This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: asutherland74 Surnames: Fenwick and Orange Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14373/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Looking for information about William and Sarah Fenwick, birthdates, parents, siblings etc. William was born ca 1849 in Morpeth, Northumberland, he was a gardener. Together with Sarah, he had a daughter called Hannah Orange Fenwick (unsure where the Orange name comes from), born in 1872. In the Census of 1881, William was a widower, so Sarah died sometime between 1872 and 1881. I do not know anything more about Sarah. I have found William and Hannah in the 1891 Census also, but have not found him after that. Any help is greatly appreciated. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

List members this is to advise you that I will be visiting the following Games in the next 6 weeks. On 25 May, I will be the Boyd tent in the Greenville, SC Games. While 22 & 23 June I will be at the Boyd Tent in Manheim, for the Lancaster County, PA Games with Jean Burchett. While on 31 May to 2 June, I will be at the Glasgow, KY Games. I think they have me do 4 or 5 talks on migration. I will see if the Montgomeries will take me in for the weekend. While on 14 & 15 June I will be at the Chicago Scots Games at Hamilton Lakes, Itasca, IL (1 Pierce Place, Itasca, IL) Hear I am hoping the Stewarts might take me in for the Games. While my main interest is on Boyd families, I have been going to Ireland, Scotland and London since 2004 , so I have built up a “little local knowledge” about sources in these Countries. So I am quite happy talk to non-Boyds about doing research organizing your trip (where to take car and where not to take a car, etc). When I close down my PC tonight I will not open it again until 5 July. Thank you Mike Boyd Chairman Hisorical Committee House of Society

Do you have anything on the surname; BURCHETT,  John. I have first cousins of that name here in NZ. Regards, Charmaine. Subject: [AYR] Mike Boyd - Clan Boyd Historian visint USA in next 6     weeks To: <[email protected]>  List members this is to advise you that I will be visiting the following Games in the next 6 weeks. On 25 May, I will be the Boyd tent in the Greenville, SC Games.  While 22 & 23 June I will be at the Boyd Tent in Manheim, for the Lancaster County, PA Games with Jean Burchett SEARCHING FOR SURNAME: WRIGHT,history back to Fenwick, Ayrshire,1700's.   New Zealand Society of Genealogists. http://www.genealogy.org.nz New Zealand Scottish Interest Branch. http://www.scotgroup.tk/ Our Family Tree Online. http://www.genesreunited.co.uk WAIHI,WAIKATO,NEW ZEALAND: http://www.waihi.org.nz

Robert I will reply to this by coping it to both the Boyd and Ayrshire net lists. This document CLEARLY PROVES that this John Boyd born in 1738 is not the son of James Boyd who became the 15th Earl of Erroll. While I have been to the North Ayrshire Local Studies library several times, I have never tried to look for any "occupations" such as Maltster's. So I am not sure if any such records might exist that could help find this John Boyd. I do not think that I copied any Burgess list for Irvine that I could look at. So it maybe worth asking the Local Studies Library if there are any Malster Burgess before 1738. I do list of Boyds in the Parish of Irvine who are on the 1691 Hearth Tax List. Parish of Irvine List within Town and parish of Irvine James Boyd (1) Robert Boyd (1) John Boyd (3) Thomas Boyd (4) Hugh Boyd (1) Lady Montfode (2) [what surname? - see ch 8/4??] Janet Boyd (2) Baillie Boyd (6) [what first name - need to check Irvine town history or lists of Bailles] James Boyd (5) - East side of the Towne Barbara Boyd (1) Josias Boyd (2) Thomas Boyd, merchant (3) Margaret Boyd (1) - Stonslands Hellen Boyd (1) The entries with more than one hearth could be the father of this John Boyd who married Janet Dunlop and had a son John Boyd in 1738. That gives you 7 families to pick from. I will add your note to Chapter 5/262. Oh from the booklet written by Edger Boyd in 1913, it said that John Boyd, the son, came to America with his mother, so it may be interesting to see if her death can be found - along with any newspaper article about her death. Are there any Boyd researchers looking into this family. Or are there any Dunlop researchers that may be bale to tell us more about John Boyd, the father's family. Thank you Mike Boyd Historical Committee, HBS -----Original Message----- From: Robert Boyd Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 1:16 AM To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Subject: Boyd ancestry controversy Hi Mike: My son Andy has located some documents related to the John Boyd born in Scotland in 1738. This is probably old stuff to you. Andy got some papers from the collection of William Hart Boyd on Monroe, Michigan, a son of William Augustus Boyd and grandson of John Boyd. The papers are held in the Bentley Historical Library at the University of Michigan. They include a copy of John Boyd's certification as a "Notary Publick" dated June 24, 1761, in Edinburgh. According to this document, John Boyd was a "Writer" (meaning lawyer) and the "Son Lawfull of John Boyd Maltster" (meaning brewer) in Irvine.The younger John Boyd emigrated to America and died in Philadelphia in the Yellow Fever epidemic of 1798, according to probate papers from Philadelphia. This bit of history casts more doubt on the Kilmarnock ancestry. I doubt a son of a Laird would be a brewer (unless, or course, he was illegitimate or a scalawag cast out by his father). Cheers, Robert Boyd [email protected]

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: AnnBuchanan42 Surnames: Jess, McCann, Coulter, McCleave Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/2518.2587.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi: My ggrandmother was Mary Ann McCann that married Robert Coulter in 1876. She lists her father as William Jess and I believe that her mother was Mary McCleave. I am not sure of this - but Mary Jess of Ballykeel is recorded as being present at the birth of many of their children. My grandfather was their youngest, Richard Grubb Coulter. They lived in Drumlough, Down. Do you know anything about this story? I have a gut feeling that Mary Ann McCann was illegitimate or from a first marriage of Mary McCleave. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bluenoser100 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/6133.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi this is not my Wylie's so far from same areas but I just seen a family tree for yours on Genni its a free site. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hello List, Please does anyone know anything about Dunbar Cottage(s) in Mauchline Road, Auchinleck? Members of my Dunbar family were living there in 1851 and I was told that it had been built by someone in the family - but I'd love to know when and by whom. I don't even know how old the cottage is. It appears now to be two cottages but I don't know whether it originated as a single dwelling. I'd be delighted with any information. Best regards, Mary

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: maureenrankin Surnames: Stirrett Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/46.3712.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi I have just come across your message from 2001. Hope you still follow this board. My Grandmother's surname was Stirrett. She came from outside Antrim Town. We know her ancestors came from Scotland but don't have any more information. Can you tell me what your information on the Scottish origins are? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: greenervirginia Surnames: Campbell Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/13629.2.1.1.1.2.2.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The Voluntown Campbells seem to be of the wrong immigration timeline. I did find a snippet of a source that I am waiting to hear back on from the Clan Campbell Society of North America. It is from their journal, citation as follows: "Ancestry of Major General Wendell Campbell-Carter and his Sister Anne Campbel Smith"Journal of the Clan Campbell (1987) v14-16, p38 ..."is son, Hugh, went back to Scotland and returned with three sons, Andrew of Mansfield, Connecticut, David, and Charles, ... There is a theory that Hugh Campbell's second son David might be the same as the first member of the family on ..." ---- This David Campbell lived and died in Hampden County, Massachusetts, up the river valley from Mansfield. I am related to Andrew and, by way of descent, Peter, Horace, James Martin Campbell, and Katherine Jane Campbell. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I too have a loose Glen connection this time from Lochwinnoch in Renfrewshire Agnes Glen born 1824 in Lochwinnoch - dau of Robert Glen and Agnes Orr married my gt gt grandfather John Scott in 1855 Jean Reynolds   Tel        023 9259 5406 email    [email protected]

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: PunchCardReader Surnames: Arbuckle Classification: biography Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/13357.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: A bit of information on Agnes Arbuckle, born 1915: American Red Cross records show a nurse Agnes Arbuckle, born Jan. 1915, graduated from the nursing school at General Hospital, Glace Bay, Nova Scotia in 1937. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Marilyn You will need to contact the Local Studies library at the Burns Centre in Kilmarnock - for East Ayrshire Council - and the one for the North Ayrshire Council to see if they can't give you the Glen/Glenn families from George Robinson books of 1820's and James Paterson's books of the 1850 & 1860's. Both have family estates by Parish that will give you a outline of these Glen families in Ayrshire. Mike Boyd Brisbane -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 2:29 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [AYR] Glen or Glenn family of Scotland This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Mszum Surnames: Glen or Glenn Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14372/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello I am looking for Glen or Glenn descendants whose family have lived and do live in Scotland. I am a Glenn and my family came from Scotland. I am trying to find possible relatives there. My email is [email protected] Marilyn Glenn Szum

Hi I also have one "GLEN" connection albeit a way back. This was a Mary GLEN born 14 August 1861 in Kilmarnock - her mother was Jane (shown as an "Outdoor Worker"). Mary was a Mill Worker and married a Thomas ANDERSON in 1881. The line goes into my grandmother's family who were "LENNON". Ewan Ayrshire On-Line a great source for Ayrshire Libraries: FHS: etc. www.ancestryroots.co.uk/ayrshire-onlineindex.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 8:00 AM Subject: AYRSHIRE Digest, Vol 8, Issue 112 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Glen or Glenn family of Scotland ([email protected]) > 2. Re: Glen or Glenn family of Scotland ([email protected]) > 3. Re: Glen or Glenn family of Scotland ([email protected]) > 4. Re: Glen or Glenn family of Scotland (Mike Boyd)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Mszum Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14372.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Linda I can trace my Glen's back to Glenlora Scotland about 1560 to David Glen. However we wonder if this line could be attached to the group in Ayr Scotland which is where Bar is because traditionally our Glen's came from Bar, Scotland. The problem for us is to see if this correct. The names on your list are very very interesting...for we find many of those intermarrying we believe or at least interacting with our Glenn. Thank you for responding...Can you tell me a little about your own Glen line? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lnordby3826 Surnames: Logan Love Reid Pennal McKean Kerr Cakdwell Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14372.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Marilyn, Can you offer more specifics as to your Glen family at all? Where in Scotland where they living and any information that would assist any of us that have Glen families that we have researched or are researching in Scotland please. All the best to you Linda Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Mszum Surnames: Glen or Glenn Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/14372/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello I am looking for Glen or Glenn descendants whose family have lived and do live in Scotland. I am a Glenn and my family came from Scotland. I am trying to find possible relatives there. My email is [email protected] Marilyn Glenn Szum Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Can any of the Ayrshire list tell me who this Abraham Boyd is a blood relative of Poet Robert Burns? Even though it is mid morning, I must be still half a sleep, as I have just noticed that his mother was a Burns. So the question still stands and I will be able to do an article that this part of Clan Boyd might have a “good turn of phrase”. This Boyd family appears to have come from Ireland – most likely Ulster – and his grandfather is said to be born about 1700 which would mean that Martha Burns and Robert Burns might be cousins or Aunty and nephew or even a more distant relative. Thank you Mike Boyd Historical committee, HBS From: Lauren Boyd McLachlan Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 9:47 PM To: Mike Boyd Subject: Re: [BOYD] Lynn Boyd of KY Abraham Boyd (b. 01 Oct 1765, d. 01 Apr 1839) Abraham Boyd (son of James Boyd and Martha Burns)10 was born 01 Oct 1765 in Bedford Co., VA, and died 01 Apr 1839 in Canton, Trigg Co., KY11. He married Nancy Agnes Linn on 01 Apr 1794 in Nashville, Davidson, TN, daughter of Adam Linn and Sidney Ann Ewing. Notes for Abraham Boyd: >From Boyd Trees ABRAHAM (or Abram) BOYD married Nancy/Agnes Linn/Lynn and had five sons and one daughter that lived to be grown: John, Martha, Lynn, Alfred and Rufus, and Putnam. Rufus died when about twenty-two years of age. The others all lived to be from fifty-nine to seventy-five years of age. The sons, like the father, were all over six feet in height, broad shouldered, well made, strong, blond and handsome, every one. (Source: Kris Oleson, P.O. Box 1113, Monroe, WA 98272) Abraham moved from NC to Nashville, TN. In 1800, he settled in Trigg County, KY, at what is now Canton. John Boyd, the eldest son went to Texas while it was still a Mexican province and was several times elected to the lower House of Congress in the Republic of Texas before it was annexed to the United States. He fought in the war for Mexican Independence. Linn Boyd served sixteen consecutive years in the lower House of Congress from the 1st Congressional District in Kentucky, the last four of which he was speaker of the house. Alfred Boyd served in the legislature of Kentucky one or two terms, and also was a member of the state convention to amend or frame a new constitution. (THE UNITED STATES BIOGRAPHICAL DICTIONARY on William A. Gordon, M.D.) Abraham Boyd, of Scotch descent, came from North Carolina and settled on the banks of the Cumberland River in West Kentucky, in 1785. His wife Nancy Agnes Lynn was of Irish extraction. Her mother was a Mill Ewing who ran away and married against her parents wishes to an Irishman named Lynn. The Ewings were a fine family, from which have sprung many distinguished men. They settled in Tennessee and Ohio. ABRAHAM/ABRAM had Boyd's Landing on the Cumberland River in Kentucky, and donated the land for the town of Canton, Trigg County, KY, and was original settler of Canton. He also served as Magistrate on 15 May, 1820, in the Kentucky Court of Appeals. "The settlement of CANTON Precinct dates back prior to the dawning of the present Century, though at what year the first pioneers made their appearance is a matter of mere conjecture. Traces of rude log cabins were found in many places along the Cumberland River when the first permanent settlers came, and the belief is current that families of trappers and adventurers made this a rendezvous many years before any effort was made to open up and improve the country. 'As early as 1799, a party of emigrants called a halt on the river at a point where now is situated the town of Canton, who were destined to leave a record in the public archives of this Commonwealth that has been and will continue to be read from the beginning to the ending of the present Century. We allude to the family of ABRAHAM BOYD -- he was a native of North Carolina but had been a resident of Tennessee in the neighborhood of Nashville for a number of years, and removed thence to the point above stated. The trip must have been made in flat-boats, for there were no roads, and an old settler remarked that he assisted them in cutting a road through and it took several days to complete it. He erected his first dwelling on the ground where the present church stands. His father-in-law, ADAM LINN, accompanied him and made a settlement three miles out from the river on the Luster place. He (ABRAHAM) was a native of Scotland, and a blood relation to the Poet Robert Burns. Abrham Boyd was a man of remarkably fine intellect, and for that day a man of considerable culture. He represented the people a number of times in the Legislature when this was a portion of Christian County and afterward when Trigg was formed into a distinct division. He has been represented as the superior of his afterward distinguished son, HONORABLE LINN BOYD, upon the stump, was a man of very thorough business training, and the presiding Justice of the County Court in the organization and formation of the County . . . . . Abraham Boyd fought in the Revolutionary War; crossed the mountains into Tennessee with Andrew Jackson. He died April 1839 (no stone) and is buried in Atwood Cemetery, Trigg Co., KY, with his wife Nancy Agnes (Linn) Boyd where there is no stone. Abraham and Nancy Linn had marriage license issued but not returned April 1, 1794. (Source: Collins, History of Kentucky, 2:731; Family correspondence -- Kris Oleson, Monroe, WA) More About Abraham Boyd and Nancy Agnes Linn: Marriage: 01 Apr 1794, Nashville, Davidson, TN. Children of Abraham Boyd and Nancy Agnes Linn are: 1.. Lynn Boyd, d. date unknown. 2.. Alfred Boyd, d. date unknown. 3.. Rufus Boyd, d. date unknown. 4.. Putnam Boyd, d. date unknown. 5.. John Boyd, b. Bef. 1798, d. date unknown. 6.. +Martha Boyd, b. 25 Feb 1799, Nashville TN, d. 25 Aug 1858, Lexington, Lafayette Co., MO. On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 4:46 AM, Lauren Boyd McLachlan <[email protected]> wrote: James Boyd (b. 1729, d. 1778) James Boyd (son of William Boyd and ??? Elizabeth) was born 1729 in Bedford Co., Virginia, and died 1778 in Tory Prision Camp, Christian CO, South Carolina. He married Martha Burns on 1754 in Bedford Co., VA, daughter of Laird I. Burns and Ann Mann. Notes for James Boyd: JAMES BOYD enlisted in the 1st South Carolina regiment in 1775, and the Revolutionary War. (Birth place could be Halifax Co., VA) He was a native of Virginia. From "The Boyd Family quoting from a pamphlet of 14 pages, published in 1852 during the political career of Lynn Boyd, son of Abram/Abraham Boyd, titled BIOGRAPHICAL SKETCH OF HON. LYNN BOYD OF KENTUCKY, the Present Speaker of the House of Representatives of the United States, by A Virginian". Printed at the Congressional Globe Office in 1852. "James Boyd, the grandfather of Lynn Boyd, a Virginian by birth, moved to the state of South Carolina, where he was an active and vigilant friend of his country, and a determined asserter of its independence. Constant and unyielding in the support of the War of the Revolution, he and his family suffered severely for their well-tried patriotism. Twice their habitation was burnt to the ground by the Tories; twice their hearth was made desolate, and he and his family went forth without shelter and raiment, yet they never lost faith in God and the good cause of their country. One son (Samuel) was shot diagonally through the eye and temple. Another son, of the tender age of sixteen years, bore arms by the side of his father and brother in the war of freedom." (See Page 4 of "The Boyd Family" biographical sketch) JAMES BOYD Came to Craven Co., SC from VA. He enlisted in the 1st South Carolina regiment in 1775, and the Revolutionary War. (Birth place could be Halifax Co., VA) He was a native of Virginia. More About James Boyd: Military service: 1775, South Carolina. More About James Boyd and Martha Burns: Marriage: 1754, Bedford Co., VA. Children of James Boyd and Martha Burns are: 1.. +Abraham Boyd, b. 01 Oct 1765, Bedford Co., VA, d. 01 Apr 1839, Canton, Trigg Co., KY11.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: aznanskyekyra Surnames: prendergast Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/1888.1892/mb.ashx Message Board Post: my grandmother was sara prendergast she had a sister jean prendergast who lived in park crescent dalmellington ...they had a son michael and a daughter young jean. she also had a brothers jimmy eddie and tommy and relatives were kate and meg they all lived in hopes av and her sister rose still lives in dalmellington..not sure if linked to your query Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

The website below was written by Karen Parker of Austin, TX. I have just exchanged Emails with her about the name of this “Mr Boyd” and what firm he may have worked for Ayrshire, but she has replied that she can’t recall anything else, except that after he retired me moved away form Ayrshire. Would any list members might know of this “Mr Boyd” and where he may be living today? Thank you. Mike Boyd Historical Committee, HBS From: Carolyn Vosburg Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 5:11 PM To: Mike Boyd Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BOYD] George Boyd of Compass, PA You wrote: It is known that George Boyd of Compass, PA died in 1731 and was buried at St. John's Episcopal Churchyard, Compass, Lancaster Co., PA. It is said that he was a founder of this Church when it was founded in 1729. So HOW DO members of this family know that he was born in 1691? Where does that information come from? It is commonly said that he came from County Antrim, while some say that he was born in Airth, Stirlingshire. So his place of birth is still uncertain. One ISSUE that has always puzzled me is that why would an Episcopalian or Church of Ireland member want to leave Ireland in the 1720’s when they were the official Church of Ireland – and as far as I understand did not face the same religious troubles as the Presbyterians and Catholics. I can understand the movement from Scotland in 1700-1710, or even earlier, because his family were Episcopalian as they were being persecuted in Scotland. Thank you Mike Boyd Historical Committee, hBS And I sent: rootsweb.com http://virts.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kmparker/gen/Surname%20Reports/boyd.htm BOYD I am indebted to Walter Boyd for sharing his experience in Ayrshire, where he met another Mr. Boyd, who was an employee of the company Walter was visiting. This gentleman had done considerable research on the Boyds in the area and was convinced that our George Boyd was the same one who was christened in Airth Parish in Sterling, Scotland, on May 31, 1691, the son of George Boyd and Elizabeth Johnston, and turned up later in County Antrim, Ireland. Walter believes that the family, along with numerous cousins, probably moved to County Antrim, Ireland, before 1700. Thereafter the economic conditions in northern Ireland became so bad that it seems unlikely they would have moved there after that time. Walter thinks George's wife Isabella Boyd was probably a cousin. They last appeared in the County Antrim records in 1723. Then, you sent: Carolyn thank you for finding this information. Unfortunately, it does not tell us who Walter Boyd is or who the “Mr Boyd of Ayrshire” is. I would certainly like to know, as I will put him on my list of people to see when I go to Ayrshire next year. Nor could I see any contact details for this family tree on who wrote the artilce/tree, which I have copied. MY GUESS is that a date of “May 31, 1691”, this would suggest that the entry has come from the Old Parish Register. So is anyone able to search those records to see if they can find this entry. I can’t think of any sources in County Antrim, that might tell us if George Boyd and Elizabeth Johnston went to live in Antrim and where? This will be necessary to “prove” the link between the George Boyd of compass, PA and born in Airth, Stirlingshire in 1691. Thank you Mike Boyd Mike, The person who posted this family tree on rootsweb is a K.M. Parker. I don't know what the K.M. stands for or if this is a man or a woman! But, here is the email address if you'd like to try to contact them directly about your questions and concerns! [email protected] Best wishes, Carolyn

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sales7218 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/4396.3.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Debbie- I'm now wondering if the "Cowsa" name I gave might have been Cowan...? Ref to this thread: McKELVIE,MUIR http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.britisles.scotland.ayr.general/13348.2/mb.ashx 2nd post refs the 1841 census for Riccarton, and in the household there is "Margaret Cowan female 1 b Ayrshire" I also believe it would be a good bet the father of John McKelvie (m. Agnes Muir McKelvie) would likely have been named "Francis." - He's married to this Cowan/Cowsa. In turn, I'm thinking, this Francis' father and mother may have been the John & Janet (Buntine) McKelvie's of Dundonald, Scotland. And in step with the 1st born son named after every other generation, my grandfather (J.Ward MacKelvie b. 1890, youngest of 5) - his oldest brother is John Robert McKelvie. So, looking at 1st sons born going backwards: John Robert McKelvie b.1876-1948 Francis McKelvie b. Ayr ~ 1840-1891 John (& Agnes) McKelvie b. Riccarton 1807-? (possible) Francis (& ? Cowan/Cowsa) McKelvie b. Dundonald 1779 (possible) John (Janet Buntine) McKelvie of Dundonald(?), Scotland. I still can't figure out if Thomas (Janet Muir) and John (Agnes Muir) were brothers though. I suspect there may have been more children of the John (Janet Buntine) McKelvie's and they maybe were cousins instead. Tom MacKelvie Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.