Here's how that situation turned out with that pirate thing. I got the impression from this that Ancestry doesn't really care about this issue. Kan I sent the joker an e-mail demanding he remove the list containing my work from the tree. And now I will take it too you. I want everything he put on that contains any duplication of my work off the WFT. Also I have another list with my name that I can't seem to remove, 1463162. I would like that off also. Once this matter is settled to my satisfaction, I will discontinue all association with the WFT. On Wed, 23 Jan 2002 13:00:12 -0700 Kana <kana@myfamilyinc.com> writes: > Dear Richard, > > Thank you for your e-mail. > > We regret the difficult circumstances you have encountered on > Ancestry.com. There is not anything we can do to solve your > dilemma. > Ancestry.com members are open to post any information to the site. > > However, we are always trying to improve the experience of our > Ancestry.com members. In fact, we have many site enhancement > projects > underway, but we certainly welcome comments like yours at any time. > We > believe your feedback has merit and will forward it to our > development > team for consideration. If you notice any other improvements that > can > be made to enhance your experience, please feel free to contact us > again. > > If there is anything else we can assist you with, please let us > know. > > Ana > Customer Solutions > MyFamily.com / Ancestry.com > E-mail: support@myfamilyinc.com > support@ancestry.com > > "Connecting and Strengthening Families Through The World Wide Web" > > Get Free Family History Tips, News and Updates! Sign up for the > Ancestry Daily News at www.ancestry.com > > Learn about ING DIRECT's The Orange Savings Account. Great rates, > no fees, no minimums, no market risk and a $25 opening bonus. > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=INGsupport > > > > Original message follows: > ------------------------- > > Form Message > Form Name: Ancestry Report Form > Full Name: Richard G. Autry > Username: richardautry > Email Address: richardautry1@juno.com > Topic: Other > Description: Richard G. Autry > 420 A Kentucky St. SE > Albuquerque, NM 87108-4595 > richardautry1@juno.com > 22 Jan, 2002 > Sir; > I had posted a rather large piece of work on Ancestry.com > under the > names of Autree and 1463162 . While using the Tree in further > research > of my family history I had noticed another tree which continued to > pop > up using the names which > I had been researching and had already loaded into my trees, > utilizing > names, all of which included, but were not limited to; Archuleta, > Autry, > Carter, Chaves, Cuellar, Garcia, Otero, Richter, Shingledecker, > Walker, > and numerous others going back some 400 years. > > The sources of this tree is someone by the name of Jesse > Rivera, > who is posting this material in the name of jayrivera, which to a > large > portion, is a virtual mirror image of my own work, and parallels all > the > research I had done and for which I have documentation. Upon > noticing > this, I checked most of the other files for which I have done > research > on and found that this pirate showed up right alongside my work, > thereby > tarnishing my work as being a copy of one of his. > A person such as this, is in my opinion, vermin - plain and > simple > vermin, and shows slovenly work and will add any name which is > similar > to the one he is working on - so long as it fits in the hole - so > long > as he doesn¡¦t have to verify the names and dates, and requires very > > little research on his part. > I had posted my tree under the assumption that my research > would remain > unique, but to me this is just simply plagiarism and piracy of all > my > research and is offensive to me, and I feel it is a violation of the > > Limited Use agreement of this website. > As a result of this, I have chosen to no longer share my > research in > this site, under the perspective that if they want it they can go > down > the genealogy library and dredge it up themselves, or purchase their > own > documents as I have. > I look forward to your reply and a resolution of this > matter. > Yours; > Richard G. Autry

Richard, Don't feel like you are the only one that has been duped by a pirate. One of my "cousins" (had never met her) asked me for my work that has been on going for the last ten years. I (dumbly) sent it to her and she posted everything all over WFT, Ancestry.Com and you name it, I didn't want it posted yet because there were some things in it I wanted to prove and back up with the deeds and papers. She entered it and said she had only been doing genealogy for 18 months or something like that. I really burned on that comment. So if you happen to see anything from jshorton its probably mine. Leona Adams From: "Richard G Autry" <richardautry1@juno.com> To: <AUTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 11:16 PM Subject: Unidentified subject! > Here's how that situation turned out with that pirate thing. I got the > impression from this that Ancestry doesn't really care about this issue. > > Kan > I sent the joker an e-mail demanding he remove the list > containing my work from the tree. And now I will take it too you. I > want everything he put on that contains any duplication of my work off > the WFT. Also I have another list with my name that I can't seem to > remove, 1463162. I would like that off also. Once this matter is > settled to my satisfaction, I will discontinue all association with the > WFT. > > On Wed, 23 Jan 2002 13:00:12 -0700 Kana <kana@myfamilyinc.com> writes: > > Dear Richard, > > > > Thank you for your e-mail. > > > > We regret the difficult circumstances you have encountered on > > Ancestry.com. There is not anything we can do to solve your > > dilemma. > > Ancestry.com members are open to post any information to the site. > > > > However, we are always trying to improve the experience of our > > Ancestry.com members. In fact, we have many site enhancement > > projects > > underway, but we certainly welcome comments like yours at any time. > > We > > believe your feedback has merit and will forward it to our > > development > > team for consideration. If you notice any other improvements that > > can > > be made to enhance your experience, please feel free to contact us > > again. > > > > If there is anything else we can assist you with, please let us > > know. > > > > Ana > > Customer Solutions > > MyFamily.com / Ancestry.com > > E-mail: support@myfamilyinc.com > > support@ancestry.com > > > > "Connecting and Strengthening Families Through The World Wide Web" > > > > Get Free Family History Tips, News and Updates! Sign up for the > > Ancestry Daily News at www.ancestry.com > > > > Learn about ING DIRECT's The Orange Savings Account. Great rates, > > no fees, no minimums, no market risk and a $25 opening bonus. > > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=INGsupport > > > > > > > > Original message follows: > > ------------------------- > > > > Form Message > > Form Name: Ancestry Report Form > > Full Name: Richard G. Autry > > Username: richardautry > > Email Address: richardautry1@juno.com > > Topic: Other > > Description: Richard G. Autry > > 420 A Kentucky St. SE > > Albuquerque, NM 87108-4595 > > richardautry1@juno.com > > 22 Jan, 2002 > > Sir; > > I had posted a rather large piece of work on Ancestry.com > > under the > > names of Autree and 1463162 . While using the Tree in further > > research > > of my family history I had noticed another tree which continued to > > pop > > up using the names which > > I had been researching and had already loaded into my trees, > > utilizing > > names, all of which included, but were not limited to; Archuleta, > > Autry, > > Carter, Chaves, Cuellar, Garcia, Otero, Richter, Shingledecker, > > Walker, > > and numerous others going back some 400 years. > > > > The sources of this tree is someone by the name of Jesse > > Rivera, > > who is posting this material in the name of jayrivera, which to a > > large > > portion, is a virtual mirror image of my own work, and parallels all > > the > > research I had done and for which I have documentation. Upon > > noticing > > this, I checked most of the other files for which I have done > > research > > on and found that this pirate showed up right alongside my work, > > thereby > > tarnishing my work as being a copy of one of his. > > A person such as this, is in my opinion, vermin - plain and > > simple > > vermin, and shows slovenly work and will add any name which is > > similar > > to the one he is working on - so long as it fits in the hole - so > > long > > as he doesn¡¦t have to verify the names and dates, and requires very > > > > little research on his part. > > I had posted my tree under the assumption that my research > > would remain > > unique, but to me this is just simply plagiarism and piracy of all > > my > > research and is offensive to me, and I feel it is a violation of the > > > > Limited Use agreement of this website. > > As a result of this, I have chosen to no longer share my > > research in > > this site, under the perspective that if they want it they can go > > down > > the genealogy library and dredge it up themselves, or purchase their > > own > > documents as I have. > > I look forward to your reply and a resolution of this > > matter. > > Yours; > > Richard G. Autry > > > ==== AUTRY Mailing List ==== > Be sure to visit the Autry and Autrey surname message boards. They're at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~autry/records/ at the bottom of the page. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

I wasn't in on the beginning of this message so I don't know how or why it started. I can add something to this though. I also have had my work put on WFT and other sites. I tell everyone that not everything has been verified and I include it just to see if others can verify it or correct it. Unfortunately these people add it to the internet as is and others take it as fact and continue adding it to internet sites as there work. Some of this information is wrong. I have made corrections but this wrong information continues to perpertuate itself. This makes research for all of us very confusing when we try to put these families together. Right now my Autry family is a mess due to all the wrong information out there. Marlyne --- "JOHN D. ADAMS" <norm@web-access.net> wrote: > Richard, > > Don't feel like you are the only one that has been > duped by a pirate. One of > my "cousins" (had never met her) asked me for my > work that has been on going > for the last ten years. I (dumbly) sent it to her > and she posted everything > all over WFT, Ancestry.Com and you name it, I didn't > want it posted yet > because there were some things in it I wanted to > prove and back up with the > deeds and papers. She entered it and said she had > only been doing genealogy > for 18 months or something like that. I really > burned on that comment. So if > you happen to see anything from jshorton its > probably mine. > > Leona Adams > > From: "Richard G Autry" <richardautry1@juno.com> > To: <AUTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 11:16 PM > Subject: Unidentified subject! > > > > Here's how that situation turned out with that > pirate thing. I got the > > impression from this that Ancestry doesn't really > care about this issue. > > > > Kan > > I sent the joker an e-mail demanding he > remove the list > > containing my work from the tree. And now I will > take it too you. I > > want everything he put on that contains any > duplication of my work off > > the WFT. Also I have another list with my name > that I can't seem to > > remove, 1463162. I would like that off also. > Once this matter is > > settled to my satisfaction, I will discontinue all > association with the > > WFT. > > > > On Wed, 23 Jan 2002 13:00:12 -0700 Kana > <kana@myfamilyinc.com> writes: > > > Dear Richard, > > > > > > Thank you for your e-mail. > > > > > > We regret the difficult circumstances you have > encountered on > > > Ancestry.com. There is not anything we can do > to solve your > > > dilemma. > > > Ancestry.com members are open to post any > information to the site. > > > > > > However, we are always trying to improve the > experience of our > > > Ancestry.com members. In fact, we have many > site enhancement > > > projects > > > underway, but we certainly welcome comments like > yours at any time. > > > We > > > believe your feedback has merit and will forward > it to our > > > development > > > team for consideration. If you notice any other > improvements that > > > can > > > be made to enhance your experience, please feel > free to contact us > > > again. > > > > > > If there is anything else we can assist you > with, please let us > > > know. > > > > > > Ana > > > Customer Solutions > > > MyFamily.com / Ancestry.com > > > E-mail: support@myfamilyinc.com > > > support@ancestry.com > > > > > > "Connecting and Strengthening Families Through > The World Wide Web" > > > > > > Get Free Family History Tips, News and Updates! > Sign up for the > > > Ancestry Daily News at www.ancestry.com > > > > > > Learn about ING DIRECT's The Orange Savings > Account. Great rates, > > > no fees, no minimums, no market risk and a $25 > opening bonus. > > > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=INGsupport > > > > > > > > > > > > Original message follows: > > > ------------------------- > > > > > > Form Message > > > Form Name: Ancestry Report Form > > > Full Name: Richard G. Autry > > > Username: richardautry > > > Email Address: richardautry1@juno.com > > > Topic: Other > > > Description: Richard G. Autry > > > 420 A Kentucky St. SE > > > Albuquerque, NM 87108-4595 > > > richardautry1@juno.com > > > 22 Jan, 2002 > > > Sir; > > > I had posted a rather large piece of > work on Ancestry.com > > > under the > > > names of Autree and 1463162 . While using the > Tree in further > > > research > > > of my family history I had noticed another tree > which continued to > > > pop > > > up using the names which > > > I had been researching and had already loaded > into my trees, > > > utilizing > > > names, all of which included, but were not > limited to; Archuleta, > > > Autry, > > > Carter, Chaves, Cuellar, Garcia, Otero, Richter, > Shingledecker, > > > Walker, > > > and numerous others going back some 400 years. > > > > > > The sources of this tree is someone by the > name of Jesse > > > Rivera, > > > who is posting this material in the name of > jayrivera, which to a > > > large > > > portion, is a virtual mirror image of my own > work, and parallels all > > > the > > > research I had done and for which I have > documentation. Upon > > > noticing > > > this, I checked most of the other files for > which I have done > > > research > > > on and found that this pirate showed up right > alongside my work, > > > thereby > > > tarnishing my work as being a copy of one of > his. > > > A person such as this, is in my opinion, > vermin - plain and > > > simple > > > vermin, and shows slovenly work and will add any > name which is > > > similar > > > to the one he is working on - so long as it fits > in the hole - so > > > long > > > as he doesn��t have to verify the names and > dates, and requires very > > > > > > little research on his part. > > > I had posted my tree under the > assumption that my research > > > would remain > > > unique, but to me this is just simply plagiarism > and piracy of all > > > my > > > research and is offensive to me, and I feel it > is a violation of the > > > > > > Limited Use agreement of this website. > > > As a result of this, I have chosen to no > longer share my > > > research in > > > this site, under the perspective that if they > want it they can go > > > down > > > the genealogy library and dredge it up > themselves, or purchase their > > > own > > > documents as I have. > > > I look forward to your reply and a > resolution of this > > > matter. > > > Yours; > > > Richard G. 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