Linda, I attended the round table discussion on Saturday for the atDNA Projects and then for autosomal DNA on Sunday -- two different round tables. I believe we all had tons of questions and I hope that FTDNA management does follow through with some of the suggestions that were submitted. Connie Bradshaw In a message dated 11/13/2013 3:40:44 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, lboorom@fuse.net writes: Wondering if you attended the round table discussion listed for Sunday re atDNA Projects? Or if anyone from the list attended. As an admin of a Project with 50=+ members, I'm trying to determine where to go from here. I've tons of questions, wish I could have been there to listen and/or to ask. Linda Boorom -----Original Message----- From: Rvsailor@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 8:30 AM To: dna-newbie@yahoogroups.com ; autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] DNA Conference Thank You As a new autosomal DNA project manager, I attended this years' DNA Conference in Houston this past weekend. I would like to thank all those who took me under their wing and provided so much helpful information. The speakers were wonderful and the lab tour very impressive but the best part was meeting and sharing information with the other attendees! Thank You! Connie Bradshaw John Carson of WNC Bradshaw & Harris ______________________________ For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________ For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Wondering if you attended the round table discussion listed for Sunday re atDNA Projects? Or if anyone from the list attended. As an admin of a Project with 50=+ members, I'm trying to determine where to go from here. I've tons of questions, wish I could have been there to listen and/or to ask. Linda Boorom -----Original Message----- From: Rvsailor@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 8:30 AM To: dna-newbie@yahoogroups.com ; autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] DNA Conference Thank You As a new autosomal DNA project manager, I attended this years' DNA Conference in Houston this past weekend. I would like to thank all those who took me under their wing and provided so much helpful information. The speakers were wonderful and the lab tour very impressive but the best part was meeting and sharing information with the other attendees! Thank You! Connie Bradshaw John Carson of WNC Bradshaw & Harris ______________________________ For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Linda, I was the moderator for Sunday Autosomal DNA projects. I am still away from home, visiting the library in Salt Lake. Most of the discussion was oriented toward what we could use as administrators and the same basic requests were made over and over throughout the weekend. The only Sent from my iPhone On Nov 13, 2013, at 1:44 PM, Rvsailor@aol.com wrote: > Linda, I attended the round table discussion on Saturday for the atDNA > Projects and then for autosomal DNA on Sunday -- two different round tables. > I believe we all had tons of questions and I hope that FTDNA management > does follow through with some of the suggestions that were submitted. > > Connie Bradshaw > > > In a message dated 11/13/2013 3:40:44 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > lboorom@fuse.net writes: > > Wondering if you attended the round table discussion listed for Sunday re > atDNA Projects? Or if > anyone from the list attended. As an admin of a Project with 50=+ members, > I'm trying to determine > where to go from here. I've tons of questions, wish I could have been > there to listen and/or to ask. > > Linda Boorom > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rvsailor@aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 8:30 AM > To: dna-newbie@yahoogroups.com ; autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] DNA Conference Thank You > > As a new autosomal DNA project manager, I attended this years' DNA > Conference in Houston this past weekend. I would like to thank all those > who took > me under their wing and provided so much helpful information. The > speakers were wonderful and the lab tour very impressive but the best > part was > meeting and sharing information with the other attendees! Thank You! > > Connie Bradshaw > John Carson of WNC > Bradshaw & Harris > > > ______________________________ > For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: > http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the > word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > > > ______________________________ > For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: > http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > > > > ______________________________ > For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: > http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

As a new autosomal DNA project manager, I attended this years' DNA Conference in Houston this past weekend. I would like to thank all those who took me under their wing and provided so much helpful information. The speakers were wonderful and the lab tour very impressive but the best part was meeting and sharing information with the other attendees! Thank You! Connie Bradshaw John Carson of WNC Bradshaw & Harris

Tickets are now on sale for Who Do You Think You Are? Live 2014: http://www.whodoyouthinkyouarelive.com The workshop schedule is up on the website: http://www.whodoyouthinkyouarelive.com/workshop-schedule Bruce Winney is in the Celebrity Theatre on Saturday talking about the People of the British Isles Project. Let's hope that the long-promised paper will have been published by the time he gives his talk! If anyone is thinking of attending you will find further information on travel and sightseeing on the WDYTYA page in the ISOGG Wiki: http://www.isogg.org/wiki/Event:Who_Do_You_Think_You_Are%3F_Conference_and_I SOGG TinyURL in case the link breaks: http://tinyurl.com/ISOGGWDYTYA Family Tree DNA sponsor the DNA workshops but the schedule is not normally announced until the New Year. Debbie

Karla, I suggest calling the company and ordering over the phone. I have found them to be very helpful. Charlotte -----Original Message----- From: autosomal-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:autosomal-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Karla Huebner Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2013 11:00 AM To: autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] ordering a batch of Family Finder tests I've been procrastinating on ordering Family Finder tests for my surviving aunts and uncles--now it looks like one of them is not long for this world, so I want to get tests ordered in a hurry, either to send to them or to take with me next time we get together (which I hope will not be a funeral but very well could be). I've never done more than one FTDNA order at a time--is there a quick and easy way to order several at once with no names yet attached to the kits? I would just put them all on my credit card and I think ship them to myself for now. The order form looks like it wants one at a time with full details on people. Thanks, Karla ______________________________ For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks--ordered them on the phone as recommended! Karla On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 6:48 PM, Mary Guler <mlmguler@yahoo.com> wrote: > Call them to place the order, and explain as you have here. They will > have a solution! Mary > > On Nov 5, 2013, at 10:59, Karla Huebner <calypsospots@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I've been procrastinating on ordering Family Finder tests for my > surviving > > aunts and uncles--now it looks like one of them is not long for this > world, > > so I want to get tests ordered in a hurry, either to send to them or to > > take with me next time we get together (which I hope will not be a > funeral > > but very well could be). > > > > I've never done more than one FTDNA order at a time--is there a quick and > > easy way to order several at once with no names yet attached to the > kits? I > > would just put them all on my credit card and I think ship them to myself > > for now. The order form looks like it wants one at a time with full > details > > on people. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Karla > > > > > > ______________________________ > > For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please > see: > > http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ______________________________ > For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: > http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Call them to place the order, and explain as you have here. They will have a solution! Mary On Nov 5, 2013, at 10:59, Karla Huebner <calypsospots@gmail.com> wrote: > I've been procrastinating on ordering Family Finder tests for my surviving > aunts and uncles--now it looks like one of them is not long for this world, > so I want to get tests ordered in a hurry, either to send to them or to > take with me next time we get together (which I hope will not be a funeral > but very well could be). > > I've never done more than one FTDNA order at a time--is there a quick and > easy way to order several at once with no names yet attached to the kits? I > would just put them all on my credit card and I think ship them to myself > for now. The order form looks like it wants one at a time with full details > on people. > > Thanks, > > Karla > > > ______________________________ > For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: > http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'm wondering if there are any other FTDNA admin's on list who have checked the "Family Finder Illumina OmniExpress Matrix" for matches in common with other members of their group in the past few days. I noticed this morning & have checked again now that I am home from work: A) new matches dated 10/31/13 are not appearing nor are B) matches with older dates now appearing with the rerun of the database effecting some of the cM's. I've only checked a few individuals, some of my closest kin including myself. I've 50+ members in my group & could probably check more, but I think what I've found would be the same for all. The runs of the past week are not showing up in the Matrix. Thus, using the Matrix to see what matches are in common with other members of the group are useless at this time. Can anyone else concur and if so, how do we let FTDNA know? Linda

Thanks, I was wondering if that might be the best idea. My relative is over 90 and going downhill; other than wanting to test, I think it is probably best that the end is near. Then again, we've thought the end was near more than once before for this relative, who bounces back amazingly! I don't want anyone to go before they are ready. Karla On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 12:45 PM, CeCe Moore <cecemoore@hotmail.com> wrote: > I would call them to order. > Sorry about your aunt/uncle. > > CeCe Moore > www.yourgeneticgenealogist.com > > > > Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 10:59:46 -0500 > > From: calypsospots@gmail.com > > To: autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] ordering a batch of Family Finder tests > > > > I've been procrastinating on ordering Family Finder tests for my > surviving > > aunts and uncles--now it looks like one of them is not long for this > world, > > so I want to get tests ordered in a hurry, either to send to them or to > > take with me next time we get together (which I hope will not be a > funeral > > but very well could be). > > > > I've never done more than one FTDNA order at a time--is there a quick and > > easy way to order several at once with no names yet attached to the > kits? I > > would just put them all on my credit card and I think ship them to myself > > for now. The order form looks like it wants one at a time with full > details > > on people. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Karla > > > > > > > ______________________________ > For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: > http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I've been procrastinating on ordering Family Finder tests for my surviving aunts and uncles--now it looks like one of them is not long for this world, so I want to get tests ordered in a hurry, either to send to them or to take with me next time we get together (which I hope will not be a funeral but very well could be). I've never done more than one FTDNA order at a time--is there a quick and easy way to order several at once with no names yet attached to the kits? I would just put them all on my credit card and I think ship them to myself for now. The order form looks like it wants one at a time with full details on people. Thanks, Karla

I would call them to order. Sorry about your aunt/uncle. CeCe Moore www.yourgeneticgenealogist.com > Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 10:59:46 -0500 > From: calypsospots@gmail.com > To: autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] ordering a batch of Family Finder tests > > I've been procrastinating on ordering Family Finder tests for my surviving > aunts and uncles--now it looks like one of them is not long for this world, > so I want to get tests ordered in a hurry, either to send to them or to > take with me next time we get together (which I hope will not be a funeral > but very well could be). > > I've never done more than one FTDNA order at a time--is there a quick and > easy way to order several at once with no names yet attached to the kits? I > would just put them all on my credit card and I think ship them to myself > for now. The order form looks like it wants one at a time with full details > on people. > > Thanks, > > Karla >

Isn't it possible to download your ICW list from FTDNA, sort (in Excel) by chromosome and megabasepair, and thus identify true ICW groups (presumably sharing a common ancestor)? Best, Eric OpenPGP: 0x1AF7E6F2 ● Skype: oneota ● XMPP/OTR: berekum@jabber.ccc.de ● Silent Circle: +1 312 614-0159 > -----Original Message----- > From: autosomal-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:autosomal-dna- > bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Emily Aulicino > Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2013 01.40 > To: autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] ICW - and small segments > > FTDNA's term Triangulate is misleading and should be changed, IMO. > > All the ICW tells you is that those people have matching segments with you > and the person you choose. It, in NO WAY, suggests that you have the same > half-identical region.

My sister and I match a man and his sister as 4th cousins. Both families have Lithuanian ancestry as well as ancestry from Great Britain, and while we suspect we are related through our Lithuanian ancestry, we have no proof of that. A week ago, when I triangulated my results with this male cousin, I found only the two sets of siblings; however, when I did the same thing today, I found a man who tested in 2011 was new to the mix. His surnames reflect Great Britain, Switzerland and Germany. I notified the male cousin match, and he has no cousin match listed with the man I find in our triangulation report. When he triangulates me with his results, he finds a female with the surname Karlsson, no surnames listed. I do not have any matches with this name in my results.... I am confused! How valid are any of these results? Mary

One is on your/his paternal side and one is on your/his maternal side. Remember, you have two chromosomes at each spot - one from mom and one from dad. You match on either his paternal or maternal side and Karlsson matches on the other. He matches you on either your maternal or paternal side and your "new" match matches on the other. CeCe Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: Mary Guler Sent: Monday, November 4, 2013 6:27 PM To: autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com Reply To: autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] Triangulation results My sister and I match a man and his sister as 4th cousins. Both families have Lithuanian ancestry as well as ancestry from Great Britain, and while we suspect we are related through our Lithuanian ancestry, we have no proof of that. A week ago, when I triangulated my results with this male cousin, I found only the two sets of siblings; however, when I did the same thing today, I found a man who tested in 2011 was new to the mix. His surnames reflect Great Britain, Switzerland and Germany. I notified the male cousin match, and he has no cousin match listed with the man I find in our triangulation report. When he triangulates me with his results, he finds a female with the surname Karlsson, no surnames listed. I do not have any matches with this name in my results.... I am confused! How valid are any of these results? Mary ______________________________ For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sorry you won't be there Jim, I'm asking all the moderators of the discussions to have someone take notes and send them to me to share with people in our field. I hope this happens, but I cannot control others, although I have been known to try! LOL Yes, an opt-in solution would be fine, IMO. I'll be doing some "fast talking" on all this. E -----Original Message----- From: autosomal-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:autosomal-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jim Bartlett Sent: Monday, November 04, 2013 10:44 AM To: autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] ICW - and small segments Emily Thanks. I regret that I will not be at the FTDNA conference this year, due to other family commitments. I hope the blogs cover all the official, and side-line items. However, just using my spreadsheet (sorted on Chr and Start), and a growing list of Common Ancestors, I have been able to assign over 80% of my atDNA. I am now at about 450 segments covering all of both sets of chromosomes. I try to get as close to 7cM on each, but many segments are a little larger (if a 12cM segment were really two 6cM segments further back, I wouldn't get any matches on those more distant ancestors as the segments are below threshold) BTW, if FTDNA thinks a capability to compare the data of two Matches violates a privacy issue, give each of us the option to be compared after we "sign" a consent form. Jim - Sent from my iPhone - FaceTime! On Nov 4, 2013, at 1:21 PM, "Emily Aulicino" <aulicino@hevanet.com> wrote: > Thanks Jim, for clarifying/backing me up! > > The ability to determine if two of a person's matches match each other > (determining HIRs) will be a hot topic at the FTDNA conference this > year (on the side lines, that is.) I will be pushing for it as will > others, no doubt. With the size of our matches list and the pains > taking time to ask and get replies, this needs to be implemented by every company, IMO. > > E > ______________________________ For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'll miss you guys, too - this frontier is changing quickly, and I wish I could make. At 22andMe not everyone is included - only those who accept invitations to reveal themselves, specific requests to share segment info and/or opted-in by taking a survey. Fortunately most folks interested in genealogy do these and we can share segment info. Similarly at GEDmatch, the participants opt-in for sharing info. FTDNA should at least give us this option. Jim - Sent from my iPhone - FaceTime! On Nov 4, 2013, at 2:18 PM, CeCe Moore <cecemoore@hotmail.com> wrote: > We'll miss you this weekend, Jim! > > 23andMe allows us to compare all of our matches to each other (that we are sharing with) and they are much stricter about privacy than FTDNA, so I think it is likely that this feature can be added there. > > CeCe Moore > www.yourgeneticgenealogist.com > > >> From: jim4bartletts@verizon.net >> Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 13:44:21 -0500 >> To: autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] ICW - and small segments >> >> Emily >> >> Thanks. I regret that I will not be at the FTDNA conference this year, due to other family commitments. I hope the blogs cover all the official, and side-line items. >> >> However, just using my spreadsheet (sorted on Chr and Start), and a growing list of Common Ancestors, I have been able to assign over 80% of my atDNA. I am now at about 450 segments covering all of both sets of chromosomes. I try to get as close to 7cM on each, but many segments are a little larger (if a 12cM segment were really two 6cM segments further back, I wouldn't get any matches on those more distant ancestors as the segments are below threshold) >> >> BTW, if FTDNA thinks a capability to compare the data of two Matches violates a privacy issue, give each of us the option to be compared after we "sign" a consent form. >> >> Jim - Sent from my iPhone - FaceTime!

Emily Thanks. I regret that I will not be at the FTDNA conference this year, due to other family commitments. I hope the blogs cover all the official, and side-line items. However, just using my spreadsheet (sorted on Chr and Start), and a growing list of Common Ancestors, I have been able to assign over 80% of my atDNA. I am now at about 450 segments covering all of both sets of chromosomes. I try to get as close to 7cM on each, but many segments are a little larger (if a 12cM segment were really two 6cM segments further back, I wouldn't get any matches on those more distant ancestors as the segments are below threshold) BTW, if FTDNA thinks a capability to compare the data of two Matches violates a privacy issue, give each of us the option to be compared after we "sign" a consent form. Jim - Sent from my iPhone - FaceTime! On Nov 4, 2013, at 1:21 PM, "Emily Aulicino" <aulicino@hevanet.com> wrote: > Thanks Jim, for clarifying/backing me up! > > The ability to determine if two of a person's matches match each other > (determining HIRs) will be a hot topic at the FTDNA conference this year (on > the side lines, that is.) I will be pushing for it as will others, no > doubt. With the size of our matches list and the pains taking time to ask > and get replies, this needs to be implemented by every company, IMO. > > E >

I do have my matches over 7.7 in a spreadsheet. But not finding the matches that show ICW I had to drop down to a match that was only 1+ and one that was 3+. But I had much larger matches elsewhere with these two. I just wanted to be sure that I was right in thinking the two tiny matches aren't really important. That is an idea to look at the spreadsheet you can get for ICW. I forgot about that. Thanks, Chris That's the problem with ICW (and FTDNA), there is no way there to compare two other people. ICW means the two people have a shared segment (I presume to be 7.7cM, or more) somewhere. ICW does not say where, so you don't know if it's on the same segment that they both share with you. Much of the time it is (I don't know what percentage), but often it is not. To verify an ICW is indeed a Triangulation with you, you need to ask them where their shared segment is. If they are both on GEDmatch it's easy. If they both also have 23andMe kits, it's easy. If neither of these two, and they won't respond to your emails, you're stuck. Even if two people share the same segment with you, you cannot be sure that it's on the same chromosome (parent's side), unless they match each other on that segment (which you can't see at FTDNA). 1cM matches don't count in Triangulation - almost any two people could have a 1cM match. Jim - Sent from my iPhone - FaceTime! On Nov 4, 2013, at 12:21 PM, Christina Hunt <chrisnina@gmail.com> wrote: > I am not sure how to think about the ICW feature. When I use it and then > compare to my chromosome browser or spreadsheet, I get no matching chromosomes > unless I look at 1 cm. > Can that be right? It doesn't seem a large enough segment to mean anything. > If I compare only larger matches I find them on a different chromosome with > fewer of the ICW matches FF gives me. Same with Gedmatch. > > Can someone explain if these are really matches? > > Chris

Eric, The short answer is no. I use a spreadsheet with all of my segments over 7cM (from FTDNA, 23andMe and GEDmatch). I can easily see everyone who is on equal and overlapping segments. Without other info, you cannot tell whose segment is from which parent. At 23andMe and GEDmatch you can see which of their segments match each other. You can then group them (Triangulation), but you still don't know which of your parents the segment is from. Now if you have any known relative on this segment (parent, aunt/uncle, cousin), you know which side they are on and if they match a person or someone in a Triangulated group, you can assign all of that group to that parent's side. And/or, if the relative's segment should overlap a Triangulated group sufficiently to be a match, but isn't, then you can assign that group to the other parent's side. Clearly if you have phased data/segments, that will let you assign matching segments. IMO, ICW files don't provide enough data to make Triangulated groups. You could make tentative groups, but some will not hold up. Jim - Sent from my iPhone - FaceTime! On Nov 4, 2013, at 12:50 PM, "Eric S Johnson" <crates@oneotaslopes.org> wrote: > Isn't it possible to download your ICW list from FTDNA, sort (in Excel) by > chromosome and megabasepair, and thus identify true ICW groups (presumably > sharing a common ancestor)? > > Best, > Eric > OpenPGP: 0x1AF7E6F2 ● Skype: oneota ● XMPP/OTR: berekum@jabber.ccc.de ● > Silent Circle: +1 312 614-0159 > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: autosomal-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:autosomal-dna- >> bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Emily Aulicino >> Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2013 01.40 >> To: autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] ICW - and small segments >> >> FTDNA's term Triangulate is misleading and should be changed, IMO. >> >> All the ICW tells you is that those people have matching segments with you >> and the person you choose. It, in NO WAY, suggests that you have the same >> half-identical region. >