Deaar Marlyne; What a wonderful name! As a result of this incident, I've become the second most loathsome creature I can think of in regard to genealogy work. I'll share info on particular individuals when requested, I'll tell you how I came across the info and where you can get it, or send you copies, I'll sell what I've completed. But I won't download GEDCOM. Let this be a lesson to all of us. By the way, the worst is the genealogy pirate. On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 16:13:44 -0800 (PST) Marlyne Natali <marlyne_natali@yahoo.com> writes: > I wasn't in on the beginning of this message so I > don't know how or why it started. I can add something > to this though. I also have had my work put on WFT and > other sites. I tell everyone that not everything has > been verified and I include it just to see if others > can verify it or correct it. Unfortunately these > people add it to the internet as is and others take it > as fact and continue adding it to internet sites as > there work. Some of this information is wrong. I have > made corrections but this wrong information continues > to perpertuate itself. This makes research for all of > us very confusing when we try to put these families > together. Right now my Autry family is a mess due to > all the wrong information out there. > > Marlyne > --- "JOHN D. ADAMS" <norm@web-access.net> wrote: > > Richard, > > > > Don't feel like you are the only one that has been > > duped by a pirate. One of > > my "cousins" (had never met her) asked me for my > > work that has been on going > > for the last ten years. I (dumbly) sent it to her > > and she posted everything > > all over WFT, Ancestry.Com and you name it, I didn't > > want it posted yet > > because there were some things in it I wanted to > > prove and back up with the > > deeds and papers. She entered it and said she had > > only been doing genealogy > > for 18 months or something like that. I really > > burned on that comment. So if > > you happen to see anything from jshorton its > > probably mine. > > > > Leona Adams > > > > From: "Richard G Autry" <richardautry1@juno.com> > > To: <AUTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 11:16 PM > > Subject: Unidentified subject! > > > > > > > Here's how that situation turned out with that > > pirate thing. I got the > > > impression from this that Ancestry doesn't really > > care about this issue. > > > > > > Kan > > > I sent the joker an e-mail demanding he > > remove the list > > > containing my work from the tree. And now I will > > take it too you. I > > > want everything he put on that contains any > > duplication of my work off > > > the WFT. Also I have another list with my name > > that I can't seem to > > > remove, 1463162. I would like that off also. > > Once this matter is > > > settled to my satisfaction, I will discontinue all > > association with the > > > WFT. > > > > > > On Wed, 23 Jan 2002 13:00:12 -0700 Kana > > <kana@myfamilyinc.com> writes: > > > > Dear Richard, > > > > > > > > Thank you for your e-mail. > > > > > > > > We regret the difficult circumstances you have > > encountered on > > > > Ancestry.com. There is not anything we can do > > to solve your > > > > dilemma. > > > > Ancestry.com members are open to post any > > information to the site. > > > > > > > > However, we are always trying to improve the > > experience of our > > > > Ancestry.com members. In fact, we have many > > site enhancement > > > > projects > > > > underway, but we certainly welcome comments like > > yours at any time. > > > > We > > > > believe your feedback has merit and will forward > > it to our > > > > development > > > > team for consideration. If you notice any other > > improvements that > > > > can > > > > be made to enhance your experience, please feel > > free to contact us > > > > again. > > > > > > > > If there is anything else we can assist you > > with, please let us > > > > know. > > > > > > > > Ana > > > > Customer Solutions > > > > MyFamily.com / Ancestry.com > > > > E-mail: support@myfamilyinc.com > > > > support@ancestry.com > > > > > > > > "Connecting and Strengthening Families Through > > The World Wide Web" > > > > > > > > Get Free Family History Tips, News and Updates! > > Sign up for the > > > > Ancestry Daily News at www.ancestry.com > > > > > > > > Learn about ING DIRECT's The Orange Savings > > Account. Great rates, > > > > no fees, no minimums, no market risk and a $25 > > opening bonus. > > > > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=INGsupport > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Original message follows: > > > > ------------------------- > > > > > > > > Form Message > > > > Form Name: Ancestry Report Form > > > > Full Name: Richard G. Autry > > > > Username: richardautry > > > > Email Address: richardautry1@juno.com > > > > Topic: Other > > > > Description: Richard G. Autry > > > > 420 A Kentucky St. SE > > > > Albuquerque, NM 87108-4595 > > > > richardautry1@juno.com > > > > 22 Jan, 2002 > > > > Sir; > > > > I had posted a rather large piece of > > work on Ancestry.com > > > > under the > > > > names of Autree and 1463162 . While using the > > Tree in further > > > > research > > > > of my family history I had noticed another tree > > which continued to > > > > pop > > > > up using the names which > > > > I had been researching and had already loaded > > into my trees, > > > > utilizing > > > > names, all of which included, but were not > > limited to; Archuleta, > > > > Autry, > > > > Carter, Chaves, Cuellar, Garcia, Otero, Richter, > > Shingledecker, > > > > Walker, > > > > and numerous others going back some 400 years. > > > > > > > > The sources of this tree is someone by the > > name of Jesse > > > > Rivera, > > > > who is posting this material in the name of > > jayrivera, which to a > > > > large > > > > portion, is a virtual mirror image of my own > > work, and parallels all > > > > the > > > > research I had done and for which I have > > documentation. Upon > > > > noticing > > > > this, I checked most of the other files for > > which I have done > > > > research > > > > on and found that this pirate showed up right > > alongside my work, > > > > thereby > > > > tarnishing my work as being a copy of one of > > his. > > > > A person such as this, is in my opinion, > > vermin - plain and > > > > simple > > > > vermin, and shows slovenly work and will add any > > name which is > > > > similar > > > > to the one he is working on - so long as it fits > > in the hole - so > > > > long > > > > as he doesn��t have to verify the names and > > dates, and requires very > > > > > > > > little research on his part. > > > > I had posted my tree under the > > assumption that my research > > > > would remain > > > > unique, but to me this is just simply plagiarism > > and piracy of all > > > > my > > > > research and is offensive to me, and I feel it > > is a violation of the > > > > > > > > Limited Use agreement of this website. > > > > As a result of this, I have chosen to no > > longer share my > > > > research in > > > > this site, under the perspective that if they > > want it they can go > > > > down > > > > the genealogy library and dredge it up > > themselves, or purchase their > > > > own > > > > documents as I have. > > > > I look forward to your reply and a > > resolution of this > > > > matter. > > > > Yours; > > > > Richard G. Autry > > > > > > > > > ==== AUTRY Mailing List ==== > > > === message truncated === > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! > http://auctions.yahoo.com > > > ==== AUTRY Mailing List ==== > Did you know that the Autry page was mentioned in the October Issue > of Family Tree Magazine? http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~autry > > =============== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

I have to agree that it is a mess. I refuse to give it to anybody that will charge for it also, so I guess there are more of us than I thought. And I have tried to get things removed by other individuals and it is impossible.RE: my 7 yr old grandaughter. Who would have thought? and it is not even on a family web site! Juanita ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard G Autry" <richardautry1@juno.com> To: <AUTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 7:09 PM Subject: Re: [AUTRY] Re: Unidentified subject! > Deaar Marlyne; > What a wonderful name! As a result of this incident, I've > become the second most loathsome creature I can think of in regard to > genealogy work. I'll share info on particular individuals when > requested, I'll tell you how I came across the info and where you can get > it, or send you copies, I'll sell what I've completed. But I won't > download GEDCOM. Let this be a lesson to all of us. By the way, the > worst is the genealogy pirate. > On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 16:13:44 -0800 (PST) Marlyne Natali > <marlyne_natali@yahoo.com> writes: > > I wasn't in on the beginning of this message so I > > don't know how or why it started. I can add something > > to this though. I also have had my work put on WFT and > > other sites. I tell everyone that not everything has > > been verified and I include it just to see if others > > can verify it or correct it. Unfortunately these > > people add it to the internet as is and others take it > > as fact and continue adding it to internet sites as > > there work. Some of this information is wrong. I have > > made corrections but this wrong information continues > > to perpertuate itself. This makes research for all of > > us very confusing when we try to put these families > > together. Right now my Autry family is a mess due to > > all the wrong information out there. > > > > Marlyne > > --- "JOHN D. ADAMS" <norm@web-access.net> wrote: > > > Richard, > > > > > > Don't feel like you are the only one that has been > > > duped by a pirate. One of > > > my "cousins" (had never met her) asked me for my > > > work that has been on going > > > for the last ten years. I (dumbly) sent it to her > > > and she posted everything > > > all over WFT, Ancestry.Com and you name it, I didn't > > > want it posted yet > > > because there were some things in it I wanted to > > > prove and back up with the > > > deeds and papers. She entered it and said she had > > > only been doing genealogy > > > for 18 months or something like that. I really > > > burned on that comment. So if > > > you happen to see anything from jshorton its > > > probably mine. > > > > > > Leona Adams > > > > > > From: "Richard G Autry" <richardautry1@juno.com> > > > To: <AUTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 11:16 PM > > > Subject: Unidentified subject! > > > > > > > > > > Here's how that situation turned out with that > > > pirate thing. I got the > > > > impression from this that Ancestry doesn't really > > > care about this issue. > > > > > > > > Kan > > > > I sent the joker an e-mail demanding he > > > remove the list > > > > containing my work from the tree. And now I will > > > take it too you. I > > > > want everything he put on that contains any > > > duplication of my work off > > > > the WFT. Also I have another list with my name > > > that I can't seem to > > > > remove, 1463162. I would like that off also. > > > Once this matter is > > > > settled to my satisfaction, I will discontinue all > > > association with the > > > > WFT. > > > > > > > > On Wed, 23 Jan 2002 13:00:12 -0700 Kana > > > <kana@myfamilyinc.com> writes: > > > > > Dear Richard, > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for your e-mail. > > > > > > > > > > We regret the difficult circumstances you have > > > encountered on > > > > > Ancestry.com. There is not anything we can do > > > to solve your > > > > > dilemma. > > > > > Ancestry.com members are open to post any > > > information to the site. > > > > > > > > > > However, we are always trying to improve the > > > experience of our > > > > > Ancestry.com members. In fact, we have many > > > site enhancement > > > > > projects > > > > > underway, but we certainly welcome comments like > > > yours at any time. > > > > > We > > > > > believe your feedback has merit and will forward > > > it to our > > > > > development > > > > > team for consideration. If you notice any other > > > improvements that > > > > > can > > > > > be made to enhance your experience, please feel > > > free to contact us > > > > > again. > > > > > > > > > > If there is anything else we can assist you > > > with, please let us > > > > > know. > > > > > > > > > > Ana > > > > > Customer Solutions > > > > > MyFamily.com / Ancestry.com > > > > > E-mail: support@myfamilyinc.com > > > > > support@ancestry.com > > > > > > > > > > "Connecting and Strengthening Families Through > > > The World Wide Web" > > > > > > > > > > Get Free Family History Tips, News and Updates! > > > Sign up for the > > > > > Ancestry Daily News at www.ancestry.com > > > > > > > > > > Learn about ING DIRECT's The Orange Savings > > > Account. Great rates, > > > > > no fees, no minimums, no market risk and a $25 > > > opening bonus. > > > > > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=INGsupport > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Original message follows: > > > > > ------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > Form Message > > > > > Form Name: Ancestry Report Form > > > > > Full Name: Richard G. Autry > > > > > Username: richardautry > > > > > Email Address: richardautry1@juno.com > > > > > Topic: Other > > > > > Description: Richard G. Autry > > > > > 420 A Kentucky St. SE > > > > > Albuquerque, NM 87108-4595 > > > > > richardautry1@juno.com > > > > > 22 Jan, 2002 > > > > > Sir; > > > > > I had posted a rather large piece of > > > work on Ancestry.com > > > > > under the > > > > > names of Autree and 1463162 . While using the > > > Tree in further > > > > > research > > > > > of my family history I had noticed another tree > > > which continued to > > > > > pop > > > > > up using the names which > > > > > I had been researching and had already loaded > > > into my trees, > > > > > utilizing > > > > > names, all of which included, but were not > > > limited to; Archuleta, > > > > > Autry, > > > > > Carter, Chaves, Cuellar, Garcia, Otero, Richter, > > > Shingledecker, > > > > > Walker, > > > > > and numerous others going back some 400 years. > > > > > > > > > > The sources of this tree is someone by the > > > name of Jesse > > > > > Rivera, > > > > > who is posting this material in the name of > > > jayrivera, which to a > > > > > large > > > > > portion, is a virtual mirror image of my own > > > work, and parallels all > > > > > the > > > > > research I had done and for which I have > > > documentation. Upon > > > > > noticing > > > > > this, I checked most of the other files for > > > which I have done > > > > > research > > > > > on and found that this pirate showed up right > > > alongside my work, > > > > > thereby > > > > > tarnishing my work as being a copy of one of > > > his. > > > > > A person such as this, is in my opinion, > > > vermin - plain and > > > > > simple > > > > > vermin, and shows slovenly work and will add any > > > name which is > > > > > similar > > > > > to the one he is working on - so long as it fits > > > in the hole - so > > > > > long > > > > > as he doesn¡¦t have to verify the names and > > > dates, and requires very > > > > > > > > > > little research on his part. > > > > > I had posted my tree under the > > > assumption that my research > > > > > would remain > > > > > unique, but to me this is just simply plagiarism > > > and piracy of all > > > > > my > > > > > research and is offensive to me, and I feel it > > > is a violation of the > > > > > > > > > > Limited Use agreement of this website. > > > > > As a result of this, I have chosen to no > > > longer share my > > > > > research in > > > > > this site, under the perspective that if they > > > want it they can go > > > > > down > > > > > the genealogy library and dredge it up > > > themselves, or purchase their > > > > > own > > > > > documents as I have. > > > > > I look forward to your reply and a > > > resolution of this > > > > > matter. > > > > > Yours; > > > > > Richard G. Autry > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== AUTRY Mailing List ==== > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! > > http://auctions.yahoo.com > > > > > > ==== AUTRY Mailing List ==== > > Did you know that the Autry page was mentioned in the October Issue > > of Family Tree Magazine? http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~autry > > > > =============== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > records, go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. > > > ==== AUTRY Mailing List ==== > Be sure to visit the Autry and Autrey surname message boards. They're at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~autry/records/ at the bottom of the page. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >