Hey Gene- That's me with the complicated theory! I'm sorry, I'm not very good at explaining things, I'll try again: Even if we are not related through Auvils, both lines - the Susan Hatfield line and the Anna Hochwaerter line are related through the Hochwaerter/Hovatter family. Take a look at our family trees if you are still curious: http://www.auvil.com/auville.htm happy hunting Catherine Auvil in Olympia