I should know (or be able to find) the answer to this, but am coming up short. I've a cousin who is willing to take an autosomal test. For a variety of reasons, and given the current tools amongst the various companies, it would be better for me if he were to take AncestryDNA's autosomal test. He's not a genealogist/family historian, though his brother is (and has Ancestry.com trees, although he may not be active). What's the best way for both of us to see his results and matches (I'll be paying for the test)? He may choose to go with 23andme for the all around value to him and his family, but wanted to know what AncestryDNA's sharing capabilities are before I lay out the options. Thank you, Mary

Mary,  My opinion is as follows and outlines my preferred approach.  Test with 23andMe, for more in depth information as to testing in the first place.  Test with Ancestry as they have revised their program and present more accurate detail as to ethnicity than previous process allowed.  Test with FTdna for maternal and paternal prediction as to Y and MT and raw data is obtainable. Haplotype and Haplogroup information is invaluable and join the group that is pertinent to your surnames). I opine that anything less than 67 markers is simply a waste of money.  Once you have acquainted yourself of the new language involved in genetic testing results, quite a task, then you will find that your paper genealogy is confirmed, more so than if, you had not tested at all.  Study all of the information available at all sites, tutorials, etc., and it would help were you to have a friend who practices genetic biology, or is a geneticist by trade. A professional.  Read as many blogs as you can and join as many mailing lists as possible. Read CeCe Moore, Roberta J Estes, Blaine Bettinger?, Diana G Mattheison blogs and sites. Rootsweb, etc.  I opine that if one is to gain benefit from testing at all, that any effort must include all 3 that I have mentioned above. Do not read anything in to the information provided. Realize that an intensive effort is required, of one who is a novice. Understand, that the results primarily present information delving all the way back to Africa and forward to 2013. Five to Ten generations of paper genealogy is not necessarily applied in the testing results of autosomal for example, in the Ancestrydna results.  Do not test if you are not willing to expend the time and effort to understand what is presented.  As the databases increase over the next five years the results will increase 100 fold, so it might be advisable to hold off testing for a while, however your learning curve will be in place sufficiently to understand this new language you are learning.  I hope this makes sense to you and let me know if you don't mind.  Sincerely yours,  Richard Bittle >________________________________ > From: Mary E Hall <just23gen@gmail.com> >To: autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com >Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 9:44 AM >Subject: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] Sharing Ancestry DNA results with test taker (cousin) > > >I should know (or be able to find) the answer to this, but am coming up >short. > >I've a cousin who is willing to take an autosomal test.  For a variety of >reasons, and given the current tools amongst the various companies,  it >would be better for me if he were to take AncestryDNA's autosomal test. >He's not a genealogist/family historian, though his brother is (and >has Ancestry.com trees, although he may not be active). > >What's the best way for both of us to see his results and matches (I'll be >paying for the test)?  He may choose to go with 23andme for the all around >value to him and his family, but wanted to know what AncestryDNA's sharing >capabilities are before I lay out the options. > >Thank you, > >Mary > > >______________________________ >For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: >http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Thanks, all. I'm pretty familiar with all 3 options for test companies, as I have many cousins and friends well covered in all 3. Also, I co-lead the DNA Special Interest group for our local genealogical society so I have to stay pretty current. I agree; all those blogs mentioned are incredibly helpful, as is this group, most often. I'm looking at AncestryDNA because their one edge -- extensive family trees -- is very important in this particular situation. I realize I won't be able to do any chromosome browsing or segment comparisons...I'm just looking for another data point on some colonial New England names. I'll try to get the answer on AncestryDNA. Thanks! On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 8:41 AM, bittle1@frontier.com <bittle1@frontier.com>wrote: > Mary, > My opinion is as follows and outlines my preferred approach. > Test with 23andMe, for more in depth information as to testing in the > first place. > Test with Ancestry as they have revised their program and present more > accurate detail as to ethnicity than previous process allowed. > Test with FTdna for maternal and paternal prediction as to Y and MT and > raw data is obtainable. Haplotype and Haplogroup information is invaluable > and join the group that is pertinent to your surnames). I opine that > anything less than 67 markers is simply a waste of money. > Once you have acquainted yourself of the new language involved in genetic > testing results, quite a task, then you will find that your paper genealogy > is confirmed, more so than if, you had not tested at all. > Study all of the information available at all sites, tutorials, etc., and > it would help were you to have a friend who practices genetic biology, or > is a geneticist by trade. A professional. > Read as many blogs as you can and join as many mailing lists as possible. > Read CeCe Moore, Roberta J Estes, Blaine Bettinger?, Diana G Mattheison > blogs and sites. Rootsweb, etc. > I opine that if one is to gain benefit from testing at all, that any > effort must include all 3 that I have mentioned above. Do not read anything > in to the information provided. Realize that an intensive effort is > required, of one who is a novice. Understand, that the results primarily > present information delving all the way back to Africa and forward to 2013. > Five to Ten generations of paper genealogy is not necessarily applied in > the testing results of autosomal for example, in the Ancestrydna results. > Do not test if you are not willing to expend the time and effort to > understand what is presented. > As the databases increase over the next five years the results will > increase 100 fold, so it might be advisable to hold off testing for a > while, however your learning curve will be in place sufficiently to > understand this new language you are learning. > I hope this makes sense to you and let me know if you don't mind. > Sincerely yours, > Richard Bittle > > > > > >________________________________ > > From: Mary E Hall <just23gen@gmail.com> > >To: autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com > >Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 9:44 AM > >Subject: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] Sharing Ancestry DNA results with test taker > (cousin) > > > > > >I should know (or be able to find) the answer to this, but am coming up > >short. > > > >I've a cousin who is willing to take an autosomal test. For a variety of > >reasons, and given the current tools amongst the various companies, it > >would be better for me if he were to take AncestryDNA's autosomal test. > >He's not a genealogist/family historian, though his brother is (and > >has Ancestry.com trees, although he may not be active). > > > >What's the best way for both of us to see his results and matches (I'll be > >paying for the test)? He may choose to go with 23andme for the all around > >value to him and his family, but wanted to know what AncestryDNA's sharing > >capabilities are before I lay out the options. > > > >Thank you, > > > >Mary > > > > > >______________________________ > >For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: > >http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html > > > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ______________________________ > For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: > http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

You can share access from two different accounts. If it is purchased through your account, but they register it, then it will show up in both of your accounts. CeCe Moore www.yourgeneticgenealogist.com > Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 07:44:23 -0700 > From: just23gen@gmail.com > To: autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] Sharing Ancestry DNA results with test taker (cousin) I should know (or be able to find) the answer to this, but am coming up short. I've a cousin who is willing to take an autosomal test. For a variety of reasons, and given the current tools amongst the various companies, it would be better for me if he were to take AncestryDNA's autosomal test. He's not a genealogist/family historian, though his brother is (and has Ancestry.com trees, although he may not be active). What's the best way for both of us to see his results and matches (I'll be paying for the test)? He may choose to go with 23andme for the all around value to him and his family, but wanted to know what AncestryDNA's sharing capabilities are before I lay out the options. Thank you, Mary

CeCe and others, I had many problems with the Registered guest account. The Main one being that my tree would show as private to matches and I would get requests to pay for an additional account. Ancestry finally moved my test to the main account so that my matches see it at that account. I could see the test from both accounts but matches could not and it kept asking for more $$$. They changed something when they went live as it worked fine till then. I would recommend that you work from one account unless you feel like paying for more thaan one. Allen ----- Original Message ----- From: "CeCe Moore" <cecemoore@hotmail.com> To: "Autossomal DNA List" <autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 2:32 PM Subject: Re: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] Sharing Ancestry DNA results with test taker (cousin) > You can share access from two different accounts. If it is purchased > through your account, but they register it, then it will show up in both > of your accounts. > > CeCe Moore > www.yourgeneticgenealogist.com > > >> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 07:44:23 -0700 >> From: just23gen@gmail.com >> To: autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] Sharing Ancestry DNA results with test taker >> (cousin) > > I should know (or be able to find) the answer to this, but am coming up > short. > I've a cousin who is willing to take an autosomal test. For a variety of > reasons, and given the current tools amongst the various companies, it > would be better for me if he were to take AncestryDNA's autosomal test. > He's not a genealogist/family historian, though his brother is (and has > Ancestry.com trees, although he may not be active). > What's the best way for both of us to see his results and matches (I'll be > paying for the test)? He may choose to go with 23andme for the all around > value to him and his family, but wanted to know what AncestryDNA's sharing > capabilities are before I lay out the options. > Thank you, > Mary > > > > > > ______________________________ > For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: > http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

That was the kind of feedback information I was looking for! I knew my cousin could register for an Ancestry.com guest account, but knew I'd probably be the one managing it, at least at the beginning, and also knew I wanted to be able to play around (work?) with names and places. I wonder if the below is why most of my recent matches with Ancestry.com seem to have private trees? Appreciate the experience based advise. Thanks! On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 7:35 PM, Allen <KE7IQQ@comcast.net> wrote: > CeCe and others, > I had many problems with the Registered guest account. The Main one being > that my tree would show as private to matches and I would get requests to > pay for an additional account. Ancestry finally moved my test to the main > account so that my matches see it at that account. I could see the test > from > both accounts but matches could not and it kept asking for more $$$. > > They changed something when they went live as it worked fine till then. I > would recommend that you work from one account unless you feel like paying > for more thaan one. > > Allen > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "CeCe Moore" <cecemoore@hotmail.com> > To: "Autossomal DNA List" <autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 2:32 PM > Subject: Re: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] Sharing Ancestry DNA results with test taker > (cousin) > > > > You can share access from two different accounts. If it is purchased > > through your account, but they register it, then it will show up in both > > of your accounts. > > > > CeCe Moore > > www.yourgeneticgenealogist.com > > > > > >> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 07:44:23 -0700 > >> From: just23gen@gmail.com > >> To: autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com > >> Subject: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] Sharing Ancestry DNA results with test taker > >> (cousin) > > > > > > I've a cousin who is willing to take an autosomal test. For a variety of > > reasons, and given the current tools amongst the various companies, it > > would be better for me if he were to take AncestryDNA's autosomal test. > > He's not a genealogist/family historian, though his brother is (and has > > Ancestry.com trees, although he may not be active). > > What's the best way for both of us to see his results and matches (I'll > be > > paying for the test)? > > > Mary > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________ > > For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please > see: > > http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ______________________________ > For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: > http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Mary Are you sure you're not muddling the companies up? AncestryDNA have very limited tools compared to the other testing companies and you would be much better getting your cousin to test with 23andMe or Family Tree DNA instead. See the autosomal DNA testing comparison chart in the ISOGG Wiki: http://www.isogg.org/wiki/Autosomal_DNA_testing_comparison_chart Whichever company he tests with you would have to get him to share the log in details for the personal page on the company website. Debbie