33 yrs, single * Davey, James(No. 3 Level)- Whitehaven, Cumberland, England, 33 yrs, single * Davis, William(Sinking Shaft)- Ruthin, Denbighshire, N. Wales, 36 yrs, wife & 2 children * Dawson, Daniel(New Slope)- Cletermore, Cumberland, England, 28 yrs, single * Dawson, Thomas(New Slope)- Cletermore, Cumberland, England, 32 yrs, single * Drake, Charles(New Slope)- Sweden, 27 yrs, left a wife & 3 children * Ducca, Peter(No. 5 Level)- Formaco, Italy, 25 yrs, single * Ellis, Arthur(No. 1 Level)- 21 yrs, son of David Ellis * Ellis, David(No. 1 Level)- Rothwell, Yorkshire, England, 48 yrs, left a wife & 4 children * Evans, Thomas(No. 3 Level)- Llwynpia, Glamorgan, S. Wales, wife & 4 children * Fallen, John C.(No. 1 Level)- Michigan, U.S.A., recently from California, 30 yrs, single * Fillipea, Anderoti(No. 5 Level)- Genoa, Italy, 28 yrs, single * Forrest, Joseph(No. 1 Level)- Longhurst, Northumberland, England, 28 yrs, just married * Gilbert, William(No. 1 Level)- Goldsithney, Cornwall, England, 43 yrs, wife & 4 children * Gorman, Thomas(New Slope)- Middleton, County Cork, Ireland, 24 yrs, single, runner * Hague, William(New Slope)- Oldham, Lancashire, England, 23 yrs, left a wife & child * Hoggan, James(No. 3 Level)- Cape Breton, Nova Scotia, 21 yrs, single * Hoy,William(New Slope)- Sydney Mines, Cape Breton, 21 yrs, left a wife & child * Hughes, Thomas(New Slope)- Buckley, Flintshire, N. Wales, abt. 32 yrs, wife & children * Hunter, Andrew(No. 1 Level)- Nanaimo, 15 yrs * Isbister, James(No. 3 Level)- Nanaimo, 17 yrs, single * Johns, Nicholas(No. 5 Level)- Cornwall, England, 26 yrs, left a wife * John, Edward(No. 1 Level)- Wales, recently from Minnesota, 40 yrs, left a wife & family * Johnson, John(New Slope)- Sweden, abt 31 yrs, left a wife & 4 or 5 children * Jones, Evan(No. 3 Level)- Llanarmon Yu Tale, Denbigh, N. Wales, 40 yrs * Lee, Hudson(No. 3 Level)- Rothwell, Yorkshire, England, 22 yrs, single * Lee, Henry(No. 3 Level)- Rothwell, Yorkshire, England, 48 yrs, left a wife & 10 children * Lewis, Abraham T.(No. 3 Level)- Brymbo, near Wrexham, N. Wales, 47 yrs, wife & child * Linn, John(Sinking Shaft)- Ayreshire, Scotland, 34 yrs, left a wife & 5children * Lukey, William, Jr.(No. 3 Level)- Wisconsin, U.S.A., 27 yrs * Lukey, William, Sr.(No. 3 Level)- Cornwall, England, 50 yrs, left a wife & 5 children * Lyons, James(New Slope)- Ireland, 44 yrs, left a wife & child * Lyon, Michael(No. 1 Level)- 15 yrs, son of miner James Lyons * Martin, Thomas(No. 1 Level)- Nanaimo, 23 yrs, single * Mattison, Frederick(Sinking Shaft)- Sweden, abt. 30 yrs, single * McDonald, Alexander(New Slope)- Pictou County, Nova Scotia, 23 yrs, single * McDonald, Roderick(No. 5 Level)- Cape Breton, Nova Scotia, 37 yrs, left a wife & child * McGuffie, John(No. 1 Level)- Nanaimo, 23 yrs, single * McLean, Malcolm(No. 5 Level)- Sydney Mines, Cape Breton, Nova Scotia, 31 yrs, single * Meakin, John, Sr. (No. 1 Level)- London, England, 57 yrs, wife & 9 children * Meakin, Arthur (New Slope) - Nanaimo, 19 yrs, youngest son of miner John Meakin, Sr. * Milton, James(No. 1 Level)- Indiana, U.S.A., recently from California, abt 30 yrs, single * Morgan, John W.(No. 5 Level)- County Down, Ireland, abt 28 yrs, single * Morgan, David(No. 1 Level)- Cowbridge, Glamorganshire, S. Wales, 27 yrs, single * Morris, William(New Slope)- Missouri, U.S.A., abt 30 yrs, left a wife & 3 children * Morton, John(No. 3 Level)- Lanarkshire, Scotland, 30 yrs, left a wife & 2 children * Morton, Andrew(No. 3 Level)- Lanarkshire, Scotland, 28 yrs, left a wife & child * Muir, Andrew(No. 1 Level)- Ayrshire, Scotland, 45 yrs, left a wife & 6 children * Muir, Archibald (No. 3 Level)- Ayrshire, Scotland, 57 yrs, left a wife & 3 children * Myles, John(New Slope)- Redding, Stirlingshire, Scotland, 39 yrs, single * Myers, Samuel H(No. 5 Level)- Ireland, 49 yrs, single * Nicholson, Robert(New Slope)- Northumberland, England, 34 yrs, left a wife & 2 children * Old, George(No. 3 Level)- Penzance, Cornwall, England, 46 yrs, left a wife & child * Perry, Thomas(New Slope)-Backworth, Northumberland, England, 32 yrs, wife & 2 children * Popplewell, Benjamin(No. 1 Level)- Methley, near Leeds, Yorkshire, England, 28 yrs, single * Richards, John(No. 1 Level)- Birmingham, England, 45 yrs, wife(son in England by 1st wife) * Ridley, William(No. 3 Level)- Clifton near Workington, Cumberland, England, 28 yrs, single * Scales, William(New Slope)- New Westminster, B.C., 27 yrs, single * Simmons, George(No. 1 Level)- London, England, 35 yrs, left a wife & child * Smiley, Allan(New Slope)- Glasgow, Scotland, 34 yrs, left a wife & child * Smith, J.J.(No. 1 Level)- Liverpool, England, lately Australia, 25 yrs, Brakeman * Smith, John(Sinking Shaft)- Scotland, 21 yrs, single * Stephenson, William Henry(New Slope)- Macon County, Missouri, 18 yrs, married * Stevens, John(No. 1 Level)- Iowa, U.S.A., 23 yrs, single * Stove, John(No. 3 Level)- Nanaimo, 23 yrs, left a wife & child * Stove, Robert(No. 3 Level)- Nanaimo, 21 yrs, single * Tellaro, Jubert(No. 5 Level)- Turino, Italy, 29 yrs, single * Thomas, James(No. 1 Level)- Wales, 35 yrs, single * Thompson, Joseph(No. 1 Level)- Peltonfell, Durham, England, 37 yrs, wife & 3 children * Thompson, John(New Slope)- Maryport, Cumberland, England, 32 yrs, single * Tulley, Frank(New Slope)- California, 28 yrs, left a wife & child * Watson, Joseph(No. 1 Level)- Weardale, Durham, England, 30 yrs, single * Westfeldt, John Henry(No. 3 Level)- Holland, 43 yrs, left a wife & 5 children * Wilkins, Edward(No. 1 Level)- Cowbridge, Glamorganshire, S. Wales, 26 yrs, single * Willis, Caton(New Slope)- St. Charles, Canada, 40 yrs, left a wife & 3 children * Woobank, John(No. 3 Level)- Leeds, Yorkshire, England, 41 yrs, left a wife & 2 children * Woobank, Copley(No. 3 Level)- Rothwell, Yorkshire, England, 18 yrs, son of John * Zermani, John(No. 5 Level)- Matte, Parma, Italy, 38 yrs, left a wife & 3 children *********************************************************************** If one of your ancestors was a coal miner on Vancouver Island, you may find evidence pertaining to him among a wealth of information on file at the Nanaimo Community Museum and Archives. The museum has built a life-size replica of a mining shaft into which visitors can descent and displays and personal artifacts donated by the families of miners. The upper floor archival holdings include mining company payroll books, accidents reports, maps and photos of coal mines and mining towns in the region. <http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Ebcvancou> back to the Vancouver Island GenWeb Project

Hi John, Thanks so much for this post. Lynn Bowen in her books regarding the earlier miners has made mention of this mutiny by the miners on board. I will find the book and send further info. Also I have this article from an earlier research: http://bcgenesis.uvic.ca/getDoc.htm?id=V55104.scx The images are clear and easily read penmanship. According to this dispatch,( Despatch to London Douglas to Grey, Sir George 6876, CO 305/6, p. 47; received 23 July) the barque Colinda, owned by Mr. Tomlin of London, was chartered by the Hudson’s Bay Company in 1853 to carry supplies and new emigrants to Victoria from London. Off the coast of Chile, the passengers of Colinda incited a mutiny and forced Captain John Powell Mills to anchor at the Port of Valdivia. The passengers were tried at Valparaiso and acquitted based on lack of evidence. They remained in Chile and refused to continue on under the command of Mills. Mills, who was also part owner of Colinda, sold much of the cargo owned by the Hudson’s Bay Company. He refused to pay the HBC in full for the undelivered goods and was arrested upon landing at Victoria. Colinda eventually returned to London under the command of James M Reid. Mills’ account of the incident can be found in this dispatch. He claims that Governor Douglas “seized the ‘Colinda’ in the Queens Name” and “converted [the ship] into a brothel for prostitutes and drunkards.” Douglas’ response to Mills’ complaints can be found in this dispatch. Mentions of this vessel in the documents Mentions of this vessel in the documents ◦24 November 1853 (CO / 305 / 4 / 96 / 738 / received 24 January 1854 / 10 / Executive) Colinda ◦6 September 1853 (CO / 305 / 4 / 272 / 9032 / received 7 September / Secret / Memo) Colinda ◦28 February 1854 (CO / 305 / 5 / 33 / 4064 / no received stamp / 6) Colinda ◦26 October 1854 (CO / 305 / 5 / 122 / 1917 / received 27 February 1855 / 41) Colinda, Colinda, Colinda, Colinda, Colinda ◦13 May 1855 (CO / 305 / 6 / 47 / 6876 / received 23 July / 4) Colinda, Colinda, Colinda, Colinda, Colinda, Colinda, Colinda, Colinda, Colinda, Colinda, Colinda, Colinda ◦9 January 1855 (CO / 305 / 6 / 313 / 276 / received 10 January) Colinda, Colinda, Colinda, Colinda ◦16 January 1855 (NAC / 229 / received 7 May 1955 / RG7 / G8C/1 / 9) Colinda -----Original Message----- From: ayrshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ayrshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Ferguson Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 1:49 PM To: ayrshire-l@rootsweb.com Subject: [AYR] EMIGRANT AYRSHIRE COAL MINERS - 1853 On August 4 1853 the British sailing ship Colinda left London headed for Fort Victoria, Vancouver Island. The Hudson's Bay Company sought to develop coal deposits on the island. Native people seemed lacking in the skills and attitudes required to mine coal so experienced miners from Ayrshire became the solution. The 43 miners, contracted in Kilmarnock, never arrived to Fort Victoria, as they abandoned ship in Valparaiso, Chile. Following four months at sea, a hard passage through the Straits of Magellan, deaths of children, and hunger, the passengers mutinied. The miners disembarked after their wives refused to sail any further, and promised to stay in Chile, with or without their husbands. These miners went on to contribute to the local Chilean coal industry. I am interested in finding out if any list member had heard of this voyage, and perhaps can add some more family detail to this unfortunate journey during which ten babies died. I do not have any more details other than what is listed here. Beveridge, David 21, wife & son 4 months Bowman, William 18, Dick, James 43, wife, 4 sons & 3 daughters ( I know this family did work at Nanaimo, B.C.) Ewart, Robert 26, wife, 1 son, 2 daughters & brother Frew, James 23, & wife Gilmour, John 28, wife, 2 sons Heron, Thomas 25, & wife Hunter, Andrew 49, wife, 3 sons & 2 daughters Kerr, John 43, wife, 3 sons & 1 daughter Little, Gilbert 22, wife & son 5 months (an ancestor on my mother's side of the family) McCullum, Archibald 30, wife, son & daughter McKie, William 27, wife, son & daughter McMurtrie, Thomas 24, wife & brother Muir, John 31, wife, son & daughter Nesbit, James 26, wife, son & daughter Pearson, Ralph 21, wife & son Reid, James 33, wife & 7 sons Seal, Francis 24, wife, son & daughter Shaw, David 30, wife & 4 sons Simpson, Adam 28, wife & 2 sons Smith, Thomas 27, wife, son & 3 daughters Sutherland, William 29, & wife Watt, Alexander 23, wife & son Wilson, Jacob 28, wife & daughter Wyllie, Robert 21, wife & daughter John Australia _________________________________________________________________ View photos of singles in your area! Looking for a hot date? http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Does anyone have a copy of or access to this book, authored by John Strawhorn and published in 1994? An article at Wikipedia cites this book for a statement, which I would like to confirm, to the effect that "the lairds of Lyne had a townhouse in Irvine as did many of the other lairds in Cunninghame". Loretta

Elaine Dunlop is about 3 or 4 kms from Stewarton. Do you know which Church they were married in Dunlop in 1824? I am THINKING that they may have been part/Sect of the Presbyterian Church which did not have a Church in Stewarton. Or lived between the two towns and for some reason - like liking the Minister at Dunlop compared to Stewarton - got married in Dunlop instead of their home town. Have you looked at those aspect? I have a copy of the "The Graves in Fenwich Church" but there are no Shields listed in the Index. So it would appear that these are unmarked graves of which there are plenty in this Churchyard. There are Wyllie's in the list but the Index only goes to the T's. Although there is an farm called Wyllieland which seems to have ahd a Gemmell family living there form the 1800's. Does anyone know if the Church has a list of "who owns what plot"?. Mike Boyd Brisbane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elaine Sharp" <bellemarco@gmail.com> To: <AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 3:28 AM Subject: [AYR] Wylliam Wyllie & Elisabeth Ryburn > Thank you, Ken. > Our William Shields came to the US ca 1849 following 2 of his Wyllie > cousins here. Later the rest of this Wyllie family came to the US and > lived in the same area as our William Shields. Using Scotlandspeople, > the closest William Shields I can find to ours , and I believe it is > him, was William Shields born Feb. 27, 1826, Stewarton, the son of > William Shields and Elisabeth Wyllie. I have found a marriage record, > 1824, for a William Shields, teacher, and Elisabeth Wyllie, who were > living in Stewarton but looks like married in Dunlop (there is "Do" so > I assume the same place couple above were married). I have spent the > 10 pounds and ordered this record hoping it might show who Elisabeth's > parents are as well as Williams parents and am awaiting this record. > I have also spent the rest of my monthly genealogy budget obtaining > other records from Scotlandspeople. Another interesting fact I found > is a Margaret Shields dau. of Wm Shields was buried in Fenwick 12/28/1826, > at age 15 months-- could she have been a sister of our William? Also > found > a Wm. Shields death in Upper Fenwick in 1835. Could this have been the > father of our William. In the 1825-26 Pigot & Co's Directory? of > Stewarton, there is listed under Schools - William Shields. > > Elaine > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Elaine Funny thing is that FamilySearch.org also has an Agnes Wylie (one L) born either 10/7/1766 at Riccarton OR 10/7/1776 at Riccarton with the parents listed as William Wylie and Elizabeth Raeburn. Entry was submitted by a member of the LDS Church and sometimes these entries are not very accurate - but many times they are. The problem with Scotland's people as I have found through my own research is that if you don't put in the exact spelling for the record you don't get a return. For example when I was researching my BROWN ancestors in the parish of Sorn - yeah I did find some of them with the spelling BROWN must missed out on the earlier ones that were spelled BROUN, BROWNE, BROUNE!! Until that is somebody told me about using wildcards. For example if you were to input WYL* (don't forget the asterisk) Then again your Elizabeth Ryburn may have been spelled Raeburn. One of my ancestors had a few kids in the parish of Galston and then they went to Kilmarnock and I expect a similar thing happened to your Wyllies/Wylies. Often back then people couldn't read or write and so the spelling of the name was left up to how the Church Officer of the Kirk spelled it. In two different parishes the name could be spelled differently. In fact in the SAME recording of one of my Brown ancestors the name was spelled BROUN and then BROUNE! Here's a trick for young players on Scotland's People. Try this: In surname put WYL* First name Leave blank Parent: William Wyl* Parent: Elizabeth R If that doesn't work then do the same but substitute Elizabeth R for Elisabeth R Don't choose a parish On the occasions I've got right it then brings up ALL the children of the parents that fit the input. Good Luck! Ken Brown

Yes, Jean - a good idea as Kay suggests to do the IGI before scotlandspeople. IGI takes and offers several spellings whereas with scotlandspeople you need to use * for alternatives or you only get exactly what you ask for. But once you find what you want on the IGI you can check scotlandspeople and also see the original documents if you want to - which can tell you things not shown on IGI. eg. on scotlandspeople for MacDonald use M*cDonald or even M*cDon* which would pick up MacDonald, McDonald and McDonnell. Good luck - 1706 is a long time ago! Mary

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I found an 1825 and 1837 Pigot's directory for Ayrshire. Are there any others in between these 2 years. William Shields is listed under Schools in 1825 but he is not listed under Academies and Schools in 1837. Thank you. Elaine

Dear Fellow List Members, If you have possibly had a coalminer lost in the latter years of the 1800's check through this petition dated 1892. Many familiar names associated with Ayrshire, including many of my own. Best regards, Linda Nordby http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~canbc/chinese.htm

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: brubach Surnames: Ferguson, Lusk, Reid, McBride, Stewart, McDonald, Earle, Burke, Brown Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/13989.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks for sharing! Looks like a different family, though. I've got: David Ferguson b. 1791 m. Agnes McDonald, maybe born in Wigtownshire, Kirkcolm (children: William, John*, Elizabeth and Jane) John Ferguson* b. 1834 in Monkton m. 1854 #1 Grace Earle b, 1833/34 in Maybole (children: Margueretta, Agnes, Elizabeth, David*, Robert, William, and John) John Ferguson b. 1834 m. #2 Marion Dunlop in 1870 she was born about 1840 (children: Marion or Mary, Jeanie, Hugh, James D., Matthew D., Archibald) David Ferguson* b. 1861 Kilbirnie m. Mary Reid b. 1864 Glengarnock in 1884 (children: Jane/Jean, John, Joseph Earl, William, William*, Grace E., Elizabeth and Rebecca.) William Ferguson* b. 1893 Glengarnock m. in 1911 Annie Lusk b. 1894 Dreghorn (children: David, Mary, Agnes, William Joseph, Paul James) Suzie Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Jean, try here first before spending at scotlands people! Batch numbers for Ayrshire http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers/CountyAyr.htm#S Find the batch number, click submit and you can browse the whole list without typing in any names! Great for finding any odd spellings. Kay McMeekin Ayrshire

Thank you, Ken. I did find that the Ryburn surname was spelled a few different ways including Raeburn. I also have sometimes seen the Shields surnames spelled Sheilds and a few other odd ones. All I know about our William Shields is that he is listed as a orphaned nephew in family letters to the children of John Wyllie/Janet Raeburn (1) John Wyllie/Marion Barclay (2) (I am not sure from which grandmother he was descended). Unfortunately, these letters do not give the names of William Shields parents and his US death, obit, marriage record do not give this info. In fact, it did not give where he was born in Scotland and thanks to a Wyllie family member I was given this information. So far, I have not found a daughter Elisabeth for this John Wyllie with either of his wives. The parents of John Wyllie are Matthew Wyllie and Janet Wyllie (same last name). Our William Shields came to the US ca 1849 following 2 of his Wyllie cousins here. Later the rest of this Wyllie family came to the US and lived in the same area as our William Shields. Using Scotlandspeople, the closest William Shields I can find to ours , and I believe it is him, was William Shields born Feb. 27, 1826, Stewarton, the son of William Shields and Elisabeth Wyllie. I have found a marriage record, 1824, for a William Shields, teacher, and Elisabeth Wyllie, who were living in Stewarton but looks like married in Dunlop (there is "Do" so I assume the same place couple above were married). I have spent the 10 pounds and ordered this record hoping it might show who Elisabeth's parents are as well as Williams parents and am awaiting this record. I have also spent the rest of my monthly genealogy budget obtaining other records from Scotlandspeople. Another interesting fact I found is a Margaret Shields dau. of Wm Shields was buried in Fenwick 12/28/1826, at age 15 months-- could she have been a sister of our William? Also found a Wm. Shields death in Upper Fenwick in 1835. Could this have been the father of our William. In the 1825-26 Pigot & Co's Directory? of Stewarton, there is listed under Schools - William Shields. I have checked the 1841 census, but I believe his both his parents were deceased at this time. I found a couple William Shields living with different families but I have no way of knowing which one is him. I have also checked FHC records. Elaine

Hi Jean Scotlands People is the place to see if there is a marriage www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk there will not be a record of banns or a licence as they wernt issued in Scotland at that time. There maybe a mention in the kirk session records for Sorn, some of these have been filmed by the LDS and can be ordered into a Family History library for you to go and view. Hope this helps Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean Bunch" <jeanbnch@pacbell.net> To: <Ayrshire-L@rootsweb.com> Cc: "Mike Boyd" <historian@clanboyd.org> Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 5:29 AM Subject: [AYR] Marriage Records > Are there any marriage records for 1706? My Ancestors were married in > Sorn. I would like any record of their bans or license, etc. Could you > tell me how to contact anyone who would have such records? Thank you, Jean > Bunch > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: rsqyoung Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/13989.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Please contact me off list, these folks below are on my tree. Do not seem to be same family though. Connected to troon family and Taylors rsqyoung @ blueyonder.co.uk Register Report for Thomas Fergusson Generation 1 1. Thomas Fergusson-1. Reference ID was 9768. Janet McCandlish. Reference ID was 9767. Thomas Fergusson and Janet McCandlish. They were married on 07 May 1834 in Straiton, Ayr, Scotland (IGI). They had 2 children. 2. i. David Fergusson. He was born on 04 Feb 1835 in Crosshill, Ayrshire. Christened on 25 Mar 1835 in Barr, Ayshire (IGI). He married Agnes Patterson. They were married on 17 Mar 1865 in Dundonald (IGI). Occupation on 31 Dec 1889 (Coal Trimmer (deceased)). Reference ID was 9638. ii. James Fergusson. He was born on 15 Oct 1836 in Barr, Ayshire (IGI). Christened on 03 Nov 1836 in Barr, Ayshire (IGI). Reference ID was 9769. Generation 2 2. David Fergusson-2 (Thomas Fergusson-1). He was born on 04 Feb 1835 in Crosshill, Ayrshire. Christened on 25 Mar 1835 in Barr, Ayshire (IGI). Occupation on 31 Dec 1889 (Coal Trimmer (deceased)). Reference ID was 9638. Notes for David Fergusson: General Notes: 1881 Census Dwelling: Portland St Census Place: Dundonald, Ayr, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203597 GRO Ref Volume 590-2 EnumDist 2 Page 22 Marr Age Sex Birthplace David FERGUSSON M 45 M Crosshill, Ayr, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Coal Trimmer Agnes FERGUSSON M 38 F Prestwick, Ayr, Scotland Rel: Wife Occ: Wife Alexander FERGUSSON U 13 M Troon, Ayr, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Half Time Scholar Ellen FERGUSSON 11 F Troon, Ayr, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Margret FERGUSSON 8 F Troon, Ayr, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Agnes FERGUSSON 5 F Troon, Ayr, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Rebecca FERGUSSON 10 m F Troon, Ayr, Scotland Rel: Daur Margret MC CRINDLE U 60 F Girvan, Ayr, Scotland Rel: Boarder Occ: Washerwoman Page 1 of 2 20 May 2010 08:55:36 Register Report for Thomas Fergusson Generation 2 (con't) Agnes Patterson. She was born 1843 in Prestwick. Reference ID was 9637. David Fergusson and Agnes Patterson. They were married on 17 Mar 1865 in Dundonald (IGI). They had 7 children. i. Jean Fergusson. Reference ID was 9763. ii. Alexander Fergusson. He was born on 11 Jan 1868 in Dundonald (IGI). Reference ID was 9765. iii. Helen Fergusson. She was born on 13 May 1870 in Dundonald (IGI). Residence on 31 Dec 1889 in 20 Barassie Street, Troon. Occupation on 31 Dec 1889 (White Seam Sewer). She married Robert Taylor. They were married on 31 Dec 1889 in Troon Ref 590/2 1. Address (Facts Pg) 1901 in Stewarts Land, Templehill Street. She died 1955. Reference ID was 9589. Burial in Troon Cemetery (Headstone). iv. Margaret Fergusson. She was born on 01 Jan 1873 in Dundonald (IGI). Reference ID was 9766. v. Agnes Fergusson. She was born 1876. She was also known as Nancy. Reference ID was 9764. vi. Rebecca Fergusson. She was born 1880. Reference ID was 9762. vii. James Fergusson. He was born on 24 Dec 1865 in Dundonald (IGI). Reference ID was 9770. Lindsay Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi Loretta, The short answer is The National Library of Scotland now houses that collection. See the details below... I suggest you contact them. If you google National Library of Scotland then click on Contact them link and enter your query. Just a point you may want to consider. There was no right way or wrong way of spelling names back then. It really depended on the writer so you may not achieve much even if you access the information you want Regards Judith ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "The National Library of Scotland is a relatively recent body, only formally established by Act of Parliament in 1925. Previously, Scotland's national deposit library was the Advocates Library belonging to the Faculty of Advocates. This was opened in 1689 and gained national library status in the 1710 Copyright Act, giving it the legal right to claim a copy of every book published in Great Britain. In the following centuries, the library added books and manuscripts to the collections by purchase as well as legal deposit, creating a national library in all but name. By the 1920s, the upkeep of such a major collection was too much for a private body, and, with an endowment of £100,000 provided by Sir Alexander Grant of Forres, the library's contents were presented to the nation. The National Library of Scotland was formally constituted by an Act of Parliament in 1925. Sir Alexander Grant gave a further £100,000 - making his combined donations the equivalent of around £6 million today - for a new library building to be constructed on George IV Bridge. Government funding was secured which matched Sir Alexander's donation." ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 10:11:10 -0400 > From: "Loretta Layman" <lynneage@h-o-l.com> > Subject: [AYR] Advocates' Library > To: <AYRSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <004501caf693$f8363d10$e8a2b730$@com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Does anyone know anything about the Advocates' Library in Edinburgh and > how > one can obtain either copies or transcripts of 13th century documents > supposedly on reposit there? In my research of Lynns of Ayrshire, I've > found citation to a 1244 grant and would like very much to know if the > person citing the grant correctly wrote certain names. Any advice or > suggestions would be appreciated. > > > > Loretta > > > > ------------------------------ __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5128 (20100519) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: brubach Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/13989.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Ann - David and Agnes Ferguson were in Monkton in 1841. In 1851, Agnes was a widow, and living in Monkton. She rode the post between Monkton and Troon. I think David was a grocer, but that is not totally confirmed. Their son John was first a banker for the coal mine, and then a railroad engineer. I can't find death records for either one, or a marriage record. Their children were: William, John, Elizabeth and Jane. Anything sound familiar? Thanks for writing! Suzie Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

interestingly a  Ferguson  family  lived in  post  Office  buildings  in  Stewarton  later  in  century..heather

Information on the Advocates' Library can be found here http://www.advocates.org.uk/library/index.html and their online catalogue here http://www.advocates.org.uk/library/catalogue.html Books etc can be made available through the National Library of Scotland, who may be able to supply photocopies. "The first point of contact for the members of the public interested in the Advocates library should be the Enquiries & Reference Services Division of the National Library of Scotland: Telephone: 0131 226 4531 Fax: 0131 466 2804 E-mail: enquiries@nls.uk For further information see: http://www.nls.uk:" Good luck with your search, Janet >> Does anyone know anything about the Advocates' Library in Edinburgh and >> how >> one can obtain either copies or transcripts of 13th century documents >> supposedly on reposit there? In my research of Lynns of Ayrshire, I've >> found citation to a 1244 grant and would like very much to know if the >> person citing the grant correctly wrote certain names. Any advice or >> suggestions would be appreciated. >> >> >> >> Loretta

Are there any marriage records for 1706? My Ancestors were married in Sorn. I would like any record of their bans or license, etc. Could you tell me how to contact anyone who would have such records? Thank you, Jean Bunch

Thanks to everyone for their very helpful replies. I've emailed the NLS, which as some of you pointed out now includes the Advocates Library. Regards, Loretta >> Does anyone know anything about the Advocates' Library in Edinburgh and >> how >> one can obtain either copies or transcripts of 13th century documents >> supposedly on reposit there? In my research of Lynns of Ayrshire, I've >> found citation to a 1244 grant and would like very much to know if the >> person citing the grant correctly wrote certain names. Any advice or >> suggestions would be appreciated. >> >> >> >> Loretta ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message