Linda This looks like a solid Triangulation (on any Chr) with A=B=C=A; so yes, this is the same segment on the same Chr that all 3 got from the same Common Ancestor. Jim - Sent from my iPhone - FaceTime! On Nov 15, 2013, at 5:20 PM, "Linda Boorom" <lboorom@fuse.net> wrote: > Last week or so I uploaded a number of kits I manage to Gedmatch. They all are still currently only > available for one to one comparisons, so was playing around with the X chromosome this morning. > > I match my mother the entire length which is showing as 196 cM total which I understand. > > My mother's brother matches one maternal aunt the entire length 196 cM and another maternal aunt at > 188 cM. The 2 maternal aunts match each other at 188 cM with the start/stop the same as my uncle > (mother's brother) & the 2nd maternal aunt. > > Can I conclude from this that my grandmother (mother of my mother & mother of my uncle) and her > sister that matches my uncle at 196 inherited the exact same DNA on X ??? > > Uncle Aunt 1 X 2,710,157 154,545,424 196 17,475 > Uncle Aunt 2 X 2,946,472 126,664,108 136.7 13,424 > Uncle Aunt 2 X 126,687,974 133,541,438 5.3 715 > Uncle Aunt 2 X 133,559,169 148,575,315 32.1 2,328 > Uncle Aunt 2 X 148,644,876 154,545,424 14 950 > Aunt 1 Aunt 2 X 2,946,472 126,664,108 136.7 13,424 > Aunt 1 Aunt 2 X 126,687,974 133,541,438 5.3 715 > Aunt 1 Aunt 2 X 133,559,169 148,575,315 32.1 2,328 > Aunt 1 Aunt 2 X 148,644,876 154,545,424 14 950 > > Linda > >
Jim's statement about the chances being slim that 3 have an IBS is only partly true. My sister has recently gotten her data, and as expected at 1/2 of my matches at the 5th cousin level do I match her. But of that 1/2, 1/2 of that is at places where our parents each gave each of us the exact same DNA, so at that 1/4th of our genomes we are like identical twins. So we only count as 1 person at that 1/4th of our genomes. (It actually is a slight bit of corroboration since my data was V2 and hers is V3 chip.) You need to use the Family Traits app on 23 to see if you are Full IBD there instead of HIBD. On Sat, 16 Nov 2013 01:00:02 -0700, autosomal-dna-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Finding shared atDNA ancestry without phasing (Jim Bartlett) > 2. X chromosome matching (Linda Boorom) > 3. Re: Managing autosomal DNA projects (Jim Bartlett) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 16:10:42 -0600 (CST) > From: Jim Bartlett <jim4bartletts@verizon.net> > Subject: Re: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] Finding shared atDNA ancestry without > phasing > To: peterebay@yahoo.com, autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <13162610.1870934.1384553442310.JavaMail.root@vms170015> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > > Somewhat less than 2 people sharing 7cM on the same segment - with > just two > people the 7cM segment might be IBS (not from an Ancestor). If > three people > all match each other on that segment, the odds are slim that the > segment is > IBS. > > If it's an IBD segment, that means it came from a Common Ancestor. You can > not have segments from two different ancestral lines using the > same space on > a chromosome. > > The only way three people can have the same segment from one of your > chromosomes is if they got it from the same ancestral line. > > Now - two of you might have a closer MRCA, and you and the other Match a > more distant MRCA, but both MRCAs would be on the same ancestral line and > you would all descend from the more distant CA. > > The likelihood in your question is close to zero. > > This is even the case with double cousins. The shared segment came > from one > ancestor - who is ancestral to one of the 4 persons in a double cousin > relationship. > > Double cousins have twice the possibility of getting segments, so you > sometimes get 2 or 3 or more, but each one is from only one > ancestral line. > > Jim Bartlett > > On 11/15/13, Peter J. Roberts<peterebay@yahoo.com> wrote: > > If three or more people share a 7cM segment and they all match > each other on > that segment then what is > the likelihood they don't all descend from the same ancestor or > ancestral couple? > What would be other exceptions besides double cousins? > Thanks and sincerely, Peter > Peter J. Roberts > > > ------------------------------ >
Last week or so I uploaded a number of kits I manage to Gedmatch. They all are still currently only available for one to one comparisons, so was playing around with the X chromosome this morning. I match my mother the entire length which is showing as 196 cM total which I understand. My mother's brother matches one maternal aunt the entire length 196 cM and another maternal aunt at 188 cM. The 2 maternal aunts match each other at 188 cM with the start/stop the same as my uncle (mother's brother) & the 2nd maternal aunt. Can I conclude from this that my grandmother (mother of my mother & mother of my uncle) and her sister that matches my uncle at 196 inherited the exact same DNA on X ??? Uncle Aunt 1 X 2,710,157 154,545,424 196 17,475 Uncle Aunt 2 X 2,946,472 126,664,108 136.7 13,424 Uncle Aunt 2 X 126,687,974 133,541,438 5.3 715 Uncle Aunt 2 X 133,559,169 148,575,315 32.1 2,328 Uncle Aunt 2 X 148,644,876 154,545,424 14 950 Aunt 1 Aunt 2 X 2,946,472 126,664,108 136.7 13,424 Aunt 1 Aunt 2 X 126,687,974 133,541,438 5.3 715 Aunt 1 Aunt 2 X 133,559,169 148,575,315 32.1 2,328 Aunt 1 Aunt 2 X 148,644,876 154,545,424 14 950 Linda
Margaret, Thanks for your input! What you are doing with both of your projects sounds similar to what I have been trying to do with mine. In order to keep the information as private as possible I have set up a myfamily.com account which I invite members of my project to join. I'll look into a dropbox account as an alternative. There are 3 Excel files I upload to the myfamily.com as often as there are changes (usually monthly) A) a file listing all members and their most distant known Carrico ancestor and their relationship to that ancestor. (I could prob. add to that info). Most of us in the group are brickwalled and are missing 2 to 3 generations connecting to the 1674 immigrant due to lack of paper trails during the 1700's in MD. B) a file listing all members & not only the other members of the project they match, but also their matches who claim to be a Carrico descendant (via FTDNA's Ancestral Surname search function on each members page) (another to do list to invite each to join) and last, but not least C) "Matches in Common" with other members of the project. Initially I use FF Illumina OmniExpress and still do for new members. BUT, this does not give dates, so am unable to determine which are new matches since my last update. Instead, I have had to go to each person's kit to sort out the newest matches then compare to everyone else to see who has who in common with other members. (FTDNA could you add some sort of date feature to this database???) Which brings to mind the current problem with OmniExpress, it is NOT showing any of the latest matches. Abt. 10/31 FTDNA did some updates which gave us all some "new" matches but have older dates. These are not showing up in OmniExpress nor are any matches since then. I've a cousin whose results were uploaded 11/7 who still shows as having no matches via Omni. Since I want to make sure I don't miss anyone, even if the Omni was working, guess I am going to start from scratch and download each members matches, combine into one file and then compare who has what matches in common with another member..... Sigh Not looking forward to this as I know it will take me a week or more during my 'spare time'. My next big issue seems the same as yours, educating and trying to get others more involved. Linda -----Original Message----- From: Margaret Waters Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 10:10 AM To: autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] Managing autosomal DNA projects I am offering these comments in response to Linda's questions about ideas for managing an autosomal DNA project. I hope others will offer similar suggestions as I have a feeling that there are many ways to do this. I co-administer two projects at FTDNA that involve autosomal DNA test results. One project is geographically based and the other is based on descent from a common ancestral couple. I have evolved two different methods of working with the data due to the difference in focus of the two projects. The geographically based project had already been created using both Y-DNA and Mt-DNA results when I added autosomal results to it. My primary focus for this project is to get participants to send me their lineage charts showing all of their reasonably identified ancestors. I then create a chart, starting with their grandparents, and showing only those lines that are related to the geographical area of the project. This chart is then posted to a password protected site at the website of the genealogical group for the geographic area. Only participants who let me post their charts get a password. As additional "bait" to increase participation, I give everyone with a posted chart a list of all of their matches within the project. For some of us this can be as many as 20 to 25 matches (in a project that currently has about 110 autosomal DNA participants). I see one of my primary goals as being able to facilitate sharing among the members of the project. Since I have done quite a bit of research into many of the families of the area, I can also sometimes suggest ways that the matches might connect even if it is not obvious from their charts. I do stress to all of the participants that they could also match on lines that are not from the geographical area of focus. For the project that descends from the common ancestral couple I do things somewhat differently. All 26 of us have this couple in our 6th to 8th generation and we are all, except for one adoptee, fairly certain about our lineage from this couple. There are some unidentified female lines among the children of the ancestral couple and we are getting clues to possible identities on one of these females. Since I had no idea what to expect when I started this project, I have been pleasantly surprised to discover that we are learning more about the origins of the male part of the couple. (In an unusual turn of events we know the female's lineage back another 4 generations.) He was an Irish immigrant in the 1760s who came to America as a single male. We never had any hope of connecting him to his Irish ancestors but our collective autosomal DNA matches are giving us some good clues. I use a Dropbox file to keep all of our interested participants in this project updated on what we learn. These next comments would apply to either type of project. Most project participants have little understanding of what to do with their results. Some are interested in learning and some are not. I stress the value of having their data available to the project whether the participant wants to do anything with it or not. I spend a fair amount of time working with those who want to learn more. I am also the one who does most of the research in trying to understand what our test results are showing. As a co-administrator I am always looking for ways to share findings to keep interest among our members and thus get them to recruit additional relatives. Privacy is also a big issue for most participants. This creates the need to share data in a careful way, such as Dropbox or something similar or a password protected website. (I am aware that none of this is invincible but it is some additional protection.) I don't know if FTDNA would ever try to offer something along these lines, but since they don't, I have been using other resources, as mentioned, for sharing. The most useful tool at FTDNA for me is the FF Illumina OmniExpress Results report. I have talked multiple participants in both projects into transferring their test results to FTNDA from other companies so that they can be in our projects and I will be able to compare their data with other members. I get new members for both of my projects in several ways. Any of my matches pertinent to either of these projects get invited. When I find members in either project who see the value of the work, I encourage them to get their applicable matches to join as well. I also use the newsletter of the genealogical society for the area to attract interest. Neither project is easy to find at FTDNA so I usually have to walk folks through the necessary steps. I have been working on mapping my own chromosomes but had not considered trying to map those of other project members. Given the challenge, time and energy it has taken to work on mine, I am not certain I would want to try that until there are some helpful software tools to work with. I can see where it could be very useful, though. Each autosomal DNA project will probably have its own unique quirks and challenges but, perhaps, there are some ideas floating around that could help all of us. I would be delighted to hear how others work with their projects. Margaret PS. The couple project I manage is a subset of the geographical project but, for whatever reasons, I can't get all of the applicable participants in each project to participate in both....
I set up a FTDNA atDNA Project for the Northern Neck of VA - we have a rootsweb email, a facebook page, a Message Board, an Ancestry Family Tree with over 50 Editors, and the atDNA project. We have many participants who have joined. I'm still trying to figure out how to facilitate or admin this group. There is lots of potential here. One way involves a lot of my time and effort to work with all the files - I can't keep up with my own atDNA Another way is to have individuals report on the email list when they determine a Common Ancestor and let us know the CA and the segment. I'm looking for some middle ground. I think one item might be to download the Matches for each participant, put them in a large spreadsheet, and sort on the Match names - looking for the larger groups of Matches. This isn't ICW or Triangulation, but it's something. It takes an hour or so to take the DNAGEDcom files (Matches and Segment). and merge them using only 7.7cM and above segments. And there is a privacy issue here. I could ask each participant to send me those two files if they wanted to be included in a large spreadsheet that could be sorted by segment.... Or have them send me the merged files first... But we'd still need a way for all to benefit from this. I could send the master spreadsheet back out to everyone who wants to participate. Or use dropbox and have everyone work on the same spreadsheet. It's hard to work with atDNA data for just one person, it gets really cumbersome for several - a project might have 20-50 or more.... just rambling' Jim Bartlett On 11/15/13, Margaret Waters<mg44wat@bellsouth.net> wrote: I am offering these comments in response to Linda's questions about ideas for managing an autosomal DNA project. I hope others will offer similar suggestions as I have a feeling that there are many ways to do this. I co-administer two projects at FTDNA that involve autosomal DNA test results. One project is geographically based and the other is based on descent from a common ancestral couple. I have evolved two different methods of working with the data due to the difference in focus of the two projects. The geographically based project had already been created using both Y-DNA and Mt-DNA results when I added autosomal results to it. My primary focus for this project is to get participants to send me their lineage charts showing all of their reasonably identified ancestors. I then create a chart, starting with their grandparents, and showing only those lines that are related to the geographical area of the project. This chart is then posted to a password protected site at the website of the genealogical group for the geographic area. Only participants who let me post their charts get a password. As additional "bait" to increase participation, I give everyone with a posted chart a list of all of their matches within the project. For some of us this can be as many as 20 to 25 matches (in a project that currently has about 110 autosomal DNA participants). I see one of my primary goals as being able to facilitate sharing among the members of the project. Since I have done quite a bit of research into many of the families of the area, I can also sometimes suggest ways that the matches might connect even if it is not obvious from their charts. I do stress to all of the participants that they could also match on lines that are not from the geographical area of focus. For the project that descends from the common ancestral couple I do things somewhat differently. All 26 of us have this couple in our 6th to 8th generation and we are all, except for one adoptee, fairly certain about our lineage from this couple. There are some unidentified female lines among the children of the ancestral couple and we are getting clues to possible identities on one of these females. Since I had no idea what to expect when I started this project, I have been pleasantly surprised to discover that we are learning more about the origins of the male part of the couple. (In an unusual turn of events we know the female's lineage back another 4 generations.) He was an Irish immigrant in the 1760s who came to America as a single male. We never had any hope of connecting him to his Irish ancestors but our collective autosomal DNA matches are giving us some good clues. I use a Dropbox file to keep all of our interested participants in this project updated on what we learn. These next comments would apply to either type of project. Most project participants have little understanding of what to do with their results. Some are interested in learning and some are not. I stress the value of having their data available to the project whether the participant wants to do anything with it or not. I spend a fair amount of time working with those who want to learn more. I am also the one who does most of the research in trying to understand what our test results are showing. As a co-administrator I am always looking for ways to share findings to keep interest among our members and thus get them to recruit additional relatives. Privacy is also a big issue for most participants. This creates the need to share data in a careful way, such as Dropbox or something similar or a password protected website. (I am aware that none of this is invincible but it is some additional protection.) I don't know if FTDNA would ever try to offer something along these lines, but since they don't, I have been using other resources, as mentioned, for sharing. The most useful tool at FTDNA for me is the FF Illumina OmniExpress Results report. I have talked multiple participants in both projects into transferring their test results to FTNDA from other companies so that they can be in our projects and I will be able to compare their data with other members. I get new members for both of my projects in several ways. Any of my matches pertinent to either of these projects get invited. When I find members in either project who see the value of the work, I encourage them to get their applicable matches to join as well. I also use the newsletter of the genealogical society for the area to attract interest. Neither project is easy to find at FTDNA so I usually have to walk folks through the necessary steps. I have been working on mapping my own chromosomes but had not considered trying to map those of other project members. Given the challenge, time and energy it has taken to work on mine, I am not certain I would want to try that until there are some helpful software tools to work with. I can see where it could be very useful, though. Each autosomal DNA project will probably have its own unique quirks and challenges but, perhaps, there are some ideas floating around that could help all of us. I would be delighted to hear how others work with their projects. Margaret PS. The couple project I manage is a subset of the geographical project but, for whatever reasons, I can't get all of the applicable participants in each project to participate in both.... ______________________________ For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: [1]http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to A[2]UTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message References 1. http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html 2. mailto:UTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com
Somewhat less than 2 people sharing 7cM on the same segment - with just two people the 7cM segment might be IBS (not from an Ancestor). If three people all match each other on that segment, the odds are slim that the segment is IBS. If it's an IBD segment, that means it came from a Common Ancestor. You can not have segments from two different ancestral lines using the same space on a chromosome. The only way three people can have the same segment from one of your chromosomes is if they got it from the same ancestral line. Now - two of you might have a closer MRCA, and you and the other Match a more distant MRCA, but both MRCAs would be on the same ancestral line and you would all descend from the more distant CA. The likelihood in your question is close to zero. This is even the case with double cousins. The shared segment came from one ancestor - who is ancestral to one of the 4 persons in a double cousin relationship. Double cousins have twice the possibility of getting segments, so you sometimes get 2 or 3 or more, but each one is from only one ancestral line. Jim Bartlett On 11/15/13, Peter J. Roberts<peterebay@yahoo.com> wrote: If three or more people share a 7cM segment and they all match each other on that segment then what is the likelihood they don't all descend from the same ancestor or ancestral couple? What would be other exceptions besides double cousins? Thanks and sincerely, Peter Peter J. Roberts
If three or more people share a 7cM segment and they all match each other on that segment then what is the likelihood they don't all descend from the same ancestor or ancestral couple? What would be other exceptions besides double cousins? Thanks and sincerely, Peter Peter J. Roberts
I am offering these comments in response to Linda's questions about ideas for managing an autosomal DNA project. I hope others will offer similar suggestions as I have a feeling that there are many ways to do this. I co-administer two projects at FTDNA that involve autosomal DNA test results. One project is geographically based and the other is based on descent from a common ancestral couple. I have evolved two different methods of working with the data due to the difference in focus of the two projects. The geographically based project had already been created using both Y-DNA and Mt-DNA results when I added autosomal results to it. My primary focus for this project is to get participants to send me their lineage charts showing all of their reasonably identified ancestors. I then create a chart, starting with their grandparents, and showing only those lines that are related to the geographical area of the project. This chart is then posted to a password protected site at the website of the genealogical group for the geographic area. Only participants who let me post their charts get a password. As additional "bait" to increase participation, I give everyone with a posted chart a list of all of their matches within the project. For some of us this can be as many as 20 to 25 matches (in a project that currently has about 110 autosomal DNA participants). I see one of my primary goals as being able to facilitate sharing among the members of the project. Since I have done quite a bit of research into many of the families of the area, I can also sometimes suggest ways that the matches might connect even if it is not obvious from their charts. I do stress to all of the participants that they could also match on lines that are not from the geographical area of focus. For the project that descends from the common ancestral couple I do things somewhat differently. All 26 of us have this couple in our 6th to 8th generation and we are all, except for one adoptee, fairly certain about our lineage from this couple. There are some unidentified female lines among the children of the ancestral couple and we are getting clues to possible identities on one of these females. Since I had no idea what to expect when I started this project, I have been pleasantly surprised to discover that we are learning more about the origins of the male part of the couple. (In an unusual turn of events we know the female's lineage back another 4 generations.) He was an Irish immigrant in the 1760s who came to America as a single male. We never had any hope of connecting him to his Irish ancestors but our collective autosomal DNA matches are giving us some good clues. I use a Dropbox file to keep all of our interested participants in this project updated on what we learn. These next comments would apply to either type of project. Most project participants have little understanding of what to do with their results. Some are interested in learning and some are not. I stress the value of having their data available to the project whether the participant wants to do anything with it or not. I spend a fair amount of time working with those who want to learn more. I am also the one who does most of the research in trying to understand what our test results are showing. As a co-administrator I am always looking for ways to share findings to keep interest among our members and thus get them to recruit additional relatives. Privacy is also a big issue for most participants. This creates the need to share data in a careful way, such as Dropbox or something similar or a password protected website. (I am aware that none of this is invincible but it is some additional protection.) I don't know if FTDNA would ever try to offer something along these lines, but since they don't, I have been using other resources, as mentioned, for sharing. The most useful tool at FTDNA for me is the FF Illumina OmniExpress Results report. I have talked multiple participants in both projects into transferring their test results to FTNDA from other companies so that they can be in our projects and I will be able to compare their data with other members. I get new members for both of my projects in several ways. Any of my matches pertinent to either of these projects get invited. When I find members in either project who see the value of the work, I encourage them to get their applicable matches to join as well. I also use the newsletter of the genealogical society for the area to attract interest. Neither project is easy to find at FTDNA so I usually have to walk folks through the necessary steps. I have been working on mapping my own chromosomes but had not considered trying to map those of other project members. Given the challenge, time and energy it has taken to work on mine, I am not certain I would want to try that until there are some helpful software tools to work with. I can see where it could be very useful, though. Each autosomal DNA project will probably have its own unique quirks and challenges but, perhaps, there are some ideas floating around that could help all of us. I would be delighted to hear how others work with their projects. Margaret PS. The couple project I manage is a subset of the geographical project but, for whatever reasons, I can't get all of the applicable participants in each project to participate in both....
> From: Diana Gale Matthiesen > Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 12:41 PM > To: autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] please trim your backquotes > <snip> > > If you have a complaint, please message me privately. > I'm calling a halt to any further discussion on the list. > > Diana Uhhh, I didn't mean to call a halt to *all* discussion on the list, just the "trim your backquotes" thread. Diana
Tim, I understand what you are say re: mapping the project members, but not easily accomplished with my group of 50+. Everyone is or claims to be a Carrico descendant. Most by Y-DNA match with other descendants of Peter Carricoe transported to MD in 1674 but lack a paper trail connecting to him. Of my group of 50, there are probably 12 or so "groups" 3 only have a paper trail back to Peter, the rest don't. Then, I have some who match with others of different linages, some members of the project, others not members yet as I have either not found the time to invite or have invited them, but haven't joined yet. On this note, it's hard to find my project and if a certain e-mail address manages several different people, it's hard to get them all to join and I think with the last few I've invited, I send out the invite, but FTDNA adds something about buying a kit to join, even though the individual already has a kit.............. Then I send a note they don't have to buy a new kit to join dadadada For my own kin (8 of us now) I can use http://www.dnagedcom.com/ to download all the chromosome browser info, but cant' for other members. Until the recent updates, which I haven’t updated as yet, I was compiling a list a matches in common with each other in the project. Can't currently do that via my admin page as the latest uploads are not showing. (Matt Dexter is aware and supp. talked to IT last weekend) I'm not sure that the "matches in common" with is generating enough interest with the project members to get them involved with input to the project. there are tons, so it's a bit overwhelming when all are looking for immediate answers, which I know they aren't going to find without some work. So, I'm looking for something to develop more interest, to get us to work together.............. I don't think the tools at FTDNA help me on this, I do think what you are saying might, but not easily accomplished. Linda -----Original Message----- From: Tim Janzen Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 1:22 AM To: autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] DNA Conference Thank You Dear Linda, Anyone managing an atDNA project with a large number of members faces the same issues you do. The best approach is to start mapping the chromosomes of all of your project members as best as you can. This is a challenging undertaking because there aren't any automated mapping tools at this point. It helps a lot if all of your project members are one parent/one child pairs or two parent/one child trios. In my opinion it is best of all atDNA projects are coordinated. AtDNA projects should be grouped by ethnicity and by region. There is a lot of overlap between the various different projects. To maximize the mapping you need to coordinate this process with other administrators. At this point, I think that the key thing to do initially is to make sure you have complete pedigree charts for all of your atDNA project members. Then pick some smaller goals such as trying to figure out how certain project members are related to each other if there is genetic evidence for that and if the genealogical relationship is not know. The larger long term goals such as large scale mapping will likely need to come in the future as we get more people tested and as automated phasing and mapping tools are developed. If you have additional questions that weren't addressed at the conference I would suggest you post your questions on this list. Sincerely, Tim Janzen -----Original Message----- From: autosomal-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:autosomal-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Linda Boorom Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 12:38 PM To: autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] DNA Conference Thank You Wondering if you attended the round table discussion listed for Sunday re atDNA Projects? Or if anyone from the list attended. As an admin of a Project with 50=+ members, I'm trying to determine where to go from here. I've tons of questions, wish I could have been there to listen and/or to ask. Linda Boorom
Emily, I'd love to see your notes, as well. Andrea Andrea Perisho a.perisho@embarqmail.com www.andreamusgroveperisho.com - a genealogy blog -----Original Message----- From: autosomal-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:autosomal-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Emily Aulicino Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 7:18 PM To: autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] DNA Conference Thank You Linda, I'm compiling the notes from the table discussions and can send in a day or two. I'm still waiting for a few people. However, if ISOGG can't take an attachment, that is a problem. I'll let people know what I decide on how to share it. Maybe dropbox, but it's not a huge file. I may just put it in the body of an email. E -----Original Message----- From: autosomal-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:autosomal-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Linda Boorom Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 1:48 PM To: autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] DNA Conference Thank You Jennifer, Your reply seems to have been cut off. Wishing you luck with the research in Salt Lake. Hoping you'll have some time when you get home to give those of us unable to attend some feedback. Linda -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer Zinck Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 4:08 PM To: autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] DNA Conference Thank You Linda, I was the moderator for Sunday Autosomal DNA projects. I am still away from home, visiting the library in Salt Lake. Most of the discussion was oriented toward what we could use as administrators and the same basic requests were made over and over throughout the weekend. The only Sent from my iPhone On Nov 13, 2013, at 1:44 PM, Rvsailor@aol.com wrote: > Linda, I attended the round table discussion on Saturday for the atDNA > Projects and then for autosomal DNA on Sunday -- two different round tables. > I believe we all had tons of questions and I hope that FTDNA > management does follow through with some of the suggestions that were submitted. > > Connie Bradshaw > > > In a message dated 11/13/2013 3:40:44 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > lboorom@fuse.net writes: > > Wondering if you attended the round table discussion listed for Sunday > re atDNA Projects? Or if anyone from the list attended. As an admin > of a Project with 50=+ members, I'm trying to determine where to go > from here. I've tons of questions, wish I could have been there to > listen and/or to ask. > > Linda Boorom > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rvsailor@aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 8:30 AM > To: dna-newbie@yahoogroups.com ; autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] DNA Conference Thank You > > As a new autosomal DNA project manager, I attended this years' DNA > Conference in Houston this past weekend. I would like to thank all > those who took > me under their wing and provided so much helpful information. The > speakers were wonderful and the lab tour very impressive but the best > part was > meeting and sharing information with the other attendees! Thank You! > > Connie Bradshaw > John Carson of WNC > Bradshaw & Harris > > > ______________________________ > For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: > http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ______________________________ > For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: > http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ______________________________ > For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: > http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________ For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________ For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________ For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
After Blaine gave permission for me to modify his X-DNA charts I put downloads online at ( http://debsdelvings.blogspot.com/2013/10/x-dna-inheritance-charts.html). Sue Griffith has modified the layout and add ahnentafel numbers with downloads available at (http://www.genealogyjunkie.net/downloads.html). So cool that Creative Commons licenses allow others to build on our work without waiting to get permission so we can all benefit. Regards, Debbie Debbie Parker Wayne, CG, CGL -- <a href="http://debbiewayne.com/">Wayne Research</a> -- <a href="http://debsdelvings.blogspot.com/">Deb's Delvings Blog</a> Certified Genealogist, CG, Certified Genealogical Lecturer, and CGL are proprietary service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists®, used under license by board certificants after periodic evaluations for genealogical competence.
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Jen, Of course you know we are all very jealous of you being in SLC. I've not been for years and need to go! LOL When will you be home? I want to know how long I'll wait before sending out the info. Many thanks! E -----Original Message----- From: autosomal-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:autosomal-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jennifer Zinck Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 1:09 PM To: autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] DNA Conference Thank You Linda, I was the moderator for Sunday Autosomal DNA projects. I am still away from home, visiting the library in Salt Lake. Most of the discussion was oriented toward what we could use as administrators and the same basic requests were made over and over throughout the weekend. The only Sent from my iPhone On Nov 13, 2013, at 1:44 PM, Rvsailor@aol.com wrote: > Linda, I attended the round table discussion on Saturday for the atDNA > Projects and then for autosomal DNA on Sunday -- two different round tables. > I believe we all had tons of questions and I hope that FTDNA > management does follow through with some of the suggestions that were submitted. > > Connie Bradshaw > > > In a message dated 11/13/2013 3:40:44 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > lboorom@fuse.net writes: > > Wondering if you attended the round table discussion listed for > Sunday re atDNA Projects? Or if anyone from the list attended. As an > admin of a Project with 50=+ members, I'm trying to determine where > to go from here. I've tons of questions, wish I could have been there > to listen and/or to ask. > > Linda Boorom > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rvsailor@aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 8:30 AM > To: dna-newbie@yahoogroups.com ; autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] DNA Conference Thank You > > As a new autosomal DNA project manager, I attended this years' DNA > Conference in Houston this past weekend. I would like to thank all > those who took > me under their wing and provided so much helpful information. The > speakers were wonderful and the lab tour very impressive but the > best part was > meeting and sharing information with the other attendees! Thank You! > > Connie Bradshaw > John Carson of WNC > Bradshaw & Harris > > > ______________________________ > For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: > http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ______________________________ > For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: > http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ______________________________ > For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: > http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________ For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Dear Linda, Anyone managing an atDNA project with a large number of members faces the same issues you do. The best approach is to start mapping the chromosomes of all of your project members as best as you can. This is a challenging undertaking because there aren't any automated mapping tools at this point. It helps a lot if all of your project members are one parent/one child pairs or two parent/one child trios. In my opinion it is best of all atDNA projects are coordinated. AtDNA projects should be grouped by ethnicity and by region. There is a lot of overlap between the various different projects. To maximize the mapping you need to coordinate this process with other administrators. At this point, I think that the key thing to do initially is to make sure you have complete pedigree charts for all of your atDNA project members. Then pick some smaller goals such as trying to figure out how certain project members are related to each other if there is genetic evidence for that and if the genealogical relationship is not know. The larger long term goals such as large scale mapping will likely need to come in the future as we get more people tested and as automated phasing and mapping tools are developed. If you have additional questions that weren't addressed at the conference I would suggest you post your questions on this list. Sincerely, Tim Janzen -----Original Message----- From: autosomal-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:autosomal-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Linda Boorom Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 12:38 PM To: autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] DNA Conference Thank You Wondering if you attended the round table discussion listed for Sunday re atDNA Projects? Or if anyone from the list attended. As an admin of a Project with 50=+ members, I'm trying to determine where to go from here. I've tons of questions, wish I could have been there to listen and/or to ask. Linda Boorom
Greetings! If anyone is interested, my notes from the 2013 FTDNA Conference are now on my blog along with the sale info. Best wishes, E If you do not hear from me in a timely manner, just write again...I was buried in email. LOL http://writingyourmemories.blogspot.com/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~orgco2/speaker/EmilyAulicino.html http://genealem-geneticgenealogy.blogspot.com/ Northwest Regional Coordinator and Speaker for ISOGG (www.isogg.org) Administrator for thirteen FTDNA DNA Projects
Emily, Please add me to the list interested in the notes relating to at-DNA project discussions. I wish I could have participated in the discussions. Denise in Oregon DeniseSproed@gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: autosomal-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:autosomal-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Emily Aulicino Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 4:32 PM To: autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] DNA Conference Thank You Linda, I added you to my list to send atDNA Project discussion results out to those interested. Ken Graves and I ran the discussion on Saturday and I've a lot of notes. After I distribute the notes, I hope there can be further discussion on what we would like to see for atDNA webpages and tools. Yes, FTDNA is going to implement many of our requests and have begun. They are trying to prioritize at the moment. E -----Original Message----- From: autosomal-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:autosomal-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jennifer Zinck Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 1:09 PM To: autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] DNA Conference Thank You Linda, I was the moderator for Sunday Autosomal DNA projects. I am still away from home, visiting the library in Salt Lake. Most of the discussion was oriented toward what we could use as administrators and the same basic requests were made over and over throughout the weekend. The only Sent from my iPhone On Nov 13, 2013, at 1:44 PM, Rvsailor@aol.com wrote: > Linda, I attended the round table discussion on Saturday for the atDNA > Projects and then for autosomal DNA on Sunday -- two different round tables. > I believe we all had tons of questions and I hope that FTDNA > management does follow through with some of the suggestions that were submitted. > > Connie Bradshaw > > > In a message dated 11/13/2013 3:40:44 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > lboorom@fuse.net writes: > > Wondering if you attended the round table discussion listed for Sunday > re atDNA Projects? Or if anyone from the list attended. As an admin > of a Project with 50=+ members, I'm trying to determine where to go > from here. I've tons of questions, wish I could have been there to > listen and/or to ask. > > Linda Boorom > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rvsailor@aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 8:30 AM > To: dna-newbie@yahoogroups.com ; autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] DNA Conference Thank You > > As a new autosomal DNA project manager, I attended this years' DNA > Conference in Houston this past weekend. I would like to thank all > those who took > me under their wing and provided so much helpful information. The > speakers were wonderful and the lab tour very impressive but the best > part was > meeting and sharing information with the other attendees! Thank You! > > Connie Bradshaw > John Carson of WNC > Bradshaw & Harris > > > ______________________________ > For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: > http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ______________________________ > For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: > http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ______________________________ > For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: > http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________ For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________ For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4158 / Virus Database: 3629/6818 - Release Date: 11/07/13
Jennifer, Your reply seems to have been cut off. Wishing you luck with the research in Salt Lake. Hoping you'll have some time when you get home to give those of us unable to attend some feedback. Linda -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer Zinck Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 4:08 PM To: autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] DNA Conference Thank You Linda, I was the moderator for Sunday Autosomal DNA projects. I am still away from home, visiting the library in Salt Lake. Most of the discussion was oriented toward what we could use as administrators and the same basic requests were made over and over throughout the weekend. The only Sent from my iPhone On Nov 13, 2013, at 1:44 PM, Rvsailor@aol.com wrote: > Linda, I attended the round table discussion on Saturday for the atDNA > Projects and then for autosomal DNA on Sunday -- two different round tables. > I believe we all had tons of questions and I hope that FTDNA management > does follow through with some of the suggestions that were submitted. > > Connie Bradshaw > > > In a message dated 11/13/2013 3:40:44 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > lboorom@fuse.net writes: > > Wondering if you attended the round table discussion listed for Sunday re > atDNA Projects? Or if > anyone from the list attended. As an admin of a Project with 50=+ members, > I'm trying to determine > where to go from here. I've tons of questions, wish I could have been > there to listen and/or to ask. > > Linda Boorom > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rvsailor@aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 8:30 AM > To: dna-newbie@yahoogroups.com ; autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] DNA Conference Thank You > > As a new autosomal DNA project manager, I attended this years' DNA > Conference in Houston this past weekend. I would like to thank all those > who took > me under their wing and provided so much helpful information. The > speakers were wonderful and the lab tour very impressive but the best > part was > meeting and sharing information with the other attendees! Thank You! > > Connie Bradshaw > John Carson of WNC > Bradshaw & Harris > > > ______________________________ > For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: > http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the > word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > > > ______________________________ > For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: > http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > > > > ______________________________ > For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: > http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the > word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________ For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Linda, I added you to my list to send atDNA Project discussion results out to those interested. Ken Graves and I ran the discussion on Saturday and I've a lot of notes. After I distribute the notes, I hope there can be further discussion on what we would like to see for atDNA webpages and tools. Yes, FTDNA is going to implement many of our requests and have begun. They are trying to prioritize at the moment. E -----Original Message----- From: autosomal-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:autosomal-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jennifer Zinck Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 1:09 PM To: autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] DNA Conference Thank You Linda, I was the moderator for Sunday Autosomal DNA projects. I am still away from home, visiting the library in Salt Lake. Most of the discussion was oriented toward what we could use as administrators and the same basic requests were made over and over throughout the weekend. The only Sent from my iPhone On Nov 13, 2013, at 1:44 PM, Rvsailor@aol.com wrote: > Linda, I attended the round table discussion on Saturday for the atDNA > Projects and then for autosomal DNA on Sunday -- two different round tables. > I believe we all had tons of questions and I hope that FTDNA > management does follow through with some of the suggestions that were submitted. > > Connie Bradshaw > > > In a message dated 11/13/2013 3:40:44 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > lboorom@fuse.net writes: > > Wondering if you attended the round table discussion listed for > Sunday re atDNA Projects? Or if anyone from the list attended. As an > admin of a Project with 50=+ members, I'm trying to determine where > to go from here. I've tons of questions, wish I could have been there > to listen and/or to ask. > > Linda Boorom > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rvsailor@aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 8:30 AM > To: dna-newbie@yahoogroups.com ; autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] DNA Conference Thank You > > As a new autosomal DNA project manager, I attended this years' DNA > Conference in Houston this past weekend. I would like to thank all > those who took > me under their wing and provided so much helpful information. The > speakers were wonderful and the lab tour very impressive but the > best part was > meeting and sharing information with the other attendees! Thank You! > > Connie Bradshaw > John Carson of WNC > Bradshaw & Harris > > > ______________________________ > For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: > http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ______________________________ > For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: > http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ______________________________ > For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: > http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________ For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Linda, I'm compiling the notes from the table discussions and can send in a day or two. I'm still waiting for a few people. However, if ISOGG can't take an attachment, that is a problem. I'll let people know what I decide on how to share it. Maybe dropbox, but it's not a huge file. I may just put it in the body of an email. E -----Original Message----- From: autosomal-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:autosomal-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Linda Boorom Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 1:48 PM To: autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] DNA Conference Thank You Jennifer, Your reply seems to have been cut off. Wishing you luck with the research in Salt Lake. Hoping you'll have some time when you get home to give those of us unable to attend some feedback. Linda -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer Zinck Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 4:08 PM To: autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] DNA Conference Thank You Linda, I was the moderator for Sunday Autosomal DNA projects. I am still away from home, visiting the library in Salt Lake. Most of the discussion was oriented toward what we could use as administrators and the same basic requests were made over and over throughout the weekend. The only Sent from my iPhone On Nov 13, 2013, at 1:44 PM, Rvsailor@aol.com wrote: > Linda, I attended the round table discussion on Saturday for the atDNA > Projects and then for autosomal DNA on Sunday -- two different round tables. > I believe we all had tons of questions and I hope that FTDNA > management does follow through with some of the suggestions that were submitted. > > Connie Bradshaw > > > In a message dated 11/13/2013 3:40:44 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > lboorom@fuse.net writes: > > Wondering if you attended the round table discussion listed for > Sunday re atDNA Projects? Or if anyone from the list attended. As an > admin of a Project with 50=+ members, I'm trying to determine where > to go from here. I've tons of questions, wish I could have been there > to listen and/or to ask. > > Linda Boorom > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rvsailor@aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 8:30 AM > To: dna-newbie@yahoogroups.com ; autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] DNA Conference Thank You > > As a new autosomal DNA project manager, I attended this years' DNA > Conference in Houston this past weekend. I would like to thank all > those who took > me under their wing and provided so much helpful information. The > speakers were wonderful and the lab tour very impressive but the > best part was > meeting and sharing information with the other attendees! Thank You! > > Connie Bradshaw > John Carson of WNC > Bradshaw & Harris > > > ______________________________ > For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: > http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ______________________________ > For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: > http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ______________________________ > For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: > http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________ For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________ For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message