Mary Lou, My advice is to: 1. extend your List to 7G-gp (most of my matches are 6-8th cousins) 2. make your List alphabetical by surname, and add Patriarch date/place info (keeping it to one line) 3. include possible ancestors and alternate ancestors in your List - your matches are scanning your list, only looking for the one that is their Common Ancestor 4. contact every match, several times - be persistent, help your matches find the Common Ancestor; look at place/time matches 5. Upload your raw data to GEDmatch, and contact the new matches there (many from 23&me) Jim Bartlett I've also compiled a list of my 4th great-grandparents (many are mid-1700s) which I send to the stronger FF matches (after sending to all in March 2012 yielded few replies). It has some unknowns, but not a great many. I think the lack of tested people sharing of even surnames is the biggest problem. Any suggestions, or information as to possible forthcoming tests will be appreciated. Mary Lou McHaffie Ramsey