Look under Dual Geographical projects. Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hausa84 Mann" <hausa84@me.com> To: <autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:14 PM Subject: Re: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] atDNA Projects > Barbara > > Can you provide more specificity on the name of the Northern Neck VA > project? I can not find it on FTDNA and would love to join. > > Thank you > > Hausa

Emily, Jim Barlett is the admin of the Northern Neck Virginia project. This project was promoted originally as atDNA and also y and mt. I'm a member of this project and was hoping Jim would respond to your post. The project is located at FTDNA and is open to people having ancestors from the Northern Neck counties (6 counties). Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Emily Aulicino" <aulicino@hevanet.com> To: <autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 3:24 PM Subject: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] atDNA Projects Greetings! I'm looking for admins who run autosomal DNA projects (Family Finder, DNA Relatives, AncestryDNA) to learn about how you structure them. I know there are some out there, but access to viewing them is not possible through typical means. I know many other Admins allow FF tests to be a part of their surname (or whatever) project, but I'm looking for projects that are strictly for autosomal testing. A few questions: Is your project set-up at FTDNA and/or your own website? What are the parameters of the project? (i.e., all descendants from a certain 4th great-grandparents) What criteria is used to include testers as not everyone will match the targeted ancestors? Other nuances of the project? Many thanks! Emily If you do not hear from me in a timely manner, just write again...I was buried in email. LOL http://writingyourmemories.blogspot.com/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~orgco2/speaker/EmilyAulicino.html http://genealem-geneticgenealogy.blogspot.com/ Northwest Regional Coordinator and Speaker for ISOGG (www.isogg.org) Administrator for thirteen FTDNA DNA Projects ______________________________ For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks, Emily. I had proposed a panel discussion for adoptionDNA, but it wasn't accepted. Maybe we can add it here since there will be a handful of experts there with a ton of knowledge. CeCe Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: Emily Aulicino Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 1:03 PM To: ISOGG@yahoogroups.com; autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com Reply To: ISOGG@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ISOGG] Quick Ideas for Table Discussions To get the juices flowing, hereâs a quick list of ideas. We may need some ideas for the more advanced attendees just as we need discussions for the novice. Most of these would be for the Newbie, no doubt. Remember these discussions are less than an hour, so they canât get too deep. 1. Family Finder â Creating and managing a project 2. Triangulating Y-DNA to find where mutations happened to determine ancestral haplotypes and to justify lineages when the paper trail is absent 3. Best practices for running DNA projects 4. Finding Common Ancestors with Family Finder (includes testing relatives, understanding HIRs, what genealogical data is necessary, and touching briefly on phasing for the novice in this area. 5. Genetic Genealogyâs Future â Where do we go from here? Formulate and prioritize a list of what would assist the genealogist in the future (I know Bennett may not want to hear the list! Iâm sure he has his own vast list. LOL) 6. SNPs â Why are they so important and how are they being used to determine more refined locations when paper trails are missing. (i.e., Seven Septs of Laois, for example) Best wishes, E If you do not hear from me in a timely manner, just write again...I was buried in email. LOL [1]http://writingyourmemories.blogspot.com/ [2]http://www.rootsweb.com/~orgco2/speaker/EmilyAulicino.html [3]http://genealem-geneticgenealogy.blogspot.com/ Northwest Regional Coordinator and Speaker for ISOGG ([4]www.isogg.org) Administrator for thirteen FTDNA DNA Projects __._,_.___ [5]Reply via web post [6]Reply to sender [7]Reply to group [8]Start a New Topic [9]Messages in this topic (1) Recent Activity: [10]Visit Your Group [11]Yahoo! Groups Switch to: [12]Text-Only, [13]Daily Digest ⢠[14]Unsubscribe ⢠[15]Terms of Use ⢠[16]Send us Feedback . [stime=1381867378] __,_._,___ References 1. http://writingyourmemories.blogspot.com/ 2. http://www.rootsweb.com/~orgco2/speaker/EmilyAulicino.html 3. http://genealem-geneticgenealogy.blogspot.com/ 4. http://www.isogg.org/ 5. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ISOGG/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJyY2k4OWM0BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE0ODc1MTU2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTY5MDkzMgRtc2dJZAMzMzgxMARzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNycGx5BHN0aW1lAzEzODE4NjczNzg-?act=reply&messageNum=33810 6. mailto:aulicino@hevanet.com?subject=Re%3A%20Quick%20Ideas%20for%20Table%20Discussions 7. mailto:ISOGG@yahoogroups.com?subject=Re%3A%20Quick%20Ideas%20for%20Table%20Discussions 8. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ISOGG/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJmOHY2ZmN2BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE0ODc1MTU2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTY5MDkzMgRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNudHBjBHN0aW1lAzEzODE4NjczNzg- 9. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ISOGG/message/33810;_ylc=X3oDMTM3NTlsZW1jBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE0ODc1MTU2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTY5MDkzMgRtc2dJZAMzMzgxMARzZWMDZnRyBHNsawN2dHBjBHN0aW1lAzEzODE4NjczNzgEdHBjSWQDMzM4MTA- 10. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ISOGG;_ylc=X3oDMTJmYnVoaXZqBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE0ODc1MTU2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTY5MDkzMgRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2Z2hwBHN0aW1lAzEzODE4NjczNzg- 11. http://groups.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTJla2dxdWs3BF9TAzk3NDc2NTkwBGdycElkAzE0ODc1MTU2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTY5MDkzMgRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNnZnAEc3RpbWUDMTM4MTg2NzM3OA-- 12. mailto:ISOGG-traditional@yahoogroups.com?subject=Change%20Delivery%20Format:%20Traditional 13. mailto:ISOGG-digest@yahoogroups.com?subject=Email%20Delivery:%20Digest 14. mailto:ISOGG-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe 15. http://info.yahoo.com/legal/us/yahoo/utos/terms/ 16. mailto:ygroupsnotifications@yahoogroups.com?subject=Feedback%20on%20the%20redesigned%20individual%20mail%20v1

To get the juices flowing, here's a quick list of ideas. We may need some ideas for the more advanced attendees just as we need discussions for the novice. Most of these would be for the Newbie, no doubt. Remember these discussions are less than an hour, so they can't get too deep. 1. Family Finder - Creating and managing a project 2. Triangulating Y-DNA to find where mutations happened to determine ancestral haplotypes and to justify lineages when the paper trail is absent 3. Best practices for running DNA projects 4. Finding Common Ancestors with Family Finder (includes testing relatives, understanding HIRs, what genealogical data is necessary, and touching briefly on phasing for the novice in this area. 5. Genetic Genealogy's Future - Where do we go from here? Formulate and prioritize a list of what would assist the genealogist in the future (I know Bennett may not want to hear the list! I'm sure he has his own vast list. LOL) 6. SNPs - Why are they so important and how are they being used to determine more refined locations when paper trails are missing. (i.e., Seven Septs of Laois, for example) Best wishes, E If you do not hear from me in a timely manner, just write again...I was buried in email. LOL http://writingyourmemories.blogspot.com/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~orgco2/speaker/EmilyAulicino.html http://genealem-geneticgenealogy.blogspot.com/ Northwest Regional Coordinator and Speaker for ISOGG (www.isogg.org <http://www.isogg.org/> ) Administrator for thirteen FTDNA DNA Projects

Word back from FTDNA is they could create a spot for "round table discussions" but they need five more subjects besides a discussion on FF. Personally, I would want that discussion to focus only on an FF project as there will be other presentations on atDNA, no doubt. (OR one table could be for Newbies using it and one for those who want to really jump into it for a project. SO.We have a few hours to decide what other table discussions would be of interest to those going. Please respond. I will be gone for a few hours this afternoon, but would like to notify FTDNA this evening to our suggestions. Of course, this would mean someone would have to "chair" each discussion. Fill in the list with your ideas and forward it to me at: Aulicino@hevanet.com I'll compile them according to the number of interests and offer that to FTDNA. 1. Family Finder Projects 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. Thank you. Emily

Hi Emily, Shannon and I also administer the Hemings/Jefferson autosomal DNA Project. We use both ancestor-projects.com at Gedmatch and Family Tree DNA (integrated into the already existing surname projects) to host. I also keep a spreadsheet of some key people's matches. Best, CeCe Moore www.yourgeneticgenealogist.com > From: shannon.s.christmas@gmail.com > Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2013 19:40:47 -0400 > To: autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] atDNA Projects > > Hi Emily, > I administer The Captain Thomas Graves of Jamestown Autosomal DNA Project > on GEDmatch/Ancestor-Projects.com. > > My project is open to all *proven* descendants of Captain Thomas Graves and > Katherine Crowshaw; the proven lines are on The Graves Family Association > website: http://www.gravesfa.org/. I compare each prospective participants' > pedigree against the Captain's approved descendant chart. > > I have the accepted participants - recruited on 23andMe, AncestryDNA, and > Family Finder - upload their raw data to GEDmatch and register for > Ancestor-Projects.com. As you may already know, Ancestor-Projects is down > for maintenance, but the platform permits one to compare participants from > all of the companies and reports project results with intuitive matrices. > > Very Respectfully, > Shannon > > > On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Emily Aulicino <aulicino@hevanet.com>wrote: > > > Greetings! > > > > I’m looking for admins who run autosomal DNA projects (Family Finder, DNA > > Relatives, AncestryDNA) to learn about how you structure them. > > > > I know there are some out there, but access to viewing them is not possible > > through typical means. I know many other Admins allow FF tests to be a > > part > > of their surname (or whatever) project, but I’m looking for projects that > > are strictly for autosomal testing. > > > > A few questions: > > Is your project set-up at FTDNA and/or your own website? > > What are the parameters of the project? (i.e., all descendants from a > > certain 4th great-grandparents) > > What criteria is used to include testers as not everyone will match the > > targeted ancestors? > > > > Other nuances of the project? > > > > Many thanks! > > Emily > > If you do not hear from me in a timely manner, just write again...I was > > buried in email. LOL > > http://writingyourmemories.blogspot.com/ > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~orgco2/speaker/EmilyAulicino.html > > http://genealem-geneticgenealogy.blogspot.com/ > > Northwest Regional Coordinator and Speaker for ISOGG (www.isogg.org) > > Administrator for thirteen FTDNA DNA Projects > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________ > > For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: > > http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > Mr. Shannon S. Christmas > Chief Market Advisor | Design Strategist > The Christmas Collective <http://thechristmascollective.com/> > Strategic Real Estate and Land Use Solutions > New York, NY | Washington, DC > P: 212.433.0586 | 202.618.1687 > F: 1.888.788.5984 > shannon.christmas@thechristmascollective.com > http://www.linkedin.com/in/shannonchristmas/ > > > ______________________________ > For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: > http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Tim, I've been wondering. Do we need to know we have Mennonite ancestry to join that project, or would joining give a clue whether it might exist? I've been curious whether my family might have Mennonite Huebner connections, especially as we have Russian DNA matches, but we haven't yet been able to locate the Huebner emigrants in the area they claimed to come from (Posen, specifically Polajewo). There's a Mennonite project at FTDNA that always pops up as a suggestion for my family due to the Huebner surname. Thanks, Karla On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 10:50 PM, Tim Janzen <tjanzen@comcast.net> wrote: > Dear Emily, > We have about 200 people in the Low German Mennonite DNA project > who > have done Family Finder, 23andMe, and/or AncestryDNA. See > http://kquilting.homeserver.com/23andme/index.html. Wayne Kauffman > processes the raw data files and generates an Excel file that contains all > of the HIRs that are thought to be IBD among the participants. Some people > are analyzing the data on their own. The eventual goal is to eventually > build DNA profiles for as many of the original Mennonite settlers in Russia > as feasible. We will need to have many more people tested before we can do > that to any extent. I want to eventually automate that entire process, but > haven't had enough time to develop the software to do that. > Sincerely, > Tim Janzen > >

I just want to thank everyone for sharing some information about their atDNA projects. It is quite interesting to see the various approaches ... which was my purpose. Thank you.and much success with your projects. E If you do not hear from me in a timely manner, just write again...I was buried in email. LOL http://writingyourmemories.blogspot.com/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~orgco2/speaker/EmilyAulicino.html http://genealem-geneticgenealogy.blogspot.com/ Northwest Regional Coordinator and Speaker for ISOGG (www.isogg.org <http://www.isogg.org/> ) Administrator for thirteen FTDNA DNA Projects

Dear Emily, We have about 200 people in the Low German Mennonite DNA project who have done Family Finder, 23andMe, and/or AncestryDNA. See http://kquilting.homeserver.com/23andme/index.html. Wayne Kauffman processes the raw data files and generates an Excel file that contains all of the HIRs that are thought to be IBD among the participants. Some people are analyzing the data on their own. The eventual goal is to eventually build DNA profiles for as many of the original Mennonite settlers in Russia as feasible. We will need to have many more people tested before we can do that to any extent. I want to eventually automate that entire process, but haven't had enough time to develop the software to do that. Sincerely, Tim Janzen -----Original Message----- From: autosomal-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:autosomal-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Emily Aulicino Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 3:25 PM To: autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] atDNA Projects Importance: High Greetings! I'm looking for admins who run autosomal DNA projects (Family Finder, DNA Relatives, AncestryDNA) to learn about how you structure them. Many thanks! Emily

Hi Emily, I administer The Captain Thomas Graves of Jamestown Autosomal DNA Project on GEDmatch/Ancestor-Projects.com. My project is open to all *proven* descendants of Captain Thomas Graves and Katherine Crowshaw; the proven lines are on The Graves Family Association website: http://www.gravesfa.org/. I compare each prospective participants' pedigree against the Captain's approved descendant chart. I have the accepted participants - recruited on 23andMe, AncestryDNA, and Family Finder - upload their raw data to GEDmatch and register for Ancestor-Projects.com. As you may already know, Ancestor-Projects is down for maintenance, but the platform permits one to compare participants from all of the companies and reports project results with intuitive matrices. Very Respectfully, Shannon On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Emily Aulicino <aulicino@hevanet.com>wrote: > Greetings! > > I’m looking for admins who run autosomal DNA projects (Family Finder, DNA > Relatives, AncestryDNA) to learn about how you structure them. > > I know there are some out there, but access to viewing them is not possible > through typical means. I know many other Admins allow FF tests to be a > part > of their surname (or whatever) project, but I’m looking for projects that > are strictly for autosomal testing. > > A few questions: > Is your project set-up at FTDNA and/or your own website? > What are the parameters of the project? (i.e., all descendants from a > certain 4th great-grandparents) > What criteria is used to include testers as not everyone will match the > targeted ancestors? > > Other nuances of the project? > > Many thanks! > Emily > If you do not hear from me in a timely manner, just write again...I was > buried in email. LOL > http://writingyourmemories.blogspot.com/ > http://www.rootsweb.com/~orgco2/speaker/EmilyAulicino.html > http://genealem-geneticgenealogy.blogspot.com/ > Northwest Regional Coordinator and Speaker for ISOGG (www.isogg.org) > Administrator for thirteen FTDNA DNA Projects > > > > > > > ______________________________ > For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: > http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Mr. Shannon S. Christmas Chief Market Advisor | Design Strategist The Christmas Collective <http://thechristmascollective.com/> Strategic Real Estate and Land Use Solutions New York, NY | Washington, DC P: 212.433.0586 | 202.618.1687 F: 1.888.788.5984 shannon.christmas@thechristmascollective.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/shannonchristmas/

Greetings! I’m looking for admins who run autosomal DNA projects (Family Finder, DNA Relatives, AncestryDNA) to learn about how you structure them. I know there are some out there, but access to viewing them is not possible through typical means. I know many other Admins allow FF tests to be a part of their surname (or whatever) project, but I’m looking for projects that are strictly for autosomal testing. A few questions: Is your project set-up at FTDNA and/or your own website? What are the parameters of the project? (i.e., all descendants from a certain 4th great-grandparents) What criteria is used to include testers as not everyone will match the targeted ancestors? Other nuances of the project? Many thanks! Emily If you do not hear from me in a timely manner, just write again...I was buried in email.  LOL http://writingyourmemories.blogspot.com/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~orgco2/speaker/EmilyAulicino.html http://genealem-geneticgenealogy.blogspot.com/ Northwest Regional Coordinator and Speaker for ISOGG (www.isogg.org) Administrator for thirteen FTDNA DNA Projects

If you do not have the proper vial and solutions, then you get better preservation by letting the sample air dry (as long as the sample is wet, bacteria and mold can attack it). Then place the sample in a clean, new envelope or brown kraft paper bag - never plastic. Do not package it while still wet. If possible, wear latex gloves while taking the sample, and don't touch it, breath or cough or sneeze on it, etc. Diana > From: Jane Murtishaw Lindsey > Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 10:37 PM > To: autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] Storing DNA when a person dies > > Regarding the message below about using cotton swabs and sealing in a > plastic bag. An autosomal match of mine did that with her father and > later tried to submit it to FTDNA. She was told that putting it in a > plastic bag contaminated it and it would not be usable. > Does anyone else have information regarding saving DNA samples? > > Jane

Regarding the message below about using cotton swabs and sealing in a plastic bag. An autosomal match of mine did that with her father and later tried to submit it to FTDNA. She was told that putting it in a plastic bag contaminated it and it would not be usable. Does anyone else have information regarding saving DNA samples? Jane ------ Message: 7 Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2013 12:51:42 -0700 From: "Allen" <KE7IQQ@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] DNA test lab profile To: <autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <084A47438B8B4975A9948409C452252E@catal64a> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Tim, Mary; I have ordered additional testing over a year after the first test and Ancestry was able to do the test from the origional sample so they do save it, or the Sorensone lab they use saved it. I know I asked about that when I did the first test and think it is the lab that has the sample. Like the samples at the other labs you can run out so the ability to send a additional Sample is useful for older people. Also When a person passes the next of kin or executor can ask that a sample be taken and some labs can use the cheek swabs even if they are just taken with standard cotten swabs and a sent in a plastic bag, as long as the person has not specifically refused to have a DNA test during their lifetime. I did not see the ability to name a person as Benificiary of your test mentioned. This is something you may want to do. I believe at least two of the labs let you do this. I would also mention that you can make up for some areas that a lab does not provide by using GEDMatch.com to add functionallity. The ability to transfer tests from one lab to another can be a useful thing as a person becomes more experianced with the use of DNA testing. Allen

Thanks, Allen. I'm just now appreciating how important getting, saving, and transferring the lab specimen is to my "spiel". I stress the importance of getting the oldest people tested, due to the dilution effect of distant ancestors with each generation. I'd like to also present what people's options are for at least getting the sample, somehow, and having it available when time, technology and/or funds present themselves. Many of the questions I get are along the lines of "can they get DNA from (fill in the blank)?" To my knowledge, of the 4 involved in genetic genealogy, only FT DNA will take 'non-standard issue' samples. I'm also very intent on talking to and encouraging genealogists to take a DNA test as they are the ones with the paperwork, will appreciate the potential for solving brick walls/mysteries, will take satisfaction in seeing possible genetic proof of their years of "lineage" work, and -- perhaps most importantly -- will not balk at the hard work (and expense) required to make best use of autosomal testing. I agree....need to add to my table the options for obtaining samples, and keeping them viable (and transferring). I also need to find out if, when transferring to FT DNA, you are transferring data or the raw results. I'm a bit leery of recommending Gedmatch to others without fully understanding what is being passed on, although I use it and mention it (with caution). Thanks for the input. Great thoughts. Mary On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Allen <KE7IQQ@comcast.net> wrote: > Tim, Mary; > > I have ordered additional testing over a year after the first test and > Ancestry was able to do the test from the origional sample so they do save > it, or the Sorensone lab they use saved it. I know I asked about that when > I did the first test and think it is the lab that has the sample. > > Like the samples at the other labs you can run out so the ability to send > a additional Sample is useful for older people. > Also When a person passes the next of kin or executor can ask that a > sample be taken and some labs can use the cheek swabs even if they are just > taken with standard cotten swabs and a sent in a plastic bag, as long as > the person has not specifically refused to have a DNA test during their > lifetime. > > I did not see the ability to name a person as Benificiary of your test > mentioned. This is something you may want to do. I believe at least two of > the labs let you do this. > > I would also mention that you can make up for some areas that a lab does > not provide by using GEDMatch.com to add functionallity. > > The ability to transfer tests from one lab to another can be a useful > thing as a person becomes more experianced with the use of DNA testing. > > Allen > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim Janzen" <tjanzen@comcast.net> > To: <autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 11:59 AM > Subject: Re: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] DNA test lab profile > > > > Dear Mary, > > 23andMe asks you at the time you register your kit whether or not you > want > > to have your DNA sample saved by 23andMe. I don't recall seeing > anything in > > Ancestry.com's consent process about saving the DNA sample. I suspect > that > > Ancestry.com doesn't save the DNA samples, but I don't have confirmation > on > > that. Thanks for your kind comments about the comparison chart. I hope > > that people are finding it helpful. Other people have also made helpful > > suggestions for improvement in the chart. > > Sincerely, > > Tim Janzen > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: autosomal-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com > > [mailto:autosomal-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mary E Hall > > Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 11:01 AM > > To: autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] DNA test lab profile > > > > Also, I started thinking about lab sample practices...I know FT DNA keeps > > samples, but not sure about the other 2. I think don't think it'll come > > up, but it's a good thing to know, especially if you have an older person > > who has only tested with AncestryDNA. Seems like the follow-on testing > > would be kind of limited. > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Mary E Hall > > > > > > > > ______________________________ > > For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please > see: > > http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ______________________________ > For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: > http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Tim, Mary; I have ordered additional testing over a year after the first test and Ancestry was able to do the test from the origional sample so they do save it, or the Sorensone lab they use saved it. I know I asked about that when I did the first test and think it is the lab that has the sample. Like the samples at the other labs you can run out so the ability to send a additional Sample is useful for older people. Also When a person passes the next of kin or executor can ask that a sample be taken and some labs can use the cheek swabs even if they are just taken with standard cotten swabs and a sent in a plastic bag, as long as the person has not specifically refused to have a DNA test during their lifetime. I did not see the ability to name a person as Benificiary of your test mentioned. This is something you may want to do. I believe at least two of the labs let you do this. I would also mention that you can make up for some areas that a lab does not provide by using GEDMatch.com to add functionallity. The ability to transfer tests from one lab to another can be a useful thing as a person becomes more experianced with the use of DNA testing. Allen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Janzen" <tjanzen@comcast.net> To: <autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 11:59 AM Subject: Re: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] DNA test lab profile > Dear Mary, > 23andMe asks you at the time you register your kit whether or not you want > to have your DNA sample saved by 23andMe. I don't recall seeing anything in > Ancestry.com's consent process about saving the DNA sample. I suspect that > Ancestry.com doesn't save the DNA samples, but I don't have confirmation on > that. Thanks for your kind comments about the comparison chart. I hope > that people are finding it helpful. Other people have also made helpful > suggestions for improvement in the chart. > Sincerely, > Tim Janzen > > -----Original Message----- > From: autosomal-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:autosomal-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mary E Hall > Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 11:01 AM > To: autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] DNA test lab profile > > Also, I started thinking about lab sample practices...I know FT DNA keeps > samples, but not sure about the other 2. I think don't think it'll come > up, but it's a good thing to know, especially if you have an older person > who has only tested with AncestryDNA. Seems like the follow-on testing > would be kind of limited. > > Thanks in advance, > > Mary E Hall > > > > ______________________________ > For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: > http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Mary, 23andMe asks you at the time you register your kit whether or not you want to have your DNA sample saved by 23andMe. I don't recall seeing anything in Ancestry.com's consent process about saving the DNA sample. I suspect that Ancestry.com doesn't save the DNA samples, but I don't have confirmation on that. Thanks for your kind comments about the comparison chart. I hope that people are finding it helpful. Other people have also made helpful suggestions for improvement in the chart. Sincerely, Tim Janzen -----Original Message----- From: autosomal-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:autosomal-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mary E Hall Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 11:01 AM To: autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] DNA test lab profile Also, I started thinking about lab sample practices...I know FT DNA keeps samples, but not sure about the other 2. I think don't think it'll come up, but it's a good thing to know, especially if you have an older person who has only tested with AncestryDNA. Seems like the follow-on testing would be kind of limited. Thanks in advance, Mary E Hall

Also, upon more careful reading, I see that big kudos go -- once again -- to Tim Janzen for putting these profile together. Thank you, Tim! On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Mary E Hall <just23gen@gmail.com> wrote: > Extremely helpful! Thank you! > > In preparing & delivering these kinds of talks -- and listening to the > questions -- I'm ever more aware that until you take a DNA test, much of > what is discussed in workshop, webinars, and on these boards is completely > Greek. Then it's almost overwhelming trying to figure out what the results > mean, depending on the various test companies' "results" and "tools". > > I have tremendous admiration and respect for all who are giving of their > time and talents to help educate us all in this very exciting, though > pioneering, field for genealogists. ISOGG is a great resource, that's for > sure. > > Thanks, again. > > Mary > > On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Larry Vick <jameslvick@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> Mary, >> >> The chart at this link should be helpful. >> >> http://www.isogg.org/wiki/Autosomal_DNA_testing_comparison_chart >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Larry >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Mary E Hall <just23gen@gmail.com> >> To: autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 2:00 PM >> Subject: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] DNA test lab profile >> >> >> Hello all- >> >> I'm giving an intro workshop for our genealogical society on "Making the >> Most of your DNA Test Results" tomorrow for Family History Month. I'm >> profiling all 3 major genetic genealogy tests, and their strengths and >> weaknesses, and how best to make use of their tools (it's only 2 hours so >> it will be high level) >> >> Anyone have any current info on database size for AncestryDNA, 23andMe, >> FamilyTreeDNA? I have info from June but wonder if there's anything more >> current. Of course, I'll suggest "fishing in all 3 ponds" but for people >> who are just getting started, that will probably seem like a bit much. >> >> Also, I started thinking about lab sample practices...I know FT DNA keeps >> samples, but not sure about the other 2. I think don't think it'll come >> up, but it's a good thing to know, especially if you have an older person >> who has only tested with AncestryDNA. Seems like the follow-on testing >> would be kind of limited. >> >> Thanks in advance, >> >> Mary E Hall >> >> >> ______________________________ >> For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: >> http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ______________________________ >> For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: >> http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >

Extremely helpful! Thank you! In preparing & delivering these kinds of talks -- and listening to the questions -- I'm ever more aware that until you take a DNA test, much of what is discussed in workshop, webinars, and on these boards is completely Greek. Then it's almost overwhelming trying to figure out what the results mean, depending on the various test companies' "results" and "tools". I have tremendous admiration and respect for all who are giving of their time and talents to help educate us all in this very exciting, though pioneering, field for genealogists. ISOGG is a great resource, that's for sure. Thanks, again. Mary On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Larry Vick <jameslvick@yahoo.com> wrote: > Mary, > > The chart at this link should be helpful. > > http://www.isogg.org/wiki/Autosomal_DNA_testing_comparison_chart > > > Regards, > > Larry > > > ________________________________ > From: Mary E Hall <just23gen@gmail.com> > To: autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 2:00 PM > Subject: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] DNA test lab profile > > > Hello all- > > I'm giving an intro workshop for our genealogical society on "Making the > Most of your DNA Test Results" tomorrow for Family History Month. I'm > profiling all 3 major genetic genealogy tests, and their strengths and > weaknesses, and how best to make use of their tools (it's only 2 hours so > it will be high level) > > Anyone have any current info on database size for AncestryDNA, 23andMe, > FamilyTreeDNA? I have info from June but wonder if there's anything more > current. Of course, I'll suggest "fishing in all 3 ponds" but for people > who are just getting started, that will probably seem like a bit much. > > Also, I started thinking about lab sample practices...I know FT DNA keeps > samples, but not sure about the other 2. I think don't think it'll come > up, but it's a good thing to know, especially if you have an older person > who has only tested with AncestryDNA. Seems like the follow-on testing > would be kind of limited. > > Thanks in advance, > > Mary E Hall > > > ______________________________ > For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: > http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ______________________________ > For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: > http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Mary, The chart at this link should be helpful. http://www.isogg.org/wiki/Autosomal_DNA_testing_comparison_chart Regards, Larry ________________________________ From: Mary E Hall <just23gen@gmail.com> To: autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 2:00 PM Subject: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] DNA test lab profile Hello all- I'm giving an intro workshop for our genealogical society on "Making the Most of your DNA Test Results" tomorrow for Family History Month.  I'm profiling all 3 major genetic genealogy tests, and their strengths and weaknesses, and how best to make use of their tools (it's only 2 hours so it will be high level) Anyone have any current info on database size for AncestryDNA, 23andMe, FamilyTreeDNA?  I have info from June but wonder if there's anything more current.  Of course, I'll suggest "fishing in all 3 ponds" but for people who are just getting started, that will probably seem like a bit much. Also, I started thinking about lab sample practices...I know FT DNA keeps samples, but not sure about the other 2.  I think don't think it'll come up, but it's a good thing to know, especially if you have an older person who has only tested with AncestryDNA.  Seems like the follow-on testing would be kind of limited. Thanks in advance, Mary E Hall ______________________________ For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello all- I'm giving an intro workshop for our genealogical society on "Making the Most of your DNA Test Results" tomorrow for Family History Month. I'm profiling all 3 major genetic genealogy tests, and their strengths and weaknesses, and how best to make use of their tools (it's only 2 hours so it will be high level) Anyone have any current info on database size for AncestryDNA, 23andMe, FamilyTreeDNA? I have info from June but wonder if there's anything more current. Of course, I'll suggest "fishing in all 3 ponds" but for people who are just getting started, that will probably seem like a bit much. Also, I started thinking about lab sample practices...I know FT DNA keeps samples, but not sure about the other 2. I think don't think it'll come up, but it's a good thing to know, especially if you have an older person who has only tested with AncestryDNA. Seems like the follow-on testing would be kind of limited. Thanks in advance, Mary E Hall