Pam Lain cited several sources for Absolom's British service. Another is by Bobby Gilmer Moss, The Loyalists At Kings Mountain, 1998, Scotia-Hibernia Press, 519 Batchelor Dr., Blacksberg SC 92704. On page 4, Aughtry, Absolum (Autery) was commissioned lieutenant by Ferguson in July 1780 and was in the battle of Kings Mountain. Fanning appointed him lieutenent under Capt. Robert Turner on 12 July 1781 in the Randolph County Militia. At the evacuation of Charleston, he went to East Florida. [CO [Colonial Office] 5/560/406; NC State, XXII, 196; Butler, 40. I checked Florida records. St. Augustine is in St. John Co in FL. In 1783, when the Spanish took Florida back from the British, a complete census was conducted and records each householder's decision to stay (and swear allegience to the Spanish King and apparently convert to the Catholic faith) or go to other British territories or elsewhere (sometimes to GA). This census has been partially transcribed and generously placed on the Florida GenWeb site. Neither David Fanning nor Absolom is listed so I am assuming that their section of the census has not been transcribed. David fanning was in Canada by 1784. The reference to Absolom on the Balfour site is found in "Col. David Fanning's Narrative" in the chapter on the death of Col. Balfour and the later section on the descendants of Absolom Autrey. Part of the outrage at Col. Fanning and his men was perhaps due to the fact that Cornwallis had already surrendered and peace terms were being worked out.

Tieing into the discussion on Autry/Autrey origins, in the Index to "Ye Colonial Kinsmen from Plymouth Rocke to York Towne" by Joseph N. Kearney (initial issue, no date), published by Roadmaps-Thru-History Assoc, located in the LDS Los Angeles Family History Center Library, there is a list of Dutch first names and the English equivalent; I am sure similar lists are available on the net. "Cornelis" is the Dutch form of "Cornelius" and "Neeltje" is the Dutch form for "Cornelia". So perhaps the 1801 Marriage Bond reflects that Cornelius called himself "Nelis" or that the name the County Clerk knew him was Nelus. Any one from a Southern family which repeats names across generations can imagine that the Clerk might have known "Nelus" Otry and Little "Nany" Eaves personally under those names instead of thteir real given names. Is there any primary source using "Cornelis" or "Cornelus" that might have been regarded as a misspelling of "Cornelius"? The way the name was pronounced ! may indicate later immigration than the pre-1730s Autrey Brothers and lends credence to Cornelius' father being the immigrant. -----Original Message----- From: Milyel@aol.com Sent: Mar 25, 2004 4:52 PM To: AUTRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUTRY] Re: AUTRY-D Digest V04 #13 Robin, my great great grandfather, Cornelius Autrey (sometimes Autry), was married in Rutherford County, NC, 9 June 1801, and his marriage was recorded as: Nelus Otry m. Nany (Nancy) Eaves. One of his sons spelled his name Awtrey, and that line has consistently used that spelling. Mildred Yelverton ==== AUTRY Mailing List ==== Have you visited the Autrey Heritage page? It's at http://www.autreyheritage.com/

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/idB.2ACEB/241 Message Board Post: My grandmother, and family who knew him, are looking for any information that might pretain to him. My grandmother says that he simply disappered without a trace, he was my grandfathers uncle. Married to Camille HUBBARD fathered two girls, Patsy and Ann Autrey, before disappearing. The family is very interested in what might have come of him. Please anyone with any information please contact me plhckc@yahoo.com. Thank you for your time. Sincerely, Pamela Autrey-Hatten

Regarding the origin of Cornelius Autry, Immigrant, in the first pages of the First Chapter of the Autry/Culbreth book, Mayo Bundy discusses the origin. Cousin Mayo spent 60 years hunting the origin of Cornelius, but never felt he found it. He does mention that a Capt Autry was in the navy off the Americas in 1585. He also comments that an Alex Autray was in NC 16 yrs before any mention of Cornelius. He could have been a brother, father or unrelated. He also comments on the possible Irish connection. I think Mayo may be correct in that they could have come to England with William the Conqueror abt 1066, since so many French names in GB derive from that. So the mystery goes on. If it solved, I think it will have to be in England/Ireland/Scotland, if it can be solved at all. Robert Autry Brooks

In a message dated 3/28/04 9:15:22 PM Pacific Standard Time, plhckc@yahoo.com writes: do a search on the "Autrey House", it might help some. Thank You PAM, I will. I appreciate the information. jIMMY

In a message dated 3/28/04 8:55:21 PM Pacific Standard Time, autrey@serv.net writes: what documentation do you have that Cornelius was born in France? Sorry! I have no documentation - nor do I know anyone that does. This information was given to me by Veronica (AUTRY) SERMANS >nursing@brightok.net< who also stated: First of our Autry line to come to America. Occupation Planter - Bought 160 acres for 35 pounds - Edgecombe/Pitt Co., NC Wish I had more. jIMMY

I have these names also. Do You think they may be connected? jIMMY HARRIS Descendants of Cornelius Autry 1 Cornelius Autry 1720 - 1770 b: Abt. 1720 in Haute Saone Province, France d: Abt. 1770 in Pitt Co., NC ....... 2 Elijah Autry ....... 2 Elizabeth Autry ....... 2 Jacob Autry b: in GA ....... 2 Mary Autry ....... 2 Rachel Autry ....... 2 John Autry 1735 - 1788 b: 1735 in NC d: February 02, 1788 in Sholes, GA ........... +Elizabeth Ann m: 1756 ................ 3 Alexander Autry ................ 3 Martha Autry ................ 3 Elixabeth Autry ................ 3 John Jr Autry ................ 3 Solomon Autry ................ 3 Agnes Autry ................ 3 Priscilla Autry ................ 3 Jacob Autry 1756 - 1827 b: Abt. 1756 d: Abt. 1827 ....... 2 Absalom Autry 1740 - 1806 b: 1740 in NC d: 1806 ........... +Naomi Lucy Camp ................ 3 Cornelius Autry ....... *2nd Wife of Absalom Autry: ........... +Polly Blasengame ....... 2 James Autry 1742 - 1828 b: 1742 in Edgewick,, NC d: Abt. 1828 in TN ........... +Unknown ................ 3 Elijah Autry 1767 - 1830 b: 1767 in North Carolina d: 1830 in Tennesse .................... +Unknown 1771 - b: 1771 in North Carolina ................ 3 Federick Autry 1778 - 1835 b: 1778 in NC d: October 12, 1835 in Wilcox Co., AL .................... +Elizabeth Hampden ................ 3 Alexander Autry 1780 - 1857 b: January 04, 1780 in NC d: September 22, 1857 in Conecuh Co., AL .................... +Parthenia B. Irvin m: March 03, 1803 in NC ....... 2 Alexander Autry 1743 - 1781 b: Abt. 1743 d: Abt. 1781 ....... 2 William Page Autry 1745 - 1790 b: 1745 d: 1790 ........... +Rachael m: 1765 ................ 3 Newsom Autry ....... 2 Cornelius Jr Autry 1747 - 1810 b: Abt. 1747 in Pitt Co., NC d: 1810 in Sampson Co., NC ........... +Sophia Keen 1751 - b: Abt. 1751 m: 1765 ....... 2 Drury Autry 1749 - 1808 b: 1749 in NC d: 1808 in Sampson Co., NC ....... 2 Isom Isham Autry 1750 - 1810 b: 1750 in NC d: Bef. 1810 ....... 2 Martha Autry 1753 - 1852 b: January 10, 1753 in NC d: December 30, 1852 ........... +Neil Culbreth ................ 3 Daniel Culbreth .................... +Mary B. ....... 2 Sarah Autry 1755 - 1790 b: 1755 in NC d: Bef. 1790 ........... +George Vickers m: 1771 in Edgecomb, NC

You are very welcome Jimmie, I know how hard it can be to find the right roots......LOL........hope you find what you are looking for. P. Autrey-Hatten Jimmieharr@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 3/28/04 9:15:22 PM Pacific Standard Time, plhckc@yahoo.com writes: do a search on the "Autrey House", it might help some. Thank You PAM, I will. I appreciate the information. jIMMY ==== AUTRY Mailing List ==== Have you visited the Autrey Heritage page? It's at http://www.autreyheritage.com/ --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time.

Could he have been the brother that was in the Army, the brother of Conelius and Absalom, was named John, and had inlisted in the Troy Army I believe, not sure , he was of some rank there. But no one has been able to pin point, that I have seen, that the brothers were from Ireland. Please anyone with info, PLEASE reply. Sincerely, P. Autrey-Hatten Andrea <autrey@serv.net> wrote: Listed on page 336 of the Washington, Porter, Indiana census there's a farm hand named John Autery with a birthplace listed as "Ireland". Has anyone else heard of this person? He was 35 years old at the time, which would place him born about 1825. He was a farm hand in the household of John and Hannah Hanford. Andr�a ==== AUTRY Mailing List ==== Have you visited the Autrey Heritage page? It's at http://www.autreyheritage.com/ --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time.

All the info I have come up with, suggest that he was from France, not nessisarily born there. I haven't found any records that say where the brothers were born, other than the fact that they came from France. Andrea <autrey@serv.net> wrote:Jimmie, what documentation do you have that Cornelius was born in France? -----Original Message----- From: Jimmieharr@aol.com [mailto:Jimmieharr@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 8:51 PM To: AUTRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUTRY] FW: Absalom Autrey Tory I have these names also. Do You think they may be connected? jIMMY HARRIS Descendants of Cornelius Autry 1 Cornelius Autry 1720 - 1770 b: Abt. 1720 in Haute Saone Province, France d: Abt. 1770 in Pitt Co., NC ....... 2 Elijah Autry ....... 2 Elizabeth Autry ....... 2 Jacob Autry b: in GA ....... 2 Mary Autry ....... 2 Rachel Autry ....... 2 John Autry 1735 - 1788 b: 1735 in NC d: February 02, 1788 in Sholes, GA ........... +Elizabeth Ann m: 1756 ................ 3 Alexander Autry ................ 3 Martha Autry ................ 3 Elixabeth Autry ................ 3 John Jr Autry ................ 3 Solomon Autry ................ 3 Agnes Autry ................ 3 Priscilla Autry ................ 3 Jacob Autry 1756 - 1827 b: Abt. 1756 d: Abt. 1827 ....... 2 Absalom Autry 1740 - 1806 b: 1740 in NC d: 1806 ........... +Naomi Lucy Camp ................ 3 Cornelius Autry ....... *2nd Wife of Absalom Autry: ........... +Polly Blasengame ....... 2 James Autry 1742 - 1828 b: 1742 in Edgewick,, NC d: Abt. 1828 in TN ........... +Unknown ................ 3 Elijah Autry 1767 - 1830 b: 1767 in North Carolina d: 1830 in Tennesse .................... +Unknown 1771 - b: 1771 in North Carolina ................ 3 Federick Autry 1778 - 1835 b: 1778 in NC d: October 12, 1835 in Wilcox Co., AL .................... +Elizabeth Hampden ................ 3 Alexander Autry 1780 - 1857 b: January 04, 1780 in NC d: September 22, 1857 in Conecuh Co., AL .................... +Parthenia B. Irvin m: March 03, 1803 in NC ....... 2 Alexander Autry 1743 - 1781 b: Abt. 1743 d: Abt. 1781 ....... 2 William Page Autry 1745 - 1790 b: 1745 d: 1790 ........... +Rachael m: 1765 ................ 3 Newsom Autry ....... 2 Cornelius Jr Autry 1747 - 1810 b: Abt. 1747 in Pitt Co., NC d: 1810 in Sampson Co., NC ........... +Sophia Keen 1751 - b: Abt. 1751 m: 1765 ....... 2 Drury Autry 1749 - 1808 b: 1749 in NC d: 1808 in Sampson Co., NC ....... 2 Isom Isham Autry 1750 - 1810 b: 1750 in NC d: Bef. 1810 ....... 2 Martha Autry 1753 - 1852 b: January 10, 1753 in NC d: December 30, 1852 ........... +Neil Culbreth ................ 3 Daniel Culbreth .................... +Mary B. ....... 2 Sarah Autry 1755 - 1790 b: 1755 in NC d: Bef. 1790 ........... +George Vickers m: 1771 in Edgecomb, NC ==== AUTRY Mailing List ==== Have you visited the Autrey Heritage page? It's at http://www.autreyheritage.com/ ==== AUTRY Mailing List ==== Did you know that the Autrey page was mentioned in the October Issue of Family Tree Magazine and the October issue of Evertons? http://www.autreyheritage.com/ --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time.

Mr. Harris, If you are refering to my part of the RE:, there was a Cornelius Autrey that came from France with his Brothers, one of them being my line of Autreys, Absalom. The most part of the line was born in NC, and them moved to Kentucky or Tennesse, I belive, can't remember which, Then moved to Alabama where they were the first to cross and settle the river there, and settle in Dubac, Louisiana. Some of the names on your list are familiar, but alot of them I am not familiar with. Familiar: Conelius, Elijah, Elizabeth, John, Soloman, William Page, and Wilcox County, you might want to look into this part of the family, their may be some connections there, I got alot of my info from the Autry webpage, as I took time to read through different links provided by that site. you might want to look into, "The Autrey House" in Dubach, Louisiana, there is alot of info there too, that was collected by the Historians and my family, it is a Historical Monument in Dubach. Our branch of the family! stayed around Union Parish, some in Dubach, Benice, and Farmerville. My dad's siblings settled close by West Monroe and Truxno, all in Louisiana. But like I said do a search on the "Autrey House", it might help some. Sincerely, P. Autrey-Hatten Jimmieharr@aol.com wrote: I have these names also. Do You think they may be connected? jIMMY HARRIS Descendants of Cornelius Autry 1 Cornelius Autry 1720 - 1770 b: Abt. 1720 in Haute Saone Province, France d: Abt. 1770 in Pitt Co., NC ....... 2 Elijah Autry ....... 2 Elizabeth Autry ....... 2 Jacob Autry b: in GA ....... 2 Mary Autry ....... 2 Rachel Autry ....... 2 John Autry 1735 - 1788 b: 1735 in NC d: February 02, 1788 in Sholes, GA ........... +Elizabeth Ann m: 1756 ................ 3 Alexander Autry ................ 3 Martha Autry ................ 3 Elixabeth Autry ................ 3 John Jr Autry ................ 3 Solomon Autry ................ 3 Agnes Autry ................ 3 Priscilla Autry ................ 3 Jacob Autry 1756 - 1827 b: Abt. 1756 d: Abt. 1827 ....... 2 Absalom Autry 1740 - 1806 b: 1740 in NC d: 1806 ........... +Naomi Lucy Camp ................ 3 Cornelius Autry ....... *2nd Wife of Absalom Autry: ........... +Polly Blasengame ....... 2 James Autry 1742 - 1828 b: 1742 in Edgewick,, NC d: Abt. 1828 in TN ........... +Unknown ................ 3 Elijah Autry 1767 - 1830 b: 1767 in North Carolina d: 1830 in Tennesse .................... +Unknown 1771 - b: 1771 in North Carolina ................ 3 Federick Autry 1778 - 1835 b: 1778 in NC d: October 12, 1835 in Wilcox Co., AL .................... +Elizabeth Hampden ................ 3 Alexander Autry 1780 - 1857 b: January 04, 1780 in NC d: September 22, 1857 in Conecuh Co., AL .................... +Parthenia B. Irvin m: March 03, 1803 in NC ....... 2 Alexander Autry 1743 - 1781 b: Abt. 1743 d: Abt. 1781 ....... 2 William Page Autry 1745 - 1790 b: 1745 d: 1790 ........... +Rachael m: 1765 ................ 3 Newsom Autry ....... 2 Cornelius Jr Autry 1747 - 1810 b: Abt. 1747 in Pitt Co., NC d: 1810 in Sampson Co., NC ........... +Sophia Keen 1751 - b: Abt. 1751 m: 1765 ....... 2 Drury Autry 1749 - 1808 b: 1749 in NC d: 1808 in Sampson Co., NC ....... 2 Isom Isham Autry 1750 - 1810 b: 1750 in NC d: Bef. 1810 ....... 2 Martha Autry 1753 - 1852 b: January 10, 1753 in NC d: December 30, 1852 ........... +Neil Culbreth ................ 3 Daniel Culbreth .................... +Mary B. ....... 2 Sarah Autry 1755 - 1790 b: 1755 in NC d: Bef. 1790 ........... +George Vickers m: 1771 in Edgecomb, NC ==== AUTRY Mailing List ==== Have you visited the Autrey Heritage page? It's at http://www.autreyheritage.com/ --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time.

Jimmie, what documentation do you have that Cornelius was born in France? -----Original Message----- From: Jimmieharr@aol.com [mailto:Jimmieharr@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 8:51 PM To: AUTRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUTRY] FW: Absalom Autrey Tory I have these names also. Do You think they may be connected? jIMMY HARRIS Descendants of Cornelius Autry 1 Cornelius Autry 1720 - 1770 b: Abt. 1720 in Haute Saone Province, France d: Abt. 1770 in Pitt Co., NC ....... 2 Elijah Autry ....... 2 Elizabeth Autry ....... 2 Jacob Autry b: in GA ....... 2 Mary Autry ....... 2 Rachel Autry ....... 2 John Autry 1735 - 1788 b: 1735 in NC d: February 02, 1788 in Sholes, GA ........... +Elizabeth Ann m: 1756 ................ 3 Alexander Autry ................ 3 Martha Autry ................ 3 Elixabeth Autry ................ 3 John Jr Autry ................ 3 Solomon Autry ................ 3 Agnes Autry ................ 3 Priscilla Autry ................ 3 Jacob Autry 1756 - 1827 b: Abt. 1756 d: Abt. 1827 ....... 2 Absalom Autry 1740 - 1806 b: 1740 in NC d: 1806 ........... +Naomi Lucy Camp ................ 3 Cornelius Autry ....... *2nd Wife of Absalom Autry: ........... +Polly Blasengame ....... 2 James Autry 1742 - 1828 b: 1742 in Edgewick,, NC d: Abt. 1828 in TN ........... +Unknown ................ 3 Elijah Autry 1767 - 1830 b: 1767 in North Carolina d: 1830 in Tennesse .................... +Unknown 1771 - b: 1771 in North Carolina ................ 3 Federick Autry 1778 - 1835 b: 1778 in NC d: October 12, 1835 in Wilcox Co., AL .................... +Elizabeth Hampden ................ 3 Alexander Autry 1780 - 1857 b: January 04, 1780 in NC d: September 22, 1857 in Conecuh Co., AL .................... +Parthenia B. Irvin m: March 03, 1803 in NC ....... 2 Alexander Autry 1743 - 1781 b: Abt. 1743 d: Abt. 1781 ....... 2 William Page Autry 1745 - 1790 b: 1745 d: 1790 ........... +Rachael m: 1765 ................ 3 Newsom Autry ....... 2 Cornelius Jr Autry 1747 - 1810 b: Abt. 1747 in Pitt Co., NC d: 1810 in Sampson Co., NC ........... +Sophia Keen 1751 - b: Abt. 1751 m: 1765 ....... 2 Drury Autry 1749 - 1808 b: 1749 in NC d: 1808 in Sampson Co., NC ....... 2 Isom Isham Autry 1750 - 1810 b: 1750 in NC d: Bef. 1810 ....... 2 Martha Autry 1753 - 1852 b: January 10, 1753 in NC d: December 30, 1852 ........... +Neil Culbreth ................ 3 Daniel Culbreth .................... +Mary B. ....... 2 Sarah Autry 1755 - 1790 b: 1755 in NC d: Bef. 1790 ........... +George Vickers m: 1771 in Edgecomb, NC ==== AUTRY Mailing List ==== Have you visited the Autrey Heritage page? It's at http://www.autreyheritage.com/

I am referring to the first part of your message, about Charity Autrey, it is so strange how the Autrey family has used names over and over, my cousin who was born only 18yrs ago, was named Charity, how strange that is. Just thought others might have some intsight one the name reusage in the family. Please contact me with any info on the subject of name reusage. Thank you for your time and efforts. Sincerely, P. Autrey-Hatten Andrea <autrey@serv.net> wrote: -----Original Message----- From: rdwoodlockatty@earthlink.net [mailto:rdwoodlockatty@earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 6:23 PM To: Autry-l-request@rootsweb.com Subject: Absalom Autrey Tory Please add me to the e-mail list. I am a descendant of Absalom Autrey through Charity Autrey and Thomas Jefferson Downing. ==== AUTRY Mailing List ==== Have you visited the Autrey Heritage page? It's at http://www.autreyheritage.com/ --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time.

I also have a Cornelius Autrey in my Absalom Autrey line, and you are correct, it can get a bit confusing at times, because the names Absalom, Cornelius, and William were used so much, but the Cornelius in my bloodline was a the first school teacher in Union Parish, Louisiana. He is my Great x how many ever(LOL) Grandfather, and was one of the son's of Absalom who stayed in Louisiana, the others either went back east, or went to TX., as far as I have found. I don't think any other son's, besides maybe one, stayed in Louisiana. Anyone with any other information to add to this, please contact me. Thank you for your time. "Only we can keep the family alive." We only have two boys, on our branch, to carry on the Autrey name. I feel that one day very soon, there will be no one left to carry on, our branch of this extrodinary family. Again, I think everyone who uses their precious time to carry on the leagacy, it is truly a sacrifice, with it's long hours, and pages and pages of r! esearch, each one of you bring us closer to our lost ancestors. Thank you. Sincerely, P. Autrey-Hatten Sincerely, P. Autrey-Hatten Janey Joyce <jejoyce@sbcglobal.net> wrote: Both Absalom and Cornelius were popular names with the Autreys. I am unwilling to assume, at this point, that the Absalom Autrey who was a Tory was the same Absalom who probably fathered the Cornelius Autrey who married Nancy Eaves. The Cornelius Autrey in Sampson County is almost certainly from a different line of Autreys. Census records suggest that "our" Cornelius Autrey was born 1775-1780, so was unlikely to have been enumerated as the head of a househole in 1790. The Cornelius Autry enumerated in Sampson County was above 16 and was probably married to the female enumerated with him. He was probably at least 30 in 1790 because Cornelius, Isham, John and Theophilus Autry were on the 1784 tax rolls of Sampson County. By 1784 all North Carolina men age 21 or older paid a head tax. So Cornelius was at least 21 in 1784. "Our" Cornelius Autrey was probably in his father Absalom's household when Absalom and his family were enumerated in Moore County, N.C., census in 1790. I have connected the Absalom Autrey who was in Moore County, N.C., in 1790 with the Absalom Autrey who was enumerated in Rutherford County, N.C,. in 1800 because I found a record of a deed wherein Absolom Autery of "Moor" County, N.C. purchased two tracts of land in Rutherford County from John Leatherman on 15 Dec. 1798. The land was described as 120 acres on Webbs Ceek and 100 acres, also on Webbs Creek. Absalom Autrey sold land on Webbs Creek, Rutherford County, to probable son Cornelius Autrey in 1805, which seems more than a coincidence to me. Incidentally, George Autrey - who I believe to have been Absalom's youngest son although many believe he was Cornelius's son - or someone in his household told the 1880 census enumerator that George's father was born in England and his mother was born in Germany. I think that is interesting, especially when another probable son of Absalom's - Alexander Autrey - came from French and German ancestry, according to his grandson, Benjamin Franklin Riley. In my view, those two bits of information do not conflict. French Protestants began fleeing to England and other countries to avoid persecution in the 16th Century. Some of these refugees and some of their descendants immigrated to the New World. So it is not unlikely that a man of French descent who was born in England ended up in North Carolina. So I also think we must consider the possibility that Absalom was the original immigrant of his line of descendants and was not the son of the Cornelius Autrey who can be found as early as 1754 in Edgecombe County, N.C. and probably died there about 1774. I have looked at many, many records and have only been able to identify two children for that Cornelius Autrey: Isom and Sarah, who married George Vickers. I would love to hear from anyone who has found solid evidence of any other children for him. Janey E. Joyce Andrea wrote: -----Original Message----- From: rdwoodlockatty@earthlink.net [mailto:rdwoodlockatty@earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 6:23 PM To: Autry-l-request@rootsweb.com Subject: Absalom Autrey Tory Please add me to the e-mail list. I am a descendant of Absalom Autrey through Charity Autrey and Thomas Jefferson Downing. Query: andrewbalfour.com has published excerpts from Col. David Fanning's Narrative under whom Absalom Autrey served. Absalom was with David Fanning and shot Colonel Andrew Balfour in NC on March 10, 1782 outside his home. The soldiers pursued Balfour into the house and shot him in front of his daughter and sister-in-law after which the women were attacked. At least one of the soldiers was later hanged. Fanning and some of his men escaped to SC. 1. After the war British troops were transported to E. Florida. The oft-quoted British War Office excerpt says "these men were determined to go to Florida". The Balfour site states: After the War, on May 17, 1782 the Act of pardon and Oblivion passed, exempting [Fanning] from pardon in NC. David and his wife were sent to Florida, awaiting deportation to Canada. Did Absalom determine to go to Florida or was it determined for him? Does anyone have the entire War Office Report or the 1782 Act? 2. Given Absalom's very active role in what was regarded as Col. Balfour's murder, was he indicted or refused pardon like Fanning? Was he ever pardoned? Was his land seized as indicated by Deed Abstracts of Tryon, Lincoln, & Rutherford Counties, N.C.: Tryon Co. estates: Book A1 P. 247? Did he work his way across to Georgia and then return to NC? 3. Absalom's son Cornelius is listed in the 1790 Census in Sampson Co NC with 1 woman but his marriage to Nancy Eaves took place about 10 years later. Could he have been living with his mother or a sister while his father was gone? Interestingly, an Autry/Balfour Descendant marriage took place in 1920 (check Balfour site). ==== AUTRY Mailing List ==== Have you visited the Autrey Heritage page? It's at http://www.autreyheritage.com/ ==== AUTRY Mailing List ==== Have you visited the Autrey Heritage page? It's at http://www.autreyheritage.com/ --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time.

My Grandfather, James Albert Autrey, was a decendent of Absalom Autrey of Dubac, Louisiana, his father was supposed to have been in TX, at some point I believe, and fathered I think two or three other children, which my grandfather did not find out about till he was in his mid 60's, I believe his name was William too, William Robert I think, can't remember, William was Absalom's Grandson I think. Anyone with anymore information on this particular line of Autreys, please contact me. Thank you for your time. Sincerely, P. Autrey-Hatten Robert L Autry <robert_autry@sbcglobal.net> wrote: RW Wrote You need to determine who your grandfather's father was from a family Bible, census records, your grandfather's death certificate, or other records such as wills and land records... and work your way back to some point that you can tie into the published Autry lineage. ------------------------ ------------------------ Answer: I am sure as far back as My Grandfathers father was: William Joseph Autry born in Mississippi on 7-14-1856 His parents both born in Tennessee His wife's name looks like: "Addie" but can't be sure of the hand writing She was born in Texas and Both of her parents born in Mississippi Taken from the Caldwell County, Texas Census 1900 (census reports that I have personally seen and verified) But after that I am not sure Thanks, Rev Robert Lee Autry -----Original Message----- From: Richard White [mailto:rw@pone.com] Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 8:36 PM To: AUTRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUTRY] Searching The best available information that I'm aware of says that Captain John & Micajah were brothers, but in any case I don't think it possible to be descended from both... You need to determine who your grandfather's father was from a family Bible, census records, your grandfather's death certificate, or other records such as wills and land records... and work your way back to some point that you can tie into the published Autry lineage. That may or may not be possible. I have good documentation back to my 3-great grandfather John Autry and so far as I know my 3-great grandfather John Autry was a son of Captain John Autry... but I've never been very satisfied by the information that I have seen indicating that and wish that I had time & energy to really dig for documentation. RW Robert L Autry wrote: >I am looking for verification of genealogy: > >I was told that I was a direct descendent of Capt. John Autry >and Michijah Autry who fought in the Alamo. > > ==== AUTRY Mailing List ==== Have you visited the Autrey Heritage page? It's at http://www.autreyheritage.com/ ==== AUTRY Mailing List ==== Have you visited the Autrey Heritage page? It's at http://www.autreyheritage.com/ --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time.

That included some spellings that I had never seen! But I think the Autr*y Family Assn Bulletin (no longer published) listed some 40 variations on the back page. The one that I like was omitted. That is: ALTREE. Someone years ago wrote in that they could not find their ancestor in a listing, then realized that there was an Altree. So we have a beautiful new name! And we might include: McAughtry, found in the Scottish church records. Robert Autry Brooks

Autrey was also sometimes spelled as heard to be related to the now disused mathematical expression "aught" (zero)... Aughtery or Aughtry. If you are using a soundex index, some of these spelling are so far apart that they actually fall under quite different soundex codes. RW Janey Joyce wrote: >Looking for Autreys can be a real challenge because of the many ways the name has been spelled. It is not unusual to see the name spelled two or even three different ways on a single document. > >Just off hand, I have seen the name spelled. > >Autrey >Autery >Autry >Awtrey >Awtry >Awtery >Awtroy >Ortra >Ortre >Otries >Otry >Ottery >Oytry > >It can be a real challenge to find them in census indexes. > >Janey E. Joyce in San Antonio, Texas > >Milyel@aol.com wrote: >Robin, my great great grandfather, Cornelius Autrey (sometimes Autry), was >married in Rutherford County, NC, 9 June 1801, and his marriage was recorded as: >Nelus Otry m. Nany (Nancy) Eaves. One of his sons spelled his name Awtrey, >and that line has consistently used that spelling. > >Mildred Yelverton > >

Robin, my great great grandfather, Cornelius Autrey (sometimes Autry), was married in Rutherford County, NC, 9 June 1801, and his marriage was recorded as: Nelus Otry m. Nany (Nancy) Eaves. One of his sons spelled his name Awtrey, and that line has consistently used that spelling. Mildred Yelverton

Looking for Autreys can be a real challenge because of the many ways the name has been spelled. It is not unusual to see the name spelled two or even three different ways on a single document. Just off hand, I have seen the name spelled. Autrey Autery Autry Awtrey Awtry Awtery Awtroy Ortra Ortre Otries Otry Ottery Oytry It can be a real challenge to find them in census indexes. Janey E. Joyce in San Antonio, Texas Milyel@aol.com wrote: Robin, my great great grandfather, Cornelius Autrey (sometimes Autry), was married in Rutherford County, NC, 9 June 1801, and his marriage was recorded as: Nelus Otry m. Nany (Nancy) Eaves. One of his sons spelled his name Awtrey, and that line has consistently used that spelling. Mildred Yelverton ==== AUTRY Mailing List ==== Have you visited the Autrey Heritage page? It's at http://www.autreyheritage.com/

Jim, were are your Awtrey's from? I am searching the Ortery/Orterry name and it is said that there is a connection with the Autry name, but I have not found one yet. The only thing that I have found was my 2nd Great Grandfather James F. Ortery listed in the 1880 Illinois Census as Autry. We do not know his parents names to go back any further. The name William is listed as his father's name and unknown for his mother on his marriage register, but it is said that he did not know who his father or mother was. I have been able to track him from the 1870 to 1920 census all in Illinois, most documents giving South Carolina as his birthplace with a couple listing Georgia. Beings you have found records with the Ortry/Ortery spelling I was wondering if we could compare locations if your Awtrey's were from Illinois or South Carolina. Hope all is well with you and wish you luck on your Awtrey search. Robin (Orterry) Mohammed JimPend@aol.com wrote: From: Jim Pendergist (JimPend@aol.com) You may want to try a different spelling. I found the marriage license on my Great, great grandfather William Eldridge Awtrey and Martha Ann Ramsey under Ortry or Ortery. Jim P. ==== AUTRY Mailing List ==== How to unsubscribe from the Autry list: Send a message to AUTRY-L-request@rootsweb.com that contains (in the body of the message) the command unsubscribe and no additional text. If you are subscribed to the digest, send the message to AUTRY-D-request@rootsweb.com instead. Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time.