Stan... I'm trying to contain myself here... :) If you wouldn't mind, I'd really love to see how everyone's related. I'm just stunned and hoping that anything might take us further into our search. Also, Catherine? I've just spoken to Todd's father, Jerry in Michigan. He said that although he's not 100% positive, he thinks that the male siblings you have listed as his grandfather's (Okey Charles Sr.) sound awfully familiar; not sure about the females, however. He'll have his brother, Glenn, look into obtaining a death certificate in Ohio. Will let you all know as new developments emerge... Thanks so much! Todd and Jolene Auvil