Hi Shannon, Thank you that was what I was thinking. I should have also added that Samuel and Martha's father married Nancy who was the granddaughter of James. Priscilla was the daughter of Sarah who is also a granddaughter of James. Making this a double double relationship. Since I have yet to find another match on these two segments I am inclined to "map" to Martha. Ann G. In a message dated 27-Sep-13 12:42:27 Pacific Daylight Time, shannon.s.christmas@gmail.com writes: Hi Ann, To definitively identify the common ancestors, you must review the pedigrees of other matches with whom you, your mother, and Person A share this particular segment. In your case, Person A could have inherited the segment from either Samuel or Priscilla via the shared grandparents, or Person A could have inherited the segment from Samuel via the *other* parent he shared with Martha, the parent who was not a biological uncle/aunt of Priscilla. Combing through the pedigrees of everyone sharing this segment will help bring the ancestral source of this segment into focus. I hope this helps. Thank you for bringing this excellent case to us. I look forward to hearing from you. Very Respectfully, Shannon On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 2:59 PM, <AGilchrest@aol.com> wrote: > > Hello, > My mom and I match person A on Chromosome 6, me 9.79 cM, total SNP's 2470, > mom 9.55 cM total SNPs 2370 [Yes mine is larger, end numbers are the same] > & on Chromosome 8, 10.83 cM, total SNP 2056. Start & stop numbers are the > same for Mom & I. > Mom and I descend from Martha. Person A descends from Martha's brother > Samuel and his wife Priscilla. Samuel & Priscilla are 1st cousins. Samuel, > Priscilla and Martha's grandparents are John & Elizabeth. > Should both these segments map to the cousins or the grandparents > children? Am I correct in assuming that Person A could have received the > matching > segment from either Samuel or Priscilla? > Thank you, > Ann G > -- Mr. Shannon S. Christmas Chief Market Advisor | Design Strategist The Christmas Collective <http://thechristmascollective.com/> Strategic Real Estate and Land Use Solutions New York, NY | Washington, DC P: 212.433.0586 | 202.618.1687 F: 1.888.788.5984 shannon.christmas@thechristmascollective.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/shannonchristmas/

Hi Ann, To definitively identify the common ancestors, you must review the pedigrees of other matches with whom you, your mother, and Person A share this particular segment. In your case, Person A could have inherited the segment from either Samuel or Priscilla via the shared grandparents, or Person A could have inherited the segment from Samuel via the *other* parent he shared with Martha, the parent who was not a biological uncle/aunt of Priscilla. Combing through the pedigrees of everyone sharing this segment will help bring the ancestral source of this segment into focus. I hope this helps. Thank you for bringing this excellent case to us. I look forward to hearing from you. Very Respectfully, Shannon On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 2:59 PM, <AGilchrest@aol.com> wrote: > > Hello, > My mom and I match person A on Chromosome 6, me 9.79 cM, total SNP's 2470, > mom 9.55 cM total SNPs 2370 [Yes mine is larger, end numbers are the same] > & on Chromosome 8, 10.83 cM, total SNP 2056. Start & stop numbers are the > same for Mom & I. > Mom and I descend from Martha. Person A descends from Martha's brother > Samuel and his wife Priscilla. Samuel & Priscilla are 1st cousins. Samuel, > Priscilla and Martha's grandparents are John & Elizabeth. > Should both these segments map to the cousins or the grandparents > children? Am I correct in assuming that Person A could have received the > matching > segment from either Samuel or Priscilla? > Thank you, > Ann G > > > ______________________________ > For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: > http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Mr. Shannon S. Christmas Chief Market Advisor | Design Strategist The Christmas Collective <http://thechristmascollective.com/> Strategic Real Estate and Land Use Solutions New York, NY | Washington, DC P: 212.433.0586 | 202.618.1687 F: 1.888.788.5984 shannon.christmas@thechristmascollective.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/shannonchristmas/

Hello, My mom and I match person A on Chromosome 6, me 9.79 cM, total SNP's 2470, mom 9.55 cM total SNPs 2370 [Yes mine is larger, end numbers are the same] & on Chromosome 8, 10.83 cM, total SNP 2056. Start & stop numbers are the same for Mom & I. Mom and I descend from Martha. Person A descends from Martha's brother Samuel and his wife Priscilla. Samuel & Priscilla are 1st cousins. Samuel, Priscilla and Martha's grandparents are John & Elizabeth. Should both these segments map to the cousins or the grandparents children? Am I correct in assuming that Person A could have received the matching segment from either Samuel or Priscilla? Thank you, Ann G

There are lots of interesting posters and abstracts at the forthcoming ASHG 2013 meeting, many of which will possibly have implications for autosomal DNA testing. Five of the posters are from AncestryDNA. I've put links to all the abstracts and posters that I found of interest in this blog post: http://cruwys.blogspot.co.uk/2013/09/the-pick-of-papers-from-ashg-2013.html Debbie

Thank you! I think I am starting to get this! Ann G. In a message dated 25-Sep-13 21:35:00 Pacific Daylight Time, cecemoore@hotmail.com writes: Then, yes, person Y matches your dad on his opposing chromosome 2. That means that if the identified common ancestor is on his paternal side, then this match shares an ancestor with him on his maternal side or vice versa. CeCe Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: AGilchrest@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 9:14 PM To: autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com Reply To: autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] Recombination question CeCe, Yes but not on Chromosome 2. My father and I both match person X on chromosome 22 my father with cM 14.05 total SNP 2486 start position 25707796 stop position 33869897. Mine is cM 11.24 total SNP 1986 start position 26430759 stop position 33869897. Ann G. In a message dated 25-Sep-13 20:43:05 Pacific Daylight Time, cecemoore@hotmail.com writes: Ann,Do you match person X? CeCe Moore www.yourgeneticgenealogist.com > From: AGilchrest@aol.com > Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 23:32:10 -0400 > To: autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] Recombination question > > > Hello > My father has a segment on chromosome 2 that is 17.09 cM total SNP 5500 > start position 47680185 end position 67921093 which matches person X. The > common ancestor couple has been identified. My father descends from one of the > couples sons, person X descends from another son. My father and person X > are third cousins. > My father and I both match person Y on a segment that is within the above > segment. cM 9.17, total SNPs 3500. Start position 49442161 end position > 6179229. > Person X and person Y are not in common. My assumption here is that the > shorter segment is part of the other half of the pair of chromosomes. Can I > make any other hypothesizes? Such as who this segment may belong to? Or > does recombination make this impossible? > Thank you, > Ann G.

CeCe, Yes but not on Chromosome 2. My father and I both match person X on chromosome 22 my father with cM 14.05 total SNP 2486 start position 25707796 stop position 33869897. Mine is cM 11.24 total SNP 1986 start position 26430759 stop position 33869897. Ann G. In a message dated 25-Sep-13 20:43:05 Pacific Daylight Time, cecemoore@hotmail.com writes: Ann,Do you match person X? CeCe Moore www.yourgeneticgenealogist.com > From: AGilchrest@aol.com > Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 23:32:10 -0400 > To: autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] Recombination question > > > Hello > My father has a segment on chromosome 2 that is 17.09 cM total SNP 5500 > start position 47680185 end position 67921093 which matches person X. The > common ancestor couple has been identified. My father descends from one of the > couples sons, person X descends from another son. My father and person X > are third cousins. > My father and I both match person Y on a segment that is within the above > segment. cM 9.17, total SNPs 3500. Start position 49442161 end position > 6179229. > Person X and person Y are not in common. My assumption here is that the > shorter segment is part of the other half of the pair of chromosomes. Can I > make any other hypothesizes? Such as who this segment may belong to? Or > does recombination make this impossible? > Thank you, > Ann G. >

Hello My father has a segment on chromosome 2 that is 17.09 cM total SNP 5500 start position 47680185 end position 67921093 which matches person X. The common ancestor couple has been identified. My father descends from one of the couples sons, person X descends from another son. My father and person X are third cousins. My father and I both match person Y on a segment that is within the above segment. cM 9.17, total SNPs 3500. Start position 49442161 end position 6179229. Person X and person Y are not in common. My assumption here is that the shorter segment is part of the other half of the pair of chromosomes. Can I make any other hypothesizes? Such as who this segment may belong to? Or does recombination make this impossible? Thank you, Ann G.

Then, yes, person Y matches your dad on his opposing chromosome 2. That means that if the identified common ancestor is on his paternal side, then this match shares an ancestor with him on his maternal side or vice versa. CeCe Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: AGilchrest@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 9:14 PM To: autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com Reply To: autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] Recombination question CeCe, Yes but not on Chromosome 2. My father and I both match person X on chromosome 22 my father with cM 14.05 total SNP 2486 start position 25707796 stop position 33869897. Mine is cM 11.24 total SNP 1986 start position 26430759 stop position 33869897. Ann G. In a message dated 25-Sep-13 20:43:05 Pacific Daylight Time, cecemoore@hotmail.com writes: Ann,Do you match person X? CeCe Moore www.yourgeneticgenealogist.com > From: AGilchrest@aol.com > Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 23:32:10 -0400 > To: autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] Recombination question > > > Hello > My father has a segment on chromosome 2 that is 17.09 cM total SNP 5500 > start position 47680185 end position 67921093 which matches person X. The > common ancestor couple has been identified. My father descends from one of the > couples sons, person X descends from another son. My father and person X > are third cousins. > My father and I both match person Y on a segment that is within the above > segment. cM 9.17, total SNPs 3500. Start position 49442161 end position > 6179229. > Person X and person Y are not in common. My assumption here is that the > shorter segment is part of the other half of the pair of chromosomes. Can I > make any other hypothesizes? Such as who this segment may belong to? Or > does recombination make this impossible? > Thank you, > Ann G. > ______________________________ For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jim is right that using one or more spreadsheets is good (although I keep thinking that surely a database would be better--perhaps because I'm more familiar with databases than spreadsheets, but also because most of the data doesn't require calculations but one does want to see different portions of it for different purposes). Countries of Ancestry may be useful for some people, but thus far it has been pretty much a waste of time for me. My ancestry is half Norwegian, so Norwegian finally crawled to the top of the list for me--at 1.1% of my genome covered by the matches. Finland is next at .6%--okay, I know that "Forest Finns" moved to Norway in the 1600s and make up part of my ancestry. Germany comes in next at .4%--I'm 1/4 German. Russia is next at .2%--apparently due to Germans going to Russia. Then there are the .1% countries of Sweden, Spain, Netherlands, Ireland, and Czech Republic. I have no known ancestry from any of those countries beyond that Sweden is not surprising for someone who's half Norwegian. The vast majority of my genome is just blank on Countries of Ancestry. If I set it to 1+ grandparent rather than 4, it gets more diverse and I start seeing that I have matches with one US grandparent, one Canadian, and two Thai. OK, we can rule out a connection via the Thai grandparents, but mostly there are no names, just "your relative's" grandfather was from Mexico or China or what-have-you and half of the ancestry is unknown, so it's mildly interesting but not very revealing. Karla On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 1:18 PM, Jim Bartlett <jim4bartletts@verizon.net>wrote: > Karla, et al > > I have found, so far, the best way to organize is with a spreadsheet. > Almost every thing you get from a Match can go into a spreadsheet. I > started with downloads to save a lot of typing. Most new info I now type > in, but if it's a lot I download the new info and arrange it like my > spreadsheet, and then add or insert those rows. > > You don't have to be into mapping to use a spreadsheet. At first I used my > spreadsheet to track the info I wanted (I've always had columns for > company, Match name, email, large segment(s) over 7cM - Chr, start,end, cM, > SNP, side, MRCA, link to Tree, GEDmatch number, remarks/notes). I quickly > added columns for sent and received. Probably over 90 percent of the emails > can be deleted after this info is put into the spreadsheet. > > The spreadsheet can be sorted (and/or searched) on Match, email, sent, etc > - in addition to sorting on Chr/start which facilitates Triangulation. And, > after you've found some Common Ancestors, you can use Kitty's mapping > utility to show your results. > > If you don't know how to manipulate a spreadsheet, take a course! It will > be worth it. > > Jim - Sent from my iPhone - FaceTime! > > On Sep 22, 2013, at 11:06 AM, Karla Huebner <calypsospots@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > What I'm hearing from everyone is that while some people do have things > > better organized or can put in a little more time, everyone who tries to > > really work with the data is hampered by the same things I have > complained > > of. It feels as though this could easily be a full-time job, yet most of > us > > are employed and/or have other interests (including "paper" genealogy). > > > > Alas. Well, here's hoping that both 23andMe and FTDNA bring forth more > > tools to ease the labor. Just explaining Gedmatch and giving instructions > > takes awhile in itself when I want a 23andMe match to compare with my > > mother's FTDNA data. And it was nice to see that Gedmatch recently put > the > > matches' names and email addresses on the same page, which made life a > lot > > easier for those of us who retain names much more easily than kit > numbers! > > > > ______________________________ > For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: > http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Personally, although I have a genealogy website, that does not always work well for this purpose. I periodically create a new set of pedigree charts for each account I manage, and I post those in the public folder of my Dropbox account. Then I add the relevant URL to my 23andMe profile, and the AncestryDNA profile. Most of the accounts I manage are at FTDNA, and I use the GEDCOM function there, but I also provide the pedigree chart URL as a convenience to the other person. At least in the beginning of trying to find a common ancestral couple, a simpler and streamlined family tree of direct ancestors is easier to view. *Katherine Benbow * * * * *

"Not in common with" means that person X and person Y are not on each other's match list. FTDNA has a total cM threshold that one or both could fall below. That would be one of the possibilities. Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: <AGilchrest@aol.com> To: <autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 8:32 PM Subject: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] Recombination question > > Hello > My father has a segment on chromosome 2 that is 17.09 cM total SNP 5500 > start position 47680185 end position 67921093 which matches person X. The > common ancestor couple has been identified. My father descends from one > of the > couples sons, person X descends from another son. My father and person X > are third cousins. > My father and I both match person Y on a segment that is within the above > segment. cM 9.17, total SNPs 3500. Start position 49442161 end position > 6179229. > Person X and person Y are not in common. My assumption here is that the > shorter segment is part of the other half of the pair of chromosomes. Can > I > make any other hypothesizes? Such as who this segment may belong to? Or > does recombination make this impossible? > Thank you, > Ann G. > > > ______________________________ > For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: > http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Ann,Do you match person X? CeCe Moore www.yourgeneticgenealogist.com > From: AGilchrest@aol.com > Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 23:32:10 -0400 > To: autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] Recombination question > > > Hello > My father has a segment on chromosome 2 that is 17.09 cM total SNP 5500 > start position 47680185 end position 67921093 which matches person X. The > common ancestor couple has been identified. My father descends from one of the > couples sons, person X descends from another son. My father and person X > are third cousins. > My father and I both match person Y on a segment that is within the above > segment. cM 9.17, total SNPs 3500. Start position 49442161 end position > 6179229. > Person X and person Y are not in common. My assumption here is that the > shorter segment is part of the other half of the pair of chromosomes. Can I > make any other hypothesizes? Such as who this segment may belong to? Or > does recombination make this impossible? > Thank you, > Ann G. > > > ______________________________ > For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: > http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I would add that you should be using both CoA AND FI:A - there are many Matches, with segment data, in CoA that are not in FI:A. Jim - Sent from my iPhone - FaceTime! On Sep 22, 2013, at 1:54 AM, "Tim Janzen" <tjanzen@comcast.net> wrote: > Dear Barbara, > In order to get the most out of 23andMe you have to send sharing requests to > people. I always invite people to share genomes at the basic level. Like > others, I find it really hard to keep up with the correspondence since I am > working full time (and occasionally do other things besides genetic > genealogy when I am not working). I any case, I would urge you to contact > all of your matches at 23andMe if you can. Record the matching segment data > for those who accept sharing with you. Ask your contacts to share a > pedigree chart with you in some form if they don't have one linked to their > account. Make sure you get very familiar with the use of Family > Inheritance: Advanced. The primary advantage of 23andMe now is the fact > that a huge number of people are being tested there, particularly during the > past 9 months or so. The number of people who have tested at 23andMe now is > somewhere in the range of 400,000. Walter Freeman's comments more or less > mirror my thoughts as well. > Sincerely, > Tim Janzen

Karla, et al I have found, so far, the best way to organize is with a spreadsheet. Almost every thing you get from a Match can go into a spreadsheet. I started with downloads to save a lot of typing. Most new info I now type in, but if it's a lot I download the new info and arrange it like my spreadsheet, and then add or insert those rows. You don't have to be into mapping to use a spreadsheet. At first I used my spreadsheet to track the info I wanted (I've always had columns for company, Match name, email, large segment(s) over 7cM - Chr, start,end, cM, SNP, side, MRCA, link to Tree, GEDmatch number, remarks/notes). I quickly added columns for sent and received. Probably over 90 percent of the emails can be deleted after this info is put into the spreadsheet. The spreadsheet can be sorted (and/or searched) on Match, email, sent, etc - in addition to sorting on Chr/start which facilitates Triangulation. And, after you've found some Common Ancestors, you can use Kitty's mapping utility to show your results. If you don't know how to manipulate a spreadsheet, take a course! It will be worth it. Jim - Sent from my iPhone - FaceTime! On Sep 22, 2013, at 11:06 AM, Karla Huebner <calypsospots@gmail.com> wrote: > What I'm hearing from everyone is that while some people do have things > better organized or can put in a little more time, everyone who tries to > really work with the data is hampered by the same things I have complained > of. It feels as though this could easily be a full-time job, yet most of us > are employed and/or have other interests (including "paper" genealogy). > > Alas. Well, here's hoping that both 23andMe and FTDNA bring forth more > tools to ease the labor. Just explaining Gedmatch and giving instructions > takes awhile in itself when I want a 23andMe match to compare with my > mother's FTDNA data. And it was nice to see that Gedmatch recently put the > matches' names and email addresses on the same page, which made life a lot > easier for those of us who retain names much more easily than kit numbers!

I now have data from a fourth Trio of parents/chid data and in this case the data is in both gedmatch.com and FTDNA. In this case 100% of the "Distant Relative" matched either the mother or the father. For the category of Speculative Relative I have now been able to analyze 5 cases of child matches where neither parent matched and I could find all four sets of data in gedmatch.com. Only one of those cases was real, meaning the segment of 7.87 cM in the child did not match in either parent. The other 4 cases were all "False Negatives" on the part of FTDNA where they should have found a match but did not. In this set of data FTDNA found 216 "Speculative Relatives" and 41, or about 20% did not match one of the parents. From the small sample above that would mean 20% of the 20%, or 4%, are true Identical By State(IBS), or just random matches and that 96% are solid Identical By Descent, IBD, matches. I note that most of the FTDNA non-matches, 29 of them, happened in the range of 8.50 cM and less. There are 60 matches in that range so the mismatch ratio there is about 50%. The one true mismatch that I found was at 7.87 cM by FTDNA measurement I looked at that one mismatch in some detail on gedmatch.com (I hope this table formats OK when you view it) Person Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs Child 10 111192330 116724473 7.3 1988 Father 10 111293348 114533483 3.5 1076 Mother 10 112273709 115111806 3.8 1027 One difference is that gedmatch.com got 7.3 cM and FTDNA got 7.9 cM another is 1988 SNPs per gedmatch and 1500 per FTDNA. That may be due to gedmatch using 23andMe SNPs and FTDNA using their fewer SNP data. Note that on gedmatch.com neither the parental nor the maternal phase of the child had any match to this genotype. Thus it looks to me that if you have a FTDNA match to a person at any level and that segment also matches a parent, aunt, uncle, grandparent or cousin then you can call that segment Identical By Descent(IBD) and look for the common ancestor. This data suggests that FTDNA matching algorithm for Speculative Relatives gives 96% IBD, (good matches) and 4% IBS random matches. This is in contrast to the finding that gedmatch.com at 8 cM will find some 20 to 50% of the matches are just random IBS matches. Thus the algorithm that FTDNA uses to establish a match does eliminate more IBS matches than the straight cM and SNP count used by gedmatch.com See this for details on FTDNA matching http://www.familytreedna.com/faq/answers.aspx?id=17#608 __________________

In the 1990s and 2000s, I kept dipping my toe into e-genealogy and then pulling it back out because all the programs I tried seemed so limited. But the availability of 23andMe genome sequencing convinced me to dip my toe back in last month, and FTM 2014 is out (I'm using it), and I'm impressed. I was able to quickly and easily import into it the half-dozen GEDs which'd been produced by various relatives and me over the past ten years by various programs (those toe-dips), and FTM neatly and painlessly stitched them all together. I can think of improvements, but all in all, it's light-years ahead of versions from the 2000s. I can't compare it with other programs for the PC (whether Mac or Win), since I haven't tried them (recently). I'm not sure I'd call myself a FTM fanboy, but I'm pleasantly surprised. No crashes yet, at any rate. (Running it under Win8Pro x64.) Best, Eric Shanghai OpenPGP: 0x1AF7E6F2 ● Skype: oneota ● XMPP/OTR: berekum@jabber.ccc.de ● Silent Circle: +1 312 614-0159 > -----Original Message----- > From: autosomal-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:autosomal-dna- > bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Paul > Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 23.20 > To: autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] Re importing gedcoms > > Although the collection on Ancestry.com is indisputably the best, its > companion software, FTM, is also one of the most unintuitive and bug- > ridden genealogy software available. They are releasing the new 2014 > version for pre-order...only in the US at this time. Hopefully, it will fix some > of the problems. The FTM version for the Mac will lag behind in time and > features, as had always been the case. > > I have about a half dozen genealogy programs on my computer. Each has a > feature that I like. The only feature that I like for FTM is that it syncs with > Ancestry.com. > > There is no happy solution to this conundrum.

Karin, Thanks so much for answering one of my many ignorant questions today. You don't know until you know. I am reading everything I can get my hands on since Cece's webinar two or three days ago. Janis Walker Gilmore Pawleys Island, SC On Sep 24, 2013, at 9:06 PM, Karin Corbeil <karincorbeil@gmail.com> wrote: > The columns in the chromosome browser csv file that is downloaded at > DNAGedcom are: > > Column A - blank > Column B - match's name > Column C - chromosome # > Column D - Start Location > Column E - End Location > Column F - cMs > Column G - SNPs > Column H - An identification # used by FTDNA (irrelevant for any of our > purposes) > > Karin Corbeil > > On 9/24/2013 8:08 PM, autosomal-dna-request@rootsweb.com wrote: >> Message: 3 >> Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 15:11:27 -0400 >> From: Janis L Gilmore<janis.gilmore@gmail.com> >> Subject: Re: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] download through DNAGedCom.com >> To:autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID:<03587E04-1E29-4415-A8CD-BF1FE768D9A9@gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> Well,it was the FamilyFinder I was trying to get from FamilyTreeDNA. I subsequently, and rather quickly, obtained it from another of my sponsored kits. So I am working on that one. Wish I could find more screen shots, though. I'm not certain what the last column represents: > > > > ______________________________ > For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: > http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The columns in the chromosome browser csv file that is downloaded at DNAGedcom are: Column A - blank Column B - match's name Column C - chromosome # Column D - Start Location Column E - End Location Column F - cMs Column G - SNPs Column H - An identification # used by FTDNA (irrelevant for any of our purposes) Karin Corbeil On 9/24/2013 8:08 PM, autosomal-dna-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 15:11:27 -0400 > From: Janis L Gilmore<janis.gilmore@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] download through DNAGedCom.com > To:autosomal-dna@rootsweb.com > Message-ID:<03587E04-1E29-4415-A8CD-BF1FE768D9A9@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Well,it was the FamilyFinder I was trying to get from FamilyTreeDNA. I subsequently, and rather quickly, obtained it from another of my sponsored kits. So I am working on that one. Wish I could find more screen shots, though. I'm not certain what the last column represents:

Yes, that would be the hypothesis. Most likely as you find more matches you will confirm that further. And you are one step ahead because you have it narrowed to which individual in that ancestral couple you share (since the wives are different). Denise -----Original Message----- From: autosomal-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:autosomal-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Janis L Gilmore Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 1:25 PM To: Autossomal DNA List Subject: [AUTOSOMAL-DNA] identifying segments Ok, so I have a match on chromosome 22 between my father and a known descendant of a common ancestor on chromosome 22 from position 15492342 to 20645312 for a total of 10 cM. Their relationship is distant, but identified. They share a common gr gr grandfather, although through different wives. They also have a common surname and both test into the same group of the DNA surname study. So do I understand that this position cited above can be determined to have come from that common gr gr grandfather and can be assigned to him at this point? Janis Walker Gilmore (just beginning the learning curve, but obsessed with it) ______________________________ For answers to Frequently Asked Questions about mailing lists, please see: http://dgmweb.net/MailingListFAQs.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUTOSOMAL-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

> Another Ancestry question. I understand an Ancestry tree will sync with > Family Tree Maker. Is this a two way sync? Suppose one has a tree on > Ancestry and buys a new copy of FTM that is blank. With sync turned on will > the Ancestry tree transfer to FTM OR will the blank FTM wipe out the tree on > Ancestry? If you start with an Ancestry.com tree (as I did) and buy a copy of FTM 2014 (as I did), you can then give FTM your Ancestry.com credentials, and FTM will download the Ancestry.com tree into FTM and establish a "synch link" between the two. An FTM license says it's good for installation on two PCs. But an Ancestry.com tree can be "linked" with only one of those PC's FTM instance. The synch between the two (the Ancestry.com tree and the .ftm file on my PC) appears to be two-way; i.e. each time it synchs, it uploads to Ancestry.com any changes I've made on my PC, and it downloads to my PC any changes made (by invited editors) to the online tree. It synchs automatically when I launch or quite FTM, and I can click on the "synch now" button in FTM's upper-right-hand corner if I want. Once I got my Ancestry.com tree into FTM, I found I could use FTM to import a GEDCOM file; FTM would compare the GEDCOM with my existing .ftm file and find the matches, then offer to me to "merge" the imported .ged into my .ftm, letting me make choices about the data for each overlapping person (same as when adopting into your tree via FTM from data from Ancestry.com "hints"). Does anyone ever use this method to share information with newly-discovered relatives who have their own tree? "Hey, can you export that branch to a GEDCOM and e-mail it to me so I can 'merge' it into my .ftm?" (Sorry if this is an old question--I'm a newcomer to the list.) Best, Eric