Take anything I said about Absalom Autry with a grain of salt. I was repeating other people's "stuff". I haven't seen the sources cited listing him as a Tory LT. I do know, however, that he (or at any rate *an* Absalom Autry, is also listed on the Georgia militia rolls as a spy in the early 1780s. I have seen that in a published reference. In those days, a spy was what we would now call a scout or ranger... and this is in the period where Georgia still was a sovereign state with many functions still intact that were later given to the national government under the U.S. constitution (1789). I find this reference to Captain Joseph Cravey quite interesting, however. I haven't done any research on the Craveys, but about 2 to 3 years ago my 3-great grandmother Sarah wife of Joseph Davis was finally identified definitely as Sarah Cravey, a daughter of Owen Cravey, Jr. Amongst my Davis relatives, there are any number named Hugh Craven or Hugh Cravey (often rendered as "H.C.")... apparently through time the Cravey had become corrupted to Craven... but there is some reason that so many Davises have been named that same name generation after generation... and maybe some day I'll discover what it was. <G> RW PaWZake@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 05/10/2003 5:22:33 PM Central Daylight Time, RAB55@aol.com >writes: > > > >>Pam's comments reminded me of why Cousin Mayo Bundy listed him as "Absalom >>Tory Officer". He got some very decided letters informing him that "there >>were no Tory officers in my family". I guess he ignored them?? >> >> >More documentation > >From: Loyalists in the Southern Campaign of the Revolutionary War. by >Murtie June Clark: pg 411 >Pay Abstract Nr __, Colonel David Fanning's Regiment, Loyal Militia from >North Carolina, Captain Joseph Cravey's Company, 549-days pay, 1 Mar 1781-30 >Sept 1782 > Nr Rank Name Remarks > 1 Captain Cravey, Joseph > 2 " Smally, Abner > 1 Lieutenant Autry, Absalom 2 " Ellit, >James > 1 Private Back, Abram > 2 " Ellet, Thomas > attest: David Fanning, Colonel > (Note: These men are determined to go to St. Augustine, FL.) > >>From The State Records of NC Vol XXII pg. 196 >THE NAMES OF THE COMPANIES OF RANDOLPH COUNTY, AS THEY WAS COMMISSIONED IN >THEIR DIFFERENT COMPANIES. > 5. Robert Turner, Capt. in N.C. > Absolem Autrey, Lt. in Florida > Wm. King, Ens. joined the Rebels > >Notes from Research Guide to Loyalist Ancestors by Paul J. Bunnell: >paraphrased Many Loyalists fled to Florida while being chased by the Rebels. > About 12,000 Loyalists fled to east Florida. "The Georgians and Carolinians >were not the only Loyalists to flee to Florida." By 1783, there was a >"strong Loyalist community" around St. Augustine. When they left, some went >to Providence Island in the Bahamas, to England, some stayed to live under >the Spanish rule and other found their way back to US and Canada. > >"462 whites ...returned to the US/" > 725 whites...went to Nova Scotia > 1033 whites....went to the Bahamas." > 421 white.. went to... the Caribbean " > 245 whites...possibly went to England" > 61 whites...went to other foreign countries." > >Richard White stated ( in 1998) that Absalom served under Capt. Turner as a >Tory officer in Florida. Stated he was born 1731 or 33 in NC, moved to >Buncombe Co., NC then Rutherford Co, NC and finally settled in Ala 1806-1807 >and died in St. Clair Co., Ala. > > >Pam >

INFO: Colonial Records of NO, Vol 4. page 454 At a council held at the 5th of June, 1740, Present His Excellency the Governoe and The Honorable North Rice, Robt. Halton, Math Brown, Robert Moore, Eleazx Allen, Alex Autray was granted 110 acres in Beaufort Co.

I am sure that you already have these, but just in case-- 1763 Pitt Co., NC Deed Book B page 392 Deeds land to William Page Autry 1767 Deed was found to William Autry with Alexander Autry having land adjoining. 1774 Deed land to William Page Autry Book F, page 432 Pam

1789 Greene Co, Ga from Georgia Tax Digests 1789-1799 Alexander and Absalom 009 for both Also from "The Reconstructed 1790 Census of Ga." by Lamar and Rothstein 3 April 1790 Alexander Awtry of Greene Co to Absalum Awtry of same, for 30 pds. specie, 30 acres on the W side of Sandy Creek, in Washington Co., when surveyed, granted the said Alexander Awtry 8 June 1785. Signed: Alexr. Awtry. Wit: Wm. Wammack, William Phillips. Proved 7 Jan 1781 before O. Porter J.P. Reg. 13 Jan 1791 20 Dec 1790 Enoch Stringfellow of Green Co, to Douglas Wattson of Wilkes, for 100 pds. sterling, 250 acres bounded N. by Oconee River; adj. Capt. Elexander Autry, Michael Cup & Absalom Autry. Signed: Enoch (X) Strinfellow. Wit: Oliver Porter, J.P. Rec. 28 Mar 1791 " Some Ga. Records Vol. 2 Rev. Silas Emmet Lucas, Jr. pg 447-448" 14 Sept 1792 Lambeth Hopkins of Greens Co., to Joshua Browning of same, for 150 pds. lawful money, 2871/2 acres in Green Co., orig. granted the said Hopkins 23 June 1790, adj. John Fielder and Oconee River. Signed: Lambeth Hopkins. Wit: James (X) Fileder, Absolem (X) Autrey. "Some Ga. Records Vol. 2 Rev. Silas Emmet Lucas, Jr pgs 663-664" Pam

1800 Absalem Autrey Autrey, Absalem State: North Carolina Year: 1800 County: Rutherford Township: Unknown Townships Page: 94

2 July 1798 Greene Co Ga Absalem Autrey and Lucy his wife to Leonard Barnett, both of Greene Co., for $200, 200 acres on the S side of Sandy Creek in said county; part of a tract granted the said Autry 6 Mar 1793: adj. Autrey's old line, the mouth of Sandy Creek. Signed: Absom. (X) Autry, Lucy (X) Autrey. Wit: John Barnett, Joseph (X) Jones, Richd. Copeland J.P. Reg. 29 Aug 1800 "Some Georgia Co. Records Bol. 2 Rev. Silas Emmet Lucas, Jr. page 481-482"

1820 Greene Co., Ga Absolem, Jacob, John and Runnels (Reynolds) Awtry are enumerated in census Isaac Autry and Jacob and John Awtry were enumerated 1820 in Walton County, Ga Alexander and Isaac in Morgan County, Ga Don't know if you can use this, but don't have the censuses right before me. Pam

1830 Hardemann Co, TN has Hiram Autry 311oooo1 1121001 1837 State & Territorial Census of Tishimingo Co., MS H. Autry E. Autry 1840 census Awtery, Hiram State: Georgia Year: 1840 County: Morgan Township: District 280 Page: 230 Males: -5=1 20-29=1 Females -6=1 5-9=1 20-19=1 Autry, Hiram State: Kentucky Year: 1840 County: Monroe Township: Unknown Townships Page: 245 Males: 30-39=1 Pam

State of Arkansas Sevier Court of Probate in ??? County of Sevier September 25, 1857 In the Matter of the Estate of On for grant of Hiram Autrey Sr decd By Letter of Admin on said John Owens Estate This day came John Owen of Sevier County and presented and filed the of James M Falkner in right of his wife Mary former Mary Autrey, Elizabeth Lynch, and John Autrey and Hiram A Autrey {this name written in above rest of sentence} Children and heirs of the said Hiram Autrey decd to their right to administer said estate and desired that Letters of Administration be granted to the said John Owens, ??? And therefore the said John Owens presented his petition for Letters of Administration on said Estate. Upon the reading and filing of it appears that Hiram Autrey Senr. late of said County of Sevier departed this life on the 9th day of September 1857 intestate, leaving John Autrey, Hiram Autrey, Mary Falkner and Elizabeth Lynch with four other heirs not known to said petitioner. That since the death of Said deceased said petitioner has purchased the interest of four of said heirs. In consideration whereof it is ordered by me Henry G Rinds. as clerk of said Court of Probate that John Owen be appointed administrator on said estate upon his making as required by Law and enter into bond to the State of Arkansas in the Sum of Four Thousand dollars. Conditions according to ??? the faithful discharge of his duties as such administrator with Stephan M Ola and Robert Larry as his securities. Whereupon the said John Owens made such affidavit and presented such bonds and was appointed administrator on the Estate of the said Hiram Autrey decd. And it is further ordered that said appointment and bond be presented to the Court of Probate at the next Term for Confirmation and Approval Teste H G Rind Clerk State of Arkansas Clerks office Sevier Court of Probate County of Sevier in September 25 1857 In the matter of the On petition to sell the Estate of Hiram A Autrey decd By personal property, belonging John Owens to said Estate. This day came said Admin and filed a paper writing in the words and figures as follows. Vi To the honorable Probate Court of Sevier County in of said Court Your petitioner John Owens Shows that he is the administrator on the Estate of Hiram A Autrey late of Said County of Sevier and State of Arkansas deceased. That said deceased died possessed of Considerable personal property that is running at large in the woods and liable to scatter about and become wasted and lost to said Estate. Said Estate consisting of Cattle Hogs Sheep, 3 or 4 horses. That said deceased owes some debts that it will be necessary to pay. Therefore our petitioner prays that an order of Court be granted him to sell some personal property in accordance to Law and in duty bound will ever pay & John Owens RECORD SEVIER COUNTY OF PROBATE Having Examined the Written petition of John Owens Admin of the Estate of Hiram A Autrey decd and being Satisfied that it would be to the interest of said Estate that the prayer of Said petition should be granted. It therefore ordered by me that the said Admin have leave to Sell the personal property belonging to Said Estate, giving the notice required by law and that this order together with the petition be entered Record by he Clerk in David Foran Judge S.F.C. Which petition and order is now here duly of Record in accordance with the afore order. Teste H G Rind Clerk Filed 25th day of September 1857 H G Rind Clerk Administrative Settlement Book B State of Arkansas Sevier Probate Court July County of Sevier Term 1867 Benjamin G. Parker administrator of ?? ?? and of the Estate of Hiram Autrey deceased in account current with said estate charges himself as follows to wit: To acct on hand at last settlement Administrative settlement Book B filed Nov 13th 1861 $1114.68 ?? he claims credit By ?? voucher No. 1 $9.10 And he claims credit by the following default notes On A. Brumley for 43.32 W. Baker " 17.79 John Barty " 9.67 James m. Russy " 62.37 James M. Russy " bolver 8.00 A. Fuller " 7.50 N J Gibin 7.15 J L P Boll 71.00 B W Yates 88.00 273.86 Deduct credit from debit leaves 840.82 By covered on acct effective 6/15@ 6.11 Balance on hand 834.71 and said admin. shows that the above amount is in notes and that he is making every effort to collect the same. Ben. G Parker admt. ?????? Pam

1850 Sevier Co., Ark Sheet 204 B/Line 37 James Gideon 32 Ky farmer Olivia 22 Ark Bertha says this is Olina Nancy 5 Ark Rebecca 2 Ark John C 1/12 Ark Wesley James 21 Ark laborer Edward Graham 37 Ten laborer Hiram Autrey 78 NC Son Hiram A Autrey is next.

Hiram A. Autrey (one born abt 1771 and md to Polly Fox) 1813 August 25 to Sept 30 Muster Roll for War of 1812 Commencement of Service Aug 25 181 lists him present and 6 mo for time engaged on Company Muster Roll Captain Wilson McKinney's Co. of Volunteer Infantry, 1 Reg't Georgia Militia 1813 August 1813 to March 1814 Company Pay Roll for War of 1812 Commencement of Service Aug. 25, 1813 Expiration of service for this settlement March 4, 1814 Term of service charge 6 months 10 days Pay per month 8 dollars Amount of pay 53 dollars, 50 cents listed as private 1813-14 Sept 30,1813-March 4, 1814 on Company Muster Roll Roll dated Milledgeville Mar 4, 1814 Commencement of service Aug 25, 1813 Expiration of Service Mar 4, 1814 Present listed as pvt Pam

1850 Sevier County, Ark Census Autry Hiram, Jr. 25 MISP farmer Matilda 18 Ark William 3 Ark Nancy 1 Ark 1860 Sevier County, Ark Census Autry Hiram 30 TENN Farmer 800 1100 Matilda 28 Ark William 13 Ark Nancy 11 Enic 8 James 8 Alfred 6 John 5 Mary 4/12 or 9/12 1870 Census Bear Creek Twp, DeQueen, Sevier Co., AR/Stamp pg 246 AUTREY, Hiram 45 TN Matilda 43 AR James 18 AR Alfred 16 AR John 14 AR Hiram 12 AR Mary 10 AR Sarah 08 AR Callie 06 AR Frances 02 AR *************************************************************************** 1880 Census Lamar County, Texas/ED 78/Pct 4/St Pg 160B & 161A/Pg 49/Line 50 AUTREY Hiram 54 MS/MS/MS Farming Tilda 49 AR/AR/AR Cally 14 AR/MS/AR Farm work Hiram A. 22 AR/MS/AR Farming Manta 11 AR/MS/AR ___________________________________________________________________________ On the 1900 Census Sevier Co.,AR/Vol 36/ED 149/Sheet 24/Line13/Bear Creek Twp. AUTREY Hiram May 1826 74 MS Matilda Feb 1830 70 AR CLAY Minty/Dtr/ Nov 1870 29 AR RUSSEL, Hiram A.GS Feb 1893 7 AR TATUM, Matilda M./GD Oct 1898 1 AR Pam

1880 Wood Co., Tx Census 4 23 Autrey Alford 28 Ark Tenn Ark farmer Dizy 28 Tenn Tenn Tenn Wright Joe Lee 13 Tx Tenn Tenn stepson Robert A 8 Tx Tenn Tenn stepson Autrey Claudius 3 Tx Ark Tenn son James J 1 Tx Ark Tenn son 1900 Wood Co., Tx Census Vol 115 E.D. 144 Sheet 25 Line 51 Autrey A.R. 12/1854 Ark Ark Ark Dizy 2/1848 Tn Ark TN Lewis 10/1881 Tx May 6/1884 Tx Autrey, Alfred R Age: 66 Year: 1920 Birthplace: Arkansas Race: White Page: 6A State: Texas ED: 112 County: Upshur Township: Precinct 3 Autrey Alfred R 66 Ark Tn Ark Eula V 40 Tx Ala Tx Eulah E 13 tx Fred L 11 Cynthia A 9

1900 Wood Co., Tx Census Vol 115 E.D. 144 Sheet 25 Line 51 Autrey A.R. 12/1854 Ark Dizy 2/1848 Tn Lewis 10/1881 Tx May 6/1884 Tx 1910 Franklin Co., Tx Census E D 53 Sheet 26a Vol 52 Autrey Lewis O 28 Lillian 30 George D 7 Jewell 5 James O 3 Etta L 2 Mary 0 1920 Franklin Co., Tx Census Vol 65/ED 58/Sheet 11 Line 23 Autrey L.O.L. 38 TX Ark US Lilla 39 TX Ala Ga Dewey 17 TX Jewell 15 TX Oran 13 TX\ Etta lee 10 TX Golda 9 TX Lolan 8 TX Gay 4 TX

George Dewey Autrey. my grandfather and a little note about him. Individual: Autrey, George Social Security #: 458-38-8385 SS# issued in: Texas Birth Date: Sep 25, 1902 Death Date: Dec 10,1988 ZIP Code of last known residence: 75494 Primary location associated with this ZIP Code: Winnsboro, Texas Grandaddy loved to play baseball. He was quite good as a pitcher. One time the family was at a revival under an arbor at Cypress Baptist Church. All of a sudden he stood up and threw his billford toward the pulpit. There was a copperhead heading toward the pulpit and he killed it with his throw. The preacher was really young and he went white and said something about the devil being after him.

In a message dated 05/10/2003 5:22:33 PM Central Daylight Time, RAB55@aol.com writes: > Pam's comments reminded me of why Cousin Mayo Bundy listed him as "Absalom > Tory Officer". He got some very decided letters informing him that "there > were no Tory officers in my family". I guess he ignored them?? More documentation From: Loyalists in the Southern Campaign of the Revolutionary War. by Murtie June Clark: pg 411 Pay Abstract Nr __, Colonel David Fanning's Regiment, Loyal Militia from North Carolina, Captain Joseph Cravey's Company, 549-days pay, 1 Mar 1781-30 Sept 1782 Nr Rank Name Remarks 1 Captain Cravey, Joseph 2 " Smally, Abner 1 Lieutenant Autry, Absalom 2 " Ellit, James 1 Private Back, Abram 2 " Ellet, Thomas attest: David Fanning, Colonel (Note: These men are determined to go to St. Augustine, FL.) From The State Records of NC Vol XXII pg. 196 THE NAMES OF THE COMPANIES OF RANDOLPH COUNTY, AS THEY WAS COMMISSIONED IN THEIR DIFFERENT COMPANIES. 5. Robert Turner, Capt. in N.C. Absolem Autrey, Lt. in Florida Wm. King, Ens. joined the Rebels Notes from Research Guide to Loyalist Ancestors by Paul J. Bunnell: paraphrased Many Loyalists fled to Florida while being chased by the Rebels. About 12,000 Loyalists fled to east Florida. "The Georgians and Carolinians were not the only Loyalists to flee to Florida." By 1783, there was a "strong Loyalist community" around St. Augustine. When they left, some went to Providence Island in the Bahamas, to England, some stayed to live under the Spanish rule and other found their way back to US and Canada. "462 whites ...returned to the US/" 725 whites...went to Nova Scotia 1033 whites....went to the Bahamas." 421 white.. went to... the Caribbean " 245 whites...possibly went to England" 61 whites...went to other foreign countries." Richard White stated ( in 1998) that Absalom served under Capt. Turner as a Tory officer in Florida. Stated he was born 1731 or 33 in NC, moved to Buncombe Co., NC then Rutherford Co, NC and finally settled in Ala 1806-1807 and died in St. Clair Co., Ala. Pam

In a message dated 05/10/2003 4:55:17 PM Central Daylight Time, RAB55@aol.com writes: > I wonder if the Hiram A Autry mentioned by Pam Lain could be son of John C > Autry? Although the birth date is too early per the info that I had in the > Culbreth/Autry book. > By the way, I have 7 Hirams and don't even have the one you mentioned. Pam

In a message dated 05/10/2003 4:55:17 PM Central Daylight Time, RAB55@aol.com writes: > I wonder if the Hiram A Autry mentioned by Pam Lain could be son of John C > Autry? Although the birth date is too early per the info that I had in the > Culbreth/Autry book. Hi Robert--the Hiram A that I had info on was the one > that was born in May 1826 and his father was Hiram A who was born in 1771 > and married Polly Fox. His father was Absalom born about 1740 in Edgecombe > Co., NC --along with the rest of the Autrey crew--who married Lucy (which > we have gone round and round on which Lucy she was) How does that fit in > with your info? Pam > >

Pam's comments reminded me of why Cousin Mayo Bundy listed him as "Absalom Tory Officer". He got some very decided letters informing him that "there were no Tory officers in my family". I guess he ignored them?? After 200+ years, we will never solve the question. Robert Autry Brooks

From the info from Pam received after I wrote the prior question, it would appear that this Autrey family was from the group in Eastern Ark. Many of these were descendantas of Cpt John C Autry or perhaps Absalom as suggested. Robert Autry Brooks