--- On Mon, 6/7/10, elvis rules <elvisrules@gmail.com> wrote: I am looking into a family and would like to request a census look up for 1841, 1851 and 1861. The family is: Andrew Gemmell m. Marion Broatfoot 1814 Muirkirk. To help find the family, here are their children, all born in Muirkirk: -John b. 1814 -Christian b. 1817 -Robert b. 1819 -Andrew b. 1822 -Alison b. 1824 -David b. 1827 -William b. 1829 -Thomas b. 1832 -Margaret Gibson b. 1834 Father Andrew died in Muirkirk in 1866 so I suspect he'll be in Muirkirk on all three censues. Tunji: I think this still works: http://www.freecen.org.uk/
Hi Louise and Irene, Thank you for your replies. Yes, I have now noticed there are other late entries in the same OPR - no doubt to tidy up the records.But my g-grandmother Margaret Morrison's baptism is not recorded anywhere at all that I can find, either at her birth or in 1854. According to a flimsy little note I have (probably written by my gg-grandfather or gg-grandmother) she was born 9th Sept 1831. The other dates on the note - of her siblings - agree with the OPRs so I presume hers is also correct. She lived to be 86 and was the oldest inhabitant of Auchinleck at her death and got a very nice mention in the paper - so she lived a long and meaningful life even if her birth/baptism was somehow not recorded! Thanks again, Mary
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> Page 97 > Delations > Alexr Hamilton John Wasoun Alexr Mongersland for drunknes James Broun in > wardlaw for blasphemie > Session Decemb 28 1654 > The whilk day Alexr Hamiltoun being somoned for too leat drinking and > drunknes was called and compeared not is ordained to be somoned pro > secundo > The whilk day John Wasoun being sumoned for both drinking and drunknes was > called and compeared confessing his scandalouse caredge in drinking and > feighting and incroaching on the saboth by stang till two hours in the > morning the session ordains him to acknowledge his sin from the publick > place before the congregation which he did > The whilk day James Broun in wardlaw being somoned for blasphamie was > called and compeared denying the blasphamie this referred to further > probation and he somoned apud acta to keep till nixt session day > The whilk day Alexr Mongersland being somoned for drunknes was called and > compeared denying the same it is referred to further probation > Delations > Adam Obeake and Jonate Smith for fornication > Session jannari 4 1655 > The whilk day Alexr Hamiltoune being somoned for drunknes and leat > drinking was called and compeared confessing the same the session finding > this to be his first fault in publick and that he seemed to be sensible of > his miscaredge did think fit to rebuke him for the present exhorting him > with all to more watchfullnes over his conversation > The whilk day James Broun in wardlaw being somoned for blasphamie was > called and compeared denying the same the mater being referred to > probation the witneses depones first Johne Thomsonn skinner depones that > he hard James Broun say I have counted on the Lord over buy and I will not > wait any longer and also said that god wer more obledgt to him than he wer > to god, Johne Toreance depons that he hard James Broun say he had waited > on god a year and he would wait no longer he had now gottene a new lygt > and god was also much in his common as he was in his the session finding > his blasphamie proven referd him to the presbytrie for his sensure > The whilk day Alexr Mongersland being somoned for drunknes was called and > compeared not is ordained to be somoned pro tertio. > >
Hello List, Two of my gg-uncles, Murdoch and David Morrison, appear in the Auchinleck OPR baptisms for 1854. Murdoch was born 1837 and David 1840 and for each it gives birth dates followed by 'baptized by James Chrystal'. Does this mean they were baptized at birth (maybe in a different church) but entered in the OPR several years later or were they not baptized until 1854? Two older siblings seem to have been baptised in 1825 and 1829 but others don't appear at all. Dr Chrystal was there for a long time wasn't he? Best wishes, Mary
Page 97 Delations Alexr Hamilton John Wasoun Alexr Mongersland for drunknes James Broun in wardlaw for blasphemie Session Decemb 28 1654 The whilk day Alexr Hamiltoun being somoned for too leat drinking and drunknes was called and compeared not is ordained to be somoned pro secundo The whilk day John Wasoun being sumoned for both drinking and drunknes was called and compeared confessing his scandalouse caredge in drinking and feighting and incroaching on the saboth by stang till two hours in the morning the session ordains him to acknowledge his sin from the publick place before the congregation which he did The whilk day James Broun in wardlaw being somoned for blasphamie was called and compeared denying the blasphamie this referred to further probation and he somoned apud acta to keep till nixt session day The whilk day Alexr Mongersland being somoned for drunknes was called and compeared denying the same it is referred to further probation Delations Adam Obeake and Jonate Smith for fornication Session jannari 4 1655 The whilk day Alexr Hamiltoune being somoned for drunknes and leat drinking was called and compeared confessing the same the session finding this to be his first fault in publick and that he seemed to be sensible of his miscaredge did think fit to rebuke him for the present exhorting him with all to more watchfullnes over his conversation The whilk day James Broun in wardlaw being somoned for blasphamie was called and compeared denying the same the mater being referred to probation the witneses depones first Johne Thomsonn skinner depones that he hard James Broun say I have counted on the Lord over buy and I will not wait any longer and also said that god wer more obledgt to him than he wer to god, Johne Toreance depons that he hard James Broun say he had waited on god a year and he would wait no longer he had now gottene a new lygt and god was also much in his common as he was in his the session finding his blasphamie proven referd him to the presbytrie for his sensure The whilk day Alexr Mongersland being somoned for drunknes was called and compeared not is ordained to be somoned pro tertio.
Page 97 Delations Alexr Hamilton John Wasoun Alexr Mongersland for drunknes James Broun in wardlaw for blasphemie Session Decemb 28 1654 The whilk day Alexr Hamiltoun being somoned for too leat drinking and drunknes was called and compeared not is ordained to be somoned pro secundo The whilk day John Wasoun being sumoned for both drinking and drunknes was called and compeared confessing his scandalouse caredge in drinking and feighting and incroaching on the saboth by stang till two hours in the morning the session ordains him to acknowledge his sin from the publick place before the congregation which he did The whilk day James Broun in wardlaw being somoned for blasphamie was called and compeared denying the blasphamie this referred to further probation and he somoned apud acta to keep till nixt session day The whilk day Alexr Mongersland being somoned for drunknes was called and compeared denying the same it is referred to further probation Delations Adam Obeake and Jonate Smith for fornication Session jannari 4 1655 The whilk day Alexr Hamiltoune being somoned for drunknes and leat drinking was called and compeared confessing the same the session finding this to be his first fault in publick and that he seemed to be sensible of his miscaredge did think fit to rebuke him for the present exhorting him with all to more watchfullnes over his conversation The whilk day James Broun in wardlaw being somoned for blasphamie was called and compeared denying the same the mater being referred to probation the witneses depones first Johne Thomsonn skinner depones that he hard James Broun say I have counted on the Lord over buy and I will not wait any longer and also said that god wer more obledgt to him than he wer to god, Johne Toreance depons that he hard James Broun say he had waited on god a year and he would wait no longer he had now gottene a new lygt and god was also much in his common as he was in his the session finding his blasphamie proven referd him to the presbytrie for his sensure The whilk day Alexr Mongersland being somoned for drunknes was called and compeared not is ordained to be somoned pro tertio.
I am trying to trace the family of John Stinson/Stevenson who married Agnes Carsell/Carswell on 10th August 1761 in Stewarton, Ayr. Their scanned parish register entry for the marriage is of poor quality but they are listed on Scotland's People and the IGI as John Stinson and Agnes Carsell. John is listed as being of Whit... They are both listed as being "of this parish". The IGI lists them as John Stevenson and Agness Carswell for the baptisms of their children: - Thomas Stevenson, Christening: 15 JUL 1762 Stewarton, Ayr - John Stevenson, Christening: 15 JUN 1764 Stewarton, Ayr - Robert Stevenson, Christening: 15 NOV 1767 Stewarton, Ayr - Margaret Stevenson, Born C1762 Stewarton, Ayr (1851 census); Christening: 11 FEB 1770 Stewarton, Ayr; married John Dunlop 10 May 1808 Stewarton, Ayr - Agness Stevenson, Christening: 12 JUL 1771 Stewarton, Ayr - Agness Stevenson, Christening: 12 JUL 1772 Stewarton, Ayr - Mary Stevenson, born 1774 Stewarton Ayr (1841 census); Christening: 27 MAR 1774 Stewarton, Ayr; died 1841 - 1851; married William Aitchison 10 Mar 1797 Glasgow Lanark. I was able to find the baptisms of Margaret & Mary on Scotland's People. The image of the baptism entry reads "John Stnison of Wit[lie?] and Agness Carsell.." and Mary's entry reads "John Stinson portioner in Whit[lie?] [half cut off word ending in d] Agness Carsell." Can anyone help me with where or what Whitlie is? I'm assuming that this might be the property owned by John. I can't find any likely births for either John or Agnes under either surname so would appreciate assistance with these. Would also love to hear from anyone else connected with this family Regards, Andrea Fitzgerald In Melbourne, Australia
> > Alternatively the family may not have been able to afford to record the > event at the time, and have paid for an entry later on. > > There was no charge for recording baptisms in the 1800s. There was a brief period in the 1780s when there was a charge but it proved so unpopular it was discontinued. Irene
They may have been baptised at birth (at this church or another) but if there's no record there's no proof of this. You do find that some Parishes updated the books just before civil registration came it, so that some baptism (and possibly other) records are dated many years after the event may actually have taken place. Further examination of the records for this church may reveal a sudden peak in recording. Alternatively the family may not have been able to afford to record the event at the time, and have paid for an entry later on. Louise On 6 June 2010 10:25, Mary Paton <em.paton86@iinet.net.au> wrote: > Hello List, > > Two of my gg-uncles, Murdoch and David Morrison, appear in the > Auchinleck OPR baptisms for 1854. Murdoch was born 1837 and David > 1840 and for each it gives birth dates followed by 'baptized by James > Chrystal'. > > Does this mean they were baptized at birth (maybe in a different > church) but entered in the OPR several years later or were they not > baptized until 1854? Two older siblings seem to have been baptised in > 1825 and 1829 but others don't appear at all. > > Dr Chrystal was there for a long time wasn't he? > > Best wishes, > Mary > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Hello, That is definitely my John Gemmel, the names match perfectly, thank you! One last question, are there any Gemmell inscriptions of people who be parents or siblings to John Gemmell? Tunji On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 10:23 PM, Janet Smith <jmc.smith@waitrose.com> wrote: > Hello, > > In Muirkirk Churchyard there is this stone: > > Erected by son Andrew in memory of John Gemmel died 15.5.1808 aged 46, > children John, David & Janet died in infancy. > > This is not the exact wording on the stone; they were noted in an > abbreviated form. No mention of Agnes Wilson on the stone but it may be a > possibility. You might know by checking the childrens names that you have. > > Janet > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: laurencemclaren Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/13996.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Kevin the date is 4th march 1825, in the 1841 it said they were all born in Ayrshire but I can't find a birth for James there. good luck with your research Laurie Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
Hello, In Muirkirk Churchyard there is this stone: Erected by son Andrew in memory of John Gemmel died 15.5.1808 aged 46, children John, David & Janet died in infancy. This is not the exact wording on the stone; they were noted in an abbreviated form. No mention of Agnes Wilson on the stone but it may be a possibility. You might know by checking the childrens names that you have. Janet
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kevinpas Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/13996.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Fantastic! I didn't know until now what town they were from, only the general area. Thank you!! One question... is the 4/3/1825 marriage date in European format (March 4, 1825) or American format (April 3, 1825)? Thanks again, Kevin Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
ED: Cuninghame Poorhouse Registration Number: 595 Registration district: Irvine Civil parish: Irvine County: Ayrshire Address: Irvine Moor Household schedule number: 1 Line: 4 Roll: CSSCT1871_110 Household Members: Name Age Peter Murchie 29 John Humphrey 55 Henry Johnstone 50 Hugh Smith 44 William Shield 40 James Boyd 45 Joseph Spence 28 Robert Parker 64 William Gardner 71 Robert Alexander 37 David Watt 32 Hugh Montgomery 16 John Dunlop 50 Robert Dunlop 39 James Fullerton 63 James Martin 67 William Girdwood 48 William Howie 60 William Hunter 39 Ninian Murchie 30 Matthew Gavine 28 Thomas Young 60 Thomas Domigan 29 William Auld 9 Margaret Armour 72 Catherine Gemmell 68 Margaret Shawellar Creedie 71 Catherine Mcneish Mckelvie 80 Bridget Dewitt Mulherron 508608> 40 Margaret Graham 84 Margaret Campbell Montgomery 57 Margaret Riggs Rowan 78 Jean Clair Oswald 75 Margaret Mcewan Mcgivern 76 Jean Mcconnel Boyle 90 Jean Henderson Greig 86 Jean Hogarth 70 Ann Paton Porter 70 Jean Stevenson 65 Margaret Gilsoner Laird 76 Francis Farroll Reenan 78 Rosa McKinnon Mechan 70 Sarah Muir Connor 73 Elizabeth Duff Develin 75 Margaret Muir 88 Elizabeth Mcclatchie 37 Mary Miller Muir 79 Helen Connor 29 Magdalene Ritchie 62 Euphemia Mccullock 86 Bridget Burns Piers 72 Mary Ann Steel 40 Mary Ann Whitefield 40 Marion Porteon McConochy 62 Magdalena Thomson Pattison 50 Helen Smith 42 Jean Maurs 28 Annie Maurs 2 Janet Hall 34 Margaret Hall 6 Mo Robert Hall 13 Margaret Ritchie Mckinlay 39 Marion Mckinley 7 John Mckinlay 1 Agnes Imrie 26 Alexander Imrie 5 Robert Imrie 1 Elizabeth Donaldson 19 Agnes Donaldson 8 Mo Catherine McConsaik McBean 43 Catherine Craig Lewis 31 Helen Lewis 10 James Lewis 6 William Craig 10 Mo Christina Murray Murdock 24 David Murray 4 John Murray 1 1/2 Jean Howie 49 Elizabeth Watson Fisher 23 William John Fisher 1 Robert Fisher 3 Barbara Mccay 22 Jessie Turner 18 Margaret Thomson Martin 49 Jean Crawford 40 Ann Ramage 50 Betsy Long Mccoll 47 Elizabeth Barclay Campbell 68 Jean Muir Watson 44 Catherine Charter Wallace 45 Duncan Mcneil 8 Robert Mcneil 6 Mary Dunn Baxter 80 Elizabeth Mcwhinnie 63 Mary Robertson 20 Catherine Barclay 40 Elizabeth Buchanan Spence 35 Elizabeth Docherty Wilson 57 Sarah Garven 50 Margaret Reid Orr 53
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: laurencemclaren Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/13996.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Kevin Can't find a birth for James and Margaret but in the 1841 James is 40 and Margaret 36, also their children are, James 16, William 14, Samuel 12, Robert 10, Margaret 8 and John 5, all born in Ayr, the family are living at Catrine Ford Street, Catrine. parish of Sor. also a marriage for James and margaret, 4/3/1825, Sorn, Ayr. hope this helps Laurie Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
Hello, I think Anne Geddes has access to the Muirkirk MIs and that this would still be her email address. <mailto:Anne.Geddes@east-ayrshire.gov.uk>Anne.Geddes@east-ayrshire.gov.uk She is very helpful so if you send her a lookup request she would normally reply within a few days. Best wishes, Mary At 07:24 PM 4/06/2010, you wrote: >I am new to this board. Recently finding connections to the Gemmell >family from Muirkirk, this is my first link to Ayrshire, most of my >family hailing from East Scotland. >I was hoping to request a look up for Gemmells dying/interred in >Muirkirk pre-1855 , more specifically John Gemmell and wife Agnes >Wilson who married circa 1787 and had their last child in 1808. I >checked and found out that the Muirkirk OPR deaths only go up until >1800, so while the couple would have died after that, there may have >been children of them who died before. There could also be a grave >that mentions the couple.
HI Judy, Thanks for mentioning this - I am puzzled by it. Does it simply mean that if we left credits for over 90 days on a single occasion we can get them back - but only that once and never again? I usually use all my credits in much less than 90 days but thought that even if I did leave, say 3 credits, beyond 90 days then as soon as I recharge my account with another 30 credits I'd have 33. Is that not so? >"All customers who have existing credits can now use the free >voucher code SCOTLANDSPEOPLE which will re-set the credit expiry to >90 days in their >account. Customers may use this voucher any time until 1.00p.m. >Thursday 17th June 2010. The voucher may only be used once in each account." I hope they wouldn't just eat up our extra money! Thanks for any light on this. Best regards, Mary
--- On Sat, 5/6/10, Heather Grimwood <heather.grimwood@xtra.co.nz> wrote: From: Heather Grimwood <heather.grimwood@xtra.co.nz> Subject: BROWN / HOWIE / HUTCHINSON To: ayrshire_L@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, 5 June, 2010, 8:45 PM Alexander BROWN and Anne HOWIE had at least these children in Kilmarnock: John Howie 1844, Ann Hutchinson, 1845, and Nicol 1848. The "Nicol" would indicate connection with the BROWNS of Galston / Loudon area who had business connections in Glasgow. I am interested in the "Hutchinson" connection, as my great -uncle John Alexander BROWN a mason of Stewarton visited a Hutchinson family while on a visit to Canada possibly early 1900's though could have been up to 1920 /21. I have searched for decades for ancestry of "my" BROWNS, and have a feeling they might have originated in Galston / Loudon area. The earliest I can prove is James b Stewarton who m Elizabeth MACFARLANE b Tyree at Stewarton, 1800, but banns were also called at Riccarton her parish at that time. Two sets of parents suit James' date of birth...Thomas BROWN a cooper later a merchant of Stewarton and Jean MONTGOMERY and James BROWN and Mary BUNTEN of Riccarton. ( I know there were BUNTENS in the Fenwick area. So if anyone recognises that HUTCHINSON / BROWN connection, even if it is through the HOWIE'S I would be delighted.....Heather
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