Devil's advocate here ... (what's new!) And I know this was discussed on one of the DNA lists a bit recently, but ... I'm concerned with the FTDNA term Triangulate as their new pop-up window for In Common With and Not in Common With. I think the novice will/could be greatly confused if they are also trying to map their chromosomes (and many are starting to map). They may think that FTDNA is now doing some magic and triangulating the matches for them. OH Yeah, when that does happen! (IF FTDNA can convince me that this will be the window to doing that, I will shut up ... as long as the timeline for it is coming soon.) We can't use the same terms for different situations unless the meaning is the same. If there is any agreement out there, let's hear it and come up with a word better suited for FTDNA's Triangulate...then suggest they change it. It would be MUCH easier to change the word on their site than for all of us to change what is met by triangulating for Y or for atDNA. Opinions? Thanks, Emily -----Original Message----- From: autosomal-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:autosomal-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Linda Boorom Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 12:51 PM To: autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] Triangulation on FTDNA The only thing I find, which could be corrected by FTDNA, is that once you triangulate, then select individuals to chromosome browse, the individual you initially selected to triagualte with is NOT included in the chromosome browse & must be added once you get to the chromsome browser. Seems to me they could/should automatically include the triangulated individual to the list to show in the chromosme browser. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary E Hall" < <mailto:just23gen@gmail.com> just23gen@gmail.com> To: < <mailto:autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com> autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 10:13 AM Subject: Re: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] Triangulation on FTDNA > It's also easier to select individuals to chromosome browse, once you > triangulate. Before, you'd have to write down the names and find them in > that long list (which you could make shorter by having established some > sort of relationship). > > Mary E Hall > > > On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 3:03 AM, Ann Turner < <mailto:DNACousins@aol.com> DNACousins@aol.com> wrote: > >> As far as I can tell, the only difference (but a very welcome one) is that >> you no longer need to manually assign a relationship before you can pick a >> person for comparison. Previously, people would simply assign a "distant >> cousin" relationship in order to look at the ICW feature. And previously to >> the previously, the other party had to confirm the relationship. >> >> Ann Turner >> >> >> On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 5:21 PM, Elizabeth < <mailto:eargs2@windstream.net> eargs2@windstream.net> wrote: >> >> > How does one use the new Triangulation feature that replaced IN Common >> > With? >> > I have read the FTDNA help but found nothing. >> > >> > Thanks to all. >> > >> > > > ______________________________ > For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: > <http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html> http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to <mailto:AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com> AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the > word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ______________________________ For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: <http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html> http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to <mailto:AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com> AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'd like to hear more on our concerns. Actually, I was somewhat "surprised" that when I started playing around with "In Common With" and chromosome browser together this weekend, I saw amazing clusters of matches along one segment of DNA. I had enough info on some of the paperwork pedigrees that it seemed either "too good to be true", an amazing coincidence, or something very strange. I co-lead our local genealogical DNA special interest group, mostly due to my interest in DNA and because I believe it holds great future. But I also temper my "enthusiasm" so that people have realistic expectations and spend their money wisely. And I try to be honest in my assessment of the various companies strengths and weaknesses. I'm not sure what to make of the new Triangulation/Chromosome matching feature of FT DNA. So, am interested in others opinions, too. Mary On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Emily Aulicino <aulicino@hevanet.com> wrote: > Devil's advocate here ... (what's new!) And I know this was discussed on > one > of the DNA lists a bit recently, but ... > > > > I'm concerned with the FTDNA term Triangulate as their new pop-up window > for > In Common With and Not in Common With. > > > > I think the novice will/could be greatly confused if they are also trying > to > map their chromosomes (and many are starting to map). They may think that > FTDNA is now doing some magic and triangulating the matches for them. OH > Yeah, when that does happen! (IF FTDNA can convince me that this will be > the window to doing that, I will shut up ... as long as the timeline for it > is coming soon.) > > > > We can't use the same terms for different situations unless the meaning is > the same. > > > > If there is any agreement out there, let's hear it and come up with a word > better suited for FTDNA's Triangulate...then suggest they change it. It > would be MUCH easier to change the word on their site than for all of us to > change what is met by triangulating for Y or for atDNA. > > > > Opinions? > > > > Thanks, > > Emily > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: autosomal-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:autosomal-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Linda Boorom > Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 12:51 PM > To: autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] Triangulation on FTDNA > > > > The only thing I find, which could be corrected by FTDNA, is that once you > triangulate, then select individuals to chromosome browse, the individual > you initially selected to triagualte with is NOT included in the chromosome > browse & must be added once you get to the chromsome browser. > > > > Seems to me they could/should automatically include the triangulated > individual to the list to show in the chromosme browser. > > > > Linda > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mary E Hall" < <mailto:just23gen@gmail.com> just23gen@gmail.com> > > To: < <mailto:autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com> autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 10:13 AM > > Subject: Re: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] Triangulation on FTDNA > > > > > > > It's also easier to select individuals to chromosome browse, once you > > > triangulate. Before, you'd have to write down the names and find them in > > > that long list (which you could make shorter by having established some > > > sort of relationship). > > > > > > Mary E Hall > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 3:03 AM, Ann Turner < <mailto:DNACousins@aol.com> > DNACousins@aol.com> wrote: > > > > > >> As far as I can tell, the only difference (but a very welcome one) is > that > > >> you no longer need to manually assign a relationship before you can pick > a > > >> person for comparison. Previously, people would simply assign a "distant > > >> cousin" relationship in order to look at the ICW feature. And previously > to > > >> the previously, the other party had to confirm the relationship. > > >> > > >> Ann Turner > > >> > > >> > > >> On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 5:21 PM, Elizabeth < > <mailto:eargs2@windstream.net> eargs2@windstream.net> wrote: > > >> > > >> > How does one use the new Triangulation feature that replaced IN Common > > >> > With? > > >> > I have read the FTDNA help but found nothing. > > >> > > > >> > Thanks to all. > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > ______________________________ > > > For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please > see: > > > <http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html> > http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > <mailto:AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com> > AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the > > > word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________ > > For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: > > <http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html> > http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > <mailto:AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com> > AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ______________________________ > For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: > http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >