Linda I agree with Tim that surnames are OK. By talking it up, among BARTLETT researchers, we've uncovered two dozen descendants of my line who have atDNA tested - across all 3 companies. By collaborating, we've determined that while we don't all match each other, we do match some who match others. And we are identifying signature segments from those ancestors. As cousins, we share names to look for in our match lists. During my talks, I usually include some examples - like the Peter RUCKER line with many Y-DNA matcher; or the HIGGINBOTHAM and GRAVES and HARRIS lines with incorrect genealogies (proven by Y-DNA) all over Ancestry, but we still find atDNA matches by looking for that incorrect Tree which many have. Almost every time, someone will note that they are from that line and have or will test atDNA, so lets look for a match. I'm getting more and more feedback from Boards I posted on two years ago. If, a big IF, we can get some some people atDNA mapped to the 80-90 percent level, those will be great roadmaps (or DNAmaps). Additional matches on known segments can bevpointed directly to a proven ancestral line. This will help break right through brick walls. At that time a great increase in synergy will occur - helping each other fill out our DNAmaps. Jim - Sent from my iPhone - FaceTime! On Oct 5, 2013, at 2:58 PM, "Linda Boorom" <lboorom@fuse.net> wrote: > Tim, > > TY, just the encouragement I was hoping for :-) While I know it's much too soon to actually label > this segment as coming from the immigrant ancestor, I think I have enough to red flag it. Of course, > it could be from a female who married a Carrico........ I can only to hope to someday stumble across > a will where grandpa is leaving something to his Carrico grandchildren!!! On chromosome 14, there > doesn't appear to be any matches in common with any of the 3 individuals involved. There are other > segments to study, but this particular one caught my interest. Will work on the others next. > > Uh oh, I just typed the surname in question w/o thinking, but don't think I'm really sharing > anything here about living people who have tested by doing so. > > There is a Y-DNA group for this surname who Diana Matthiesen administers (a brick walled Carrico > descendant herself). I believe (at last count) 23 have tested that match each other and there are no > matches with other surnames (or didn't undergo a surname change in their linage) even at 12 markers. > Roughly, only 25% of those tested can trace their roots back to the immigrant Peter Carricoe. Diana > has others tested with the same or similar surname from Portugal, Turkey and Greece, none who have > yet to match with our immigrants descendants. > > Will Family Finder testing help us to figure out where our immigrant ancestor came from? I don't > know, perhaps in time. I'm more interested in trying to break down some of these brick walls here in > the US and figure out how we all conect back to Peter. > > I'm hoping with a story about at least loosening a brick in the wall, even if it didn't topple the > wall, might encourage others to test, esp. some of those who have already had the Y-DNA test done. > > I do have 3 pending tests from my own family, both of my mom's brothers and now mom's first cousin. > I'm thinking I need to go back a generation or 2 & find some more distant cousins to test? > > Again Tim, TY > > Linda >

Jim, I do have a CARRICO FAMILY PROJECT at FTDNA with currently 40 or so members with known CARRICO ancestry. There are a few more actually in the project w/o Carrico ancestry, such as my father and my adopted son (to ease my logins to their kits) and few others with suspected Carrico Ancestry or connections to Carrico ancestry. Each time there are new matches and/or new members I add to a compiled database of "Matches in Common" with other members of the Project. I find that a lot of tutoring is involved with individual members as to what this might mean and am trying to get them to look closer at some of those matches in common with other members of the project. I have also set up a website at myfamily.org where I can upload those matches in common and have space for discussion, yet thus far, discussion is not occuring because I don't think many understand what it might all lead to? I do have an easier time looking closer at those matches in common with my own relatives I've tested (self, mother, father, 2 maternal great aunts and maternal 3rd cousin, waiting for results from 2 maternal uncles and mothers 1st cousin) as I know my own linage. Need to find time to look closer at some of the other Carrico Family Project matches (after becoming familiar with their direct ancestry) so to not only help others from the Project, but to also help the project as a whole. Perhaps to close with a thought on Eric Johnson's post to this thread and assorted replies. I am finding as new matches come in, and am rescently finding more "confirmed" cousins, my focus on who to test next changes. I figure it will do this for awhile as I build both my paper trail and my atDNA matches and what question I want to answer. I do think the older the relative, the sooner you need to test. I wish I had my grandmother to test, but she passed in 2004. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Bartlett" <jim4bartletts@verizon.net> To: <autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 10:29 AM Subject: Re: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] Matches with a common surname > Linda > > I agree with Tim that surnames are OK. By talking it up, among BARTLETT researchers, we've > uncovered two dozen descendants of my line who have atDNA tested - across all 3 companies. By > collaborating, we've determined that while we don't all match each other, we do match some who > match others. And we are identifying signature segments from those ancestors. As cousins, we share > names to look for in our match lists. > > During my talks, I usually include some examples - like the Peter RUCKER line with many Y-DNA > matcher; or the HIGGINBOTHAM and GRAVES and HARRIS lines with incorrect genealogies (proven by > Y-DNA) all over Ancestry, but we still find atDNA matches by looking for that incorrect Tree which > many have. Almost every time, someone will note that they are from that line and have or will test > atDNA, so lets look for a match. I'm getting more and more feedback from Boards I posted on two > years ago. > > If, a big IF, we can get some some people atDNA mapped to the 80-90 percent level, those will be > great roadmaps (or DNAmaps). Additional matches on known segments can bevpointed directly to a > proven ancestral line. This will help break right through brick walls. At that time a great > increase in synergy will occur - helping each other fill out our DNAmaps. > > Jim - Sent from my iPhone - FaceTime! > > On Oct 5, 2013, at 2:58 PM, "Linda Boorom" <lboorom@fuse.net> wrote: > >> Tim, >> >> TY, just the encouragement I was hoping for :-) While I know it's much too soon to actually label >> this segment as coming from the immigrant ancestor, I think I have enough to red flag it. Of >> course, >> it could be from a female who married a Carrico........ I can only to hope to someday stumble >> across >> a will where grandpa is leaving something to his Carrico grandchildren!!! On chromosome 14, there >> doesn't appear to be any matches in common with any of the 3 individuals involved. There are >> other >> segments to study, but this particular one caught my interest. Will work on the others next. >> >> Uh oh, I just typed the surname in question w/o thinking, but don't think I'm really sharing >> anything here about living people who have tested by doing so. >> >> There is a Y-DNA group for this surname who Diana Matthiesen administers (a brick walled Carrico >> descendant herself). I believe (at last count) 23 have tested that match each other and there are >> no >> matches with other surnames (or didn't undergo a surname change in their linage) even at 12 >> markers. >> Roughly, only 25% of those tested can trace their roots back to the immigrant Peter Carricoe. >> Diana >> has others tested with the same or similar surname from Portugal, Turkey and Greece, none who >> have >> yet to match with our immigrants descendants. >> >> Will Family Finder testing help us to figure out where our immigrant ancestor came from? I don't >> know, perhaps in time. I'm more interested in trying to break down some of these brick walls here >> in >> the US and figure out how we all conect back to Peter. >> >> I'm hoping with a story about at least loosening a brick in the wall, even if it didn't topple >> the >> wall, might encourage others to test, esp. some of those who have already had the Y-DNA test >> done. >> >> I do have 3 pending tests from my own family, both of my mom's brothers and now mom's first >> cousin. >> I'm thinking I need to go back a generation or 2 & find some more distant cousins to test? >> >> Again Tim, TY >> >> Linda >> > > > > ______________________________ > For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: > http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the > word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >