I'm guessing many of us have the same question! I've got several similar situations with no clue or breakthrough to date. On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Linda <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello List, > > What is the chosen method to search for the common ancestor on an "in > common with" match between 5 people about whom you know nothing to > connect them? > > Only one of the 4 gives GEDCOM and surnames and I cannot relate my McKee > husband to those surnames although several "could be related". (A 5th > name turned up on the in-common-with list but showed zero match on the > chromosome bar with anyone. I assume that is not meaningful ---?---) > > The match they all share is on the 9th chromosome as follows: > > McKee-Walters........2155758--8555148----13.9 cM--2795 snp > McKee-Dismukes.......1950788--9337789----16.38----3295 > McKee-Moore..........2155758--7810080----12.42----2395 > McKee-Uloth..........2155758--8387775----13.73----2695 > > Other small hits: > Moore, Dismukes, McKee on the 2nd chromosome > Moore, Uloth, McKee on the 3rd > Dismukes, Moore, McKee on the 5th > Dismukes, Moore, McKee on the 6th > Walters, Uloth, McKee on the 10th > Moore, Walters, McKee on the 16th > > Perhaps this could be my first Family Finder success story with the List > helping out..........Please. > > Any suggestions, comments appreciated. I have had very little luck in > attempting to communicate with matches to find the common grandparent as > it seems they all have less info than I do. > > Linda McKee > > > > > On 1/5/2012 2:00 AM, [email protected] wrote: > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Back to 'Fundamental Autosomal DNA Question' (Amy Martin) > > 2. Re: Back to 'Fundamental Autosomal DNA Question' (Ann Turner) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 09:57:48 -0500 > > From: Amy Martin<[email protected]> > > Subject: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] Back to 'Fundamental Autosomal DNA Question' > > To: [email protected] > > Message-ID:<[email protected]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > > In posting my original question: "If both my mother and myself have > tested, can I match with someone from a known ancestral line of hers while > she does NOT? OR, would the match mean that I MUST be related to this > person through my paternal line?" I generated some disagreement from the > experts and much discussion. Unfortunately, I'm still confused. Recently, > I've gotten a 'strong' cousin match with a 'cousin' who does NOT match with > my mother. In this case, we have a cM chain of 23.88 and 4575 matching > SNP, for an estimated 3rd cousin match. When examining his family tree, > everything overwhelmingly points to a MATERNAL connection so far (but no > real smoking gun, so to speak). It IS possible I'm missing a paternal > surname, however. I'm having this situation turn up occasionally with > other cousins as well. Does this mean that Mom and Dad have cousins in > common? OR, am I to understand, as you all have tried to explain, that it > is NOT possible that genes 'skip' a gene! > ra! > > tion, so I must be missing the paternal connection? Since we are a > strong match, the whole IBS issue is moot, right? > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 07:39:15 -0800 > > From: Ann Turner<[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] Back to 'Fundamental Autosomal DNA > > Question' > > To: [email protected] > > Message-ID: > > < > [email protected]om> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > > That is a very robust segment, and I would infer that the connection is > > through the paternal side. > > > > Ann > > > > On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 6:57 AM, Amy Martin<[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> In posting my original question: "If both my mother and myself have > >> tested, can I match with someone from a known ancestral line of hers > while > >> she does NOT? OR, would the match mean that I MUST be related to this > >> person through my paternal line?" I generated some disagreement from > the > >> experts and much discussion. Unfortunately, I'm still confused. > Recently, > >> I've gotten a 'strong' cousin match with a 'cousin' who does NOT match > with > >> my mother. In this case, we have a cM chain of 23.88 and 4575 matching > >> SNP, for an estimated 3rd cousin match. When examining his family tree, > >> everything overwhelmingly points to a MATERNAL connection so far (but no > >> real smoking gun, so to speak). It IS possible I'm missing a paternal > >> surname, however. I'm having this situation turn up occasionally with > >> other cousins as well. Does this mean that Mom and Dad have cousins in > >> common? OR, am I to understand, as you all have tried to explain, that > it > >> is NOT possible that genes 'skip' a genera! > >> tion, so I must be missing the paternal connection? Since we are a > >> strong match, the whole IBS issue is moot, right? > >> > >> > >> ______________________________ > >> For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please > see: > >> http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > End of AUTOSOMAL-DNA Digest, Vol 2, Issue 1 > > ******************************************* > > > ______________________________ > For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: > http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
One potential strategy would have several of us "gang up" on a surname and see if we have similar matches. I have DISMUKES directly as at least one match in our FTDNA files. Maybe others do as well. IF we figure out DISMUKES by extension we MAY make progress figuring out the origins of Chromosome 9 for the all of the others in your "In Common" collection. I also have several MOORE connections but no ULOTH or WALTERS that I can presently detect. So ... one potential solution would flow from a collective group solution looking at one seemingly "doable" surname. John Colorado > Hello List, > > What is the chosen method to search for the common ancestor on an "in > common with" match between 5 people about whom you know nothing to > connect them? > > Only one of the 4 gives GEDCOM and surnames and I cannot relate my McKee > husband to those surnames although several "could be related". (A 5th > name turned up on the in-common-with list but showed zero match on the > chromosome bar with anyone. I assume that is not meaningful ---?---) > > The match they all share is on the 9th chromosome as follows: > > McKee-Walters........2155758--8555148----13.9 cM--2795 snp > McKee-Dismukes.......1950788--9337789----16.38----3295 > McKee-Moore..........2155758--7810080----12.42----2395 > McKee-Uloth..........2155758--8387775----13.73----2695 > > Other small hits: > Moore, Dismukes, McKee on the 2nd chromosome > Moore, Uloth, McKee on the 3rd > Dismukes, Moore, McKee on the 5th > Dismukes, Moore, McKee on the 6th > Walters, Uloth, McKee on the 10th > Moore, Walters, McKee on the 16th > > Perhaps this could be my first Family Finder success story with the List > helping out..........Please. > > Any suggestions, comments appreciated. I have had very little luck in > attempting to communicate with matches to find the common grandparent as > it seems they all have less info than I do. > > Linda McKee > > > > > On 1/5/2012 2:00 AM, [email protected] wrote: > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Back to 'Fundamental Autosomal DNA Question' (Amy Martin) > > 2. Re: Back to 'Fundamental Autosomal DNA Question' (Ann Turner) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 09:57:48 -0500 > > From: Amy Martin<[email protected]> > > Subject: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] Back to 'Fundamental Autosomal DNA Question' > > To: [email protected] > > Message-ID:<[email protected]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > > In posting my original question: "If both my mother and myself have > tested, can I match with someone from a known ancestral line of hers while > she does NOT? OR, would the match mean that I MUST be related to this > person through my paternal line?" I generated some disagreement from the > experts and much discussion. Unfortunately, I'm still confused. Recently, > I've gotten a 'strong' cousin match with a 'cousin' who does NOT match with > my mother. In this case, we have a cM chain of 23.88 and 4575 matching > SNP, for an estimated 3rd cousin match. When examining his family tree, > everything overwhelmingly points to a MATERNAL connection so far (but no > real smoking gun, so to speak). It IS possible I'm missing a paternal > surname, however. I'm having this situation turn up occasionally with > other cousins as well. Does this mean that Mom and Dad have cousins in > common? OR, am I to understand, as you all have tried to explain, that it > is NOT possible that genes 'skip' a gene! > ra! > > tion, so I must be missing the paternal connection? Since we are a > strong match, the whole IBS issue is moot, right? > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 07:39:15 -0800 > > From: Ann Turner<[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] Back to 'Fundamental Autosomal DNA > > Question' > > To: [email protected] > > Message-ID: > > < > [email protected]om> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > > That is a very robust segment, and I would infer that the connection is > > through the paternal side. > > > > Ann > > > > On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 6:57 AM, Amy Martin<[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> In posting my original question: "If both my mother and myself have > >> tested, can I match with someone from a known ancestral line of hers > while > >> she does NOT? OR, would the match mean that I MUST be related to this > >> person through my paternal line?" I generated some disagreement from > the > >> experts and much discussion. Unfortunately, I'm still confused. > Recently, > >> I've gotten a 'strong' cousin match with a 'cousin' who does NOT match > with > >> my mother. In this case, we have a cM chain of 23.88 and 4575 matching > >> SNP, for an estimated 3rd cousin match. When examining his family tree, > >> everything overwhelmingly points to a MATERNAL connection so far (but no > >> real smoking gun, so to speak). It IS possible I'm missing a paternal > >> surname, however. I'm having this situation turn up occasionally with > >> other cousins as well. Does this mean that Mom and Dad have cousins in > >> common? OR, am I to understand, as you all have tried to explain, that > it > >> is NOT possible that genes 'skip' a genera! > >> tion, so I must be missing the paternal connection? Since we are a > >> strong match, the whole IBS issue is moot, right? > >> > >> > >> ______________________________ > >> For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please > see: > >> http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > End of AUTOSOMAL-DNA Digest, Vol 2, Issue 1 > > ******************************************* > > > ______________________________ > For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: > http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ______________________________ For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message