This subject, along with some other project queries in the last couple of days has contributed to making me more aware of the advantages of looking at the Family Finder Matrix within my projects and utilising that matrix. Sadly, not many Y-DNA testers have bothered with Family Finder and they are, in my opinion, missing out on a vast untapped resource. I say that because:- 1. Many women do not have male siblings, nor a living father, uncle etc BUT those women who take the plunge into DNA and their atDNA (and test for Family Finder) often have wonderful genealogy trees 2. If males do not test their atDNA (Family Finder), these same women will never be able to make contact (remember that it is often these women who have exemplary Family trees). 3. Many men are ignoring the female sides of their genetic makeup and concentrating purely on their paternity - which may or may not be per their birth certificates. So, thank you all for bringing this matter up... my internal admin duties are now increased and enhanced as a result... Gail Riddell On 17/06/2012, at 6:45 PM, Diana Gale Matthiesen wrote: > You request a FF project by contacting the Helpdesk. There's some > helpful information on this FAQ and the several following it: > http://www.familytreedna.com/faq/answers.aspx?id=7#599 > > However, and frankly, because FF results are not displayed, I don't > necessarily see a compelling reason to open one. I opened one > because, so far, 13 of the 14 family members who have been or are > being FF tested were funded by me. I simply got tired of logging in > and out of each one's account. This way, as project admin, I need > only log in to my GAP once - the same GAP I log into to admin my other > projects, so it's largely a convenience for me. > > My FF project has only been open a few days, and this is what it looks > like, so far: > http://www.familytreedna.com/public/IDavis-TThompson/ > > The FF projects do not come up when you search on a surname at the > FTDNA home page, nor do they show up on the projects list someone sees > when they click "Join Projects" from their member page. It's intended > that membership will be by invitation only. Eventually, the project's > web page should come up on a Google search, so I made certain key > names, places, and events were on the project's Background page. > > My hope would be that FTDNA would give us some tools to make FF > projects more useful. For example, a single table that would show > mutual matches between all family members, at once, rather like I've > already done: > http://dgmweb.net/DNA/aDNA/FF-Descendants_Isaac_DAVIS.html > > The problems with my "mutual match" table are 1) it was a lot of > trouble to create, 2) it constantly becomes out-of-date, and 3) it > only displays the surnames of matching individuals, not matching > segments. I still consider myself a novice when it comes to autosomal > testing, so I'm certain there are others who can think of better tools > and better ways to display results and progress. IMO, we need to > press FTDNA to give us a useful display for our FF project web sites. > They clearly have the data available and are currently making it > available to us individually. It's a matter of programming some new > reports with the features a FF project (i.e., multiple members) could > use. > > Diana > > P.S. I actually joined some other family members to the project, ones > who don't descend from the project's founding couples. Both their > Y-DNA and/or mtDNA results are suppressed, so again, this is for my > convenience - an unintended perk for being an admin. You could do > this with any of your projects (i.e., bring your relatives under one > umbrella) as long as you suppress display of any results that are > irrelevant to the particular project. > > > > > > >> From: Kathleen Cooper >> Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 7:05 PM >> >> Hi Diana, >> >> I am new to the group and I did not know FF projects could be opened >> at >> FTDNA. >> >> How do we find out what projects are available? How and why would we >> start one? >> >> I administer a surname project (McElrea) and I've been wondering how >> to >> organize the FF tests along with the y- and mt-DNA. Is it better to >> have >> a separate project, or perhaps I'm just missing something? Ours is a >> small project and I admit I am still finding my way around the admin >> job! >> >> Thanks, >> Kathleen > > > > > ______________________________ > For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: > http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message