Sam; I concur that the journey will only get better. I started a surname project in 2002, and it has grown steadily by about 2 kits per month. Since our research group already knew about many of the lines, it was easy to fit folks in. And we worked as a pretty cooperative group. With atDNA you are pretty much on your own - you try to get some cooperation from each match. It still amazes me how difficult it is to get a reply, much less share meaningful info. I still think there is hope for the average genealogist to use atDNA, and I plan to keep recommending it - I just have to scale back the expectations. Jim Bartlett On 01/07/12, Sam Eaton<[email protected]> wrote: Jim, The morning coffee jump start does help. I think that your ROI point is excellent as were your other points. The big issue is that autosomal DNA is more difficult to understand and work with than yDNA. Even worse, except for GEDmatch, Dr Pike's site and a few others there is no really useful software yet. Half million to million line spreadsheets really stretch what a spreadsheet can do. I expect that SQL is the ultimate answer. Still, for me, this journey started in NOV 2009 with the 23andMe beta. Looking back over that timeframe, the progress is astonishing. In another two to three years . . . Sam ______________________________ For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: [1]http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to A[2][email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message References 1. http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html 2. mailto:[email protected]