Cousins, I fail to understand this animosity toward a company that provides access to genealogical information that it has to buy, digitized, and create search engines for so that its subscribers can use it 24 hours a day 7 days a week for a small subscription fee. I can't drive to the nearest large library or National Archives -- pay for gas, lunch, and the outrageous parking fees *once* for the annual subscription to Ancestry.com And, I certainly can't access these repositories any time I WISH to -- only when they are open. For those of us who work full-time online libraries are wonderful. I can't even check a book out of the nearest big library without paying $50 a year for a card. The insinuation made that Ancestry.com (or any other online genealogical company) steals YOUR genealogical information and then charge for it is ludicrous. The Message Boards, Mailing Lists, WorldConnect, and Ancestry World Tree are all FREE and open to anyone who wants to share information. If you have a problem with someone "using" or "stealing" your material, you should not be posting it or sharing it in any format in the first place, and if someone has plagiarized or infringed upon your copyrighted material (not just a bunch of genealogy "facts") then your problem is with them -- not the company that provides the means whereby those of us who wish to SHARE information can do so. No one OWNS their ancestors or the genealogical FACTS about them. If you don't wish to share your work with others, that is your prerogative, but on the flip side of the coin, why should you be obtaining information from those of us who are willing to share? It appears that you are upset because some else who also is researching Autrys posted the same or similar information that you obtained from a book or periodical and posted on this list. This is a public forum and anyone can access and search its archives. While possibly this person did obtain the information from your post and neglected to give you credit for it, that is an etiquette error (of which thousands of hobbyist genealogists are guilty). You should contact the person and ask them to credit you properly -- if that is what you want. You do not *OWN* that material or have exclusive use of it. Moreover, that information you posted here is widely available and a simple search in PERSI will locate it and one can obtain a copy of the publication from Allen County Public Library (and other repositories) quite easily. It may even be posted on any of the various USGenWeb sites, etc. How this possible etiquette breach by a private researcher translates into wild accusations toward Ancestry.com is beyond me. It appears to me that your beef, if you really have one, should be personally with the person you think used *your* material without credit rather than you ranting and raving on a public forum about a company "stealing" *your* material. Myra Vanderpool Gormley, Certified Genealogist rwr-editor@rootsweb.com Editor RootsWeb Review Syndicated Columnist Tribune Media Services Certification Info: http://www.bcgcertification.org/certification/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill & Juanita Autry" <wja4032@bossig.com> To: <AUTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: February 07, 2002 8:56 PM Subject: Re: [AUTRY] Re: AUTRY-D Digest V02 #6 > I have some of the same feelings about ancestry.com as you do. They charge > for a lot of their info and then use our "free"info. Thus, it is > agrivating., especially in notes and facts, you find things that they could > not have posibly known without your entry-a personal note about my grandpa > who lived with us. end of discussion! > juanita----- Original Message ----- > From: "The Taylor's" <ctaylor@accesscom.net> > To: <AUTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 8:35 PM > Subject: Re: [AUTRY] Re: AUTRY-D Digest V02 #6 > > > > I did not write the articles and will share anything I have willingly with > > anyone who asks. > > > > So, let me be clear and say what I didn't say before. Ancestry is not my > > favorite site for reasons posted here previously and I didn't seeing that > > what I posted here ended up there. And yes, I know it came from here. > > > > This is my last message regarding this and apologize to the > > board for my outburst. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Velma Beale" <velma.beale@axom.com> > > To: <AUTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 10:17 PM > > Subject: Re: [AUTRY] Re: AUTRY-D Digest V02 #6 > > > > > > > The Taylors: > > > Did you write the articles or get them from a public source? If they > were > > > available from a public source, how do you know these people didn't get > > them > > > there? You know, most of us who are unable to travel to all the original > > > sources get a lot of our information on the internet and from e-mail > > > contacts. By compiling it in our own family gedcom, we help to show the > > > connections. So long as people try to give sources, I see nothing wrong > > with > > > sharing what we have ferreted out from many sources. It helps others get > a > > > start. Everyone who is researching genealogy should learn early on to > look > > > for sources cited and take everything with a grain of salt until they > have > > > checked original sources. > > > > > > I am always happy to share what I have with anyone, with the caveat that > > it > > > may be wrong, so check it out. Why are you so upset that someone is > > helping > > > you share information? Do you hope to sell it some day? I thought most > > > genealogists in this country were trying hard to keep this information > > > freely accessible to all. Also, you should know by now that anything you > > > post on a website or a mailing list is going to be grabbed by all > > interested > > > parties and maybe even sold by the unscrupulous. > > > > > > I have been getting the same sort of complaints from someone on another > > list > > > I subscribe to and the list manager finally told them it was more > > > appropriate to a geneology chat room than a family research list. I am > > sorry > > > you feel offended. I guess I just don't understand why you care, unless > > you > > > did write the articles and were not asked for permission or given > credit. > > In > > > that case, you are right to be offended. > > > > > > I am having second thoughts about publishing my gedcom on the internet, > if > > > my sources are going to be offended, even with credit. > > > > > > By the way, no one ever told me that my name was published in a book, > nor > > > asked my permission. I found out when I purchased the Bundy/Brooks book. > I > > > was not offended. In fact, it was especially nice to see my parents and > > > grandparents in there. > > > > > > Velma Shaw Beale > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "The Taylor's" <ctaylor@accesscom.net> > > > To: <AUTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 9:33 PM > > > Subject: Re: [AUTRY] Re: AUTRY-D Digest V02 #6 > > > > > > > > > > Hi folks, you may remember that I posted a couple of articles here on > > this > > > > message board for all of us to enjoy regarding Simon Autry (KY) and > > Giles > > > > Autry (KY). Well, guess where I discovered them tonight....on > > > Ancestry.com. > > > > > > > > Really ticks me off. > > > > The gedcom belongs to: > > > > Contact: Larry & Elaine Blackman <leblackm@bellsouth.net> > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== AUTRY Mailing List ==== > > > > Have you visited the Autr* genealogy page? It's full of information > for > > > all versions of the Autr* surname! Take a look at > > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~autry/ > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > records, > > > go to: > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== AUTRY Mailing List ==== > > > Be sure to visit the Autry and Autrey surname message boards. They're > at > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~autry/records/ at the bottom of the page. > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== AUTRY Mailing List ==== > > Did you know that the Autry page was mentioned in the October Issue of > Family Tree Magazine? http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~autry > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== AUTRY Mailing List ==== > Be sure to visit the Autry and Autrey surname message boards. They're at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~autry/records/ at the bottom of the page. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Tallahassee Democrat, Sunday, February 3, 2002 Page 7B Elbert Autrey Dean BAINBRIDGE - Elvert Autrey Dean, 60, of Climax, Ga., died Saturday, Feb. 2, 2002 at Bainbridge Health Center. The service will be at 4 p.m. today at Mount Pleasant Baptist Church in Vada, Ga., with the Rev. Tim Dean officiating. Ivey Funeral Home in Bainbridge (229-246-3232) is handling arrangements. 1720083

The Taylors: Did you write the articles or get them from a public source? If they were available from a public source, how do you know these people didn't get them there? You know, most of us who are unable to travel to all the original sources get a lot of our information on the internet and from e-mail contacts. By compiling it in our own family gedcom, we help to show the connections. So long as people try to give sources, I see nothing wrong with sharing what we have ferreted out from many sources. It helps others get a start. Everyone who is researching genealogy should learn early on to look for sources cited and take everything with a grain of salt until they have checked original sources. I am always happy to share what I have with anyone, with the caveat that it may be wrong, so check it out. Why are you so upset that someone is helping you share information? Do you hope to sell it some day? I thought most genealogists in this country were trying hard to keep this information freely accessible to all. Also, you should know by now that anything you post on a website or a mailing list is going to be grabbed by all interested parties and maybe even sold by the unscrupulous. I have been getting the same sort of complaints from someone on another list I subscribe to and the list manager finally told them it was more appropriate to a geneology chat room than a family research list. I am sorry you feel offended. I guess I just don't understand why you care, unless you did write the articles and were not asked for permission or given credit. In that case, you are right to be offended. I am having second thoughts about publishing my gedcom on the internet, if my sources are going to be offended, even with credit. By the way, no one ever told me that my name was published in a book, nor asked my permission. I found out when I purchased the Bundy/Brooks book. I was not offended. In fact, it was especially nice to see my parents and grandparents in there. Velma Shaw Beale ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Taylor's" <ctaylor@accesscom.net> To: <AUTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 9:33 PM Subject: Re: [AUTRY] Re: AUTRY-D Digest V02 #6 > Hi folks, you may remember that I posted a couple of articles here on this > message board for all of us to enjoy regarding Simon Autry (KY) and Giles > Autry (KY). Well, guess where I discovered them tonight....on Ancestry.com. > > Really ticks me off. > The gedcom belongs to: > Contact: Larry & Elaine Blackman <leblackm@bellsouth.net> > > > ==== AUTRY Mailing List ==== > Have you visited the Autr* genealogy page? It's full of information for all versions of the Autr* surname! Take a look at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~autry/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

I did not write the articles and will share anything I have willingly with anyone who asks. So, let me be clear and say what I didn't say before. Ancestry is not my favorite site for reasons posted here previously and I didn't seeing that what I posted here ended up there. And yes, I know it came from here. This is my last message regarding this and apologize to the board for my outburst. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Velma Beale" <velma.beale@axom.com> To: <AUTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 10:17 PM Subject: Re: [AUTRY] Re: AUTRY-D Digest V02 #6 > The Taylors: > Did you write the articles or get them from a public source? If they were > available from a public source, how do you know these people didn't get them > there? You know, most of us who are unable to travel to all the original > sources get a lot of our information on the internet and from e-mail > contacts. By compiling it in our own family gedcom, we help to show the > connections. So long as people try to give sources, I see nothing wrong with > sharing what we have ferreted out from many sources. It helps others get a > start. Everyone who is researching genealogy should learn early on to look > for sources cited and take everything with a grain of salt until they have > checked original sources. > > I am always happy to share what I have with anyone, with the caveat that it > may be wrong, so check it out. Why are you so upset that someone is helping > you share information? Do you hope to sell it some day? I thought most > genealogists in this country were trying hard to keep this information > freely accessible to all. Also, you should know by now that anything you > post on a website or a mailing list is going to be grabbed by all interested > parties and maybe even sold by the unscrupulous. > > I have been getting the same sort of complaints from someone on another list > I subscribe to and the list manager finally told them it was more > appropriate to a geneology chat room than a family research list. I am sorry > you feel offended. I guess I just don't understand why you care, unless you > did write the articles and were not asked for permission or given credit. In > that case, you are right to be offended. > > I am having second thoughts about publishing my gedcom on the internet, if > my sources are going to be offended, even with credit. > > By the way, no one ever told me that my name was published in a book, nor > asked my permission. I found out when I purchased the Bundy/Brooks book. I > was not offended. In fact, it was especially nice to see my parents and > grandparents in there. > > Velma Shaw Beale > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "The Taylor's" <ctaylor@accesscom.net> > To: <AUTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 9:33 PM > Subject: Re: [AUTRY] Re: AUTRY-D Digest V02 #6 > > > > Hi folks, you may remember that I posted a couple of articles here on this > > message board for all of us to enjoy regarding Simon Autry (KY) and Giles > > Autry (KY). Well, guess where I discovered them tonight....on > Ancestry.com. > > > > Really ticks me off. > > The gedcom belongs to: > > Contact: Larry & Elaine Blackman <leblackm@bellsouth.net> > > > > > > ==== AUTRY Mailing List ==== > > Have you visited the Autr* genealogy page? It's full of information for > all versions of the Autr* surname! Take a look at > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~autry/ > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > ==== AUTRY Mailing List ==== > Be sure to visit the Autry and Autrey surname message boards. They're at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~autry/records/ at the bottom of the page. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

I have some of the same feelings about ancestry.com as you do. They charge for a lot of their info and then use our "free"info. Thus, it is agrivating., especially in notes and facts, you find things that they could not have posibly known without your entry-a personal note about my grandpa who lived with us. end of discussion! juanita----- Original Message ----- From: "The Taylor's" <ctaylor@accesscom.net> To: <AUTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 8:35 PM Subject: Re: [AUTRY] Re: AUTRY-D Digest V02 #6 > I did not write the articles and will share anything I have willingly with > anyone who asks. > > So, let me be clear and say what I didn't say before. Ancestry is not my > favorite site for reasons posted here previously and I didn't seeing that > what I posted here ended up there. And yes, I know it came from here. > > This is my last message regarding this and apologize to the > board for my outburst. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Velma Beale" <velma.beale@axom.com> > To: <AUTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 10:17 PM > Subject: Re: [AUTRY] Re: AUTRY-D Digest V02 #6 > > > > The Taylors: > > Did you write the articles or get them from a public source? If they were > > available from a public source, how do you know these people didn't get > them > > there? You know, most of us who are unable to travel to all the original > > sources get a lot of our information on the internet and from e-mail > > contacts. By compiling it in our own family gedcom, we help to show the > > connections. So long as people try to give sources, I see nothing wrong > with > > sharing what we have ferreted out from many sources. It helps others get a > > start. Everyone who is researching genealogy should learn early on to look > > for sources cited and take everything with a grain of salt until they have > > checked original sources. > > > > I am always happy to share what I have with anyone, with the caveat that > it > > may be wrong, so check it out. Why are you so upset that someone is > helping > > you share information? Do you hope to sell it some day? I thought most > > genealogists in this country were trying hard to keep this information > > freely accessible to all. Also, you should know by now that anything you > > post on a website or a mailing list is going to be grabbed by all > interested > > parties and maybe even sold by the unscrupulous. > > > > I have been getting the same sort of complaints from someone on another > list > > I subscribe to and the list manager finally told them it was more > > appropriate to a geneology chat room than a family research list. I am > sorry > > you feel offended. I guess I just don't understand why you care, unless > you > > did write the articles and were not asked for permission or given credit. > In > > that case, you are right to be offended. > > > > I am having second thoughts about publishing my gedcom on the internet, if > > my sources are going to be offended, even with credit. > > > > By the way, no one ever told me that my name was published in a book, nor > > asked my permission. I found out when I purchased the Bundy/Brooks book. I > > was not offended. In fact, it was especially nice to see my parents and > > grandparents in there. > > > > Velma Shaw Beale > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "The Taylor's" <ctaylor@accesscom.net> > > To: <AUTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 9:33 PM > > Subject: Re: [AUTRY] Re: AUTRY-D Digest V02 #6 > > > > > > > Hi folks, you may remember that I posted a couple of articles here on > this > > > message board for all of us to enjoy regarding Simon Autry (KY) and > Giles > > > Autry (KY). Well, guess where I discovered them tonight....on > > Ancestry.com. > > > > > > Really ticks me off. > > > The gedcom belongs to: > > > Contact: Larry & Elaine Blackman <leblackm@bellsouth.net> > > > > > > > > > ==== AUTRY Mailing List ==== > > > Have you visited the Autr* genealogy page? It's full of information for > > all versions of the Autr* surname! Take a look at > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~autry/ > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== AUTRY Mailing List ==== > > Be sure to visit the Autry and Autrey surname message boards. They're at > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~autry/records/ at the bottom of the page. > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > ==== AUTRY Mailing List ==== > Did you know that the Autry page was mentioned in the October Issue of Family Tree Magazine? http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~autry > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi folks, you may remember that I posted a couple of articles here on this message board for all of us to enjoy regarding Simon Autry (KY) and Giles Autry (KY). Well, guess where I discovered them tonight....on Ancestry.com. Really ticks me off. The gedcom belongs to: Contact: Larry & Elaine Blackman <leblackm@bellsouth.net>

Judy Benjamin Moore and Nancy Autrey were married in Ferris, Tx. (not sure right now which county that was....just outside of Dallas) Sept. 4 1892. They moved to Duke, Okla. in 1897......Wilma

Please ignore the aberrant message re my tykping. Among other things, I obviously do not always identify my recipients carefully. Need new glasses? Blame it on old age, again.

One always has to interpret typing. I always too many k keys. A weak rt middle finger, I guess. I sometimes want to change, but it is so slow to send that I hate to start over. And it too 4 tries to get on line this am. Jean is off to beauty parlor and I go the Bum's club, a retired dr's club down at one of the hospitals that a friend keeps going. I get there most winter months. It is nice to see the old folks-at least, the ones left!!

What county and year was your Moore/Autrey marriage? Judy > From: Lasvgbrat@aol.com > Reply-To: AUTRY-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 22:18:39 EST > To: AUTRY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [AUTRY] Re: AUTRY-D Digest V02 #6 > Resent-From: AUTRY-L@rootsweb.com > Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 20:18:46 -0700 > > Doloris > My grandfather Benjamin Stark Moore b TN 1843 married Nancy C. Autrey b. > Texas. > The fact that it is a Moore/Autrey marriage was of interest to me... > > Wilma Moore Sanford > lasvgbrat@aol.com > > > ==== AUTRY Mailing List ==== > Did you know that the Autry page was mentioned in the October Issue of Family > Tree Magazine? http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~autry > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Doloris My grandfather Benjamin Stark Moore b TN 1843 married Nancy C. Autrey b. Texas. The fact that it is a Moore/Autrey marriage was of interest to me... Wilma Moore Sanford lasvgbrat@aol.com

Judy; Entering the names of sources is a matter of courtesy, and is also a good policy in that it grants an air of professionalism to ones work. I agree it should be utilized whenever possible. However; this is not the issue. What happened was, I felt, a violation of the Limited Use agreement of this web site. Apparently there's the assumption that your work is unique in that no one will copy your own posted work and re post it as their own. That is what happened in my case and why I initiated this action. On Sun, 03 Feb 2002 07:34:39 -0800 Judy Gyllenskog <jsavgyll@connpoint.net> writes: I've shared information that I have documented and I given sources and if a secondary source, I have given a page number and often library where found. So I am really perturbed when I discover my research on some ones web site and listed under the source: NOTES OF with my name. I feel that I come out looking like a fool..... Another time, someone contacted me for information on people that I had never even heard of. When I checked it out, I was listed as a source eleven times on a stranger's web site. At least, he had the courtesy to be embarrassed and remove my name. Well, I'm starting to sound like I am at a gripe session. Think I will concentrate on research and remember that it is all about learning about ancestors. In that process, there will be good and bad experiences. I have come across some wonderful people who have shared their research & knowledge. In turn, I have passed on my research. Judy. > > > > ==== AUTRY Mailing List ==== > Have you visited the Autr* genealogy page? It's full of information > for all versions of the Autr* surname! Take a look at > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~autry/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

Thanks for the corrections. I saved them, plus reduced them in order to print them out (after my husband showed me how) and put them in the book. Patricia Autrey Atkins Velma Beale wrote: > Thanks Andrea, even though none of these affect my part of the Culbreth line > (which could use some updating). Your efforts, nonetheless, are appreciated. > They are still interesting and in the cause of accuracy, I will print these > out and put them with the book. > > Velma Shaw Beale > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andréa" <autrey@serv.net> > To: <AUTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 4:03 PM > Subject: [AUTRY] Corrections to Autry book > > > Dr. Brooks sent me corrections to the Autry book (thank you!). I have > > these scanned in, and you may view them at > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~autry/corrections/ . > > > > -- > > > > Andréa Autrey Marshall > > Webmistress of the Autry Genealogy Page > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~autry/ > > My homepage > > http://www.dementedmind.com > > > > > > > > ==== AUTRY Mailing List ==== > > Have you visited the Autr* genealogy page? It's full of information for > all versions of the Autr* surname! Take a look at > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~autry/ > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > ==== AUTRY Mailing List ==== > Porcelain ornaments are still available with most of the spellings of the Autry surname on them. Take a look at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~autry/orn/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hello everyone, While genealogy piracy is a big pain in the rear, it's not really appropriate on a surname specific list. There are lots of general genealogy e-mail lists out there if you feel you need a place to discuss it. If there are any problems with this, please e-mail me privately at autrey@serv.net . If you e-mail the entire list, I will remove you from the list. I was hoping this thread would cool itself. Also, no more virus alerts. I mean it. I've really enjoyed the discussion on the changing of spelling to create the Autry surname variations. -- Andréa who has the flu Autrey Marshall

I've shared information that I have documented and I given sources and if a secondary source, I have given a page number and often library where found. So I am really perturbed when I discover my research on some ones web site and listed under the source: NOTES OF with my name. I feel that I come out looking like a fool..... Another time, someone contacted me for information on people that I had never even heard of. When I checked it out, I was listed as a source eleven times on a stranger's website. At least, he had the courtesy to be embarrassed and remove my name. Well, I'm starting to sound like I am at a gripe session. Think I will concentrate on research and remember that it is all about learning about ancestors. In that process, there will be good and bad experiences. I have come across some wonderful people who have shared their research & knowledge. In turn, I have passed on my research. Judy

For whatever it's worth, I really don't mind if someone shares info I've passed along as long as it's info about obviously deceased individuals....BUT it is a huge violation to have info about living family distributed & posted everywhere...what a violation! In a message dated 2/2/2002 11:55:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, wja4032@bossig.com writes: << Subj: Re: [AUTRY] Re: Unidentified subject! Date: 2/2/2002 11:55:44 PM Eastern Standard Time From: wja4032@bossig.com (Bill & Juanita Autry) Reply-to: AUTRY-L@rootsweb.com To: AUTRY-L@rootsweb.com I have to agree that it is a mess. I refuse to give it to anybody that will charge for it also, so I guess there are more of us than I thought. And I have tried to get things removed by other individuals and it is impossible.RE: my 7 yr old grandaughter. Who would have thought? and it is not even on a family web site! Juanita ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard G Autry" <richardautry1@juno.com> To: <AUTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 7:09 PM Subject: Re: [AUTRY] Re: Unidentified subject! > Deaar Marlyne; > What a wonderful name! As a result of this incident, I've > become the second most loathsome creature I can think of in regard to > genealogy work. I'll share info on particular individuals when > requested, I'll tell you how I came across the info and where you can get > it, or send you copies, I'll sell what I've completed. But I won't > download GEDCOM. Let this be a lesson to all of us. By the way, the > worst is the genealogy pirate. > On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 16:13:44 -0800 (PST) Marlyne Natali > <marlyne_natali@yahoo.com> writes: > > I wasn't in on the beginning of this message so I > > don't know how or why it started. I can add something > > to this though. I also have had my work put on WFT and > > other sites. I tell everyone that not everything has > > been verified and I include it just to see if others > > can verify it or correct it. Unfortunately these > > people add it to the internet as is and others take it > > as fact and continue adding it to internet sites as > > there work. Some of this information is wrong. I have > > made corrections but this wrong information continues >>

I have to agree that it is a mess. I refuse to give it to anybody that will charge for it also, so I guess there are more of us than I thought. And I have tried to get things removed by other individuals and it is impossible.RE: my 7 yr old grandaughter. Who would have thought? and it is not even on a family web site! Juanita ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard G Autry" <richardautry1@juno.com> To: <AUTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 7:09 PM Subject: Re: [AUTRY] Re: Unidentified subject! > Deaar Marlyne; > What a wonderful name! As a result of this incident, I've > become the second most loathsome creature I can think of in regard to > genealogy work. I'll share info on particular individuals when > requested, I'll tell you how I came across the info and where you can get > it, or send you copies, I'll sell what I've completed. But I won't > download GEDCOM. Let this be a lesson to all of us. By the way, the > worst is the genealogy pirate. > On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 16:13:44 -0800 (PST) Marlyne Natali > <marlyne_natali@yahoo.com> writes: > > I wasn't in on the beginning of this message so I > > don't know how or why it started. I can add something > > to this though. I also have had my work put on WFT and > > other sites. I tell everyone that not everything has > > been verified and I include it just to see if others > > can verify it or correct it. Unfortunately these > > people add it to the internet as is and others take it > > as fact and continue adding it to internet sites as > > there work. Some of this information is wrong. I have > > made corrections but this wrong information continues > > to perpertuate itself. This makes research for all of > > us very confusing when we try to put these families > > together. Right now my Autry family is a mess due to > > all the wrong information out there. > > > > Marlyne > > --- "JOHN D. ADAMS" <norm@web-access.net> wrote: > > > Richard, > > > > > > Don't feel like you are the only one that has been > > > duped by a pirate. One of > > > my "cousins" (had never met her) asked me for my > > > work that has been on going > > > for the last ten years. I (dumbly) sent it to her > > > and she posted everything > > > all over WFT, Ancestry.Com and you name it, I didn't > > > want it posted yet > > > because there were some things in it I wanted to > > > prove and back up with the > > > deeds and papers. She entered it and said she had > > > only been doing genealogy > > > for 18 months or something like that. I really > > > burned on that comment. So if > > > you happen to see anything from jshorton its > > > probably mine. > > > > > > Leona Adams > > > > > > From: "Richard G Autry" <richardautry1@juno.com> > > > To: <AUTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 11:16 PM > > > Subject: Unidentified subject! > > > > > > > > > > Here's how that situation turned out with that > > > pirate thing. I got the > > > > impression from this that Ancestry doesn't really > > > care about this issue. > > > > > > > > Kan > > > > I sent the joker an e-mail demanding he > > > remove the list > > > > containing my work from the tree. And now I will > > > take it too you. I > > > > want everything he put on that contains any > > > duplication of my work off > > > > the WFT. Also I have another list with my name > > > that I can't seem to > > > > remove, 1463162. I would like that off also. > > > Once this matter is > > > > settled to my satisfaction, I will discontinue all > > > association with the > > > > WFT. > > > > > > > > On Wed, 23 Jan 2002 13:00:12 -0700 Kana > > > <kana@myfamilyinc.com> writes: > > > > > Dear Richard, > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for your e-mail. > > > > > > > > > > We regret the difficult circumstances you have > > > encountered on > > > > > Ancestry.com. There is not anything we can do > > > to solve your > > > > > dilemma. > > > > > Ancestry.com members are open to post any > > > information to the site. > > > > > > > > > > However, we are always trying to improve the > > > experience of our > > > > > Ancestry.com members. In fact, we have many > > > site enhancement > > > > > projects > > > > > underway, but we certainly welcome comments like > > > yours at any time. > > > > > We > > > > > believe your feedback has merit and will forward > > > it to our > > > > > development > > > > > team for consideration. If you notice any other > > > improvements that > > > > > can > > > > > be made to enhance your experience, please feel > > > free to contact us > > > > > again. > > > > > > > > > > If there is anything else we can assist you > > > with, please let us > > > > > know. > > > > > > > > > > Ana > > > > > Customer Solutions > > > > > MyFamily.com / Ancestry.com > > > > > E-mail: support@myfamilyinc.com > > > > > support@ancestry.com > > > > > > > > > > "Connecting and Strengthening Families Through > > > The World Wide Web" > > > > > > > > > > Get Free Family History Tips, News and Updates! > > > Sign up for the > > > > > Ancestry Daily News at www.ancestry.com > > > > > > > > > > Learn about ING DIRECT's The Orange Savings > > > Account. Great rates, > > > > > no fees, no minimums, no market risk and a $25 > > > opening bonus. > > > > > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=INGsupport > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Original message follows: > > > > > ------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > Form Message > > > > > Form Name: Ancestry Report Form > > > > > Full Name: Richard G. Autry > > > > > Username: richardautry > > > > > Email Address: richardautry1@juno.com > > > > > Topic: Other > > > > > Description: Richard G. Autry > > > > > 420 A Kentucky St. SE > > > > > Albuquerque, NM 87108-4595 > > > > > richardautry1@juno.com > > > > > 22 Jan, 2002 > > > > > Sir; > > > > > I had posted a rather large piece of > > > work on Ancestry.com > > > > > under the > > > > > names of Autree and 1463162 . While using the > > > Tree in further > > > > > research > > > > > of my family history I had noticed another tree > > > which continued to > > > > > pop > > > > > up using the names which > > > > > I had been researching and had already loaded > > > into my trees, > > > > > utilizing > > > > > names, all of which included, but were not > > > limited to; Archuleta, > > > > > Autry, > > > > > Carter, Chaves, Cuellar, Garcia, Otero, Richter, > > > Shingledecker, > > > > > Walker, > > > > > and numerous others going back some 400 years. > > > > > > > > > > The sources of this tree is someone by the > > > name of Jesse > > > > > Rivera, > > > > > who is posting this material in the name of > > > jayrivera, which to a > > > > > large > > > > > portion, is a virtual mirror image of my own > > > work, and parallels all > > > > > the > > > > > research I had done and for which I have > > > documentation. Upon > > > > > noticing > > > > > this, I checked most of the other files for > > > which I have done > > > > > research > > > > > on and found that this pirate showed up right > > > alongside my work, > > > > > thereby > > > > > tarnishing my work as being a copy of one of > > > his. > > > > > A person such as this, is in my opinion, > > > vermin - plain and > > > > > simple > > > > > vermin, and shows slovenly work and will add any > > > name which is > > > > > similar > > > > > to the one he is working on - so long as it fits > > > in the hole - so > > > > > long > > > > > as he doesn¡¦t have to verify the names and > > > dates, and requires very > > > > > > > > > > little research on his part. > > > > > I had posted my tree under the > > > assumption that my research > > > > > would remain > > > > > unique, but to me this is just simply plagiarism > > > and piracy of all > > > > > my > > > > > research and is offensive to me, and I feel it > > > is a violation of the > > > > > > > > > > Limited Use agreement of this website. > > > > > As a result of this, I have chosen to no > > > longer share my > > > > > research in > > > > > this site, under the perspective that if they > > > want it they can go > > > > > down > > > > > the genealogy library and dredge it up > > > themselves, or purchase their > > > > > own > > > > > documents as I have. > > > > > I look forward to your reply and a > > > resolution of this > > > > > matter. > > > > > Yours; > > > > > Richard G. 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I have been most interested in the Autry name for quite a while also. I have one reference to a Roland MacAughtrie who was a Scottish clan chief in Kirkudsbrightshire Scotland in 1199! Regardless of the spelling, that would have to be pronounced MacAutry! Marshall Autry

I looked on line and came accross a website which claims that Daughtrey/Daughtry is sometimes a variation of the Scot name O'Dochartaigh (or without the O) pronounounced DOCKH-har-tay, My understanding of the reason for thinking Daughtr(e)y was a variation of Autr(e)y was because of the D'Autr(e)y variation. If some of us knew the origins of the family lines, I'm sure we would have a better idea of the original version of the name. It is also likely that some Daughtr(e)ys came from one source and some from another and the names ended up the same or similar after coming to this country. This is probably a fruitless discussion without more documentation, but it spurs some historical interest and questions of origin. Velma Shaw Beale ----- Original Message ----- From: <RAB55@aol.com> To: <AUTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 11:26 PM Subject: Re: [AUTRY] Corrections to Autry book > That is a most interesting thought. Knowing how people misspellnames, it is > possible that Daughtry got shortened to Aughtey to Autry etc. After all, > most of the people were illiterate and scribes wrote the wills, etc. > Perhaps Cornelius Autry et al of Edgecombe Co, NC, came via VA, as so many > did, and did not enter the country de novo. > As Mayo recorded in his books, there were "Autrys" around before Cornelius, > but no one knows their descendants etc. > Robert Autry Brooks > > > ==== AUTRY Mailing List ==== > Be sure to visit the Autry and Autrey surname message boards. They're at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~autry/records/ at the bottom of the page. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

In Mahan Blair Autry's book, he states that Daughtry and variances of it sometimes derived from the Autry name, due to ignorance, illiteracy, etc. of record keepers. Others are Autery, Ottry, etc.