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    1. Re: [AYR] alexander white
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: we4r_1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14360.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: this is most wonderful. Thank you very much! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    03/27/2013 01:38:11
    1. Re: [AYR] alexander white
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: 51738 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14360.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: He was right. Descendants of William WHITE Generation No. 1 1. WILLIAM1 WHITE was born 1842 in Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland Re 1881 Census. He married CAROLINE WALLACE 20 Nov 1863 in High Church, Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland, daughter of ARCHIBALD WALLACE and JEAN YOUNG. She was born 1844 in Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland Re 1881 Census, and died 1884 in Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland Re SRO. More About WILLIAM WHITE: Occupation: Apr 1881, Porter at 2 Mossvale Lane, Paisley More About CAROLINE WALLACE: Fact: Apr 1881, On Census as Carroline age 37 Children of WILLIAM WHITE and CAROLINE WALLACE are: i. WILLIAM2 WHITE, b. 1863, Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland Re 1881 Census. ii. ARCHIBALD WHITE, b. 23 Apr 1865, Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland. iii. JOHN WHITE, b. 17 Feb 1867, Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland. iv. JEANIE YOUNG WHITE, b. 17 Oct 1868, Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland. v. JOHN WHITE, b. 25 Sep 1870, Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland. vi. AGNES WHITE, b. 01 Jun 1872, Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland. vii. ALEXANDER WHITE, b. 1877, Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland Re 1881 Census; d. Bef. 1884, Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland Re 1881 Census. viii. MARGARET WHITE, b. 08 Jul 1881, Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland. ix. ALEXANDER WHITE, b. 1884, Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland Re SRO. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    03/27/2013 01:32:41
    1. Re: [AYR] alexander white
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: we4r_1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14360.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: he put that info on his marriage licence the one here in canada, he put that his dad was william and his mum Karolina WALLACE. Dad was william white and mum karolina wallace. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    03/27/2013 11:32:23
    1. Re: [AYR] alexander white
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: NutmegGreenwood Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14360.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: If you can't find anything on Alexander WHITE..father was William WHITE, mother was Karoline [unknown surname]....how do you know he was born 1885 in Paisley ? Family records ? Birth Registration of a descendant ? Census information ? There are many WHITEs born in Scotland and Alexander is quite common as a given name. I will check the INDEXes for Births in Scotland for 1885 and post if there is one born Paisley. Watch this space...... MegG in OKlahoma USA Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    03/27/2013 11:23:08
    1. [AYR] alexander white
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: we4r_1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14360/mb.ashx Message Board Post: 1885 born in paisley, scotland, dad was william and mum was Karolina or Karoline. Moved somehow to canada , by himself? had a twin sister. ended up in brockville Ontario canada. Cannot find anything on the mum or dad or him even being born.Can anyone help Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    03/27/2013 11:16:32
    1. Re: [AYR] Annick Lodge, Location please?
    2. Loretta Layman
    3. Today's Annick Lodge is situated in roughly the middle of an estate which bore the same name. Some old Scottish estates became villages owing to the fact that estate owners hired people to live on and care for the property. Here's an article about the estate - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annick_Lodge_and_Greenville. Being that it's a Wikipedia article, you should try to verify the information by the references listed at the end of the article. However, there are also references to the estate of Annick Lodge at the website of the National Archives of Scotland. Go here - http://www.nas.gov.uk/onlineCatalogue/ - and search for Annick Lodge. You may want to limit the search to exclude the period after your relatives would have lived there. A couple of the Archives extracts confirm that the estate was owned by the Montgomeries at least as early as 1801. Loretta (Lynn) Layman -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 4:24 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AYR] Annick Lodge, Location please? This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: tonypearce7 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/13920.3 .1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Andrew I was at Annick Lodge today and spoke to the owner. I believe relatives of mine lived at Annick Lodge but now believe it was Annick Lodge village. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    03/27/2013 11:10:15
    1. Re: [AYR] Looking for more info of the McFARLANE family in
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: 2_mcbobby Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14060.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Brendan. When they arrived from Scotland they had 3 children, Robert, Elizabeth and Janet,our 2 times great grandparents had 7 more children after they had settled. However, Robert's mother was an Elizabeth Curlet,Not Susan Ann Mckie Macfarlane, it seems that Daniel had a bit of a fling with a house maid which did not go down too well in the parish church as Elizabeth Curlet was 25 and that would have made our 2 time great Grandfather only 19. All of the other 9children were only half brothers and sisters. Robert ( Bob ) Mcfarlane. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    03/27/2013 08:43:34
    1. Re: [AYR] alexander white
    2. Eleanor Haggarty
    3. Name: W._W White Spouse's Name: Caroline Wallace Event Date: 20 Nov 1863 Event Place: High Church,Paisley,Renfrew,Scotland ndexing Project (Batch) Number: M11573-1 System Origin: Scotland-ODM GS Film number: 6035516 -------------------------------------------------- From: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 1:32 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AYR] alexander white > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: we4r_1 > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14360.1.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > he put that info on his marriage licence the one here in canada, he put > that his dad was william and his mum Karolina WALLACE. Dad was william > white and mum karolina wallace. > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    03/27/2013 08:15:00
    1. Re: [AYR] Johnson,Downie search
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: BaWalsh53 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/1189.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I just found your post.I hope you are still around.I believe Robert Johnson died about 1872 in Table Cape Tasmania.Janet/Jennett remarried and died in country Victoria in 1891.Please get back to me ASAP. regards Barbara Walsh Victoria Australia Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    03/27/2013 02:12:41
    1. [AYR] Re; Burnhouse
    2. Possibly just a piece of useless information, however just to say that there is a Burnhouse Ladies Curling Club and they play out of Greenacres Curling Venue.   Mary

    03/26/2013 08:46:00
    1. Re: [AYR] Burnhouse
    2. Robert Struthers
    3. Hello Lance, The Burnside you visited is about 11 miles north-west of Galston. Looking at the old maps, it doesn't seem to have been a farm, although there are certainly other farms in the vicinity. There is, or was, a Burnhouse near Galston, about half-a-mile south east, and is identified on old maps as a sawmill. Regards, Robert Struthers > Hello Listers, > > I visited Burnhouse “Village” in April, 1993 searching for > ancestors while visiting Scotland. This Burnhouse was located in > Beith parish and situated at the crossroads of highways A736 and B706. > Is this in Galston? It was really a hamlet, but it was referred to > locally as Burnhouse Village probably because of earlier more > productive years. My great, great grandparents and my great > grandparents lived here as noted in the 1871 census, until my great > grandparents emigrated to Ontario, Canada in !873. These ancestors > were usually referred to as “agricultural labourers” and I have > always thought that they must have lived in Burnhouse and worked on > nearby farms. > > I found a community of about twenty buildings at most. There was a > Caravan shop which was the most enterprising building in town. We met > up with Robert and Mary Wilson on the same main street. He was a > contractor. Mary’s mother had been a McCluskie, but we were unable > to ever find any connection with out ancestors. > > I have joined this discussion with the hopes that I may learn more > about the possibility of Burnhouse being some kind of a farm. Thank > you Kay in Edinburgh. > > Lance McCluskie, > Ontario, Canada > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    03/26/2013 07:41:53
    1. Re: [AYR] AYRSHIRE Digest, Vol 8, Issue 62
    2. Terese
    3. Hi Nancy, Could you tell me more about the time period and family of Catherine Wylie? I descend from Dorothy Wylie who was married to Robert Harris. They moved from Ayrshire to Donegal Ireland in the 1600's. She was probably born circa 1665. Robert Harris was the son of Edward Harris and Flora Douglas of the border clan, but we don't know Dorothy's parents. Thanks, Terese Mitchell -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 3:00 AM To: [email protected] Subject: AYRSHIRE Digest, Vol 8, Issue 62 Today's Topics: 1. Re: Family Roots ([email protected]) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 20:06:00 -0000 From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AYR] Family Roots To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: capecodnad Surnames: Osborne, Wylie Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/307.361 4.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, Michael, My husband is descendant from William Osborne and Catherine Wylie from Kilmarnock, Ayrshire, Scotland. We are visiting there in June 2013. Can you tell be about your Osborne line? Regards, Nancy A. Daniels Cape Cod, MA USA [email protected] Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------ To contact the AYRSHIRE list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the AYRSHIRE mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of AYRSHIRE Digest, Vol 8, Issue 62 ***************************************

    03/25/2013 08:30:36
    1. Re: [AYR] McTaggart, Edward
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: marlenejoan Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/1508.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi I do not belong to Ancestry and was not able to send you an email. I posted an entry for Sellwood [as did Viv Sellwood]in The Gympie Pioneer Register. I was No 44 BUT they did not include my name or address! My email address is [email protected] I grew up in Gympie and now live at Burrum Heads. My McTaggart families still live in Gympie Regards Marlene Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    03/25/2013 04:52:01
    1. Re: [AYR] McTaggart, Edward
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cselwood1 Surnames: Selwood, McTaggart, McEwan Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/1508.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Edward Selwood was my Great, Great Grandfather (Married Edward McTaggart's daughter, Mary). I've never found a record of them returning to Scotland - but I also wasn't aware of Ellen's second husband? I have found a useful tool for the Gympie Cemetery where you can search for positions of graves online. I found Edward & Mary's son, Thomas' grave, I went to have a look for Edward & Ellen (Helen's), but its not letting me in right now, please have a look: http://www.gympiecemeterytrust.com.au/index.php/research/deceased-search Another good place to have a look at the details of this line is on sellwood.info, it was put together by Viv Sellwood and traces through the families complete with stories and photos (there are none of Edward & Ellen, but a couple of Mary McTaggart. Feel free to also look at my tree as I have some more photos. I have traced Patrick back to Ireland, there were a few Prodestant McTaggarts in Ayrshire that originally hailed from Islay, but also a family that came across from Cork, in Ireland, this time a Catholic family. I definitely found a Patrick McTaggart from Maybole that fits this description, and had a son called Edward, and a Granddaughter named Mary. However,I have not yet been able to find a definite connection to say they are the same person. Feel free to drop me a line. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    03/25/2013 04:24:50
    1. Re: [AYR] William Rainey
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: rainey3999 Surnames: Rainey's Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/1898.2.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Yes I would like more Inf. on William Rainey born 1565 in Ayrshire,Scotland. I just went on www.luciefield.net,and there was a lot about the Descendants of William Rainey 1565,but couldn't find anything on his wife? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    03/25/2013 01:33:28
    1. Re: [AYR] Peter McCallum 1783
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: beausoleilh Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/3730.3735/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Peter McCallum, b. @ 1788 in Scotland, died 1866 in Oro Township, Simcoe County, Ontario. His wife was, Mary Ann Robertson, [email protected] 1792, Scotland, died Sept. 26, 1830 Falkirk, Scotland. They married May 8, 1804 in Falkirk Scotland. My only connection is the the McLean family that they married into. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    03/25/2013 12:11:03
    1. [AYR] Burnhouse
    2. Lance McCluskie
    3. Hello Listers, I visited Burnhouse “Village” in April, 1993 searching for ancestors while visiting Scotland. This Burnhouse was located in Beith parish and situated at the crossroads of highways A736 and B706. Is this in Galston? It was really a hamlet, but it was referred to locally as Burnhouse Village probably because of earlier more productive years. My great, great grandparents and my great grandparents lived here as noted in the 1871 census, until my great grandparents emigrated to Ontario, Canada in !873. These ancestors were usually referred to as “agricultural labourers” and I have always thought that they must have lived in Burnhouse and worked on nearby farms. I found a community of about twenty buildings at most. There was a Caravan shop which was the most enterprising building in town. We met up with Robert and Mary Wilson on the same main street. He was a contractor. Mary’s mother had been a McCluskie, but we were unable to ever find any connection with out ancestors. I have joined this discussion with the hopes that I may learn more about the possibility of Burnhouse being some kind of a farm. Thank you Kay in Edinburgh. Lance McCluskie, Ontario, Canada

    03/25/2013 11:55:10
    1. Re: [AYR] John MURRAY residing Burnhouse, Galston
    2. JK Williams
    3. Dear Friends, Meg Greenwood asks: "How large an area might 'BURNHOUSE' in Galston have been in its earlier days ? Google maps shows an irregularly shaped area with an X over one of the 2 dozen rooftops. I doubt this one house is 'Burnhouse', must be the area is called that. Am wanting to understand if Burnhouse had many residences or just a few, MURRAYs are hard to find and properly identify if the area is large." And Linda Norby points to a website mentioning 'Laigh Burnhouse'. This suggests Burnhouse may have been a fermtoun of some sort in the early 1700s and was enclosed during the eighteenth century to become more than one farm. Examples can be found all over Scotland of these divisions - such as laigh or low and high (e.g. High Pinmore and Low Pinmore), easter and wester, old and new, meikle or muckle (large or greater) and lesser, upper and nether (lower). By the mid-nineteenth century many of these would probably be distinct separate farms with a farmhouse and cottages and/or a bothy for employees - identifiable on early OS maps. Sometimes a small group of cottages in a hamlet remained after enclosure. Using the Old Statistical Account, Tom Devine argues in his 1994 book 'The Transformation of Rural Scotland' that by the 1790s enclosure was quite advanced in Ayrshire (pub John Donald, p 52). You might want to take a look at the statistical accounts for the relevant parishes. http://edina.ac.uk/stat-acc-scot/ Prof Charles Withers has written about these sources here: http://edina.ac.uk/stat-acc-scot/reading/intro.shtml This change in land organisation was part of a period of transformation, increased agricultural efficiency and increased production during which many Ayrshire farms came to specialise in dairy cattle (developing the brown and white Ayrshire breed) and dairy produce for the industrialised villages and towns (and once the railways were in place, for Glasgow). I didn't spot Burnhouse on the Roy map of 1752-55 (lowlands), but this doesn't mean it wasn't there http://maps.nls.uk/geo/roy/ It looks as if the Loudon estate was prominent in this area at that time as was Cessnock Tower. Burnhouse does appear on the 1860 first edition of the 6 inch OS (Ayrshire sheet XXIV). It has an old coal pit and a saw mill marked, so appears to be a small village. If you look at the neighbouring sheet there is Burnhousehill - a distinct farm (Ayrshire XXIII). I didn't manage to find the present day High Burnhouse (the livery yard) on the early OS map or the current one. The current OS 1:25,000 map shows only Burnhousehill and Burnhouse. The NLS maps are always worth browsing http://maps.nls.uk/index.html A helpful reference work on Scottish place names is the OS's 'Guide to Scots origins of place names in Britain' available from: http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/oswebsite/freefun/didyouknow/placenames/index.html as a pdf. Burn is a word for a stream - so Burnhouse is quite a common name in Scotland as is Burnfoot. Best wishes and happy researching, Kay Edinburgh

    03/25/2013 04:40:45
    1. [AYR] Ordnance Survey Names Book lookup
    2. Kerrie
    3. Hi Would anyone have a subscription to the Ordnance Survey Names Book on Scotlands Places and could do a lookup for me please? The place I would like to be looked up is Garlaff T.P. in Ayrshire. Many thanks Kerrie [email protected]

    03/24/2013 07:45:20
    1. Re: [AYR] John MURRAY residing Burnhouse, Galston
    2. Mike Boyd
    3. Meg "Burnhouse" appears on the south side of Galston as a farm. This is form Phillips Ayrshire Street Atlas. I could not see any streets starting with "Blad?" and suspect that this street may have disappeared after the railway was closed. So you may need to contact the East Ayrshire Council to see, it they or the Burns Centre Library can help you. Mike Boyd Brisbane -----Original Message----- From: Meg Greenwood {[email protected]} Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 12:45 PM To: List - Scotland - Ayrshire Subject: [AYR] John MURRAY residing Burnhouse, Galston How large an area might 'BURNHOUSE' in Galston have been in its earlier days ? Google maps shows an irregularly shaped area with an X over one of the 2 dozen rooftops. I doubt this one house is 'Burnhouse', must be the area is called that. Am wanting to understand if Burnhouse had many residences or just a few, MURRAYs are hard to find and properly identify if the area is large. Was it as large back in 1921 when this Death was recorded ? Am looking at the INFORMANT, John MURRAY residing Burnhouse, Galston. That reference is in the last line of the Death Registration below.....John [the Informant] was a brother of the William MURRAY whose wife was Mary MATTHEWS given as parents of the deceased in this 1921 Death. John had wed Sarah McLAUCHLAN in Kirkmaiden, Wigtownshire in 1870. John and Sarah may have taken in the small children of William MURRAY and Mary [MATTHEWS] who both died in Carlisle, late 1887. Or the family who took in the orphaned children could be the Robert Kelly MURRAY whose death follows..... ================= 1921 Deaths, Kilmarnock entry #15. Robert Kelly MURRAY, Railway Yardman, married to Jane AIRD. Died Jan 12, 1921 at the Kilmarnock Infirmary, usual residence 240 Blak? Railway Buildings, Hurlford aged 41. Parents were William MURRAY, Locomotive Driver deceased & Mary MATTHEWS deceased. Informant was John MURRAY, Uncle, Burnhouse, Galston. After his wife, Sarah McLAUCHLAN died in 1903, John MURRAY remarried in 1906 to Margaret McMURRAY. They had 3 children, Lily MURRAY born 1900, Gilbert MURRAY born 1908 and Andrew MURRAY born 1915. I find one MURRAY family at Burnhouse in the 1911 Census but family details don't fit as they should. John is the Head of the family and the wife being Margaret, there is a son, Robert age 3 on the 1911 Census, we can't yet find his circa 1908 birth. There IS a GILBERT born November 1907 to this couple. Is this Robert age 3 an Enumerator mistake and should be a GILBERT ? There is no name correction on the Birth Registration. Meg Greenwood / Oklahoma USA ================= =============================================== ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    03/24/2013 07:17:11